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Boks vs Pumas, a capitulation


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 10 Aug 2015 at 09:17
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Hi Bok fans, if there are any of you left out there.

I’m just going to put down some of my thoughts from my first ever live Bok game.

The good:

· Lambie’s value to the Bok cause must now be obvious, even to Heyneke Meyer, with some media reports even going as far as to suggest that Handre Pollard has perhaps even played himself out of the RWC Squad;
· Bok rugby is as low as it can get under Meyer’s tenure as Bok coach (touching wood, feet off the ground and fingers crossed that I’m right);
· Jesse Kriel and Damien De Allende have to be our centre combination as they provided potency on attack.

The bad:

· Jean de Villiers lacked the same force on attack prior to his injury;
· The Boks lacked a ‘Plan B’ when our ‘Plan A’ did not work;
· Our defensive structure was non-existent, the first try that was let through was too simple, and the try on Kriel’s wing could have been scored by anybody;
· Vincent Koch was given a lesson in scrumming, whether or not this was due to his ribs or not I guess we’ll never know;
· On that note, Jesse Kriel looked clueless and exposed on the wing, a shadow of the player from the past three games.

My observations:

· The crowd was less than expected, and the match build up was ruined by an announcement system which was impossible to interpret. I know there were a bunch of old guys who I guessed were former Pumas players, but nobody in the stadium could have been sure about that.
· The Argentinians were superb on the ground, seeming to turn the Boks over at will. It was incredibly frustrating to watch the Boks build up, get into a position to score a try, only for the ball to be turned over, yet again. Even with Marcell and Brussouw on the field we didn’t seem able to compete.
· Handre Pollard was clueless on attack, he shovelled the ball on, not offering anything in the way of holding up the defence or keeping them guessing. After his umpteenth mistake, when he kicked the ball directly into touch again, the frustrated crowd had had enough and the chant of ‘Lambie! Lambie’ resonated around the stadium. Lambie made an immediate impression, taking the ball flatter, his crisp passing and game management providing the Boks with some much needed direction. They just looked like a totally different team with him there.
· Chatting to the crowd around me, and listening to comments made by them, it was apparent that there is a huge amount of dissatisfaction with Meyer’s game plan and the management of the team.

Please feel free to share your thoughts on the game. I recorded it, but don’t think I’ll be watching the game again.



65 Comments

  • I have to disagree with your first point. Not that Lambie has value, but that Meyer will realize it.

    I am willing to put all my money on the line, that because of the injuries Lambie will play 15 and Pollard will play 10 this weekend. Or Steyn if he’s back from paternity leave.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.08.15 09:20:25 by Seth101 Reply
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  • I also think we are missing our dominant 8th man

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.08.15 09:30:22 by Dunx Reply

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  • The only good thing is the Rinky Dink was at 2012 levels/full

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.08.15 09:46:08 by benji Reply
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  • I’m hoping that Frans Steyn will be ready to go to Argentina and start at 15, but that’s like hoping Lambie value will be realised. Don’t think HM will ever see his worth and can’t really expect steyntjie to be ready for rugby, but also don’t see HM giving him a run at 15.

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.08.15 10:02:35 by Letgo Reply
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  • The team I’d like to see

    15 Lwazi Mvovo/Frans Steyn
    14 Lionel Mapoe
    13 Jesse Kriel
    12 Jean De Villiers/ Damian de Allende
    11 Francois Hougaard
    10 Patrick Lambie/ Elton Jantjies
    9 Cobus Reinach/ Faf de Klerk

    I want Jean to get another run at 12. Damian would be my 12 either way and he should be saved. I’d take Jean along to cover my bench an negotiate that last, crucial 20 min of games. He’ll play an important role in my team, but as long as Damian and Jesse is fit, that role will be of the bench. I would possibly even start Jan/Fsteyn ahead of him at 12, because I feel it’s a good think to have Jean fresh in the second half.

    I’d start Hougie at wing, since he was one of our best in SR and he can cover 9. I would give Faf and Elton 30 min in the second half to show what they can do together at international level. Basically try to play themselves into the 31.

    I would play Mvovo at 15 because he’s shown his quality there and we don’t have decent backup for Willie. I’d love to see Fransie back. At 15 he could offer the Boks plenty.

    I’m still thinking about the forwards (PSDT/ Jaco Kriel/ Willem), but would also test a few players and rest others.

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.08.15 10:20:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • It’s harder in the forward, because we need to pick a pack that can at least keep up with the Pumas to set up a decent enough platform for the backs.

    I would have loved to have Duane back, but that doesn’t seem likely. Willem could be ready and if he is his will be the first name in my back row.

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.08.15 10:27:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • I would also have played Marcell, but even if he’s ready I would save him. So my backrow -

    8 Jaco Kriel, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Flo/ Kolisi

    I’m not even sure if Willem and Flo wil be ready, so maybe Schalk would have to go.

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.08.15 10:32:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • I’d have PSDT, Eben as my locks. Lood on the bench.

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.08.15 10:32:55 by Letgo Reply
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  • We need to find backup for Jannie, so I would rest him again and play Malherbe/Koch (I feel like he needs another shot). He had a tough time, but maybe he would be better prepared this time. Who’s the other options Heinke vd Merwe?

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.08.15 10:35:16 by Letgo Reply
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  • I’d start Bissie again, because I don’t want the new 3 to be tested with a weaker front row. On the bench it has to be the 3rd choice. Burden/Britz/Scarra

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.08.15 10:37:03 by Letgo Reply
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  • Nyakane to get a start, I think Beast needs a break.

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.08.15 10:38:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • Whats evident for me is that HM selections has finally cought up with him. The old men in the team dont know what hit them. Is that old age talking?

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.08.15 10:39:57 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 11) : Think we need to send as many new players over as possible. I dont think we would benefit much from it by taking the same team over. Rather give the fringe players we uave a go so that they could possibly work their way back into the starting team.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.08.15 10:43:10 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : I guess all our points about Lambie/Pollard last week look awefully clever now!! Well, some of ours at least… :) If only HM will see it…

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.08.15 11:01:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 7) : Kriel at 8?

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.08.15 11:04:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 12) : I don’t think the old men in the team were so much the problem as some of the young ones… :lol:

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.08.15 11:05:35 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 16) : The old men sat in the stands like Bok royalty….I was waiting for Matfield and FdP to do the pageant wave every time the camera showed their smug faces. :roll:

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.08.15 11:36:58 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 17) : Yup…and a young ‘un or two – the one wearing the number 10, for example – should have been sitting next to them…

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.08.15 11:52:40 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I think we can get too emotional. Last week the ref stopped us beating the All Black’s in my view. The injuries are creating havoc and yes Lambie should have got more game time. We lack depth in certain positions and can’t afford injuries. The main issue is that the squad is starting to look overstressed. That can be a very bad thing.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.08.15 11:57:00 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 18) : That would have completed HM’s dream team…and the reason for the Boks’ demise.

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.08.15 12:09:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • One thing I just cant fathom out is, why, when early on in the game it was clear that Kriel was out of his depth on the wing, did Meyer not move De Allende onto the wing, Jean to 12 with Kriel outside him. In fact I think this is how they should have started the game. Jean’s preferred position is 12, Kriel has been brilliant at 13 and De Allende has played on the wing for the Stormers so it would not have been such a mind shift for him as it was for poor Jeese Kriel.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.08.15 13:04:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 20) : Yup… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.08.15 13:22:27 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 21) : Please don’t expect Heyneke to have common sense.

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.08.15 13:26:59 by Ben Reply
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  • To those that attended the game. Were there any boos doing the rounds when P##SdT touched the ball?

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.08.15 13:28:47 by Ben Reply
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  • I think it was Meyer’s plan to treat the K.P faithful to a display of world dominating rugby from his chosen no 10,.
    I can just imagine him thinking how he was going to silence the Pat Lambie lobby, right in their home ground with the local hero rooted to the bench.Especially when the visitors made 11 changes to their first team. He probably couldn’t believe his luck,and decided that as it was going to be party time lets give old donkey de Villiers a big piece of cake too.
    This was his easiest test in his last five outings and he blew it.
    He was so determined that this was going to come right that he persisted till the K.P crowd told him in no uncertain terms how we felt.It was only when Pollard committed the schoolboy error of kicking the kick off out on the full that he allowed Pat on.But at that stage his match management was n such shocking shit that he had de Allende at flank.

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.08.15 13:39:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 24) : We hardly realised he was on and he had a pretty under the radar game,I was unaware of anyone booing him.

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.08.15 13:41:06 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 25) :I’m afraid you’re giving HM and the KP crowd too much credit… Nothing Pollard did caused HM to pull him off for Lambie… Meyer had more than likely decided 2 weeks ago that Lambie would get 15 minutes this week… So pulling Pollard off when he did was nothing more than HM acting according to a pre arranged plan.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.08.15 14:19:54 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 27) : So you reckon it was in his masterplan to play de Allende at flank as well.

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.08.15 14:23:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 28) : Who knows… After playing Kriel at wing anything is possible

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.08.15 14:25:25 by CS Reply

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  • I just can’t understand why… With the World Cup mere weeks away… Willie LeRoux would play the whole game with a sprained ankle, JDV with a broken jaw and Koch with suspected broken ribs… Isn’t that irresponsible with only a few weeks to the WC… They should’ve been pulled off immediately to mitigate the risk of making injuries worse, and similarly Koch should never have started

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.08.15 14:31:17 by CS Reply

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  • I must say… A part of me felt sorry for HM during the game… I have never seen him look so stressed and utterly dismayed as he did at times during Saturday’s game… I think he sensed his 4 year WC “master plan” was shattering into a thousand pieces before his eyes.

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.08.15 14:34:19 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 31) : I can’t feel any sympathy for this man,he brings Heinkie van der Merwe back from Europe and gives himten minutes to prove himself .This guy hasn’t played a game in S.A in four years.Then he plays an injured player ahead of him.
    HE is so desperate for leadership in the team that he continues to play deadbeats like de Villiers,Mattfield,Burger,when he has the best super rugby captain at his disposal in Whitely.He persists with a cart horse like Pienaaar when he has Faf de Klerk,he plays out of form players like Brussow and Koilisi when he has guys like Kriel playing in their prime.
    His bigest problem is the bunch of A holes he has as his support coaching team.The Aussies put all provincialism aside when it comes to the Wallabies,Cheichka has Larkham as his backline coach even tho the two of them coach rival super rugby teams.

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.08.15 14:49:16 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : That coaching combo of the Ozzies has me very jealous…add to that, they now have forwards that can scrum (due to their Argentinian coach) and that don’t shy away from the rough stuff.

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.08.15 15:17:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • *sigh*

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.08.15 15:23:17 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 33) : My money is very, very reluctantly on the Aussies for the World Cup.
    They have a man at the helm who has absolutely no interest in winning a popularity contest,instead he has a single determination to win a World Cup.He will do whoever and whatever over, to get it.
    He is the type of guy who only has a place for winning,second is first loser,unlike Meyer who thinks second is second winner.
    I remember being taken to task here in an attempt to defend Jake White,I was told that no coach who was not loved by his players, ever won anything.Keep your eyes on Michael Cheikha

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.08.15 15:31:41 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 26) : Thanks, that’s disappointing. :)

  • Comment 36, posted at 10.08.15 15:46:06 by Ben Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 34) : You seem to be sighing a lot today. Are you okay my friend? Have a Kitkat. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 10.08.15 15:47:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 37) : Maybe it is because I have flu…or maybe it is just all this crap rugby we have to watch! Enough already!!! *sigh*

  • Comment 38, posted at 10.08.15 16:10:53 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Much blame to be laid at heinekens door for team selection etc.
    But it also must be said it wasn’t the coach that missed all those tackles or was caught napping in the quick take.
    Pollard was beyond abysmal. Also thought his attitude stank a wee bit, which was even more disappointing. For a kid to remonstrate because HE passed the ball forward is unacceptable.
    Lastly, same old bok problem. If the oppo forqardsatch us physically then there is no plan b. Argies played intelligent rugby – they were quite obvioauly well prepared to slow the ball down and attach the inside channel on defence. Talking about inside channel, that is now surely the most publicised move in world rugby now? And it wasn’t even well executed. Where were the pods and the supportive shoulder?

  • Comment 39, posted at 10.08.15 17:26:20 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • That said, boks are always best when all and sundry have written them off and they have a point to prove.

  • Comment 40, posted at 10.08.15 17:26:58 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 40) : Sadly they’ll feel vindicated if they trash the Argies in Argentina…for me, this loss will have permanently tarnished this Bok group.

  • Comment 41, posted at 10.08.15 17:48:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 41) : I’m with you.

  • Comment 42, posted at 10.08.15 17:49:49 by Ben Reply
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  • Both teams that played against the Pumas sucked!!!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 10.08.15 18:26:33 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 43) : Yup…it was that sort of weekend!

  • Comment 44, posted at 10.08.15 20:57:45 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 16) : Sure, but thats exactly my problem we shoyld have built a new team 4 years ago. The young ones are out of their dept, the old ones too old.

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.08.15 23:34:03 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : could not agree with you more and look what he did at the Tahs

  • Comment 46, posted at 10.08.15 23:49:59 by benji Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : again could not agree more with you these men are true top proffesionals

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.08.15 23:54:41 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 47) : Sadly our boys have proven themselves to be prima donna professionals…more interested in the fame a status than the actual responsibility they carry.

    Wish all South African athletes would follow the example of Marcel Coetsee – honest hard working person, no airs about him…his father did a very good job raising him.

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.08.15 07:12:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • When looking at Heineke’s previous errors in selection and general team administration and game admin (the prop registration debacle) it’s clear to me he is nowhere near a world class coach. And the player replacements which left us with no time to come back and a talented Centre at flank a misfiring scrumhalf as replacement when on form players are left back home. All of that just confirms that old HM is just flying by the seat of his pants. Grasping at straws hoping for the best. With what he has at his disposal he should have surely have been able to beat pumas. Yes the players played their part but that’s why you are coach you have subs you have time you have practice sessions, come on you clown do you Damn job!

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.08.15 07:51:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 45) : Clock has run out now he is looking for a lucky packet surprise or go back to the team he inherited for stability. He never had a clue how to build a new one.

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.08.15 07:53:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Some comments on here are quite laughable…yes of course the coach does things to spite people etc haha seriously! Yes on this site the Boks lost cos Pollard played but we all knew this before the game. So just to throw my own crazy thoughts into it. The Argies were really up or this game…a lot more so than the entire Bok side. Their game plan was well thought out and executed- so lets give credit there! The Bok pack was humiliated…the entire pack! Koch’s technical frailties were exposed..Brussouw was a passenger, Burger ran sideways and Coetzee looked a bit lost amongst the chaos…did Etzebeth play? Following the chaos in front of him Pienaar was very hesitant…that all got dumped on Pollard who also had a very average game but by no means was he the worst out there. The shite then got shovelled to DeAllende who for the majority of the game got monstered in the tackle and hit backwards. DeVilliers like Brussouw was a bit of a passenger…i would have thought he would have taken the ball at 12 a few times to lay a good platform. Kriel and Habana couldnt do much after the chaos inside them, same goes for Leroux. Also there was poor coaching not to make changes a lot sooner…yes DeAllende had to play flank but id rather have given the subs a chance to try salvage something…with 15min to go the game was over. Which is also why the subs perhaps looked a bit better as Argies had taken their foot off the gas-something that has cost them in previous games. So yes Reinach and Lambie looked sharper, Kolisi looked super unfit…Marcel Van Der Merwe and Nyakane were ok…PSDT some good some bad. Mvovo looked for a lot of work which was good to see. The public pressure to play a running game and not a kicking one cost the Boks here…after 15min we should have resorted to our trusted kicking game and forced the Argies to play from deep, instead they just capitalised on our errors trying to run it

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.08.15 08:57:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 51) : The only laughable comment is your dissertation trying to justify a record loss to an argintinian ream that didn’t look that much better than the one we beat last year. Then the Pollard thing? Really? Even your brilliant coach admitted he had a terrible game. As for Lambie and Reinach looking sharper a try and a very close one by Reinach equals almost 2 in 15 minutes so yes much better but no amount of brilliance by them would have swayed your opinion so you downplay it by saying argentina stepped off the gas.

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.08.15 10:05:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 52) : As i said on this site the comments are laughable. Everyone and everything is shite barring when Lambie is on. It really is becoming annoying. If you dont think the Argies played well you clearly did watch the game. I said Pollard had a poor game but he wasnt the worst. And the Argies had won the game with half an hour to play so clearly taped off. I said you hero Lambie did well and so did Reinach…but they also made mistakes….but those mistakes were probably becos Pollard was distracting them from the bench

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.08.15 10:24:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • What is worrying about this debacle is that the Boks looked so flat and disinterested against the Pumas. Almost like they could not be bothered to raise themselves for this game, after having two good games against the Aussies and AB’s. Our forward pack was soundly beaten, Marcell did not look to be over his injury, Pienaar reverted back to type, Pollard apart from a good goal kicking display looked out of sorts and petulant, and our defense out wide was a shambles.

    However I don’t think starting Lambie and Reinach would have made much difference to the result. I would still have preferred Lambie to start at 10 though to give him some much needed game time. I also prefer to have two tens fighting it out for the position, than a guy in the seat that seems to think the coach will back him no matter what.

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.08.15 10:45:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 53) : So if lambie starts next week and we win it’s because the argintinians made changes or were tired from this performance or stepped off the gas or whatever …you cannot win that far against a team who are doing their job. So WHEN my hero makes a difference next week there will probably be something you can find to downplay his contributions. Right?

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.08.15 10:49:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 55) : Its very seldom that the result hinges on 1 player- unless the 10 misses every kick at goal. Lambie will start next week…but probably at 15 with M.Steyn at 10. Either way- and there are a lot of possibilities with the lineup- i hate to tell you but the result will hinge on the forwards not the backs next week. If the Argie forwards dominate like thy did on sat you could have anyone u like at 10 and it wont matter much. Im also not sure if u saw this on tv but when Lambie came on he and DeAllende got in each others way a lot but DeAllende was having a poor game so hard to say that their combo could be a problem in general

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.08.15 11:19:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 56) : I don’t think this weekends game will mean shit to the Argies,they have achieved what they wanted,beaten the Boks away and for the first time missed the Rugby Champs wooden spoon.
    They have absolutely nothing to gain from this game and are not going to risk their top players this close to a World Cup.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if they field a B team.

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.08.15 11:25:32 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 57) : I think both yes and no. Yes it may appear a nothing game and they will ring changes but they will also be under a lot of pressure to win in Arg- that public is very demanding. I also think they guys they bring in will be fighting for a World Cup place. There will be nothing flashy but the Argies this weekend trust me- it will be all forward grunt again…how well they do it…well who knows…The Boks are in a difficult space…they will make changes…will need to travel….lots of self doubt in the camp through performance and/or injury. Argies will def think they can make it 2 for 2

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.08.15 11:46:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 15) : Played there this weekend for the Lions. Why not, he fits the position perfectly imo

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.08.15 12:06:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 24) : No, nothing for him at all.

    Pollard (actually Heyneke) was booed when he fluffed yet another kick-off. Then chants of Lambie started. It was loud at the game, you could hardly hear it on TV.

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.08.15 12:09:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 27) :

    You’re mistaken, Meyer’s pre-plan is always 3 minutes at 10, or 15 min at 15.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.08.15 12:11:02 by Letgo Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 56) :

    What are you on about? De Allende was at Flank when Lambie came on and they hardly interacted with each other.

    Pollard buckled under the pressure, as expected. I can’t blame us for feeling vindicated in our prediction.

    And he didn’t have “a very average game”. He had a shit game. And what was worrying, because of the pressure of the match, he even mad bad errors on attack … with some of the good possession we had.

    I’ve said it over and over, I rate the guy, highly and believe he could become world class, but he isn’t there yet. Certain assets of his game needs serious attention first and BTM became one of them this weekend. When the pressure was on, Pollard surely didn’t show any. He is a confidence player and when that confidence is down, he disappears.

    Had Lambie been given decent opportunities, during HM last 4 years as coach and especially now just before the WC when we need a good second option, the reaction from – lets call it Lambie Fans, would not have been nearly as big.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.08.15 12:25:35 by Letgo Reply
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  • Well I am not a Pollard fan. But I must say I get the feeling HM is mismanaging him. His confidence is consistently dropping and he has had some good knock so his body might be complaining too. But HM has only one cure play him some more. As much as I like Lambie this kid also has promise and HM may be on his way to physically or mentally damaging this kid. As much as I want Lambo to start he needs pollard as a partner as much as pollard needs him as a partner. We should have been at a stage already where these two were completely interchangeable. Does the all black coach have such great reservations in putting his nr 2 flyhalf in for nr 1? I doubt it. Same goes for all the other positions too they have the talent but no prep too long has HM believed he can win with his old team.

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.08.15 13:26:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 60) : I hope that display doesn’t throw lambie in disfavor with HM. The kid is trying his best to keep his boss happy so he can get his shot.

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.08.15 13:28:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • If Damian and Lambie got in each other’s way at any time I would attribute it to Damian inexperience at flank rather than the experienced flyhalf playing his position which he has played with countless other flanks. In the backline where Damian is comfortable they will gell no issues Damian is adaptable and Pat is probably the most adaptable player there is.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.08.15 13:45:56 by coolfusion Reply

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