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Two rounds in and where do we stand?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 18 Aug 2015 at 10:49
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I’ve been to-ing and fro-ing regarding the publication of player ratings articles for this Currie Cup. They’re generally well received by readers as an easily-digestible snippet of opinion as to how individuals performed in a given game, but have also proved to be unpopular in certain quarters, since it is hard to accurately represent all the nuances of a particular performance in a simple (and often arbitrary) numerical score.

I am also very keen to give the Sharks a break at the moment, given the tough times they’ve been through of late. I also don’t believe in being overly harsh on new players coming into a system for the first time, since we all deserve a bit of time to settle into our jobs. Coupled with the fact that I wasn’t able to watch last Saturday’s game live, player ratings for the season will be on hold until I feel the team has settled down well enough to objectively rate the individuals. That may happen next week, but will more likely be the week after.

I did want to share some of my thoughts and observations after two rounds, pertaining to how I think the guys are going. None of this is meant to be either glowing endorsement or damning indictment, since it’s early days yet and none of us is blind to the long road the Sharks still have to travel. Injury has also been far more of a factor, even in these first two weeks, than we would have hoped (even if experience has taught us to always expect the worst).

The tight five, as a whole, has been inconsistent. A poor first half in Nelspruit (where they were completely dominated) was somewhat ameliorated in the second period, but they again seemed to disappear for a decent chunk of the Kings game. Thomas du Toit has played well generally, but not been as solid at tighthead as we’d like, while the other props seem to be playing musical chairs (Juan Schoeman looks decent, though). Monde Hadebe was much better all-round against the Kings, but his lineout work is a worry. Etienne Oosthuizen has had a quiet fortnight; disappointingly, since we’re looking for big things from him. Marco Wentzel soldiers on and does his best to hold things together, but all in all, over the first two weeks, I’ve not seen signs of this tight five turning into the sort of monster unit to rival Sharks engine rooms of old.

In the loose trio, it’s been much the same – there have been some individually good performances, but not much cohesion. If we look at the primary jobs – protecting the ball and linking with the backs – then it’s hard to say that the Sharks loosies are earning their crust at the moment, but injury disruption has again played a role. Daniel du Preez, pleasingly, is taking every chance he gets, while Philip van der Walt, as a senior player, is taking longer to settle than I’d hoped. The number 6 jersey is cursed, with both Khaya Majola and Jean Deysel succumbing to injury while wearing it, but Francois Kleinhans put in a very good cameo against the Kings and there must be some hope, at least, that he might finally deliver if given an extended run.

Gary Gold has done well to back Stefan Ungerer and Lionel Cronje at halfback, despite disappointing form from the former and rather patchy play from the latter. Michael Claassens is superb – we know that – but Gold sees it as his duty to allow Ungerer to develop and will, I’m sure, be rewarded by a player who has clear talent, despite battling a little to find his feet at the moment. Cronje did some lovely things against the Kings and has a nose for the try-line, but also has the propensity to make bad decisions and really needs to focus on more consistency in what he does.

Heimar Williams and Wandile Mjekevu haven’t clicked yet and have both, I’d say, put in two rather average performances on the trot. Paul Jordaan is looking closer to fitness than ever and must surely come strongly into the reckoning in Mjekevu’s place, but we need to remember that both he and Williams are very green at this level and are playing behind a struggling pack to boot. Andre Esterhuizen has been better than expected at wing, using his physicality to good effect, while Joe Pietersen at fullback is worth every penny spent. As the more experienced wingers in the squad, I’d say neither S’bura Sithole nor Odwa Ndungane has really shown us anything yet on the other side, which is disappointing.

So not a great start, all in all, but the log position isn’t too bad given all that and there’s hope that if the injury gods are kind, the Sharks may be able to build a little more continuity in the coming weeks. What we do need, though, is for the seniors (and by that I mean every player not in his first season) to man up and show the way, because that’s not something that’s universally happening right now.



72 Comments

  • Thanks Rob

    I think we all hoped for beter cohesion especially after the friendly vs Lions and the camp. Hoping this week everyone pitches and are fully on the same page

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.08.15 10:54:16 by Kabouter Reply
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  • Very good state of the nation,agree with almost every point,especially giving the Sharks a break,I did that on Saturday,first home game I have missed since Okey Geffen wore short pants.
    It did me good.
    I was able to watch the game first time from a different perspective.
    Firstly that was a very good Kings side in as much as they arrived with some surprisingly unknown talent.
    Secondly the Sharks team were able to overcome their short comings on the field and didn’t disintergrate like they did in super rugby once they were exposed.
    I put this down to the absence of some very senior and negative talent,who had a disruptive effect on the field as soon as the team was in trouble.
    To answer your thought on the number 6,give it to the other twin as soon as he is fit.I know I sound like a stuck record but those two boys together on the field are something else .Much more one player than the Kriel twins,the Cronje’s or the Ebersohns..

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.08.15 11:06:53 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 2) : I want the twins in tandem, but at 7 and 8.

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.08.15 11:09:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : Yup with Marcel at 6,

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.08.15 11:30:56 by The hound Reply
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  • What will be very tough and perhaps the Sharks have got this wrong in recent times…how long do you back a guy/s that arent performing in the hope that they play themselves into their true potential??

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.08.15 11:43:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I thought Potgieter was coming to the Sharks?

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.08.15 12:21:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Just watching the game again. Maybe a little harsh on Ettas, who was good in the first half hour.

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.08.15 12:22:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • We need a Loose forward or 2 plus one or 2 solid locks, Neither our Locks are performing for me.

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.08.15 12:22:53 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Lineouts and scrummaging is a big concern

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.08.15 12:24:35 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • And whilst the Sharks are sleeping the WP/Stormers are shopping big
    I am not one for crying for a coach to be fired, and I am not gonna start now, but the Sharks can keep GG as DOR but they seriously need an experienced head coach.

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.08.15 12:26:21 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • In fact even HRE and Bashford would have us playing better rugby than we are dishing up right now.

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.08.15 12:27:25 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 6) : he is. Why?

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.08.15 12:28:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well I do not see him in the team Rob, or is he only contracted for SR?

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.08.15 12:33:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 13) : only coming for Super Rugby next year, mate. contracted in Japan for Currie Cup.

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.08.15 12:34:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • We have so many long term injuries it is killing us.

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.08.15 12:34:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Ah thanks bro, was wondering what happened to him.

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.08.15 12:35:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I was also very kind to Schoeman. He did nothing at all in the first half.

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.08.15 12:37:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : True

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.08.15 12:38:38 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • funny thing is if all injuries are done and dusted we would have a solid team except for Lock, only Lewies stands out as top notch.

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.08.15 12:38:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • ref very lenient on the Kings when it comes ruck infringements. Plenty of players on the wrong side, diving over rucks, taking out the scrumhalf, etc and he does nothing.

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.08.15 12:43:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • I wonder why the Sharks have not thrown the cheque book at the Bulls junior Bok from

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.08.15 12:43:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : That’s very true, I was so angry at him I wanted to blast him big time

    He and the other Ref that keeps nailing us, the Ref from the Puma game. same ref that cost us against the Bulls in SR at Loftus.

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.08.15 12:44:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 21) : you can throw as many cheques as you like, they tend to bounce off existing contracts.

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.08.15 13:00:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : True, but it is like we struggle to find top players wanting to come to the Sharks right now.

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.08.15 13:03:13 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 24) : we just signed Willie le Roux and Coenie Oosthuizen!

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.08.15 13:04:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Thought so as well.

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.08.15 13:31:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 26) : made at least 2 really good turnovers, a few good takes form the kick offs and some decent tackles too.

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.08.15 13:33:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Esterhuizen seems to love tackling, that guy was busy on defence.

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.08.15 13:34:47 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) : now imagine him and Frans Steyn together at 12 and 13,

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.08.15 13:36:52 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : great article rob. i was at the game on saturday and it’s so sad how empty the place looked and people were talking in the stands how bad the players and coaches are performing. i know people with season tickets that just don’t show up anymore something that started in super rugby.

    i for one am glad that some of our guys are getting an extended run win or lose as we have been saying for years we need to back our youth. a guy like monde hadebe bleeds for the sharks jersey and loves this union so im happy he is getting a look in now. he does need to work on finding his jumpers but i recall cooper and burden having the same problem at first.
    i think in off season they need to work on sbura getting alil bigger i really think he would be a great inside centre he makes metres and almost always gets over advantage line which can open things up for jordan. he himself has said he would like to give inside centre a go but that was casual talk at a bar. the only reason i can think of why the team is struggling is that its mental thing and they really need a shrink

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.08.15 13:40:36 by Poisy Reply
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  • Hi Rob! Nice write up. In general I agree with your sentiments. There are few of the details that I see a bit differently:
    1. Schoeman was a bit disappointing to me on Saturday. He showed a lot of promise in the warm-up game in PMB and caused me much excitement. His first appearance in the Currie Cup has tempered some of that excitement. But am happy to give him a chance to settle. I just wonder if he’ll get that if Chadwick and Adriaanse are back.
    2. Monde was better on Saturday, but even then…I reckon he is at the heart of our front row scrumming woes, his lineouts are a concern and I reckon if we need to invest anywhere for Super Rugby it is at hooker…
    3. …and at lock! Ettas was a bit better this week and hopefully that improvement continues. Marco has experience, but he lacks in several key areas and probably contributes to a weak tight 5 scrumming unit.
    4. The loose trio had a poor balance on Saturday and I look forward to what Francois Kleynhans can bring.
    As far as the backline goes I agree with your analysis…

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.08.15 13:41:55 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Joe Pietersen makes Fred Zeilinga’s departure very bearable. His career has probably also suffered because of his utility value but what a great acquisition.

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.08.15 14:03:22 by vanmartin Reply
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  • We have to question why this coaching team just cannot seem to get the best from these players. I’m not just talking about two Currie Cup games but what we’ve witnessed over the whole mightily disappointing year. Very worrying indeed when the players just seem flat, lacking in motivation and bereft of ideas or tactics.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.08.15 14:17:08 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 33) : bereft of ideas or tactics. Mate, did you see Esterhuizen’s try? Not sure what part of that was lacking in ideas.

    I’m worried that you are now so negative that you can’t even see the glass any more, much less how much liquid is in it.

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.08.15 14:29:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : ja, I hate being this negative but I fear with the people we have at the helm things are not going to work out. I’m standing back thinking we had a dreadful Super rugby season, one of our worst ever, and just lost to the Pumas and struggled against a Kings team at home. So whilst there are moments to celebrate, I’m looking at the wider trend. The Stormers look about to sign on Eddie Jones as coach. It worries me that Smit seems to have invested so much faith in Gold when it appears very apparent this guy does not have the ability to lead a team to trophies.

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.08.15 14:33:40 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • Lionel Cronje did very badly on defence against the Kings goes in too high with his eyes closed and battles to get his man down.

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.08.15 14:45:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Perhaps I am just frustrated at the lack of ambition the appointment of Gold signalled. And then, when we achieved nothing more than what Gold’s prior coaching record indicated – a bottom half of the table finish – nobody seems too perplexed that we’re still lumped with this guy.

    I made this point on another thread. Even if we do find a head coach, and leaving aside how worrying it is that a union as big as the Sharks could not attract someone more suitable than Gold in the first place (the Stormers are by all accounts just about to lure Eddie Jones), what makes us think that Gold is suitable as a director of rugby? What have we seen from this guy to satisfy us that he can bring excellence/dynamism/winning culture/future growth to the Sharks when his coaching record is largely average? What does his buddy Smit see in this guy that most average rugby fans cannot?

    Again, hopefully this doesn’t appear too negative – just asking a few hard questions.

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.08.15 14:46:13 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • I was ridiculously unfair on Philip. He had a damn good game against the Kings. Still no real cohesion in that trio, but individually he did a huge amount of work.

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.08.15 15:21:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • some individuals take longer to adapt to new surroundings. If you give 10 people free trips to a luxury resort some will take to it like a fish to water and some will still manage to be unsettled. Vander Walt is a good payer. He will find his mojo.

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.08.15 15:29:45 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • Where do we stand? We aren’t exactly standing. :)

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.08.15 15:43:54 by Ben Reply
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  • Well esterhuizen os certainly looking better last year. But maybe he should stay on wing for a while focus on basics. Meanwhile Williams and Jordaan can bring up center and sithole on the other wing once he is fit. Mjekevu can stand in on wing. I would swop Joe and Cronje 10 and 15. Claasens to start at 9 till Ungerer regains form.

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.08.15 15:51:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Ja must agree Rob think kicking the player while they’re down will not help us feel better or help then team perform better!!!
    Losing is not nice and I hate it if the Sharks does not perform but bitching and moaning will not solve anything so for me win or lose I’ll just support them.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.08.15 17:06:28 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : some players are really starting to find their feet, biggest problem for me is the tight five as none of them (except Marco) has performed anywhere near top Currie cup level (not even thinking of Super rugby level)!!!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.08.15 17:16:44 by JD Reply
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  • A question: This piece by Rob Houwing suggests some doubt on the PSDT move to Stormers –

    “The versatile young Sharks forward, supposedly Western Province/Stormers-bound from next season although this is yet to be officially confirmed, looked like a man on a mission…”

    Am I reading to much into this?

    Is his move definite? Have the Sharks not officially confirmed this?

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.08.15 17:53:23 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 44) : The Sharks confirmed that he is leaving. His future team hasn’t been confirmed by anyone.

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.08.15 17:57:21 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 45) : I also see his girlfriend is a physio at WPRU so it really should be a no-brainer.

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.08.15 17:59:11 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 45) : it is a bit weird though that nobody has claimed him. Something about his whole departure debacle stinks though, after those previous comments he made about his loyalty to the Sharks…

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.08.15 18:00:31 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • Edit: “…after those previous comments he made about his (dis) loyalty to the Sharks…”

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.08.15 18:02:04 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 47) : Who knows what is going on in his head. Seems like a confused young boy.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.08.15 18:07:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 46) : I really didn’t know this. So he left us to go and play for his girlfriend’s team. Twat!

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.08.15 18:08:43 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 50) : that’s according to a comment on N24 below the article I quoted from but if true it may explain part of his reasoning at least…

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.08.15 18:15:59 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • Eddie Jones going to the Stormers. Looks like Gert Smal can do no wrong. Haven’t been able to sleep well ever since Jake left. We are now just free falling.

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.08.15 18:51:37 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 52) : I’m glad someone agrees with me. I hope you are not labelled overly negative.

    The best thing Smit has done since his appointment was appoint Jake White. Everything since has been downhill. And it’s getting worse.

    I’m starting to wonder if the rot ends with Gold in fact.

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.08.15 18:53:48 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • Of course Eddie and Jake being such great mates there was never any chance of Eddie Jones coming to the Sharks after the way the Sharks treated Jake. And to think Jake was sent packing immediately after he got the team to the top of the conference and into the play offs…! Incredible, and even more incredible we quickly replaced the great World Cup and Tri Nations winner and worker of miracles at the Brumbies with a proven dud!

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.08.15 19:10:52 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 54) : sorry to disagree but Jake is an ass and I for one is glad he was sent packing! !! All he did was wallpaper over the cracks he did not fix anything. Think he rather caused a few more cracks!!!!

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.08.15 22:03:22 by JD Reply
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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 48) : I think this boy is a helluva lot cleverer than we all give him credit for.
    His contracts up at the Sharks and he was pressured to sign on for another year,he gave them the story that he couldn’t as the call of the wheat farm and the blou rok poppy in Malmesbury were too strong.But he hasn’t signed with the Stormers why?
    Because he is going to the World Cup, in England where is going to be the star player of the whole tournament,and the European teams will be lining up to out do themselves for his services.
    Would actually be funny if it all wasn’t going to come true.

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.08.15 22:25:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 55) : Are those the same cracks that made us conference winners? Then clearly what is happening now is the Red sea.

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.08.15 22:26:04 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 57) : Plum also made us conference winners boet. So yes it’s exactly the same cracks plus the ones he cause. Can you still remember the whole Esterhuizen story to name but one that we all know of?!?!?!

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.08.15 22:35:03 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 58) : sorry boet but the Sharks have only ever been conference “winners” once and that was last year under White.

    I use the term “winners” loosely because it is effectively winning nothing.

    Plumtree was leagues ahead of Gold. At least he won a Currie Cup or two and has that track record of winning a trophy. But Plumtree reached a plateau and we needed something a little extra to win Super Rugby. Jake White was the right appointment at the time, a step up, and I have no doubt that if retained he possessed the goods to lead the Sharks to the title. We need another step up right now. Gold is not the answer.

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.08.15 22:42:10 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 56) : that all sounds a little fanciful. I doubt any sensible person would walk away from a contract offer to nothing at all and leave it all to chance. He was still injured at the time – there was no guarantee then that he’d even play at the RWC when he bailed on the Sharks.

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.08.15 22:44:14 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 59) : don’t think we will see eye to eye about JW as I even dislike him (and what he did at the Sharks) even more than Rob’s dislike for the other player we’re not alowed to name!!
    The thing I think we can agree on is that we want the Sharks to win so let’s just stick to our common ground!!!!

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.08.15 22:49:10 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 61) : ooooh a mystery player we are not allowed to name?! I had no idea. Any clues?

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.08.15 23:05:06 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 60) : No mate he has already walked out on the Sharks without a contract that is a done deal.He was always going to the World cup if he recovered ,remember his grandfather was a Bok and thats guaranteed entry into Meyer’s team.
    He only had to play a half a game against the Lions for a Bok call up.These points aren’t up for contention they are facts.What is contentious is why hasn’t he signed for Province.
    The other thing is he only turned down the Sharks once he realised he was on the road to the World Cup,up until then he was a Shark till the day he died.

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.08.15 23:09:29 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 63) : it is curious that no team (read Stormers) has ‘fessed up to signing him. Were there any shenanigans in approaching PSDT before his contract was up? He was heavily courted by the Stormers apparently. Is the matter subject to a labour dispute and sub judice perhaps? Even then we’d be aware of the existence of a dispute at the very least. It is all rather curious. Until today I had no knowledge that no team had confirmed his signature. I had just assumed it was the Stormers and a done deal.

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.08.15 23:25:46 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 64) : Your assumption was right because that was the reason he gave to the Sharks when he decided not to sign,problem is he never told that to the Stormers,until somebody gives me a better story I’ll stick to mine.
    Behind this whole debacle is a greedy clever agent who would rather take his percentage in Euros or Pounds than in humble Rands.

  • Comment 65, posted at 19.08.15 08:21:57 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 65) : Apparently PSDT and Eddie Jones announcement expected next week…..But I am also a sceptic till the ink is dry on a contract, especially given the dismal nature of WP Admin….

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.08.15 08:42:34 by grant10 Reply

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  • Regarding the announcement of PSdT’s move to the Stormers, it apparently a protocol issue. The Stormers and SARU have to make the announcement together (I think he may be getting a Bok contract) but will only do so after the World Cup. The Sharks *allegedly* broke protocol by announcing his departure before the World Cup.

  • Comment 67, posted at 19.08.15 08:42:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • My biggest concern is the ‘apparent’ lack of passion in the squad. I expected more from the young lads.

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.08.15 09:53:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 68) : I didn’t see that on Saturday.

  • Comment 69, posted at 19.08.15 09:54:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : Maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention this week but definitely got that feeling against the Pumas.

  • Comment 70, posted at 19.08.15 09:58:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 62) : he is sometimes revered to as “the f*^%#ing traitor” or “the ungrateful one” and is apparently moving to the southern tip of the country to play for a team that plays in blue and white stripes although they did not confirm this yet.

  • Comment 71, posted at 19.08.15 10:24:40 by JD Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 70) : do think the guys underestimated the Pumas a bit and was blown out of the water in the first few minutes of that game. Guys played a lot better last week and hopefully will do so again this week.

  • Comment 72, posted at 19.08.15 10:28:46 by JD Reply
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