Richard Ferguson

Boks change 1 for Wales


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, RWC 2015, Springboks on 14 Oct 2015 at 11:50
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JP Pietersen is the only change to the starting team that beat USA so comprehensively a week ago to face Wales in the Rugby World Cup Quarter Final match this Saturday.

The bench sees four changes with the experienced quartet of Jannie du Plessis, Adriaan Strauss, Ruan Pienaar and Pat Lambie returning to the fray after missing out on the USA hammering.

The only player currently in the Bok setup that was not considered for this match was Victor Matfield, who is still suffering the ill effects of his hamstring strain.

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Fourie du Preez (captain), 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Jannie du Plessis, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Willem Alberts, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jan Serfontein.



68 Comments

  • I would rather have kept Paige on the bench, would love to see how he combines with Lambie.

  • Comment 1, posted at 14.10.15 11:54:15 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • Good team, I still believe Lambie should start with Pollard at 12, but happy with the team.

  • Comment 2, posted at 14.10.15 11:55:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 1) :

    As I mentioned to a work colleague, what happens if Fourie goes down in the first 5 minutes, would you be happy with Paige there for 75 minutes in a crunch match like this?

  • Comment 3, posted at 14.10.15 12:04:30 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 1) :

    But I do agree with the potential between those two, I think future Bok teams with those two coming off the bench might be something to look forward to.

  • Comment 4, posted at 14.10.15 12:05:19 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Good side. I like the experience on the bench as we will need an 80min performance. The Welsh will come at us all game. If our defense can hold them out when thy are ontop they will get frustrated and give us chance. Lets hope the team playing the best wins and not a result of a retarded ref call.

  • Comment 5, posted at 14.10.15 12:12:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : How old is Paige? Also will be interesting to see how the Bulls use Paige and Hougaard next year, and even Kriel for that matter.

  • Comment 6, posted at 14.10.15 12:13:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Hi Rich agree 100%, Specially if it rains and Fourie gets injured.

  • Comment 7, posted at 14.10.15 12:13:49 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I’m just going to preempt the inevitable Lambie vs Pollard argument by referring anyone interested in that particular debate to this thread where it was most recently used to bore the rest of us to the edge of sweet oblivion: http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2015/10/05/strong-boks-for-usa/#comments

  • Comment 8, posted at 14.10.15 12:15:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • It’s going to be cold and probably wet on Saturday, so Meyer must have had this in mind, otherwise there’s still absolutely no reason to have Pienaar on the bench or anywhere near a Bok jersey for that matter.

  • Comment 9, posted at 14.10.15 12:16:29 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • We will have to find a way to neutralize Walburton – probably the first real breakdown specialist we are coming up against in a while. Japan chopped our predictaBull forwards down and turned over quite a few balls.

  • Comment 10, posted at 14.10.15 12:17:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Hard luck to Mvovo who drops out of the match day squad completely. Very tough decision but with JPP starting to show some form it’s probably the right call.

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.10.15 12:18:59 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 9) : As impressive as I found Paige, I doubt there’s any way that Meyer would take a chance on fringe players in the play-offs unless his hand is forced through injuries. I’m guessing very few coaches would.

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.10.15 12:21:57 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 8) : there is no argument, the wrong guy is starting ;)

  • Comment 13, posted at 14.10.15 12:22:24 by HeinF Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 12) : Sure, I’m just of the opinion that Paige or Faf or whoever should have had the experience by now, but Meyer has kept selecting Pienaar so now we have this situation where an out-of-form oldie has to play instead of an in-form player with some experience.

  • Comment 14, posted at 14.10.15 12:28:19 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Sure but I am also not to exited to see Pienaar there either…. would be frustrating to watch the rest of the match.

  • Comment 15, posted at 14.10.15 12:31:59 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 12) : True Paige did look good but its also easier when your forwards and team are dominating and the game is won already. Different matter in a close knockout game against a tough Welsh side disrupting the ball at the breakdown

  • Comment 16, posted at 14.10.15 12:32:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I am just very glad Lood is starting. I have no doubt HM would have selected Matfield to start had he been fit to play.

  • Comment 17, posted at 14.10.15 12:32:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Is the Morne Steyn conspiracy theory finally put to bed?

  • Comment 18, posted at 14.10.15 12:34:38 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : Me too. When I saw there was one change I thought it would be Matfield. Very relieved that it’s not!

  • Comment 19, posted at 14.10.15 12:35:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @HeinF (Comment 13) : Correct lol

  • Comment 20, posted at 14.10.15 12:35:40 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Here is a fact, the AB’s performed at their best when they started with 2 flyhlaves a few years ago, Carter the tactical calm player (10 Lambie) and Aaron Mauger the big strong runner distributor (12 Pollard)

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.10.15 12:37:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • This would have been my backline, 15 Le Roux, 14 JpP, 13 De Allende, 12 Pollard, 11 Habana, 10 Lambie, 09 Fourie. Reserve Backs: 21 Ruan, 22 Kriel, 23 Mvovo.

    Make no mistake I will support the selected team like I would any team chosen, I just believe 2 kickers on the field gives more options, Lambies calmness another god thing plus far more play making options.

    Also Lambie is a far better tactical kicker which means more options.

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.10.15 12:42:00 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 21) : I do like that thinking. Look at how the AB’s game has evolved now that Nonu has improved his passing and kicking skills as opposed to bash bash.

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.10.15 12:42:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I would only have been angry had Lood been dropped for Matfield.

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.10.15 12:42:58 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 21) : Whereas we have been using Schalk and Victor :roll:

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.10.15 12:43:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : Thanks Sheldon, I truly believe in that way of selecting a backline.

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.10.15 12:43:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 25) : Exactly, :cry:

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.10.15 12:44:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 24) : Rumours are they wanted to start Matfield on the bench instead of PSDT so he could become captain as they dunno if DuPreez will keep lasting the full 80

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.10.15 12:45:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 26) : I think it gives u the most options and the way teams defenses are so organised hese days u need options. Would you play a ball player/linking 8 like say Whitely? or someone who rather carries and clears rucks like Vermuelen?

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.10.15 12:48:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Fact is with Lambie at 10 defence will not suffer, and with Pollard at 12 he still offers that big fast string running 12 but he distributes better than De Allende, De Allende again is fast big and strong which is needed for a 13, Running off Lambie and Pollard would make him more dangerous.

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.10.15 12:48:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : Sheldon without a proper fetcher like Marcell, Brussow or Kriel I would stick to Duane as he fetchers too, only fetchers we have is Bismark and Duane, Louw is a one in 10 tests player, most games you hardly notice him.

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.10.15 12:50:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : If you play a Whitley you need a Alberts at 7 and a Marcell at 6.

    then you do not lose grunt, Duane offers the grunt as well.

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.10.15 12:51:58 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : That would have been silly, Duane btw is not a bad captain. we cannot play players just for so called captaincy, there are enough senior players in the team.

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.10.15 12:53:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : Actually other side of the coin is they could have played Duane at 7 and Whitley at 8.

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.10.15 12:57:07 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Why do I feel so little for this team,I have waited for the green to run hot in my blood but this year it refuses to.
    I probably won’t celebrate if the Welsh win but it won’t be the end of the world either.
    I can’t bring myself to wear the jersey on Fridays,and I sure as shit am not kicking myself for not making the trip this year.

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.10.15 13:00:02 by The hound Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) : Thats the side of the coin my thinkign leans towards as Vermuelen is a great player but he is playing the role of a flank at 8. He also plays to the ball which will aide who ever plays at 6. Id prefer a quicker/linking player at 8- hence a Whitely/Prinsloo(unconvential i know)/Carr type

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.10.15 13:00:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : Correct.

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.10.15 13:04:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : What I find is we have a very slow loose trio.

    Schalk, Alberts, Louw and Duane all slow, Alberts maybe the fastest?

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.10.15 13:05:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 38) : I don’t think Alberts is faster than Schalk or Flo.

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.10.15 13:08:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : Then they all slow lol

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.10.15 13:09:00 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : @Pokkel (Comment 39) : Maybe when he is in bone crunching mood he just looks faster?? :mrgreen: :lol:

    Actually I beg to differ re Schalk, eish when he is being chased it looks like he is standing still lol

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.10.15 13:10:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 38) : I think our locks are probably faster which is causing us issues at the breakdown cos the locks are there and clear the ruck but loosies take forever to gt there to secure the ball hence its messy. The lack of pace also affect our defense as we are slow to shift and cover space

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.10.15 13:11:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : I agree, I’m still pissed off that Marcell isn’t at the WC.

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.10.15 13:11:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 42) : Correct again.
    @Pokkel (Comment 43) : Tell me about it Pokkel, disgraceful really.

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.10.15 13:14:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 43) : If he isn’t injured, why have we had Etienne “Whats a pass?” Oosthuizen and not Marcell at 7 for the Sharks?

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.10.15 13:44:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 45) : contracted to Japan

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.10.15 13:51:18 by JR Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 45) : Because Marcell is contracted to a Japanese club this year. It’s either the Boks or the Japanese club for him.

  • Comment 47, posted at 14.10.15 13:54:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : Ive forgotten to wear mine on Fridays for the whole WC so far. :shock:

  • Comment 48, posted at 14.10.15 14:21:34 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 48) : Is that cos u dont support the Boks or your laundry is bad?

  • Comment 49, posted at 14.10.15 14:24:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Marcel is still in SA….having holiday

  • Comment 50, posted at 14.10.15 14:31:12 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 49) : Mostly because Im so “deur die mis” for the first few hours of the day. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 14.10.15 14:34:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Strongest possible Bok team!!!!!!!! Go Bokke!!!!!!

  • Comment 52, posted at 14.10.15 14:48:26 by JD Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 22) :

    “Lambies calmness another god thing” – I like Lambie, but I don’t know about that! ;-) ;-) ;-)

    I just had to…

    This is a good team. Now is not the time to make changes. HM will have to stick with the guys he has trusted to do the job. Lambie has only had 2 games out of the 9 this year. And only played 4 games for the Sharks. He is not match fit. If you wanted him at his best at this World Cup he needed to be given more game time.

    Also, the Lambie, Pollard, Damian thing is a great idea, I think, but not the time the experiment.

    I’m just hoping Pollard will focus on what he does best and at least deliver a solid performance in other, less prominent, parts of his game. He can be seriously dangerous on attack and if the team could get a good lead, maybe we won’t need him to make to many quick, crunch decisions.

    Having said this, crunch time is usually nearer to the end of a game 30/20 min to go and if HM knows anything about his two talented fly halves he will give Lambie at least 20 min to drive home the advantage (hopefully).

    Good to see HM stuck with Lood and Malherbe.

  • Comment 53, posted at 14.10.15 15:21:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 52) :

    Almost …. maybe at this stage and taking everything Meyer has done leading up to this moment into consideration.

    I could still argue that Paige is better than Ruan and Schalk can be anything from brilliant to awful, which makes him a liability in my opinion.

    If you start considering players left behind, players not given game time, maybe you could come to another conclusion, but you can’t really argue with this team given the current situation.

    Oh yeah and GO BOKKE!

  • Comment 54, posted at 14.10.15 15:26:11 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 54) : strongest team with the current players that’s in the group.
    Schalk surprise me every game as he’s been busy and has had a good World cup thus far!

  • Comment 55, posted at 14.10.15 17:10:00 by JD Reply
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  • Thankful to see no Matfield….that alone makes me a lot more forgiving toward the incessant inclusion of Pollard….let’s hope the whole team shows tons of composure and crush the Welsh dreams.

    Stay grounded and knock the Welsh back….go Boks

  • Comment 56, posted at 14.10.15 19:44:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 56) : yes that’s the spirit!!!!

  • Comment 57, posted at 14.10.15 21:36:24 by JD Reply
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  • @JR (Comment 46) : @vanmartin (Comment 47) : Thanks. Was oblivious to the fact. :oops:

  • Comment 58, posted at 14.10.15 21:55:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I’m more worried about the gameplan than the players chosen. They are all capable men but the plan is what worries me.

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.10.15 07:38:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 59) : The problem is you can’t really change it now. South African rugby is unfortunately like an oil tanker – once you headed into a direction, it is very difficult to change direction very quickly. Hopefully the Boks can make a few tweaks to add a bit more variation on attack.

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.10.15 08:58:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 60) : There is nothing wrong with the traditional SA gameplan. But as you say its how we vary that gameplan and hav options that matter. So play off 10 not 9 or at least have 2 options off 9 not just one forward pod for defenders to target. Play left and right not just 1 direction. There must always be the behind the forwards option to the backline who are deep or even a wing coming on a short run off 9 instead of the forwards. Id love to see a lot more pick and drives especially after we break the first tackle.

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.10.15 10:55:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 61) : and remove Burger at no10….

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.10.15 11:07:16 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 61) : As it stands – it is really very easy to predict what the Boks will do. The ball will go from 9 to a loose forward / pod of forwards. This bash – bash will continue until the 9 either box kicks, or decides to send it to the flyhalf where either the ball is simply shifted to the wing (who will have little space to operate) or to De Allende will try and bash it up.

    If FdP controls this process – it works a bit better. Pienaar – not so much.

    The problem is that the defenders can start lining up their targets in advance, with the ball stealers targeting the tackle. The Japanese (through Eddie Jones) knew exactly where to defend, and often managed to turnover our ball.

    So definitely we need to vary the play a bit more – make use of opposition coaches bargaining on our predictability.

  • Comment 63, posted at 15.10.15 11:22:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 63) : Yeh look i def dont think we need to be playing the type of rugby where we throwing hundreds of passes with these intricate moves etc. I think we need to pick and drive more and when the ball does come out we need a ball carrying option both left and right so an option. And then a third option would be the backline. As for the backline- run from deep and at angles with 1 dummy runner. SA is blessed with big quick guys so just give them the ball with a little bit of direction

  • Comment 64, posted at 15.10.15 11:40:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 64) : Agreed – we just don’t have the skill levels in SA to play that sort of rugby.

    So we have to stick to what we know, and as you say just tweak it to provide more unpredictability. At the moment we rely on individual brilliance of guys like Wille to spark something different, and to be honest he has not been his old self this year.

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.10.15 11:46:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 65) : I just hope whoever coaches next doesnt try to reinvent the wheel with the Boks and expect them to play exactly like the All Blacks. As for LeRoux- i still think he is a lot more dangerous on the wing where he is allowed to roam a bit

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.10.15 12:00:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 66) : I still think SA franchises need to drastically improve the skill levels over the longer turn.

    JW took a plan that fitted the Sharks’ skill levels and managed to get to the semi’s. The problem was that due to a high error rate in the opposition 22, the players just could not finish off majority of opportunities, and did not score enough tries to get a home semi.

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.10.15 12:12:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : 100% the players skills need to be worked on but at the same time our traditional strengths should not be neglected. There is a very unique blend of player personnel we have here in SA and i dont think we are currently fully utilising it to its potential.

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