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SARU steps in to take over Kings


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :EP Kings, In the news, Super Rugby on 17 Nov 2015 at 17:07
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The South African rugby Union will assume control of the Kings franchise in super Rugby next year, as per a media release issued moments ago:

SARU steps in to assist the Southern Kings Super Rugby franchise

The South African Rugby Union (SARU) on Tuesday agreed to assist the Eastern Province Rugby Union by taking control of the Southern Kings franchise in Vodacom Super Rugby.

The action followed through a decision taken by the Executive Council of SARU some weeks ago to step into the Kings’ affairs if certain expectations were not realised. The decision was actioned as a result of the on-going cash flow problems at the Union after the president of EP, Mr Cheeky Watson, contacted Mr Oregan Hoskins, the president of SARU, to ask him to assist.

“We gave the Kings as long as possible to resolve their issues through their own efforts but the point had been reached where they could wait no longer,” said Mr Oregan Hoskins, president of SARU.

“It is a decision we have had to take reluctantly but it is now 102 days until Vodacom Super Rugby moves into a new era with new teams and new nations taking part and we collectively agreed we could not allow South Africa’s new entrant to be under-prepared.”

Jurie Roux, CEO of SARU, said that the organisation had undertaken some contingency planning in the event of SARU being required to take control and those plans would now be put into operation.

“We have already had conversations around off-field and on-field preparations but I don’t want to mislead anyone, there is still much to do,” said Roux.

“For the moment we will be working behind the scenes to sort out the various issues that we need to address. In the meantime we would thank the rugby fans of Port Elizabeth and the Eastern Cape for their patience and to have just a little more while we finalise those plans.

“I hope that we will be able to reveal the new management processes of the Kings and other details in a week or two. For the moment, our focus is on sorting out the finances and identifying the playing and coaching needs for Vodacom Super Rugby participation.”

The Southern Kings kick off their Vodacom Super Rugby campaign with a home match against the Cell C Sharks at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium on 27 February 2016.



68 Comments

  • This should result in Cheeky being fired? Somehow I doubt that will happen.

    SARU don’t want to show that they have failed due to ineptitude and greed so now they will literally pay for it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.11.15 17:10:22 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : he must be on very shaky ground

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.11.15 17:26:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • This whole mess has alienated Cheeky from the entire community based on reactions locally. His goodwill seems to be used up. Very little time to get things done and it looks like a long season ahead

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.11.15 17:55:19 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : @robdylan (Comment 2) : @Kabouter (Comment 3) : ja he should be fired and all that but seems as if he has more lives than the cast of Cats!!!!
    As usual SARU is to late, they should have stepped in before the players left!!!!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.11.15 18:28:09 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : of topic did you see the article on Supersport with regards to coaching structure at the Sharks? It also mentioned that up to 10 players (including Marco) has been informed that they will be cut from the team, it also states that Ruan Botha has joined the Sharks. Are we in for one of the Sharks “best kept secret fiascos” or is this only speculation and sensationalism?

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.11.15 18:44:27 by JD Reply
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  • How is the president of a union elected/appointed? Surely through a system of voting by board members. Or does SARU as Big Brother have extensive influence?

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.11.15 18:48:05 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • Disgraceful. Eastern Province has a long and proud history. Australia managed to create two respectable SR franchises from scratch in regions where rugby union is a distant 3rd in popularity.

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.11.15 19:18:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 6) : SARU has nothing to do with the process to elect a union president. Bet they wish they did, sometimes

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.11.15 19:20:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 5) : no, that story is true. I’ve been sitting on it for some time, but seems Rich doesn’t need to abide by the same rules.

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.11.15 19:21:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 5) : Good that Ruan Botha is there, and surely it’s no surprise that Wentzel is cut, he must be almost as old as Matfield :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.11.15 19:24:21 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 5) : who are the ten players?

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.11.15 19:32:26 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 5) : What do you think the Sharks squad will look like per position?

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.11.15 19:44:04 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 11) : Wentzel was mentioned

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.11.15 19:44:50 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • Judging by Marco’s recent tweet, I think Lionel, Waylon and Jaco van Tonder have also been told that they are surplus to requirements.

    Bit of a disservice to Marco I think.

    I wasn’t his greatest fan (good at lineouts and captaincy and average at everything else tbh), but he did lead us through what was a very trying Super and Currie Cup season.

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.11.15 19:45:17 by gatewayshark Reply

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  • @gatewayshark (Comment 14) : Ag hell. Dumping Marco? The one guy that tried his guts out? That’s a shit call.

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.11.15 20:00:38 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Surely not the part about Captain Planet!?

    Hoping that it’s a erroneous assumption based solely on a tweet from Marco a couple days ago.

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.11.15 20:21:37 by gregkaos Reply
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  • So SARU…I suppose it is better to slam the stable door shut after half a dozen or so horses have bolted than not to slam it at all. I would just have thought the prudent thing to do would have been to firmly close that door a few weeks ago when the horses were starting to get a bit skittish…

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.11.15 20:26:46 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I think you guys need to wait and see (if you ever do) how it was done. In my opinion going to a player and saying “I am sorry but we feel you are not good enough for the squad” is perfectly reasonable in professional sport, especially when the guy is 90 years old. :D

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.11.15 20:27:26 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 16) : I think Marco will go…and though I appreciate his efforts last season, I think it is the right call…

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.11.15 20:28:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Rules are made to be broken ;) .

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.11.15 20:28:33 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 19) : Exactly, he has contributed a lot and he can rest happy knowing that. He is getting on in years and now is the time to let go. I think it’s the same for Odwa.

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.11.15 20:29:27 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 18) : Agreed. Marco is too weak in the tight stuff for Super Rugby. He put in a sterling effort last year, but we were always going to look to strengthen this area and, when we did he had to be let go…

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.11.15 20:29:49 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 21) : Yup…

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.11.15 20:30:13 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @gatewayshark (Comment 14) : And I think it’s a good call on Cronje and Murray too. Van Tonder has been unlucky at the Sharks…but I reckon it is also the right call…

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.11.15 20:31:45 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I for one am happy to see the Sharks make these sorts of calls…

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.11.15 20:32:18 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Telling a player they are not good enough is always going to be tough, but as a professional sports team you can not have weak links, and it’s the the right thing to do.

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.11.15 20:34:20 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 17) : luther obi is going to be wasted at the bulls (if the talk from the bulls are anything to go by).would have been a starter at the kings.

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.11.15 20:38:05 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 26) : @pastorshark (Comment 25) :just glad it is not me who must make those calls,ie go to the player and tell him.we do not know the circumstances some players are in.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.11.15 20:40:27 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : ja boet must be bad knowing stuff but not being allowed to say something and then someone else just spill it all!!!
    Can’t wait to hear everything on Thursday!!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.11.15 23:19:25 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 11) : @KingCheetah (Comment 12) : really don’t know who the players are, only know what the article said and Marco is specifically named as one of the players that was cut.
    As for how the squad will look like think things may change a bit from now to the start of the season as it looks like management might have been busy signing new players.

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.11.15 23:25:46 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 25) : @Seth101 (Comment 26) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 28) : must agree I’m glad I do not have to do it!! Also agree it must be done just hope they picked the correct players to cut so will reserve judgment until we have the full list!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.11.15 23:31:32 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 31) : Hi there all, I know this is off the topic but just saw an article that Jonah Lomu passed away this morning, very sad day for new Zealand and for world rugby

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.11.15 04:40:46 by Henkb Reply
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  • The Kings major issue is a lack of sponsorship (beside all the backroom issues), and the biggest hindrance to any potential sponsors is Cheeky Watson.

    So, in essence, unless Cheeky is fired, the Kings will be the permanent orphan of SARU.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.11.15 05:58:00 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 32) : tragic…RIP…I was at the WC semi in 1995 when he literally ran over the Poms….will never forget him…

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.11.15 06:31:28 by grant10 Reply

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  • Wasn’t marco originally brought to the sharks to be a player with the focus on becoming a lineout coach? Any word on if he will stay on on some capacity? He is a bit old,but he really gave it his all the last 2 years. Right call to let him go, but we really needed him the last 2 seasons.

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.11.15 06:34:34 by HeinF Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : Yup…at the bulls there is already a queue and he will not be at the front of it…

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.11.15 06:47:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @HeinF (Comment 35) : Absolutely agree with the last part of your comment. I am impressed that the Sharks Management were able to make the decision. To me it is an indication that they are capable of making the tough, but sensible and objective decisions. One of the best signs yet that we are capable of professionalism. I have no idea whether Marco will have any further role to play…

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.11.15 06:52:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 34) : Very sad news. He was a superstar…probably the first superstar of professional rugby. I wish his family my condolences and strength and comfort in their grief.

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.11.15 06:53:37 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 32) : Sad news!!!! True legend of the game!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.11.15 07:39:53 by JD Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 34) : think Mike Catt still have nightmares about Lomu literally running over him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.11.15 07:45:15 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 38) : ja although there were big and strong wings before him he changed the way people looked at wings forever and will remain the benchmark for wings of the future!!!!!

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.11.15 07:47:08 by JD Reply
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  • Cheers Jonah, RIP. Rugby entertainer supreme.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.11.15 08:29:24 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Nice SARU, the horse has well and truely bolted, the top players have moved on and now you step in. Congrats, give yourself a pat on the back and a bonus.
    Ironical that its straight after the Bulls have just signed the contracted players they have been chasing for a while that SARU decides to make a move.

    Where are Wynand Claasen and Divan Serfontein when you need them?

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.11.15 08:34:24 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : I think SARUs timing had a lot to do with protocols that had to be followed in allowing the Unions current management to correct the problems. Im assuming there was a timeframe that they had and with it passing they could now step in. SARU doesnt run rule over the Unions so think it can get quite tricky and last thing they would want is Cheeky Watson filing lawsuits etc.

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.11.15 08:58:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 44) : Yes there surely must be protocols but these cracks have been public from long before the CC even began Surely if Joe Public was aware of the severity of the problem then SARU would have been even more so. Sorry but I think they have a lot of blame to carry here especially because this is their baby, their invention as such, they, of all people should have been on the Kings case with checks and balances from the get go.

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.11.15 09:17:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : Im sure they were aware. But its tough to just jump in and interfere in a corporate structure. Same as we would all love to jump in and do something about Eskom but ya. The Unions all vote for the way they are structured etc so it really is mostly all on them im afraid.

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.11.15 09:30:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : @SheldonK (Comment 46) : SARU is 49% shareholder of Border, SWD, EP Kings and Southern Kings as far as I know (from the last time they bailed them out). They have a vested interest in the success of the Kings, both financially and politically

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.11.15 10:08:19 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 47) : That is interesting. So technically SARU owns the Kings players (well 49% of them anyway). Being a shareholder is great but do they have Board representation? Without Board representation 49% owner ship means very little. Just an aside…wouldnt it be a possible step towards central contracting should SARU take up a 51% stake in all the Unions? It would result in a big cash injection to the Unions but also give SARU the benefit of controlling the players such a the Boks

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.11.15 10:16:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 46) : Well then why are they involving themselves now, because they were “invited”, yeah right. Like I said, the Kings Super Franchise is a product of SARU, they had vested interests from the get go.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.11.15 10:19:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 47) : But their whole lackadaisical approach thus far goes against them having a vested interest in the Kings.

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.11.15 10:21:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : Its not that they were invited but that they are now able to get involved. Business protocols have to be followed. Emotion cant play a role

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.11.15 10:24:34 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Unions are made up of two components, the Union and the Commercial arm (PTY).

    The union elects a president, this happens through the club system of the union. Club presidents are nominated to the union and one of them is voted in as president.

    The union (president and board) appoints the CEO to the commercial arm (PTY).

    While some unions have sold off their shares to outside organisations, it is never more than 49% in total, meaning the union maintains majority control over their organisation.

    Each union is part of the federation (SARU) in a very similar way a union works. All union presidents serve on SARU board and they ratify any major changes to the sport in SA (like getting involved with the Kings).

    While the union has a duty towards the federation from an operational point of view, the federation can simply not step in and assume control as they want. Unions control their own affairs through people they appoint.

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.11.15 10:25:17 by Morné Reply
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  • Apparently Cheeky will be addressing the media at 12 this afternoon….

    Probably to congratulate himself on getting SARU to sponsor the Kings :roll:

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.11.15 10:30:22 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 52) : Thanks for shedding some light Morne. I assume the Commercial arm is the one that then contracts the players, coaches etc?

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.11.15 10:34:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) :

    Quite correct.

    But the influence of the commercial arm into the amateur arm and the other way around on such issues differs between each union and is at best hazy sometimes.

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.11.15 10:41:35 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 55) : Yeh i can imagine there are some very blurred lines. Especially if personnel both involved in the amateur and commercial arm.

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.11.15 10:50:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 52) : Interseting, so a union can run themselves into the ground, misuse their players, staff and funds, and SARU can do nothing about it..

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.11.15 10:50:48 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 57) : Its much the same as the directors can do anything they like in a company (within the law of course) and only way can they be held to account is by the shareholders who appointed them. Shareholders cannot just take over from the directors. They will have to meet to remover directors (requiring a majority) and then get their own directors appointed. So not as easy as just arriving at the door and taking over

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.11.15 10:54:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 57) : @SheldonK (Comment 58) :

    There comes a point, like the example with shareholders. SARU and all the unions are effectively shareholders of the game. As a collective they can make decisions like this with the Kings, or more dramatic, like Border last year where they were placed under full administration by SARU.

    SARU (as a collective) duty is to protect the integrity and well-being of the game.

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.11.15 10:57:00 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 59) : Ok, thats more in line with what I thought SARU could do.

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.11.15 11:02:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 52) : Morne, just a question. Who contracts the players, the commercial arm or the union?

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.11.15 11:22:06 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 59) : Are the Financial issues etc not with the Commercial arm as opposed to the Union where SARU has more influence? So SARu could take take over the Union and then in effect influence the commercial arm but they cant assume control of the commercial arm can they? That would be against the value of the companies act surely. Technical i know but still

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.11.15 11:22:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 61) :

    Commercial arm, but union needs to ratify decisions. So this is where it becomes blurry.

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.11.15 11:40:13 by Morné Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 62) :

    Yes the union.

    Remember union ratifies any spent by commercial arm – commercial arm is in effect answerable to union (board and president).

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.11.15 11:41:16 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 64) : Yes fair to say the commercial arm provides answers to the union but they are still a stand alone company. CEO is appointed by Union but should there be a disagreement the Union cant just say do it our way or else. There would need to shareholder meeting to remove and re-appoint directors etc. people saying SARU should just walk in and take over. To my knowledge its a lot more complicated than that.

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.11.15 11:47:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) :

    A hell of a lot more complicated. And this is where the line blurs. CEO’s are not appointed on fixed terms, and his re-appointment is often determined by the board and how he served.

    CEO’s are responsible for the commercial aspect of the union, but the union has a massive influence on what and how money is spent. Strange sort of setup.

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.11.15 11:51:50 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 66) : Yeh very strange setup and perhaps there lies the problem. Union influences where money is spent but any debt etc incurred is the commercial arm’s problem and the Union cant be held accountable for it. Blurred lines is one of the major stumbling blocks for good corporate governance. Again i bring back my point of SARU owning 51% stake in the Unions. Positives would be a big cash injection for the Union and SARU being able to control the country’s best players etc.

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.11.15 11:56:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • So this is a case of the incompetent blind now trying to lead the clueless blind,eish

  • Comment 68, posted at 18.11.15 15:17:17 by benji Reply
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