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Choices ahead of Lions visit


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 19 Aug 2015 at 10:18
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Gary Gold’s Sharks face their trickiest challenge to date, with the table-topping Golden Lions heading to Kings Park for this weekend’s third round Currie Cup clash. While a surprise opening-round loss to the Pumas away is probably something that can be taken in the team’s stride, one fancies that losing home games in this rather short Currie Cup season is a big no-no when it comes to knockout round qualification.

Gold has stated that he’ll back his young team in this competition and continue to invest in promising players despite any mistakes that might be made. One gets the feeling that this week – when the Sharks really do need to field their strongest available outfit in order to stand a realistic chance of winning – is the first time that the coach may have to make some tough choices.

Selections thus far have been mostly consistent, apart from the usual injury-enforced changes. Dale Chadwick appears to be back in training and could potentially replace Juan Schoeman at loosehead, since the Sharks cannot gamble with anything less then their most experienced front row for this clash. Thomas du Toit, as de facto first-choice tighthead, is going to have his work cut out for him and it would be very reassuring to have Chadwick on the other side, with all his accumulated learning in this competition. Francois Kleinhans could and should come in for the injured Jean Deysel at openside flank in the only other change to a pack that needs to discover its mojo blindingly fast.

It’s in the backline, though, that changes could come this week, with scrumhalf perhaps the most obvious of those. Gold has done admirably to back Stefan Ungerer, but can he really take the gamble of not starting the vastly experienced and in-form Michael Claassens in the number 9 jersey against the Lions? Anticipating some up-front struggles, it must become even more vital to have a scrumhalf who has done it all before and shown the ability to control matters behind a pack that isn’t necessarily dominating. Lionel Cronje has probably done enough to keep his spot (in the absence of any real competition), although once again, Joe Pietersen could be considered for a role closer to the action, given his experience.

The midfield also hasn’t exactly fired yet and with Paul Jordaan looking fit again, Gold must surely be tempted to make a change or two. Heimar Williams has been solid, if not remarkable, with his tendency to seek too much ground in contact resulting in a fair bit of lost possession against the Kings. Wandile Mjekevu has looked unsure of himself at outside centre and again, leaving that vital channel vulnerable to the inevitable Lions forays seems unwise. Gold will, I’m sure, look to pair Jordaan with either Andre Esterhuizen (who has been good on the wing) or Williams. A potential return to the side for S’bura Sithole this week again muddies the waters, but could indeed be the catalyst for a return to midfield for Esterhuizen.



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  • Somehow I think it’s going to be Esterhuizen and Jordaan starting at 12 and 13 with maybe Heimar in the bench. For me Claassens to start is a must especially as the forwards will probably be in reveres gear for most of the match.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.08.15 10:33:31 by JD Reply
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  • See Harold Vorster is out for the season. Don’t think that makes me dread the Lions any less though.

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.08.15 10:40:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Could be a few interesting selections but based on what iv seen the last 2 games i dont see how we will beat the Lions. Something major has to change…and like the cliche says- it all starts up front! Our lineouts need to work…we have to protect our own ball at ruck time. Get those 2 things right and it will go a long way to helping

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.08.15 10:43:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Not knowing exactly who is still injured makes this very difficult Also lack of quality lock back up is unknown, atleast for me that is.

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.08.15 11:00:22 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 2) : Pity…good player that!

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.08.15 11:01:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 2) : For me personally? Vorster is currently the best 13 in SA

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.08.15 11:01:03 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 6) : Snap…

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.08.15 11:01:20 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I would pick Chadwick, Kleynhans, Jordaan with Heimar…and leave the rest as is…except maybe move Ungerer to the bench and bring in Claassens…

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.08.15 11:03:27 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 8) : need to start with Franco Marais as well.

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.08.15 11:09:05 by JD Reply
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  • This is the team I would select

    15 SP
    14 Odwa
    13 Jordaan
    12 Esterhuizen
    11 Sbura
    10 Petersen
    09 Claasens
    08 VD Walt
    07 Du Preez
    06 Franna
    05 Wentzel
    04 Oosthuizen
    03 Du Toit
    02 Marais
    01 Chadwick

    16 Monde
    17 Schoeman
    18 Gerhard Engelbrecht ( I believe he is a TH?? )
    19 McDuling
    20 JL dup
    21 Ungerer
    22 Cronje

    Yes I am saying 2 props on the bench which means 1 less back on the bench, the Lions will put big pressure up front, unless we go for the uncontested scrum route??

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.08.15 11:13:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • My reason for leaving out Heimer is he has not been good so far and also if one brings in Joe at 10 we need a strong defender at 12.

    Heimer however could also replace Odwa at 14

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.08.15 11:15:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Mjekevu for me has been very poor

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.08.15 11:16:16 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Are messing up a potential future Bok 12 by playing him on the wing? Esterhuizen 12 Jordaan 13 Sithole wing. I’d like to see Joe at 10

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.08.15 11:16:30 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • My wishful pick: Chadwick, Marais,Du Toit, Wentzel, McDuling, Kleinhans, DuPreez,Van Der Walt,Claasens, Cronje,Williams, Jordaan, Sithole, Esterhuizen, Pieterson

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.08.15 11:19:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 10) : ja I that’s a good team and think the 5-2 split on the bench is a good move.

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.08.15 11:29:05 by JD Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 11) : ja I like Heimar but I do think this weekend the Sharks will need Andre’s size at 12 and therefor I would also pick him at 12.

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.08.15 11:30:40 by JD Reply
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  • Esterhuizen and Jordaan,Mannetjies Roux and Joggie Jansen,sigh memories.

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.08.15 11:43:32 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : I was inbetween starting Cronje or Joe at 10

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.08.15 11:47:28 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : I had that toos up too, i dont think Cronje has done too poorly. Pieterson has been alright not great. If he starts 10 that would mean SP Marais at 15…unless you move Cronje to 15 in a straight swap

  • Comment 19, posted at 19.08.15 12:06:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : @SheldonK (Comment 19) : currently I would rather have Cronje at 10 and Joe at 15 as the team is starting to gel and would love to see them play like that, but I would not cry if they do decide to play Joe at 10 and SP at 15 with Cronje on the bench.

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.08.15 12:12:57 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 17) : Thought you may find this worth a read….

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    Eddie wants Victor for the Stormers

    He hasn’t signed anything yet but the Western Province management staff have already been told that Eddie Jones will be coaching Super Rugby next year so it looks like the big talking point in Cape rugby at the moment can be considered a done deal.

    It is understood the appointment of the former Brumbies, Reds and Wallabies coach (plus of course a clutch of other teams such as Saracens) and current coach of the Japan national team will be announced within a few weeks. If there isn’t a late glitch and for some reason pen is not put to paper, thus will end a search for Stormers director of rugby Gert Smal that included approaches or a feeling out process to several overseas coaches.

    Former Crusaders and Wallabies coach Robbie Deans was one of those sounded out about his availability early in the year, and a serious approach was made to former Sharks coach John Plumtree, who is now assistant coach at the Hurricanes. It is understood from sources close to him that Plumtree gave what was considered a very attractive offer serious consideration but eventually turned it down on the basis that he didn’t want to uproot his family again.

    Durban based John Mitchell, the Lions’ Currie Cup winning coach of 2011 and a former All Black mentor, was targeted before Plumtree was, but turned it down on the basis that he wanted a four year contract rather than two and was uncomfortable with Smal’s insistence that he’d have to work with the same support staff that served under Allister Coetzee.

    Mitchell could still be involved as subsequent to him turning the Stormers down he was asked if he’d be prepared to work as a spot coach. That is the term given in Japan to coaches who serve as consultants and are called in every now and then to address specific areas of play but are not with the team constantly.

    Mitchell would probably still be available for such a role if Jones is coach – in his autobiography he didn’t make any secret of his admiration for the man he pitted himself against at the 2003 World Cup – and the prospect of Jones perhaps consulting occasionally with Mitchell on strategy would be a mouth-watering one for Cape rugby fans wishing to see their team improve the attacking game they have struggled with over the past few seasons.

    However the more pressing need, once Jones’ appointment is confirmed, will be the appointment of a fulltime forwards coach to replace Matt Proudfoot, who has followed Coetzee overseas. And that is where it becomes interesting, for the man that Jones is said to be determined to recruit is current Springbok stand-in captain Victor Matfield.

    The veteran is currently focussed on the World Cup and has been linked to a possible playing career swansong with English club Bath, something denied by the club itself. Matfield has served as an assistant at the Bulls for a few seasons and was until a short while ago considered to be in the running to succeed Frans Ludeke as head coach of the Bulls.

    Getting Matfield to leave Pretoria for the Cape might sound like a tough ask and thinking of Matfield linked to the Stormers and not the Bulls is a bit like imagining Portuguese chicken marinated in ice-cream rather than peri-peri.

    However, such a move might be good for Matfield in furthering his rugby experience and developing his coaching ability – there is still no clarity about who will be head coach at the Bulls – and it could also be good for South African rugby if you consider that three of the four Bok locks of the future should be on the Stormers books next year.

    The two No 5s, Pieter-Steph du Toit, who is Matfield’s heir apparent in that position in the Bok team, and Ruan Botha could certainly learn something from Matfield’s astuteness as a lineout technician and strategist.

    It might all sound like pie in the sky for now, but Matfield is said to be the man Jones would want to be his forwards assistant.

    Robbie Fleck grew a lot as a coach during the last Super Rugby season and is currently picking up experience as a head coach with the WP under-21 team, and there is a lot of merit in allowing him to grow under Jones by continuing in his role as backs coach, while current WP Currie Cup coach John Dobson should also be accommodated in the new-look Stormers management team for 2016

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.08.15 13:11:05 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 21) : rather link to the story than copy-pasting it here, please.

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.08.15 13:42:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : Will do….a bit technically challenged but will find out how to do it in future…

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.08.15 13:45:13 by grant10 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : PS…The thought of having Matfield in the Cape is giving a lot of old Weeepee fans more than a bit of indigestion .

  • Comment 24, posted at 19.08.15 13:46:30 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 21) : very interesting indeed, would love to see what happens!!!!

  • Comment 25, posted at 19.08.15 13:48:47 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 25) : Certainly interesting times ahead….

  • Comment 26, posted at 19.08.15 13:50:46 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 24) : hahaha ja I’m sure if Vic moved to weepee a couple of Bulls supporters will see him in the light as some Sharks supporters see the “unmentionable one” at the Sharks!!!!

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.08.15 13:52:42 by JD Reply
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  • Why do we need Esterhuizens size at 12? He is better suited to the wing, his performances at 12 were always erratic and you could not count on him getting the backline away. Like Cylde Rathbone, he is a big strong boy who can do damage on the outside, keep him at wing. Bring in Pietersen at Flyhalf and give SP Marais a shot at Fullback. Drop Odwa, for good, and bring in Sithole. Give Mjekuva another chance against top opposition, he needs to get himself involved this weekend. Big weekend for Thomas Du Toit, needs to stand up

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.08.15 14:14:17 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 28) : think we need Esterhuizen to dominate in mid field both on attack and defence.
    As for the old man (Odwa) what did he do to “get drop for good”? Do not under estimate his worth as he almost never has a bad game.

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.08.15 14:33:00 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 29) : Agree ,never seen Odwa not give 100% in a game,but then temper that with a call to bring back SP and give it the respect it deserves.

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.08.15 14:44:23 by The hound Reply
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  • Guys, are there any rumours whatsoever on who will coach us in 2016? Anything at all?

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.08.15 14:48:50 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : hahaha ja boet did not think of it like that………

  • Comment 32, posted at 19.08.15 14:57:30 by JD Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 31) : only thing I know it will not be Plum or Jake White……
    hoping that maybe they’re busy signing a coach that will be out of contract after the world cup?!?! (but that might be wishful thinking)

  • Comment 33, posted at 19.08.15 15:00:13 by JD Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 21) : Seems as if PDivvy wants the job, surely in this time and place he should get first look in at the Newlands job.
    This could get intersesting.
    Go snorre.

  • Comment 34, posted at 19.08.15 15:21:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : hell just hope he does not get the job at the Sharks!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 35, posted at 19.08.15 15:28:10 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 35) : :shock:

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.08.15 15:34:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 35) : :twisted:

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.08.15 15:34:14 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : Not sure why he or any other coach has any inherent right to the job….personally I am not a fan, he allowed himself to be manipulated far too much by the so called senior Boks during his tenure at Boks for my liking. I would have wanted Mallet….Mitchell….B Venter [ full time of course ] …..in that order…Jones will add some different thinking, but Stormers will need either Smal driving the forwards, or Mitchell being quite hands on if I am reading the article above right….

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.08.15 15:52:29 by grant10 Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 31) : My money would be on Dick Muir,with help if not in a formal capacity from Gary Teich and Mark Andrews

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.08.15 15:58:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The Hound: Right, Mr Rugby himself, why not give SP a go at Full Back? This is a watered down CC, not S Rugby, there is far more time on the ball in which SP will thrive. ODWA, never said he does not give 100%, his 100% is no longer good enough. I do not feel he offers enough to the side and feel a side with Esterhuizen and Sitole on the wings, adds far more danger.

    @JD: Esterhuizen is strong but young, he will not dominate Mnisi. It sounds to me you want a 12 who does one thing and one thing only, try and run over, dominate the other 12. We must remember, Esterhuizen is not a Nonu, no where near as skilled and does not run the same lines. Esterhuizen has played better on the wing, fact. He has more time, space and does not need to be the vital decision maker. Give Heimer more time to mature in the position.

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.08.15 16:21:05 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 31) : Rumours??? Mitchell is still a rumour.

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.08.15 16:24:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Punchy. Nonu at 21 wasn’t as skilled as he is today as I remember it so I wouldn’t write Esterhuizen off yet at 12 and can develop (and has shown some nice skills/lines already on occasion) – although I’d be open minded between 12 and 14. Reminds me a bit of Shane Horgan who did a great job for Ireland out wide despite being a big guy and probably not the speediest.

  • Comment 42, posted at 19.08.15 16:34:48 by JR Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 40) : look each to his own,but in my very humble opinion Odwa’s less than 100% is still 80 % better than SP’s normal 20 %

  • Comment 43, posted at 19.08.15 16:37:19 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 39) : can’t see Dick returning to coaching. Maybe time to try and lure du Preez and Small from Potch to Durbs?!?!

  • Comment 44, posted at 19.08.15 16:40:39 by JD Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 38) : I wonder if Venter would commit to a full-time job in Cape Town….

  • Comment 45, posted at 19.08.15 16:42:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 40) : that’s were you’re totally wrong boet.
    Usually I prefer a 12 to distribute the ball like Heimar does but on Saturday, with a forward pack that in all likely hood wil be in reverese for most of the game the need at 9, 10 and 12 will be way deferent than the last few weeks.
    I believe in horses for causes and for this week it will be Claassens, Cronje and Esterhuizen.
    As for your comments on Odwa, do you actually watch what he does on the field or do you just look at his age?!?!?! Odwa is a super solid player that makes very very very few mistakes in a game and also reads the opposition play way better than any of the youngsters.

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.08.15 16:52:55 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : don’t think so I have a feeling he just wants rugby as a part time job to supplement his income.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.08.15 16:55:33 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : I don’t think he would accept anything that would not allow him to continue in his medical practice.

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.08.15 17:05:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 48) : must say I have the same feeling about him. Will help as an advisor that does not need to travel to much.

  • Comment 49, posted at 19.08.15 17:08:22 by JD Reply
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  • Robert du preek could be a perfect fit for us. He takes no shit and he’s a sharky

  • Comment 50, posted at 19.08.15 17:15:38 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • At the risk of making myself look stupid, what about Dawie Theron? Don’t know anything about him at all but, this year’s semi aside, he’s turned out some decent sides that played good rugby in the U20s and has brought forward some great talent very early (eg Handre Pollard when he was still at school).

  • Comment 51, posted at 19.08.15 17:25:56 by JR Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 50) : ja also would like it if he move to Durbs and would like the other Sharkie namely James Small to join him in Durbs.

  • Comment 52, posted at 19.08.15 17:38:16 by JD Reply
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  • @JD: do I watch him or judge based on his age, bud, that is a ridiculous statement and one which would assume I have no incline into what rugby requires from a player. I watch, I watch very closely and make an informed decision based on what I have seen. I have nothing against Odwa and the man should be praised for his services to not only the Sharks Franchise, but SA rugby to. His has been a servant but his time has come. Like I have said, he Odwa is currently the best we can offer in Natal, we are extremely short stocked. I would rather have a young guy trying his heart out, making a mistake as he goes, than someone you call solid. Solid because he makes no mistakes. Perhaps that is because he is not getting involved? You see, in terms of a blog, I hate the fact I have to have a dig at someone I have the utmost respect for, but I do not feel he is good enough any longer. By all means, I would love for him to have a blinder and prove me wrong, but I can’t see it happening. With regards to Nonu he was started on the wing, as was Umaga. This is what I am saying, play the big man at wing and work on his skill set. He is not a top level 12 at this stage. Again, all of this is just here say and my personal opinion

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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : He does not seem to enjoy the best relationship with the suits this side….

  • Comment 54, posted at 19.08.15 17:46:01 by grant10 Reply

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  • It doesn’t really sound as if even the rumour mill has serious suggestions for head coach (except maybe Mitchell…and I would be surprised if he takes it)…?

  • Comment 55, posted at 19.08.15 17:49:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 53) : look I don’t think we will see eye to eye on this so ja let’s just agree to disagree and leave it like that.
    By the way sorry if you took my comment as in insult as it was not ment to be I just don’t know what Odwa must do more to deserve a place in the starting team as he’s by far the most consistent back on the field, yes not the fastest anymore but rugby is not the 100m sprint where speed is everything its a game of skill and vision.

  • Comment 56, posted at 19.08.15 18:42:18 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 55) : think he already turned down the job.

  • Comment 57, posted at 19.08.15 18:43:51 by JD Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 54) : o isn’t life interesting…. wifey does not want to live where he’s wanted and where he lives he’s not wanted!?!?!

  • Comment 58, posted at 19.08.15 18:46:19 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 58) : apparently so

  • Comment 59, posted at 19.08.15 18:59:57 by grant10 Reply

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  • Is the currie cup shorter this year? I thought it was just as long as last year. Or am I missing something?

  • Comment 60, posted at 19.08.15 19:14:51 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 60) : same length, I think. 10 rounds. With only 5 home games, you don’t want to be dropping any, though?

  • Comment 61, posted at 19.08.15 19:22:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JD: fair enough and I fully agree with your comments on vision and skill, hence me not being over keen on Esterhuizen at 12.

    Apparently, from 2017 onwards, the CC and Super Rugby will be played at the same time. U21 and 19 will be scraped in favor of an u20 comp. effectively meaning the CC will be incredibly young. When that season ends, then apparently all players will be offered to clubs. Quite an interesting thought…

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.08.15 20:02:27 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 62) : so basically Vodacom cup will be called Currie cup?!?! STUPID!!!!!! Also think the idea of playing U20 competition is a good one but I think it will be a to big step to senior rugby for the youngsters as a lot of them only really start to future at senior level at 22-23 years old so would maybe also go for a U21 or U22 competition to give their bodies time to mature.

  • Comment 63, posted at 19.08.15 20:56:23 by JD Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 53) : “Perhaps that is because he is not getting involved?” Sorry, but this is where you lost the plot. Odwa is, and always has been, one of the hardest working wings, always getting involved, and looking for work. If players like JPP or Mvovo were able to emulate Odwa’s workrate, they would be completely unstoppable. So, while you do raise some good points, but I am sorry, you can question Odwa’s “lost” pace, his “lost” finishing ability (both are debatable), but his workrate is beyond question.

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.08.15 20:59:16 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 63) : I agree, a U22 competition makes more sense. That age range would also match up well with most Varsity Cup sides, so maybe a short comp of top four teams from U22 CC and top 4 from Varsity cup would raise the level of all involved, just a thought. Turning the Currie Cup into what the Vodacom Cup is now would be sad to see for a competition with such a glorious and long history.

  • Comment 65, posted at 19.08.15 21:06:23 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 65) : would be totally idiotic to rename Vodacom cup into the Currie cup!!!!! Can’t think that even the idiots in charge of SA rugby would be so stupid to do something like that!!!!

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.08.15 22:37:17 by JD Reply
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  • Lions by 25

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.08.15 04:50:29 by Orlok Tsubodai Reply

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  • So ultimately SA Rugby then confesses that they have totally devalued the Currie Cup and they therefore feel it is ok to officially make it a second rate competition. I’m disappointed that they think that is the answer…

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.08.15 06:55:25 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Orlok Tsubodai (Comment 67) : That’s a good start. I’ll add by 2c: Lions by 8…

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.08.15 06:56:14 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Personally I think wing would be good for esterhuizen ‘ s growth for now Lionel should stay at 10 and Joe is safe at 15 mjekevu should be on the wing if anything and Jordaan Williams on center. If Sbura is ready the Mjekevu to the bench. Claasens to start.

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.08.15 08:01:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sharks to surprise everyone and edge it.

  • Comment 71, posted at 20.08.15 08:05:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 71) : hope so but not to sure.

  • Comment 72, posted at 20.08.15 08:25:16 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 72) : Just putting it out there in the universe. Positive energy and all that.

  • Comment 73, posted at 20.08.15 08:47:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 71) : Now this is a version of coolfusion I can get on board with

  • Comment 74, posted at 20.08.15 08:56:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 70) : I concur…unfortunately i dont think its really our backline thats causing the problems at the moment

  • Comment 75, posted at 20.08.15 08:59:50 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 75) : Correct but it also doesn’t help that when we do have opportunities they are wasted also backline defense at the times the we’re pressured didn’t look all that great. I would rather have mjekevu on wing than allowing lions to break midfield. In front I support getting kleinhans some time. He was a great prospect at one time just kind of slipped through the cracks. I assume Franco will be the starting hooker? Would have loved some options at lock. Oosthuizen still a big risk.

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.08.15 09:10:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 76) : I agree with Mjekevu to wing…he has been invisable at 13. I also feel that our backline hasnt fired on atatck partly due to the shoddy ball from the forwards but also Ungerer has been slow and inaccurate. On defense i hate to blame the guy again but if Mjekevu isnt communicating well from 13 then there will be gaps as guys arent aligned and on same page. Up front we hav to win our scrums and lineouts so for me Hadebe has had his chance but has too many weakneses in his core function. Id like to see Kleinhans get a chance…he was injury prone the last chance he got and also used to be a penalty risk so hope he has sorted out both those fronts as the guy is damn strong. Also wondering if we will ever see Garth April given a run?

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.08.15 09:27:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 77) : I would still rather have Odwa or Heimer on the wing than Mjekevu, his hands are poor and he looks lost half the time.

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.08.15 09:29:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 78) : Im sorry but i dont get the calls for Odwa’s inclusion but the entire year we have asked for the youngsters to be given a chance? Yes Odwa has experience but has lost all pace. Id much rather back a youngster- especially on the wing. Heimar should be given a run at 12…the guy gets 1 or 2 games a year mayb and is expected to be the next best thing. (This with invisable Mjekevu next to him)Mjekevu reminds me of a spoilt kid just waiting to throw another tantrum if doesnt get his way..i did have reservations when we signed him!

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.08.15 09:36:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 79) : Sheldon yes Odwa has lost pace but he still gets the job done better than most, I will go with Heimer at 12 but then I would rather have Jordaan or Esterhuizen at 13,

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.08.15 09:44:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I agree on Mjekevu

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.08.15 09:45:10 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : I think Venter has his eye firmly on the Bok job and ,and is perfectly positioned as always to step into it when Meyer disgraces the country with a quarter final exit at the World Cup.That is just one scenario.

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.08.15 09:45:43 by The hound Reply
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  • I may have missed a post or two. But what has happened to Kyle Cooper? SP getting back into the gold but not Kyle?

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.08.15 09:46:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 83) : Kyle still out injured

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.08.15 09:48:00 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 79) : I’d like to see Charlie Mayeza get a run

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.08.15 10:02:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 80) : im still not convinced that a quick youngster couldnt do the same job as Odwa but also offer more speed on attack…Sharks have lost a guy like Sizo Maseko because they have kept faith in Odwa. Odwa has done fantastically well for the Sharks…but his time is up im afraid. Adds minimal value

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.08.15 10:04:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 85) : Agreed…Garth April who we ‘signed’ too. But like i said in a previous post…i think its the grunt up front we are missing badly

  • Comment 87, posted at 20.08.15 10:16:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Arrived at Absa Stadium for the first time in a couple of years.Decided to try coming to support the Sharks again.Must be expecting 40000 spectators.Can’t get a seat closer than the dead ball line.No leg room and Sharks u19 getting hammered.Long afternoon ahead for my last visit.

  • Comment 88, posted at 22.08.15 14:26:11 by Steve Reply

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