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Rugby World Cup 2015: South Africa v Wales


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content on 17 Oct 2015 at 16:06

It’s the big one, the quarter final at Twickenham. Go Boks!!!

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Fourie du Preez (captain), 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Jannie du Plessis, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Willem Alberts, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jan Serfontein.

Wales: 15 Gareth Anscombe, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Tyler Morgan, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 George North, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Gareth Davies, 8 Taulupe Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (captain), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Alun-Wyn Jones, 4 Luke Charteris, 3 Samson Lee, 2 Scott Baldwin, 1 Gethin Jenkins.
Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Paul James, 18 Tom Francis, 19 Bradley Davies, 20 Justin Tipuric, 21 Lloyd Williams, 22. Rhys Priestland, 23. James Hook.



209 Comments

  • Go Bokke!

    Knak die drake.

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.10.15 16:08:59 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 1) : where you watching the game?

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.10.15 16:42:08 by Poisy Reply
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  • If Pollard doesn’t kick better than Biggar we might struggle, especially if discipline isn’t good in our half.

    Let’s also hope the cushy facilities haven’t had an effect.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.10.15 16:48:41 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Go Sharks!!!!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.10.15 16:56:01 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 4) : Remember the good old days when you used to be able to shout that without it referring to what they did after the match, on the bus…

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.10.15 16:58:00 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Beastie shedding tears :cry:

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.10.15 16:59:03 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 6) : Also saw a glassiness in Schalk’s eyes :grin:

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.10.15 17:00:54 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • GO BOKKE!!!!!!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.10.15 17:03:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Great try by Wales!

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.10.15 17:21:24 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • SA 12 – 10 Wales

    25 minutes.

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.10.15 17:27:58 by Ben Reply
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  • Half Time

    South Africa 12 – 13 Wales

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.10.15 17:47:51 by Ben Reply
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  • Drop goal from Biggar just before half time.

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.10.15 17:48:19 by Ben Reply
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  • It’s rwc 2011 all over again – Boks again unable to turn field position into tries.

    We keep losing the ball on the attack, and this time there is no Bryce to blame.

    Boks need to seriously step up….sub Kriel with Serfontein and sub Willie with Lambie. Willie is a special kind of poor today.

    Fliuw also not adding as much impact as required, what with our backline players gainingmore turnovers than him.

    I’m a bit worried and won’t be shocked if we lose thiz game….still, Go Bokke.

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.10.15 17:53:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • If we can stop dropping the ball we’ll win this game. They have played well and we keep dropping the ball and losing possession so we can still win this. Hope Alberts can dominate the collision when he comes on. Game on.

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.10.15 17:57:20 by Hulk Reply

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  • Willie is horrible today… Boks arent looking smart enough to win this.

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.10.15 17:59:32 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Pollard misses a shot at goal.

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.10.15 18:06:25 by Ben Reply
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  • …Our stupidity is now really being exploited…

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.10.15 18:09:49 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Schalk should get the fuck off the field. This is Japan all over again with Schalk hogging all the ball and fucking up the whole time.

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.10.15 18:09:59 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Biggar in turn nails a penalty.

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.10.15 18:10:01 by Ben Reply
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  • SA 12 – 16 Wales

    47 minutes.

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.10.15 18:10:26 by Ben Reply
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  • Wings are not getting the ball because Schalk is a glory boy c……

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.10.15 18:11:15 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Schalk (no pass :roll: ) Burger. Wales turn the ball over on their own 5m line.

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.10.15 18:13:41 by Ben Reply
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  • Pollard slots a drop kick.

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.10.15 18:14:57 by Ben Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 21) : There’s no place for glory boys in this team… HM has coached any free thinking out of them… Therefore, Schalk is doing EXACTLY what his coach has brainwashed him to do :-(

    We are a VERY VERY poorly coached side!

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.10.15 18:15:12 by CS Reply

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  • SA 15 – 16 Wales

    52 minutes.

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.10.15 18:15:25 by Ben Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 24) : I could have told you this a very long time ago.

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.10.15 18:16:19 by Ben Reply
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  • Beast passed!! :shock:

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.10.15 18:16:26 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Wow… Willie LeRoux is having a crap game today :-(

    A better coach would have taken him off 40 mins ago

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.10.15 18:17:45 by CS Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 26) : We haven’t had a good coach for 8 years now have we :-(

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.10.15 18:18:57 by CS Reply

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  • Pollard misses another penalty.

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.10.15 18:19:12 by Ben Reply
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  • I can’t wait for a new Bok era, devoid of this one-dimensional no-brain kak this team thinks is a gameplan.

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.10.15 18:19:32 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 28) : I say move Jesse to 15 and bring on Serfontein.

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.10.15 18:19:53 by Ben Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 29) : True :(

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.10.15 18:20:59 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : good idea that…forgot that Kriel is actually a fullback.

    And please sub Schalk with a real fh. :roll:

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.10.15 18:24:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • South Africa with 78% possession in the second half. What do we have to show for it? :roll:

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.10.15 18:26:06 by Ben Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 34) : Lambie for Schalk then. :twisted:

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.10.15 18:27:14 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 35) : A game plan :?:

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.10.15 18:28:09 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 36) : yup

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.10.15 18:28:31 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Pollard kicks a tough penalty.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.10.15 18:29:22 by Ben Reply
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  • If we win this today it’ll be a steal

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.10.15 18:29:37 by CS Reply

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  • SA 18 – 16 Wales

    62 minutes.

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.10.15 18:29:47 by Ben Reply
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  • and… a penalty straight back to them. Wow we are shite today

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.10.15 18:30:02 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 41) : Not for long

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.10.15 18:30:12 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Biggar replies with a penalty of his own.

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.10.15 18:30:52 by Ben Reply
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  • SA 18 – 19 Wales

    64 minutes.

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.10.15 18:31:18 by Ben Reply
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  • Can anyone name one thing that Flouw brings to the table that Marcell wouldn’t?

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.10.15 18:34:21 by Ben Reply
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  • How absolutely fucking DOGSHIT IDIOTIC is this Bok “attack” :cry: :cry: :cry:

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.10.15 18:35:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Barnes is calling nothing for us

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.10.15 18:36:04 by byron Reply

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  • FdP is as slow as Pienaar today…and thus HM’s deck of cards is being shaken to the core.

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.10.15 18:36:43 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Heyneke rings the changes. :shock:

  • Comment 50, posted at 17.10.15 18:36:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 48) : Ag pleez man! That’s bullshit.

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.10.15 18:37:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 48) : That’s loser mentality. I’m sorry.

  • Comment 52, posted at 17.10.15 18:38:40 by Ben Reply
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  • Wales took Japan’s playbook and copied it word for word….guess that game wasn’t Lambie’s fault after all.

  • Comment 53, posted at 17.10.15 18:39:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • 9 minutes left. SA still trail by 1 point.

  • Comment 54, posted at 17.10.15 18:40:44 by Ben Reply
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  • SA into the Wales 22 now.

  • Comment 55, posted at 17.10.15 18:42:33 by Ben Reply
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  • First time Jannie touches the ball he turns it over :roll:

  • Comment 56, posted at 17.10.15 18:42:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Scrum awarded to the Boks. I see a drop goal coming here.

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.10.15 18:43:04 by Ben Reply
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  • I can’t remember our attacking game looking worse than it is now. Schalk might as well wear the nr 10 jersey because he is first receiver EVERY time. He even kicked down field once.

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.10.15 18:43:24 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • 7 minutes left.

  • Comment 59, posted at 17.10.15 18:44:22 by Ben Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 58) : The studio guests at half time discussed how Biggar was the better game manager. No fucking wonder when Schalk is ours.

  • Comment 60, posted at 17.10.15 18:44:52 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • 6 minutes left.

  • Comment 61, posted at 17.10.15 18:45:26 by Ben Reply
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  • Brilliant…..

  • Comment 62, posted at 17.10.15 18:46:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Brilliant offload Vermeulen!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

  • Comment 63, posted at 17.10.15 18:46:15 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Fourie du Preez scores in the corner after a great offload from Vermeulen.

  • Comment 64, posted at 17.10.15 18:46:28 by Ben Reply
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  • NOT game over

  • Comment 65, posted at 17.10.15 18:46:54 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Pollard missed again….

  • Comment 66, posted at 17.10.15 18:47:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Pollard misses the conversion.

  • Comment 67, posted at 17.10.15 18:47:07 by Ben Reply
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  • SA 23 – 19 Wales

    76 minutes.

  • Comment 68, posted at 17.10.15 18:47:32 by Ben Reply
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  • Lambie gets his token 4 minutes

  • Comment 69, posted at 17.10.15 18:47:47 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Lambie gets 4 minutes. :roll:

  • Comment 70, posted at 17.10.15 18:47:56 by Ben Reply
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  • …but Pollard is so much better than Lambie….Lambie gets himself a full 4 mins.

  • Comment 71, posted at 17.10.15 18:48:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • De Allende has been our best fetcher

  • Comment 72, posted at 17.10.15 18:48:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Dan Biggar will never forgive Gatland for taking him off…

  • Comment 73, posted at 17.10.15 18:49:28 by CS Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 72) : which why I wonder why Flouw is there

  • Comment 74, posted at 17.10.15 18:49:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • 1 minute left. Wales have the ball in their own 22.

  • Comment 75, posted at 17.10.15 18:51:21 by Ben Reply
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  • Time’s up. Wales still attacking. On halfway now.

  • Comment 76, posted at 17.10.15 18:52:27 by Ben Reply
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  • Not deserved but congrats.

  • Comment 77, posted at 17.10.15 18:53:05 by JarsonX Reply
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  • FULL TIME

    SOUTH AFRICA 23 – 19 WALES

  • Comment 78, posted at 17.10.15 18:53:14 by Ben Reply
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  • Let’s hope this wasn’t our final. Great game to watch, irrespective. :cool:

  • Comment 79, posted at 17.10.15 18:53:21 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Damnit that was close….major sigh of releif but tons of work to do.

    Well done to the boys for somehow pulling this game through.

  • Comment 80, posted at 17.10.15 18:54:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • With Schalk starting, next week wil be our last game.

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 74) : We’re not alone in this. Maybe we should ask Jaco Kriel, Kwagga Smith, etc.

  • Comment 82, posted at 17.10.15 18:57:24 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • We played the sam crap as we did against Japan, only difference was 1 individual’s great pass.

  • Comment 83, posted at 17.10.15 18:59:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 83) : Great summary, mate

  • Comment 84, posted at 17.10.15 19:01:34 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Well done boys, we just found a way to win today. I just hope we bring more next week. I feel for Dan Biggar, he was winning that game for Wales and the second he came off we looked like we could win.

  • Comment 85, posted at 17.10.15 19:02:11 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 82) : Flouw is as avarage as Stegman used to be for the Boks.

    We really didn’t look good today, but at least we won’t be going to the semi’s as favourites….we’re definitely the under dog no matter who wins later tonight.

    A depleted Wales did really well to get this close….and could easily have won.

  • Comment 86, posted at 17.10.15 19:03:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 85) : Agree. I felt gutted for the whole Welsh side just by looking at Biggar’s face.

  • Comment 87, posted at 17.10.15 19:04:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • So much for my all north semis sigh

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 86) : I agree! SA has the knack of playing players on historical performance when it’s blatantly obvious that there are equal players currently on form. I’m not talking about chopping and changing. Flouw hasn’t been that great for Bath in ages, yet he walks wears the Bok 6 jersey solely as incumbent. Idiotic.

  • Comment 89, posted at 17.10.15 19:09:36 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Go France!!!!!!

  • Comment 90, posted at 17.10.15 19:19:06 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • We were lucky to win that much.

    The combination of Schalk Burger and Pollard is the worst combo ever. They both should be benched next week. We will not get into the Finals with them.

    Alberts should come in and Lambie to start

  • Comment 91, posted at 17.10.15 19:19:59 by Mocho Reply

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  • I guarantee if we lost this people would be blaming these two.

  • Comment 92, posted at 17.10.15 19:21:55 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 91) : It doesn’t matter. The game plan would just sub Alberts and Lambie.

  • Comment 93, posted at 17.10.15 19:22:40 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • We had 72 % possession at one stage. This reminds of the last world cup in 2011. We did not know what to do with the ball. Nothing has changed in four years.

  • Comment 94, posted at 17.10.15 19:23:11 by Mocho Reply

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  • Oh well… I’ll console myself with the mantra: “A bad win is better than I good loss”

  • Comment 95, posted at 17.10.15 19:27:12 by CS Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 94) : I think we digressed in quality, but we would have been in the 2011 final; but for Bryce Lawrence.

  • Comment 96, posted at 17.10.15 19:27:36 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Jeez at least SABC is saying it as it is. Supersport wear those Heyneke Sunglasses

  • Comment 97, posted at 17.10.15 19:30:03 by Mocho Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 95) : agree there….boy we looked bad – how much of that was down to Wales throwing everything at us, and how much of that was our 1-D attack?

    Certain individuals need changing – starting with Willie and Flouw. Lood also needs to shake this game and get his mojo back.

    Pollard did good enough to deserve another start (though I’d prefer Lambie), Pollard wasn’t the weak link tonight.

    I agree with Ben in moving Kriel to fullback, and Serfontein to 13. Replacing Flouw though, well HM never though of bringing a second open-side flank….

  • Comment 98, posted at 17.10.15 19:33:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 96) : Agree. Flip I think we need Morne Steyn right now. Those kicks count.

  • Comment 99, posted at 17.10.15 19:33:55 by Mocho Reply

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  • What The Fuck?

    How can Schalk be awarded man of the match?

    I thought he was just about our worst player.

  • Comment 100, posted at 17.10.15 19:48:03 by jonnow Reply

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  • @jonnow (Comment 100) : Absolutely mind-bogling. :shock:

  • Comment 101, posted at 17.10.15 20:10:06 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Seems we’re getting what we wanted in 2011.

    Ab’s are on fire, scary when a team plays this well in a quarter final.

    And hows Hansen subbing Crocket for costing them their try…no stopwatch needed.

  • Comment 102, posted at 17.10.15 21:52:04 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • The all blacks look like the real deal, just as much fire as the boks but they actually seem to have direction on what they want to execute

  • Comment 103, posted at 17.10.15 21:57:05 by Poisy Reply
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  • I hope the All Blacks are getting all their trys out of their system tonight… Otherwise we’ve got a lonnngggg 80 minutes ahead of us next weekend :-(

  • Comment 104, posted at 17.10.15 22:42:31 by CS Reply

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  • Full Time

    New Zealand 62 – 13 France

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  • Were the ab’s actually this good, or were the French that bad….from what I could tell this was that other French team, the one that lost to the Argies in ’07, and lost to Tonga in 2011.

  • Comment 106, posted at 17.10.15 22:55:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • …We’re definitely the underdog next weekend, we’ll probably be given 0% chance of going through to the final.

  • Comment 107, posted at 17.10.15 22:56:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I have no idea how we going to beat the ABs next week

  • Comment 108, posted at 18.10.15 00:57:20 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 106) : The french were utterly terrible. Made 95 tackles … missed 24. Not that they were effective anyway. Lost 4 lines. Turned over their possesion in their half on 6 occasions and had clearance kicks charged down on 2 or 3 occasions.

  • Comment 109, posted at 18.10.15 07:33:36 by byron Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 107) : On yesterdays performance?? -0.50% chance.

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  • Watching the all blacks yesterday was very sobering. It’s like watching someone come at you with the lethal injection and there’s nothing you can do about it. The only way we beat them next week is if they have one of those famous all black world cup meltdowns. But I just don’t see this all black squad doing that.

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  • @MysticShark (Comment 108) : Food poisoning it’s worked before :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 112, posted at 18.10.15 08:47:13 by The hound Reply
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  • Wales has been one of the best defensive teams of the World Cuo and looked like turning over Australia last week. This is a good result – let’s enjoy it rather than complain because we don’t like the way it’s been achieved – it’s a World Cup QF. Next week Australia and that game looks like it can go it either way – which given the state after the Japan game is an ok place to be….

  • Comment 113, posted at 18.10.15 09:39:33 by JR Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 109) : In comparison … wales made over 190 tackles yesterday. As slick as nz looked yesterday its difficult to compare the two matches.

  • Comment 114, posted at 18.10.15 09:40:45 by byron Reply

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  • Sorry, it’s the ABs next week! Yeah, they were great but they’re going to be up against a very difficult physical proposition.

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  • @Poisy (Comment 2) : Aah sheesh, only saw your question now – watched it at home with my wife….just the two of us. ;-)

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  • @JR (Comment 113) : Nope…next week we’re playing the AB’s. EDIT: @JR (Comment 115) : and then I saw you corrected yourself.

    We’ll have to draw on whatever got us through the ’95 final, as NZ is looking as imposing as back then.

  • Comment 117, posted at 18.10.15 10:04:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 114) : Agree with you 100%….I’d rather have the Boks shading the quarter final, and be seen as rank underdogs for the semi, rather than acing the quarters by beating an indifferent French side and be overwhelming favourites for the semi.

  • Comment 118, posted at 18.10.15 10:08:33 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • GO ARGIES!!!!

  • Comment 119, posted at 18.10.15 14:06:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Pumas looking very dangerous!!!

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  • Jeepers Pumas! Great start…17-0 after 13 minutes…

  • Comment 121, posted at 18.10.15 14:21:27 by pastorshark Reply
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  • 17-3 after 19 mins…

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  • Make that 20-3…

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  • Make that 20-10…great game this!

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  • Argies need to sub their th….not long before he gets his red card.

  • Comment 125, posted at 18.10.15 15:23:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Ire 20 – 23 Arg btw 55mins.

  • Comment 126, posted at 18.10.15 15:24:39 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Come on Pumas FFS!!!!!

  • Comment 127, posted at 18.10.15 15:26:05 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • We need all SH semi finals :mrgreen:

  • Comment 128, posted at 18.10.15 15:26:47 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • The Aussies may be watching with interest :mrgreen:

  • Comment 129, posted at 18.10.15 15:47:12 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Fuck yes!!!!!!! Pumas!!!

  • Comment 130, posted at 18.10.15 15:49:26 by Poisy Reply
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  • And that’s the ball game. Well done Los Pumas!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

  • Comment 131, posted at 18.10.15 15:49:31 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • What a game…glad we didn’t face the Pumas in the quarters.

    So the hope of the North is now firmly pinned on Scotland. :twisted:

  • Comment 132, posted at 18.10.15 15:51:26 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 132) : lol boy was I wrong about the northern teams
    :mrgreen: but heck I’m happy I was

  • Comment 133, posted at 18.10.15 15:53:53 by Poisy Reply
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  • Don’t think we would be able to live with this Pumas team. Think the Ozzies (foregone conclusion) may rather want to have played Ireland.

  • Comment 134, posted at 18.10.15 15:58:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 134) : We are definitely the weakest of the four semi-finalists.

  • Comment 135, posted at 18.10.15 16:01:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 133) : Same as me thinking the Boks wouldn’t progress past the quarters…very happy I was wrong. :grin:

    @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 135) : That’s a good thing….the Boks are at their best when they are flying under the radar and completely written off.

  • Comment 136, posted at 18.10.15 16:02:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 136) : I agree, but only when our game plan has more than one line, but maybe Schalk at 10 IS the game plan.

    This pisses me off, because we were at our best under Meyer when Willie got involved as first receiver.

    Now neither Schalk nor Willie are performing at their full potential.

  • Comment 137, posted at 18.10.15 16:33:49 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 137) : …and HM can’t adapt. :roll:

  • Comment 138, posted at 18.10.15 16:51:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 138) : Nail. Head.

  • Comment 139, posted at 18.10.15 16:55:22 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Go Scots!!! We need an easy final :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 140, posted at 18.10.15 17:15:43 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 140) : can’t say I’m cheering for an all SH semi….Go the Scots!

  • Comment 141, posted at 18.10.15 17:16:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Ozzies fast asleep…10 – 5 to the Scots.

    19mins. down

    How much will Oz miss Pocock roday?

  • Comment 142, posted at 18.10.15 17:21:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 142) : Plenty! Pocock is worth two Flouws.

  • Comment 143, posted at 18.10.15 17:26:44 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 141) : I’m cheering for the Scots, but another NZ RWC win would be too much. AB vs Scotland no contest.

  • Comment 144, posted at 18.10.15 17:29:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 144) : don’t worry….the Argies will take the Scots any day of the week, and they would really love to take their first AB scalp.

  • Comment 145, posted at 18.10.15 17:36:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 145) : True. I’m assured by the fact that you also don’t give us a chance. :lol:

  • Comment 146, posted at 18.10.15 17:58:50 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 144) : if Scots win then who ever win between Bokke and NZ will win World cup.

  • Comment 147, posted at 18.10.15 18:37:46 by JD Reply
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  • Scotland leads by two points with 7min to go.

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  • Could it be….come on Scotland.

    Rain definitely favours Scotland. Just get out of your half.

  • Comment 149, posted at 18.10.15 18:39:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Scotland scores again – leading 34-32. What a game

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  • And it is pissing down

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  • Scotland 15 does his ballerina act again

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  • Foley penalty has Aus leading by 1

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  • Damnit….so close

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  • very luck for Oz to win this game by only one point!!!!!

  • Comment 155, posted at 18.10.15 18:45:40 by JD Reply
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  • Aus wins due to a bit of a harsh penalty given by Joubert

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  • Scotland not happy….they came close, very close. Man that was disapointing.

  • Comment 157, posted at 18.10.15 18:48:12 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Oz decidedly average without Pocock.

  • Comment 158, posted at 18.10.15 18:49:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Have to feel for Scotland. What do you folks reckon, was the last penalty unnecessary?

  • Comment 159, posted at 18.10.15 18:51:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 159) : I’ve never understood that rule… How is it any different to a forward pass!?

  • Comment 160, posted at 18.10.15 18:53:54 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 160) : No clue, I honestly don’t know the law on this very well.

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 159) : @CS (Comment 160) : I don’t understand why that is a penalty….but ealrier in the game a similar offense was called accidental offside: Scrum?

  • Comment 162, posted at 18.10.15 18:57:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 162) : Yes, I would’ve thought accidental offside… Scrum… Was the fairer way to go :-(

    Poor Scots… F’ing Aussies!!

  • Comment 163, posted at 18.10.15 19:00:03 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 163) : at least we have the rugby championship round 2 next weekend

  • Comment 164, posted at 18.10.15 19:02:58 by durbsguy Reply

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  • Joubert has become Scotland’s Bryce Lawrence. Not his first major fuck up. Remember the Crusaders vs Waratahs final?

  • Comment 165, posted at 18.10.15 19:05:42 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @durbsguy (Comment 164) : True… Unfortunately we all know how we did in the Championship :-(

  • Comment 166, posted at 18.10.15 19:06:22 by CS Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 165) : The thing is… I don’t think it was a fuck up by Joubert… The rule is the rule… I just think it’s a fucked up rule!

  • Comment 167, posted at 18.10.15 19:07:51 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 167) : Agreed, if that’s the law it was the right call, l just don’t really know or understand the law.

  • Comment 168, posted at 18.10.15 19:14:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 167) : The rule is fine. Joubert’s call was the problem.

    The last player to touch the ball before the Scottish player was an Aussie. Since the ball went forward before it touched the said Aussie, it should have been a scrum.

    SO:

    Ball goes forward from Scotsman
    Ball touches Aussie
    Knock on rule
    Ball travels further and caught by Scotsman.
    First offence knock on, because no off side

  • Comment 169, posted at 18.10.15 19:16:05 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 159) : To me a deliberate infringement or dangerous play deserves a penalty, but a mistake should result in a scrum. There was nothing deliberate about the Scot taking the ball coming at him – all instinctive. However technically that is a penalty as per the law. Just not a great way to decide the outcome of a match. However it did seem Joubert earlier ruled a similar incident merely a scrum – so perhaps a bit inconsistent.

  • Comment 170, posted at 18.10.15 19:16:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 169) : Law 11.3 Being put onside by opponents

    (c) Intentionally touches ball. When an opponent intentionally touches the ball but does not catch it, the offside player is put onside.

    Video: https://youtu.be/6Jx1I_tRXNU?t=1044

    Phipps didn’t intentionally touch or play the ball therefore the Scotland player who caught the ball was never onside

  • Comment 171, posted at 18.10.15 19:59:22 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 171) : Thanks for getting the law sorted. This is one of my main gripes with rugby as an international sport.

    This means that Albert’s weird try against Ireland (last November?) was also no try, because the Irish player unintentionally put him onside by getting the ball kicked into him.

  • Comment 172, posted at 18.10.15 20:45:29 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 160) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 162) : @CS (Comment 163) : @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 165) : it’s actually very easy gents, if you’re in front of the ball carrier you lose all rights to play the ball just like with a kick you’re not allowed to play the ball! If the ball strikes you it is accidental but if you deliberately play the ball it is a penalty (so the first one Joubert got wrong as that also should have been a penalty!!!).
    Law is there to ensure the other team has a chance to play the ball and possibly get advantage from your teams mistake.

  • Comment 173, posted at 18.10.15 20:57:00 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 173) : Easy on paper… Maybe a bit unrealistic in practise?

    In realtime it’s often impossible to judge who the ball bounced off… Most times those penalties are given to guys who acted instinctually without time to even see where the ball came from… Had it bounced off an Aussie, the Scotsman would’ve acted quickly, secured the ball and secured the game… Instead it bounced off the shoulder of his own player (by centimetres), and now his “instinct” and quick actions cost his team the game…

    Rules are rules… I just think it’s a sucky rule when there’s no malicious intent and it happens in a millisecond.

    Benefit of hindsight… Scotland should’ve thrown to the front of the line out, much less risky in pouring rain, secured the ball… Held onto it for 30 seconds… Kicked it out, victory for Scotland. They played out of their skins for 79 minutes and lost their composure in the last 60 seconds.

  • Comment 174, posted at 18.10.15 21:12:31 by CS Reply

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  • Well look on the bright side gents atleast he won’t ref a bok game lol

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 172) : vs England 2012

    Ball spillt loose, England player kicked it against JPP and it bounced forward. At that point Alberts was offsides but an England player tried to catch it and knocked in back infield where Alberts collected and scored. Perfectly legal :)

    Video: https://youtu.be/v7Tmhz2qtjQ

  • Comment 176, posted at 18.10.15 21:44:41 by Baylion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 173) : Well, the laws or interpretations thereof are ambiguous then. How can it be legal for all players in front of a kicker to be placed on side by virtue of an opposition player’s contact with the ball, but when it’s knock then not?

  • Comment 177, posted at 18.10.15 21:45:27 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 175) : That all NH semis forecast went South rather swiftly, huh? (I’m not really rubbing it in, I just wanted to make my stupid ‘went South’ joke)

  • Comment 178, posted at 18.10.15 21:45:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 176) : That’s the one! I remember everyone got bamboozled. :grin:

  • Comment 179, posted at 18.10.15 21:46:52 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 179) : Important aspect of that call was that JPP didn’t kick the ball, it bounced off him. If he had kicked it Alberts would have had to fall back outside the 10m radius before continuing.

  • Comment 180, posted at 18.10.15 22:15:59 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 180) : It was essentially a charged down kick by JPP, as soon as a kick is immediately touched, everyone is onside, on both teams.

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 181) : From The Rugby Ref re Law 11:

    The second paragraph is the one we need to look at. “A player is offside if he is in front of a team-mate who last played the ball”. So when the charge-down occurs, any team mates of the charger, who were in front of him when he charged-down the ball, are offside and liable to penalty if they take part in the game.

    There is a common misconception that a charge own put everyone onside, in fact it only puts all the kickers team onside. Any of the kickers team who are in front of the kicker are offside at the time of the kick, but a charge-down puts them onside.

  • Comment 182, posted at 19.10.15 05:42:30 by Baylion Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 178) : ofcz :mrgreen: well I’m happy I was wrong I should have written off the sharks in the same manner

  • Comment 183, posted at 19.10.15 05:55:39 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 183) : Well not that far off with regards to boks. Could have gone either way. You were almost right about scotland and Aus. A game which predicted to be one sided for Australia. So not too bad you just got the winners wrong.

  • Comment 184, posted at 19.10.15 07:35:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 184) : lol its like high school math I got the working right but not the answer so I get part points :razz:

  • Comment 185, posted at 19.10.15 07:55:23 by Poisy Reply
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  • I see old Craig is being slated in the press for immediately leaving the field without shaking hands with the players.

  • Comment 186, posted at 19.10.15 08:12:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • So just my thoughts…Boks won which is what matters most…by 1 or 50 ina QF doesnt matter. Boks do look very unfit- which is what Meyer has said about the Bok players for a while now. All Blacks did look very good- but French also didnt offer that much fight- esp after that charge down and Michalak going off. Argies full credit for their win- those raving about Joe Schmidt the Ireland game plan was as bland as the Boks. Ozzies lucky to get the win at the end, possibly a ref error but the Scotsman also had enough time to leave he ball alone. late in the game he didnt want to give up possession and well ya. If Ozzies just remembered to defend it wouldnt have been that close. So its down to the mini Rugby Championship to decide the RWC

  • Comment 187, posted at 19.10.15 08:20:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 187) : The Argies have managed to transform from a team that relied on a strong set piece and a kicking game to one that can now score tries even against a strong defense.

  • Comment 188, posted at 19.10.15 08:34:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 187) : “mini rugby championship”?

    No no no, we’ll refer to it as thus:

    Rugby Championship – Sudden Death :cool:

  • Comment 189, posted at 19.10.15 08:35:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 188) : The Argies looked like they would self implode at one point in the 2nd half. They then subbed their captain and a few other subs and they seemed to get composure back and Ireland got dominated towards the end. The Irish attack looked like the Boks did in Durban, just food for thought. @FireTheLooser (Comment 189) : Well dont we always play 2 rounds of the Rugby Championship? This years comp was just a bit delayed

  • Comment 190, posted at 19.10.15 08:44:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 189) : I wonder if italy and scotland should make they own competition with countries like georgia and romania and maybe even the eagles of the u.s and leave the 6 nations as the 4 nations and then the top 2 teams from 4 nations and rugby champs join they top 2 and maybe japan and fiji aswell at end of the year tour in play offs like quarter finals for a world league knockout title

  • Comment 191, posted at 19.10.15 08:45:31 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 191) : That would be an exciting twist on the current EOYT. It will also go great lengths in expanding rugby to those intermediate nations.

  • Comment 192, posted at 19.10.15 08:50:58 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I am constantly amazed at the lack of respect the rugby world has for Argentina,this is their second WC semi final,Ireland have never made one.
    The Argies whipped the Irish arses,and I reckon they would have beaten Australia and South Africa on the day.
    For a team that only recently have been included in Top competitive international rugby they punch way above their weight.
    This is a country where rugby is a minor sport kinda like hockey in South Africa

  • Comment 193, posted at 19.10.15 08:54:49 by The hound Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 192) : exactly its about strength vs strength

    4nations
    England
    Ireland
    Wales
    France

    Rugby champs
    New zealand
    Australia
    South africa
    Argentina

    New comp?
    Italy
    Scotland
    Georgia
    Romania
    Usa

    Another comp
    Japan
    Samoa
    Fiji
    Tonga

    Everyone plays home and away and winner and runner up go to EOYT playoffs

    Curtain raisers for each match under 20 national teams

  • Comment 194, posted at 19.10.15 08:57:30 by Poisy Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 193) : scary to think if they took it as seriously as south africans do how strong they would be, kinda like the states.

  • Comment 195, posted at 19.10.15 08:59:20 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 195) : Reckon old Izak van Heerden must be smiling up in heaven after that game.I think these Argies could go all the way.

  • Comment 196, posted at 19.10.15 09:04:22 by The hound Reply
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  • Argies deserve respect especially when you consider their team is dispersed fir most of the year. They don’t have curry cups and super rugby to cultivate their game at club level and build at least some forms of continuity. So congrats to them once again pulling themselves up to the big leagues.

  • Comment 197, posted at 19.10.15 09:23:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • As for Australia. The call was correct but it would have been awesome payback for what Bruce Lawrence did to us. Even if the ref just gave them scrum instead of penalty.

  • Comment 198, posted at 19.10.15 09:25:16 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 197) : I reckon our second match in next year’s SuperWhatever is going to be tough encounter. We better not emulate the Boks at Kingspark this year.

  • Comment 199, posted at 19.10.15 09:30:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 199) : We could still play them here in the final or the losers final.

  • Comment 200, posted at 19.10.15 09:40:15 by The hound Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 189) : I would like to second and third that name :cool:

  • Comment 201, posted at 19.10.15 10:19:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 194) : I like that a lot….now to get world rugby to see the $$$ in that concept of yours, and rugby will have a much needed and refreshing semi-make-over.

  • Comment 202, posted at 19.10.15 11:18:58 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 193) : I spoke to an Argentinian a few years ago, apparently rugby is more a sport played by the rich over there – with soccer being the poor man’s sport.

    But I have a feeling that rugby shares in Argentina would have significantly gone up over the past 12 – 15 months.

    Unlike Italy in the 6 nations, the Argies have grabbed their opportunity with both hands….and they are super entertaining.

  • Comment 203, posted at 19.10.15 11:22:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 82) : dont think lions players creativity is allowed in the bok bash game plan

  • Comment 204, posted at 19.10.15 11:23:10 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 203) : I think its played at the Universitys like in Scotland,but I think in places like Tucoman its very much a farmers game.
    We could do a lot worse than scout a few youngsters from there,remember what a strong son of a bitch that Mendes was a few years ago.They produce exceptional front rows,and front row coaches,Noreiaga has totally revitalised the Aussie scrum.

  • Comment 205, posted at 19.10.15 11:56:18 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 205) : That fella single handedly created an Australian pack…before him, they were only interested in ways to collapse the scrum and pinning it on the opposition. :roll:

  • Comment 206, posted at 19.10.15 12:11:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Am I crazy for thinking that the final penalty of the Aussie-Scotland game was a penalty (I was supporting Scotland but my instant reaction was penalty and I haven’t seen anything which shows that was definitely wrong) – and that the yellow card was harsh but not out of line with some of the stuff we see in Super Rugby – if you go with one hand and you don’t get it – you may have a problem…

  • Comment 207, posted at 19.10.15 12:30:33 by JR Reply

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  • @JR (Comment 207) : Some say the penalty was harsh. My take is that yes the scottish guy knocked it forward, if the scottish prop hadnt caught it then Aussies would have got the ball and attacking the retreating scotland in their 22m. So the prop caught the ball to prevent aussie possession therefore rightly a penalty and not just accidental. there was enough time for him to avoid catching it.

  • Comment 208, posted at 19.10.15 12:55:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 205) : Noriega – Ledesema maybe?

  • Comment 209, posted at 19.10.15 13:24:41 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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