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Sharks go down in opener


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 7 Aug 2015 at 19:45
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Despite a strong second half fightback that saw them outscore their hosts by two tries to zero, the Sharks have conceded a 33-24 defeat to the Pumas in Nelspruit.

It was in the first half that the damage was done, with a shell-shocked visiting side conceding three tries and a 7-27 scoreline from which they simply could not recover. A relatively slow start by both sides saw no score in the opening ten minutes, but as the Pumas grew in confidence and started to dominate the collisions, it wouldn’t be long before the old Sharks demon of poor midfield defence allowed the hosts in for a score.

Captain Stefan Watermeyer netted that first try in the 11th minute, with the unerring goal-kicking boot of JC Roos extending the lead out to 13-0 by the 24th minute via a conversion and two penalties. A rare moment of Sharks brilliance (coming from an equally rare line-out take on own ball) saw Khaya Majola put Lionel Cronje in for a try a minute later, with Joe Pietersen adding his first Sharks points via the conversion.

At 6-13 down, there was hope, but that hope was to be short-lived, as Marnus Schoeman struck back with a try for the Pumas not long afterwards. A very questionable decision to award the Pumas a penalty towards the end of the half – with Rosco Speckman appearing to trip himself up in the air without any Sharks intervention – allowed the hosts a line-out deep in Sharks territory and a superb rolling maul, to which the Sharks simply had no answer, saw Schoeman complete his brace as half time loomed.

Gary Gold made changes at half time and these seemed to add a bit of impetus; a good period of possession in the opening stages of the second period saw Heimar Williams score off a simple dummy and inside break, with Pietersen again adding the extras. When Daniel du Preez (on at flank to replace his brother Jean-Luc) scored a power try on the hour mark, the Sharks were well back in the game, trailing 30-21. Pietersen added a penalty and suddenly the gap was just six, with the Sharks in range of a losing bonus point at the very least.

Alas, it was not to be as some silly play in their own half in the closing minutes handed Roos the opportunity to put the match beyond doubt. His fourth successful penalty of the night handed the hosts a deserved 9-point victory.

Pumas (33) – Tries: Marnus Schoeman (2), Stefan Watermeyer; Conversions: JC Roos (3); Penalties: Roos (4).

Sharks (24) – Tries: Lionel Cronje, Heimar Williams, Daniel du Preez; Conversions: Joe Pietersen (3): Penalty: Pietersen.



68 Comments

  • You forgot the “brave” in the headline :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.08.15 19:47:28 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Michael Claasens and Dan Du Preez made a big difference.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.08.15 19:47:43 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • Evening gents. Long time follower first time commentating. Let’s face the harsh truth: no more pride in the jersey since plum left. Add to this the fact they our captains can’t play the ref like their NZ counterparts. Things go slighlty wrong and the heads drop. We were beaten by a better team, not better players.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.08.15 19:50:28 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Not all his fault, but this Etienne Oosthuizen guy needs to be shown the door.

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.08.15 19:51:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 4) : he had a very poor game.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.08.15 19:57:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Just continuing where he left off in Super Rugby.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.08.15 19:58:35 by Ben Reply
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  • Tonight I don’t feel like being positive. To me there definitely did not seem to be any growth in comparison to SR we are still week on inside channel defence. On attack we hardly inspire. I am starting to lose my faith in Gold. I truly hope I am wrong and we were just beaten on the day by a better team.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.08.15 19:59:41 by YamYam Reply
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  • This is all the coaching. These are all very good players, bar Hadebe. Yes, the coach can’t control dropped balls but it was so much more than that. The basics were nowhere and the positioning on defence was terrible. That’s pure coaching. Gold made excuses during super rugby. He can’t make any excuses now. I didn’t think he was the right guy when they announced his signing and I’ve been proved right. Time for him to leave!

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.08.15 20:00:34 by woody Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : @Ben (Comment 6) : And Gary Gold was saying he’s excited to have a 4 lock with the mobility of a back rower. What!? :roll:

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.08.15 20:00:46 by Ben Reply
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  • More of the same. No hart. No passion. Highly paid incompetence. rob I generally think your comments are great and valid. Etienne O a Springbok according to you is a load of shit! Jack’s boy as always been overrated. The new Ozzy lock worse than Etienne. I hope we can do better but not confident. Long Season ?

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.08.15 20:10:15 by Observer Reply

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  • With 8 debutants in the starting 22, losing both ‘experienced’ props within 20 minutes and losing all the boks, i actually thought we did pretty well. Highly disorganised in the first half but played better in the second half. Its not all doom and gloom. We still are not playing the ball infront of us. And some really stupid decisions. We had a 4 on 2 at that last scrum but passed it to the flyhalf who kicked it into touch with 3 minutes to go) and esterhuizen is not a wing. His kick 2 minutes from time in the first half should be proof that he shouldnt be there fullstop. Too slow no kicking game.

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.08.15 20:25:33 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 11) : Exactly. One does not play a flank at wing. Besides, how many times did our wings get the ball in space? A double hand amputee could tell you by counting their fingers.

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.08.15 20:48:04 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 6) : Ja he does seem like a non event great things expected but never lives up to expectations. At some point you have to say let’s look at other options. Failed at flanker and looks like he dies cut it at lock either. Or any position that requires you to hold on to a leather ball much less do something interesting with it. That’s just me I suppose.

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.08.15 20:58:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I was only able to watch the second half, maybe that is why I don’t feel too negative after the game! We have to realise, we played against a team that has been playing together a while and know one another very well. We had a few new combinations, which will take a while to gel. I actually figured we probably played better the second half because the players were getting used to the combinations a bit more. Guess we will have to wait and see, but if our props can be ready after the injuries before next weekend and we can sort out our line-outs, I think we can play some good rugby!

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.08.15 20:59:58 by HeinF Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 11) : Ja Andre doesn’t have the acceleration. But none of the backs had much opportunity tonight.

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.08.15 20:59:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Observer (Comment 10) : A little harsh. As I recall, Rob posted something to the effect of….he hopes Oosthuizen takes this opportunity to showcase his abilities since other than Etzebeth there is nobody else in SA who excels in that position.

    I don’t think he ever said EO should be a Bok.

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.08.15 21:04:31 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 15) : Andre showed some excellent enterprise. He was always looking for work and popping up all over the field. His defence on the wing worries me a little, and as you say he does not have the acceleration nor top end speed…but I do like his attitude.

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.08.15 21:07:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : Ja you can see this kid enjoyed the midfield much more. I hope we can sort him in terms of running angles and getting good hands. He could be devastating.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.08.15 21:10:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Ai,Ai,Ai gaan ek nou weer soos in die Super Rugby skaam kry vir die span wat ek al maklik 25 jaar ondersteun. Ek sien daar is manne wat afrigter wil weg jaag – wel ek dink ons moet bo begin by Mnr. John Smit – hulle se mos ‘n vis vrot van die kop af. Van hy oorgeneem en die beste afrigter weggejaag het het die Sharks verander en verseker nie vir die beste nie – ek weet nie hoe die Sharks ooit weer die span sal word wat dit was nie – ek is regtig nie gelukkig nie. Smit kan maar weet al moet ek ‘n FAKS (e-mails ens word nie beantwoord) stuur maar ek gaan vir hom se dit is sy skuld – hy moet weet ons is ontevrede. Ons wil nie stories hoor ons soek aksie ons soek WEN!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.08.15 21:18:55 by Leon Schrenk Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 18) : Sometimes difficult to choose between two players. I like Heimar as well, wasn’t that visible tonight, but he did have a few good moments, especially that try, sold a good dummy

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.08.15 21:21:03 by HeinF Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 3) : Welcome…

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.08.15 21:47:09 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I didn’t watch the whole game this evening…but from what I did see:
    – our lineouts were shocking!
    – Thomas’ injury didn’t look great!
    – and who was the poephol who decided it was a great idea to kick out a ball after our scrum ball with 3 minutes left and needing to score a try to win! What’s up with that?!

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.08.15 21:47:33 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @HeinF (Comment 20) : Ja but it’s difficult to gauge the backline tonight they’re didn’t exactly get great opportunity so I’ll give them a break. I must say our line was very flat and shallow which limits the speedster from building some acceleration. So I would give Heimar another go but Andre clearly wants to be midfield so maybe swooping them would have been an idea. Although I must say Andre did some good defensive work tonight and he was very present. To be honest I don’t know what to make of our backline. Lionel was a pest though wasn’t he?

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.08.15 21:48:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Well I’m off. I am sad. Not because we lost but because we had all the ingredients and because we let ourselves down. We weren’t even outclassed we just did not pitch up with a mind to win, which is a lost opportunity. Are we in the right head space yet? Are we still just a group of players and not a team yet? When will we be a team again?

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.08.15 22:01:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 16) : Thanks dB. Yes, that’s more like what I said. Suffice to say none of the players who needed to put their hands up – Etienne, Monde, Wandi – had a good game.

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.08.15 22:17:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Observer has always had a very personal issues with Etienne though. Not sure what they are, but it’s clear from his comments that he will never have a kind word for ‘Jake’s boy’. Seems Dave is now in the same boat. I actually thought Dave played pretty well and made a difference.

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.08.15 22:19:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • Not a great performance, but not all that terrible. Front row held up well, locks not good, both Eatienne and Wentzel to go. Bring in fresh players there. majola proved me wrong and played week while it is clear JL is off the pace, he needs more game time at u21 level.

    A problem I have, is this Game Plan!!! Players are losing the ability to think. Stop always box kicking, for the sake of box kicking. If you are in your 22 and an opportunity arises to run the ball, run the blady thing. Ungerer seemed lost in the sense that he was almost being controlled by a plan, as opposed to playig the situation. Faf plays what he can see on the field, he would look just as poor if a coach forced him into a game plan. Much like Jantjies, he was terrible for the Stormersmbut great for the Lions, why – because the Stormers forced him into a game plan, conkusing the player, he wants to run, his instinct is to run, but he is made to kick.

    The Sharks have the players to expand their rugby. Youngsters like, Du TOit, H Andrews, Du Preez twins, A Schramm, I Radebe and M Louw – these are young guys who can and will change the Sharks landscape in the next year or so, but they must have the freedom to play what they see. This Sharks side is now playing a style like the Bulls played 2 years ago, it is boring and seemingly ineffective

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.08.15 22:33:40 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : I’m a bit worried at the moment. Sharks structures are in shambles and JS is seemingly unable to fix it. None of his appointments seems able to do anything to stop the rot hell some even seems to make it worse!!!!!

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.08.15 22:33:50 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 23) : Lionel has got a lot of talent! First time I saw him was during a stormers vs cobra t20, guy took an excellent full speed diving catch on the boundary. Tonight took another great catch from one of the kicks. He must work on a few things, like getting more distance with his kicks, but the guy has the talent to keep the opposition guessing!

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.08.15 22:58:24 by HeinF Reply

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  • Losing to Griquas and Pumas is becoming the norm for the Sharks.

    But ja, what do we expect with Gold as coach?

    With him at the helm don’t expect:

    1. The Sharks to win
    2. To look like they have a plan

    And you won’t ever be disappointed.

    Being saying this since Super Rugby and I see no reason to cease:

    GOLD OUT

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.08.15 23:24:06 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • Didn’t watch the whole game, so my opinion is somewhat superflous.

    Will say this though – as an impassioned observer, there is waaaaay too much emphasis on player recruitment and not enough on coaching in Durbs. Play the cards you’re dealt and play then we’ll. That’s the secret to sustainable success.

    Sharks will be back. Hopefully.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.08.15 23:38:42 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 31) : that’s kak. Coaching development? We don’t want the Sharks to “develop” coaches just as we don’t want coaches who need to be “developed”. The real issue is that we have a bunch of average to useless journeymen as coaches.

    At this level we demand the best.

    The fault with this lies at the feet of Smit. All of them have been appointed on his watch.

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.08.15 23:42:21 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • A loss was always a distinct possibility in Nelspruit with such a green team. We’ve been saying it all week. Yet suddenly so many are surprised and deeply hurt by a loss that could easily have become a pakslae? Dish out some credit along with the criticism.

    Marius Schoeman’s try was a perfect example of defenders not yet trusting the guy’s on their inside and outside. At least give it a game or two boys. This is not the SR team, there are a number of new faces around. Let’s be a little patient before breaking out the torches and pitchforks. We had a crap SR campaign but we have to start rebuilding somewhere. It doesn’t all get magically fixed in the weeks between SR and Currie Cup.

    Not trying to defend Gold by the way but let’s just put a little faith in our players at the start of the season. Still plenty of time to criticise going forward.

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.08.15 23:55:09 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 33) : The disastrous Super rugby effort has made patience very thin. Don’t expect too many to wait before criticising…

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.08.15 00:09:44 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • A loss to the Pumas is never acceptable no matter the circumstances, sorry.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.08.15 00:10:28 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 34) : By all means, go hog wild on the criticism, I can’t stop you or anyone else. I guess it can be therapeutic to the fans but won’t magically make the team play better rugby. So let’s at least try and be a little objective and constructive too, for our own peace of mind.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.08.15 00:29:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • The bigger the clamour from fans the sooner Gold will be shown the door.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.08.15 00:33:44 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 33) : Its no shame in losing a fired up Pumas team in Nelspruit. They are not easy beats. As you say, the Sharks haven’t had much game time together, and the Pumas have been playing Vodacom Cup together.

    I figured that if they got enough ball the Sharks could be in trouble. They have a very good backline, with Watermeyer and Tromp in the midfield.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.08.15 00:48:52 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • No shame for the Cheetahs maybe. It’s humiliating for a much bigger team who are used to winning, like the Sharks.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.08.15 01:30:50 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 33) : Hahahahahahahaaaa! Hohohohahahaaaaaahahahaha! I’m sorry, but you’re asking for patience and objectivity on *Sharksworld*!….!? You see where you went wrong there?

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.08.15 07:45:56 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 38) : And Faf obviously had a point to prove to another coach which he made loud and clear but at the Sharks expense. Still, I’m happy that he played so well. The Sharks can learn from that and hopefully we’ll see Faf in a Bok jersey one day.

    @Culling Song (Comment 40) : I’m guessing my rants have about the same effect as the Cecil-white-knighters on social media have on conservation – didly squat. :)

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.08.15 08:08:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Hey Rob, I’m surprised by the pic you still have up on your log-in page… there’s a young man right in the centre of the pic I wouldn’t have thought you’d want associated with the Sharks… Least of all Sharksworld? ;-)

    One could argue we definitely missed his presence in the Nelspruit game though.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.08.15 08:24:25 by CS Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 39) : Sharks benefitted from an era where they had an impressive squad. Many that will be retiring or moving to secure their retirement.

    Sharks squandered that depth, in that they never could put a championship win together despite an impressive squad. The horse has now bolted, and the Sharks have to rebuild. Their junior teams have been relatively weak, so their only recourse is buy.

    They will take time to settle and grow as a team. I understand the need to win, but after the debacle of Super 15, it won’t happen overnight. And it remains to be seen if the returning boks will turn this ship around. The Pumas monstered the Sharks pack, which is a major concern. With only Beast and Marcel coming back, I don’t see that changing soon. When you get dominated in the set pieces, you are always going to struggle.
    They will need to settle on a backline combination, and fast. With Joe and Willie, the FB is well covered. Lambie will sort out the 10 channel, and I think Heimar and Jordaan (if he can remain fit) will be a good combo. Mvovo and Sithole to wing it.

    It’s in the tight five where the Sharks are being exposed!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.08.15 08:53:52 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • Whats the status on Hewitt? We are still being exposed with a weak no4 lock and it seems we only have one jumping option in the lineout.

    One must look at yesterdays result in the context of the lack of experience on the field. 8 first timers. A couple of players playing in new positions for the first time.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.08.15 08:59:54 by byron Reply

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  • So, a little perspective the morning after…1) the Pumas looked good because the referee was quite partial to their go-forward (at least one of their tries was from a forward pass and was accepted as legit by the TMO; obstruction was commonplace and literally everything the Sharks did was subjected to scrutiny – TMO call for ‘foul play’ and ‘early tackle’). They are not going to have compliant referees like that every game. 2) Jaco van Heerden will not referee every Sharks game so we may win some ;) 3) Being manhandled a little as the Sharks were at the breakdown comes down I believe to attitude and not size or technique and when the Sharks got their stuff more together in the second half they seemed 60% confident – confident enough to put up a fight but not confident enough to win it. So, if they find that team dynamic, that grunt, that dog-f#ck that the Pumas have, then they can win more than they lose. 4) 3 tries a-piece with the difference a matter of penalties. Realistically, another referee may have interpreted the penalties, their timing and position on the field, differently. You could see van Heerden and Crouse looking for reasons to penalise the Sharks and look for foul play and check off-side lines et cetera. Different ref, different atmosphere with other games. Other games, the Sharks will get the benefit of the doubt going forward. 5) The starting 15 should look a little different when the Sharks run out next. Perhaps Ettas and Hadebe and Ungerer should not start. And maybe the big guy Esterhuizen should be centre with Heimar. 6) Claassens looked the business, very calm like. 7) Persepective doesn’t change the fact that we should have backed ourselves and maybe won. Sometimes it seems like the players have doubts about themselves as much as we do sometimes.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.08.15 09:26:00 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 45) : Oh boy!! It is going to be a long season, if that is your focus! In any given match, you are going to get calls against you, or perceived as such. Nature of the complex rules that govern rugby.

    Fact is the Pumas monstered the Sharks in the setpieces, got quick ball, and don’t disregard Marnus Schoeman’s influence in this regard. As a result they did get significant momentum, and they played wide with pace. Sharks battled to curb that.

    Sharks are a work in progress, were disrupted by injuries, so it’s all relative. A different ref, would not have gotten the Sharks a win. Seriously doubt that. Might have gotten worse in fact!

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.08.15 09:35:15 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 46) : agree, can’t blame Jaco. One of his better performances.

    I can’t get past the crap decision to penalise the Sharks after Speckman tripped himself, though, I blame the TMO for not sticking to his guns, though and telling the ref that there should not have been a penalty.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.08.15 10:12:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : Didn’t see that incident. I understand the frustration after the S15, but geez, some guys are really frothing at the mouth. It’s a first game for the bigger unions, whilst the likes of Griquas, and Pumas, have quite a bit of continuity. Secondly, I think it will be foolish to underrate this Pumas side.

    Yes, they don’t have big name players, but they are a cohesive unit, that play with a lot of passion. They have a powerful scrum, with good looses. Getting Marnus Schoeman is, was a master stroke.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.08.15 10:41:15 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • All of this boils down to coaching. This is where Smit and Gary are still confused. You can see that the guys put in a lot of effort in speeding their game up. Unfortunately, just speeding up the game up and still being one dimensional and not having a rucking philosophy will result in more pain for Sharks supporters. Watching Faf last night was like watching a 1st team scrumhalf playing against an /14scrumhalf. Urgner is not well coached. Lionel was caught with ball in hand way too often last night. This is again a coaching issue. He was just told to be flat without fully understanding why he must play flat. The will is there but the coaching on the technical aspects of rugby leave much to be desired. The WP u/18 side has a better rucking philosophy that our senior sides that have had Gary as the head coach. Technical awareness and clear role definition is a must for any game plan to work. Wake up and smell the coffee. You need Mitchell. Go get him.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.08.15 11:26:55 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 33) : I’ve got faith in the players, which is why I feel we completely under performed.

    We need a coach able to mold a winning team out of this talented group at his disposal.

    Gold continuously fiddles with his selections (during SR, and now first game in the CC)…that to me suggests that he doesn’t have confidence in the talent at his disposal….that worries me.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.08.15 11:27:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : That lead directly to the truck and trailor maul try which should have been disallowed. Not the best of refereeing performances but to be fair it wasnt the reason for the loss. We just battled to get going and dare i say we played too safe

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.08.15 12:11:59 by byron Reply

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  • Reason for the loss … 3 minutes from time we have a scrum 95 meters out. We kick for territory with a 4 on 2 overlap. We are too over coached

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.08.15 12:13:57 by byron Reply

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  • Obviously we didn’t lose because of the ref, we lost because we didn’t play well enough.

    That said, I do think the ref had a shocker.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.08.15 12:39:11 by jonnow Reply

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  • This place is starting to sound like Bullsworld. The ref this, the ref that. :roll: .

    The Sharks were beaten by a better team.

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.08.15 13:08:02 by Ben Reply
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  • Australia wins the Rugby Championship by beating the All Blacks 27 – 19 in Sydney.

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.08.15 14:02:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 50) : You may be right regarding Gold, to be honest I have no definite opinion on him yet. The SR campaign was a cock-up for a diverse set of reasons so I’m not sure how much blame to lay at his door. We’ve gone down to minnow teams at the start of the competition before under different coaches (at Kings Park too) and went on to do okay. I’m still cautiously optimistic for now.

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.08.15 14:17:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 49) : @Ben (Comment 54) : Agreed fully as well the importance of a proper 9 was shown,SU is not the answer my pet tortoise is quicker & MC only marginaly quicker,how FAF is not a Bok is beyond me,the closest SA have to AS & TJP

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.08.15 14:22:54 by benji Reply
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  • Look I think it’s too early to panic here.There were some very good signs and some glaring inefficiencies ,hopefully we can correct those.
    Must say for me Joe P,and Michael C are excellent signings.Hadebe is shocking..
    Wentzel worries me he is starting to look old and he is too conservative to be the leader.
    The other thing that pissed me off big time is we are trailing by two scores 4minutes to go,uncontested scrums,and the coach replaces the fullback.The same steady full back that was a rock on the field.
    If Joe had been on the field we never would have kicked that ball out.Marais looked as nervous as a teenage girl going to her first school dance.
    Why this incessant desire to always clean out the bench.

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.08.15 14:29:43 by The hound Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 56) : When Smal joined Province it took a couple of weeks to see the change. They even defeated us with a second string side. Gold had 14 weeks during the SR campaign and another 6 weeks to prepare for the CC. Please, what more do you want to see??? The Pumas showed us what a drilled side looks like. Their tries were from the training pitch. A combination of a varied attacking game, manipulation and good option taking. No rocket science. No individual brilliance from the Pumas. In fact, man for man, our players are better in terms individual ability. Sharks coaching sucks across the board.

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.08.15 14:30:25 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Hello all. I have an extra ticket to the boks game today and am struggling to give it away. There’s 3 in my party and if anyone would like to be the 4th you can have the ticket. I’ll be at Rovers for a pregame drink so you can get it from me there. Anyone keen?

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.08.15 14:36:24 by Hulk Reply

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  • Anyone watching the Cheetahs game? Can’t find a stream.

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.08.15 14:42:01 by Ben Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 58) : What did you think of Lionel Cronje?

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.08.15 15:02:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 61) : It’s (sadly) a very one-sided affair so far. Hougaard’s going pretty well at scrumhalf but seems to be playing the type of game that’s far more suited to his strengths.

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.08.15 15:04:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 61) : Lions also seem to be running over the Kings.

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.08.15 15:06:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 64) : I’m watching the Lions game.

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.08.15 15:10:34 by Ben Reply
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  • Everytime i see PSDT i cringe… feel like a taxi pushing in front of me from the left hand side in rush hour traffic

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.08.15 18:16:06 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Eish i see problems for the Sharks…and i did fear this would be the case after recent showings in the junior levels and Vodacom cups, even last year CC. Without the established Boks the Sharks have nothing coming through. Pumas dominated up front and in the backline. They didnt do anything amazing just the basics and the Sharks werent able to handle it. From 1-15 and reserves we were poor. We look very unfit and lethergic. If serious steps are not taken during this CC im very concerned about Super rugby next year. Possibly only players to have semi decent games were DuPreez x 2 and Michael Claasens.

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.08.15 09:38:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I reckon I will watch the Sharks game on Saturday out of emotional memory (naively remembering better days) but the Springboks at 21h40 are out of luck

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.08.15 10:58:53 by SeanJeff Reply
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