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More players…going to the Kings???


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content, Super Rugby on 17 Nov 2015 at 12:21
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Hi Sharks fans. Yes, you read that correctly. According to a report on News24, the following players are already at the Kings and enjoyed their first training session:

SP Marais, James Hiltebrand, Jurgen Visser, Stefan Watermeyer, JC Roos, Caylib Oosthuizen, Mark Richards, Louis Fouche and Carel Greef

Now there are some familiar names there and I’m sure a surprise or two.

HOWEVER, to temper this good news, the Kings have announced that Luther Obi and Sylvian Mahuza have announced that they will be leaving the Kings.

With more twists and turns than a soap opera I guess we’ll just have to sit back and see what happens next. Anybody care to hazard a guess as to the next event in ‘The Kings Saga’? My money would be on Cheeky Watson returning from Australia without the massive sponsorship he claimed was a done deal.



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  • Why on earth would you want to join a team that has players leaving because they didn’t get paid? Seems very dodgy to me.

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.11.15 12:29:20 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Some interesting players there. I wonder if they signed Visser as a flyhalf as apparently thats his preferred option…

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.11.15 12:31:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Must have some faith in the Kings then? I heard Visser might have gone to France, but seeing as he’s getting married soon and the wife’s family is still around he decided to go to the kings.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.11.15 12:32:06 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : Roos and Fouche both flyhalves and talks of Coleman also joining, so I doubt Visser will be in the 10 jacket

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.11.15 13:07:46 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • What I find dodgy is that the province/franchise identified by the forces thst be as the development hub of rugby in SA must seek financial “support” in Auatralia….
    Cheeky cant be sacked as no institution, department or body has supported Kings OFFICIALLY

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.11.15 13:11:47 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 4) : Yeh true. Visser and SP Marais will prob fight for the 15. Interesting if Coleman moves there- WP will have to rely on their kids then.

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.11.15 13:17:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : maybe they signed before this whole thing happened or they received signing bonus?!?! Just makes no sense to sign more players if you can’t even pay the ones you have!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.11.15 13:35:21 by JD Reply
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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 5) : Kings were supported by SARU…Kings and Cheetahs received financial assistance to kick start (with Kings receiving the higher amount)….there was still a story in the media a year or so ago if I remember it correctly where other small unions were complaining that the Kings were still receiving funds…
    At some point you need to be able to stand on your own feet…
    Kings also made millions selling their Super rugby rights to Sharks…and again there was talks that they want to sell their rights to a French club…
    Also their stadium was built for them….and they got shares in the stadium sharing the profits…
    More than enough money and assistance to have been a force in rugby…but unless they make changes in the Snr management team I doubt they will ever be…

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.11.15 13:57:20 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Maybe they struck a deal with h the frenchie after all? Or maybe contracts were signed before this debacle?

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.11.15 14:07:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : I think Roos as flyhalf…As for Mark Richards I think he is still concussed and doesn’t know about the kings financial troubles?

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.11.15 14:11:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Please tell me how Watson expects to get sponsorship from Australia. The western force didn’t even have a main sponsor and went with a whole bunch of small ones to make do. The brumbies only got a sponsor a few days before the tournament started this year. But the Kings, a foreign team who play the vast majority of their matches at 3am in Australia are gonna get a sponsor..right. Enjoy your holiday cheeky and take it easy on the VB’s

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.11.15 14:20:51 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 10) : Yeh Roos is a flyhalf…big boy…could prob do well at 12 but i see they have Watermeyer too. I thin you will see SP Marais on the wing with Visser at 15.

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.11.15 14:21:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • The food vouchers can’t be that bad after all :twisted:

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.11.15 14:40:33 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I would have loved if the Sharks rather got Watermeyer. I really enjoy the way he plays at 12 and 13. I can easily see him slotting in outside Andre/Heimar or inside Jordaan/Sithole.

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.11.15 14:41:52 by Letgo Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 13) : :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.11.15 14:41:53 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 8) : What do you expect when your union is run by someone cheeky?

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.11.15 14:43:14 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 14) : I like the sound of that. Watermeyer has matured a lot as a player since he joined the Pumas.

    I just get this horrible feeling that Cheeky’s House of Cards is going to come crashing down around his ears.

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.11.15 14:50:55 by StevieS Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 10) : must say I really like Mark as a youngster he showed lots of potential, maybe by January he will also be available due to non payment of salaries!?!?!?! :twisted:

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.11.15 14:51:20 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 18) : That’s what I’m expecting. Him and a whole lot of others.

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.11.15 14:59:32 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 14) : yes sharks seem thin at 13.they have brought 3 centres in (2 of whom i understand play at 12).

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.11.15 15:00:06 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 18) : james hiltebrand ,the hooker?im trying to remember how he played in superrugby.

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.11.15 15:02:55 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : if coleman moves,does that mean boshoff is heading to the cape?or the stormers close to signing a flyhalf?

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.11.15 15:07:08 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 17) : I reckon that guy is so thick (skinned) he wont even know it when it happens.

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.11.15 15:10:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : They did say they werent looking to sign anyone so guess will see…

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.11.15 15:19:34 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 23) : Lol he’d be at the press conference after all the team have left:

    “We may have lost some players, but I really feel that this is the perfect opportunity for the Grey High 1st XV to step up in the place of those senior Kings players who have left and to show the world what they’re made of in what is the premier provincial competition of the world.

    We here at the Kings pride ourselves on giving opportunities to deserving young players.”

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.11.15 15:21:52 by StevieS Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : Boshoff is confirmed with the lions for next year atleast

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.11.15 15:39:11 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : If you hear anything PLEASE let me know. Stormers are ridiculously shy a quality flyhalf

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.11.15 15:42:30 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 27) : Sorry. Boshoff staying with the lions

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.11.15 15:43:54 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 28) : Glad to hear it, not his biggest fan

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.11.15 15:49:29 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 29) : @Zibbie (Comment 28) : elton jantjes? :D

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.11.15 15:51:27 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 30) : Because that worked out so well the last time :lol:

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.11.15 15:53:37 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 31) : dont know why it didnt ??maybe ej coached by ej will work.

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.11.15 15:55:04 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 32) : Ja look that was a square peg round hole vibe, you cant expect Elton to thrive in a defence oriented team. He took a lot of undeserved flack for spell

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.11.15 15:58:06 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 27) : id like to have either or both ew viljoen and daniel du plessis down in durban training with the sharks.which of those two would you least like to see go?

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.11.15 16:00:14 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 34) : You guys have already reportadly stolen Ruan Botha, please leave us(me) alone!

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.11.15 16:01:12 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 35) : :D im hunting wilco louw and/or frans van wyk too! Just kidding,but there is a lot (too much?) of talent down in the cape to keep satisfied with re: gametime imo.

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.11.15 16:07:28 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 35) : I hope we hear something official regarding that, don’t like the uncertainty.

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.11.15 16:07:30 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 37) : @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 35) : yes im also waiting for an official announcement.
    Giant does seem to be on his way to dbn [email protected] said he changed his fb working at from pumas to sharks.

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.11.15 16:10:06 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 38) : really? Interesting, I am sure I read rob saying somewhere that he wouldn’t be?

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.11.15 16:11:59 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 37) : might the sharks just be waiting to announce both giant and ruan botha at the same time?

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.11.15 16:12:47 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 34) : :lol: don’t you wish it actually worked that way? :lol:

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.11.15 16:18:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 39) : yes i remember reading the same .went to have a look at giant’s fb (after revolvercelot’s comment) and it does say sharks.

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.11.15 16:18:50 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 41) : :D

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.11.15 16:19:59 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • In a way Giant should be a no-brainer, if he is available, he is certainly better than our other 4 options, and has a year of Sharks rugby under his belt. I have this feeling though that he will have difficulty holding up for the entire season and will need to be rested, so having the option of Lewies at 4 with Botha at 5 would be really nice to have.

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.11.15 16:23:46 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Lewies is so versatile, playing either 4 or 5, and calling the lineout, so I really can’t wait to see him back to full health, and playing like he did a couple of years ago. He is just the kind of hard working player we need in the second row, and he has some pace too.

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.11.15 16:26:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : dont know if you counted him in,but also jacques potgieter as 4-lock option.

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.11.15 16:27:35 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 45) : yes re: lewies ive had this crazy idea of playing him at no8!
    Sharks need to manage him carefully though.

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.11.15 16:31:03 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 46) : I mentioned him very early on, and a lot of people here had a problem with him at 4 and really wanted him to be at 7. I liked the idea of him at 4 because it allowed us the option to really utilize the Du Preez twins at 7. It will be interesting to see.

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.11.15 16:31:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 48) : to be honest,i prefer a 2m plus lock at 4 and 5.but i can come around to the thinking of using 6’4 players at 4-lock.potgieter and giant(if so) are the sharks only real options there.if botha comes,then lewies can also be looked at to play there.

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.11.15 16:35:24 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 47) : I like the idea, but here is the thing, how much does Van der Walt have the 8 jersey locked up? You have to figure Marcel at 6, and with him at 8, and Potgieter at 7 there is little room for the twins or Lewies except on the bench. I like the idea of having Lewies as a very mobile lock with an incredibly high workrate. We have plenty loosies don’t you think?

  • Comment 50, posted at 17.11.15 16:37:23 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) : yes we do have plenty of loosies.and at no8 there is van der walt (who i rate),mthembu and bothma.
    For some reason keep thinking lewies could be a taller whiteley :D

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.11.15 17:06:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • With our locking crisis….I would get Sykes as a stop gap or even Bakkies for a year. Either of those two would add further grunt to our tight five. Add Chilli there and problem solved. We need a long term solution there though. Some young with lots of potential.

  • Comment 52, posted at 17.11.15 17:07:04 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 51) : im sure one of the du preez twins can also cover at no8?

  • Comment 53, posted at 17.11.15 17:08:55 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 52) : yes,bakkies..i was wondering just when someone was going to throw his name into the mix.might he just be that competitive edge a struggling pack needs?someone who does not like losing the close-combat exchanges amongst the forwards?wont give us 60 mins game after game,like he did when at the bulls.but an honest fiery 40min or even 50min? 2games on and one game off?and unlike jim hamilton,he is free (retired).he is someone who would appeal to robert du preez.

  • Comment 54, posted at 17.11.15 17:14:58 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 52) : id play hyron andrews at 5 if i knew bakkies was at 4 :D

  • Comment 55, posted at 17.11.15 17:18:06 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 53) : sias koen is also a no8 (from the u21s).

  • Comment 56, posted at 17.11.15 17:30:08 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • IF we are to secure Botha, a locking pair of Lewies at 4 and Botha at 5 would be a wonderful combination to develop, with Giant covering off the bench. Lewies’ ability to fill both the 4 and 5 roles helps a lot. If this trio stays injury free, and with Potgieter, Oosthuizen, and even Marco filling in when needed, our lock stocks (and barrels :mrgreen: ) are not so bad, no?

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.11.15 19:15:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 57) : Although I would welcome Sykes back home with open arms. :cool:

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.11.15 19:16:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 53) : I would be very surprised if the Sharks don’t have vd Walt pencilled in as their starting 8, fitness permitting. Renaldo Bothma, for ll his bustling runs, isn’t in the same league as vd Walt.

  • Comment 59, posted at 17.11.15 19:25:56 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 57) : sounds like wentzel and some other players have been released.

  • Comment 60, posted at 17.11.15 19:28:59 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 59) : good signing for the sharks.captain?him or claassens?

  • Comment 61, posted at 17.11.15 19:30:13 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 60) : I suppose it all depends on injuries. We do have 5 solid players that can get the work done in the second row. With Giant and Potgieter, you know what you are getting, I have grave concerns with Oosthuizen’s consistency though. I hope that is more a result of him being moved around between 4 and 7.

  • Comment 62, posted at 17.11.15 19:31:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 40) : no, it’s not Giant.

  • Comment 63, posted at 17.11.15 19:32:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 55) : Hyron is apparently 2.03m now….

  • Comment 64, posted at 17.11.15 19:33:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 59) : I think Bothma is better at 7 than 8. Agreed Van der Walt at 8 with Bothma and Potgieter sharing duty at 7, twins benching.

  • Comment 65, posted at 17.11.15 19:34:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) : hhhmmmm..

  • Comment 66, posted at 17.11.15 19:37:29 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) : then he might be able to look after bakkies :D whats a centimetre here or there in the pr dept ?still weighing 106kg ?

  • Comment 67, posted at 17.11.15 19:45:17 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • What kind of assistance will SARU provide the Kings? Purely monetary so that they can sign new players or some technical assistance too?

    Luke’s contract (R3m+?) can be better spent on several young players

    Have the Sunwolves announced a squad yet btw?

  • Comment 68, posted at 17.11.15 19:49:58 by gatewayshark Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : These contacts were all finalised well before the crap really hit the fan…

  • Comment 69, posted at 17.11.15 20:37:21 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 4) : Yup…

  • Comment 70, posted at 17.11.15 20:38:13 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 11) : That is exactly what I was thinking…

  • Comment 71, posted at 17.11.15 20:40:57 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 19) : I can’t see it going that pear shaped…SARU can’t afford to let it happen…

  • Comment 72, posted at 17.11.15 20:43:20 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 21) : He played less that a handful of games for the Force? I doubt whether even the Force season ticket holders remember…

  • Comment 73, posted at 17.11.15 20:44:51 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 27) : I guess that means we’re not getting Robert du Preez back?

  • Comment 74, posted at 17.11.15 20:47:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 35) : One for you (PSdT) and one for me (Botha)… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 17.11.15 20:48:55 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 36) : No, you’re not kidding…Wilco Louw would be a nice signing…

  • Comment 76, posted at 17.11.15 20:49:56 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 40) : It would be good news…

  • Comment 77, posted at 17.11.15 20:51:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 48) : Potgieter never let the Tahs down at 4…so he is a real option there…

  • Comment 78, posted at 17.11.15 20:52:45 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 74) : well,not for the 2016 season,i guess.

  • Comment 79, posted at 17.11.15 20:52:57 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) : We do…and I reckon the twins will (and definitely should) get a fair amount of game time in 2016. I think we’re sitting pretty there. I am still absolutely stoked that we re-signed Marcell…and that the Stormers didn’t get him!

  • Comment 80, posted at 17.11.15 20:55:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 52) : Absolutely agree…

  • Comment 81, posted at 17.11.15 20:56:09 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 57) : :mrgreen: Yup…locks looking much better. I just hope Lewies can put in an injury free season…

  • Comment 82, posted at 17.11.15 20:58:53 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 59) : Agreed…van der Walt is at the front of the queue for 8…

  • Comment 83, posted at 17.11.15 21:00:25 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) : He has plenty of potential…I am excited about his future…

  • Comment 84, posted at 17.11.15 21:02:27 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 79) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 85, posted at 17.11.15 21:02:57 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 66) : Uanivi?

  • Comment 86, posted at 17.11.15 21:04:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 83) : ja really glad Sharks eventually signed him!!! #gottolovethegingerninja

  • Comment 87, posted at 17.11.15 23:39:25 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 86) :i will be happy if it is uanivi.going to be a long wait till thursday morning :D

  • Comment 88, posted at 18.11.15 06:38:10 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 86) : tjiuee uanivi.how do you pronounce his first name?

  • Comment 89, posted at 18.11.15 06:52:35 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 88) : ja boet really long days ahead waiting for the official announcement!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 90, posted at 18.11.15 07:38:25 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 90) : @pastorshark (Comment 86) : my guess is we should try and figure out how to pronounce tijuee :D

  • Comment 91, posted at 18.11.15 07:54:21 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan could not have dropped a bigger hint :D

  • Comment 92, posted at 18.11.15 07:56:06 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Finally somebody offered money for Fouche and Visser. Or did the Bulls offer the money? :-)

  • Comment 93, posted at 18.11.15 09:03:37 by Blue Centurion Reply

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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 93) : The Kings offered food vouchers…

  • Comment 94, posted at 18.11.15 09:15:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 91) : let us know as soon as you figured it out!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 95, posted at 18.11.15 10:10:22 by JD Reply
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  • @Blue Centurion (Comment 93) : @SheldonK (Comment 94) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 96, posted at 18.11.15 12:25:39 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 89) : Kind of like the abbreviation of Chubaka on Star Wars when his mate Han Solo refers to him…Chewie… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 97, posted at 18.11.15 12:28:32 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 97) : i wasnt even close! :D

  • Comment 98, posted at 18.11.15 12:55:29 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 95) : @robdylan helped me out :D

  • Comment 99, posted at 18.11.15 12:56:35 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 99) : let me help you: “…. young Namibian lock Tjiuee (pronounced “CHOO-way”) Uanivi. The 2.00m tall 24-year-old joins the sharks from Brive in France…..” :lol:

  • Comment 100, posted at 18.11.15 13:07:29 by JD Reply
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