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Strong Sharks flavour for Wailers in Dubai


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 25 Nov 2015 at 10:28
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It’s very nearly Dubai Sevens time, with the fantastically festive showcase event for sevens rugby taking place from 3-5 December this year. There are a number of different tournaments taking place simultaneously during the event and while all eyes will, of course, be on the Blitzobkke in the HSBC World Rugby Sevens Series, a particular team in the men’s International Invitation division should also attract the attention of Sharks fans.

Sharks under 21 backline coach AB Zondagh – son of slightly-more-well-know Alan Zondagh – will get to showcase his coaching prowess as part of the Newcastle Wailers invitational side coaching team. What’s more, AB has secured the services of a host of Sharks age group stars to make the trip with him. With the nomadic Wailers team recently joining forces with the Newcastle Falcons, hence the renaming of the side, one wonders if it wouldn’t be more apt for them to play as the “Durban Wailers” in this year’s tournament.

Sharks under 21 captain Marius Louw leads the contingent of players, with fellow centres Legend Marwana and Sandile Khubeka also in the mix. Wingers Neil Maritz and Marcel Coetzee and scrumhalf Lotter Pretorius will also make the trip, as will flanker Dylan Nel, who has returned from a stint in New Zealand. Also featuring is a former Sharks under 21 player who has not been seen in a while, Glenwood old boy Ian Adendirff (whose brother Shaun played for the Junior Boks in 2012). Ian has represented South Africa in sevens and should add some good leadership to the youngster around him.

Rudi Dames, another who is well-known on the Durban coaching team, will assist. He is currently Glenwood head coach, but has worked with the Sharks under 21 side in the past.

Congrats to all the boys selected and good luck to them (and to AB and Rudi as well).



46 Comments

  • 8 sharks in the squad of 12.(Is the physio called speedo baker?i knew a studa baker).

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.11.15 10:36:12 by 50shadesofshark Reply
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  • Ian Ardendorff was pure quality. Unfortunate successive knee injuries pretty much ending his chances of playing pro rugby. Ask anyone he has played against and they will tell you he is one of the fittest and strongest guys they have played against with an incredible skillset. Its not by chance he was playing 1st side at Collegians straight out of school…

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.11.15 10:41:21 by SheldonK Reply
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  • Would be interesting to see how they do!!!!

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.11.15 10:53:51 by JD Reply
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  • I see Rudi Dames is also there as a coach. Current Glenwood High 1st Team coach, isn’t he?

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.11.15 10:55:17 by StevieS Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : His brother was a beast of a flank!!! Is he still involved with the SA 7′s team? I don’t know why the Bulls didn’t use him more.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.11.15 10:57:38 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 4) : yes. I missed his name at first… just edited the article.

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.11.15 10:57:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : let me rephrase – I thought I had edited the article. Missed the part where I click the “update” button…. it’s done now.

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.11.15 11:03:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Our former landlord. A really great guy!

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.11.15 11:07:16 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Will you be getting updates of their progress during the tournament?

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.11.15 11:07:47 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : :lol: I’ve done that type of thing many a time.

    Thanks for the article, interesting read. How did our local boys get involved with the Wailers, considering they’re in Newcastle now.

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.11.15 11:15:12 by StevieS Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : if at first you don’t succeed try and try again!!!!!! :twisted: Push the Button Rob!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.11.15 11:17:19 by JD Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 10) : easy Newcastle is in KZN!! hahahaha :twisted: :grin:

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.11.15 11:19:58 by JD Reply
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  • I see Legend Marwana is still around. What happened to Gareth Meikle (I think? thats the right name)?

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.11.15 11:35:41 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 13) : back in Zim and playing polo if you can believe it.

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.11.15 11:38:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 9) : Dubai 7s are televised…. I’m hoping to watch most of the games.

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.11.15 11:38:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : me to!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.11.15 11:41:30 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : I’m definitely going to watch as well. I meant the tournament the Wailers will be in though.

    Will that be streamed or televised at all?

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.11.15 11:46:11 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 17) : oh ja, good point…. I see a lot of the games overlap. Not sure which ones will be shown.

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.11.15 11:50:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : I’ll try and find something. It would be interesting to follow the Wailers’ progress.

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.11.15 11:53:15 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 5) : Yeh he is with the Emerging 7s side

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.11.15 12:00:51 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :
    Wow. Unexpected. :shock:

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.11.15 13:57:50 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 21) : ja – I don’t really know what happened there. I guess with Fisher and Esterhuizen on the books there wasn’t room for him. It was a pity, because he was a very good prospect.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.11.15 15:47:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • off the topic….seems Mitchell to be unveiled as Stormers coach on a 4 year deal…..and A Coetsee to take Bok job in December …

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.11.15 15:49:30 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 23) : I think one of those is a potentially very good (and perhaps even long overdue) appointment. I’ll let you figure out which one.

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.11.15 15:54:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : I wonder which one :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.11.15 16:04:35 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : hey Rob

    Can you tell me, Does winger Sizo Maseko now belong to the Leopards ?

    I know we loaned him and venter the scrummie to them for the duration of the currie cup

    If you dont know for certain could you find out

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.11.15 16:06:38 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : I am happy with both….well ecstatic about Mitchell to be honest …Not a huge AC fan, but he knows his limitations and improved when Gert was appointed….I hope AC will surround himself with strong attack minded assistants ….to be honest I would have gladly had any number of coaches in place of Heyneke….

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.11.15 16:58:21 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 27) : Grant, Coetzee is not the right choice, Coetzee in 4 to 5 years did absolutely nothing with WP.

    I would prefer a combo, Plumtree with Ackerman and Swys de Bruin would have been far better.

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.11.15 17:03:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Or a Mitchell with Ackerman and De bruin as a combo

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.11.15 17:03:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 28) : AC not my 1 st choice…..I would have gone with Mallet….Mitchell …Plumtree….B Venter….E Jones …Ackermann…..then AC….in that order…
    BUT……Far rather AC than Heyneke…..any day of the week…..
    Heyneke damaged the Boks beyond belief in 2015…..

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.11.15 17:14:49 by grant10 Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 26) : I can find out.

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.11.15 17:18:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 30) : Agree, what I like about Plumtree or Mitchell is they also know the SA ad bok culture, both experienced I also think as assistants to him is the Build a Ackermann and a Swys de Bruin who is very good on attacking rugby

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.11.15 17:20:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 26) : Venter is currently training with the Sharks – I know because I see pictures of him. Not named in the Super Rugby squad, though, so I would imagine he’d be ripe for a move elsewhere, with the Leopards being the most likely destination. I think Maseko is still with the Leopards but will try to confirm.

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.11.15 17:21:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) : A Coetsee MUST make sure he has top class assistants….I also rate Swys from the Lions…

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.11.15 17:34:04 by grant10 Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 34) : I don’t know how the Sharks let Swys go! He is the brains at the Lions imho.

    Would be a valuable asset to the Boks.

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.11.15 08:04:07 by Bump Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 34) : @Bump (Comment 35) : Interesting that a lot of guys now rate Swys as he has got a couple decent results with the Lions but his time in Durban didnt prove very successful at all. His Wildebeest sides he coached were not that hot at all. Guess as they say the environment makes a difference.

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.11.15 08:28:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bump (Comment 36) : Yes…however…I believe Sharks are going to surprise next year…In Ruan Botha and Lewies [ if fit ] 2 really top class youngsters….and solid loosies….Thomas Du Toit will become better as well…..and Lambie is going to prove he deserves a better bok deal….I am wary of the Sharks…

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.11.15 08:30:04 by grant10 Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : Too true! If you’re happy and feel supported in your work environment then you can produce better results.

    It also depends on what resources you’re given to work with (players AND other coaches).

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.11.15 10:16:01 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 37) : I’m feeling confident for next year. I REALLY hope though that we’ll play Sithole at 13 as I feel that that’s his best position. He just doesn’t have the same impact on the wing!

    I also want to see Lwazi used more at 15.

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.11.15 10:17:11 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 38) : 100% it depends on the environment. Its why saying if a coach is successful in 1 environment he will be successful in another is not necessarily correct. There are a lot of factors at play and an environment change may see improvement or regression.

  • Comment 40, posted at 26.11.15 10:38:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @ChrisS (Comment 39) : on attack from 2nd phase sharks play willie 10 , lambie 12 and mvovo goes to 15?even do it from first phase at times?

  • Comment 41, posted at 26.11.15 11:09:09 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Boks 7s squad for dubai and ct tournaments: Chris Dry Philip Snyman Francois Hougaard Kwagga Smith Werner Kok Kyle Brown Cheslin Kolbe Ryno Benjamin Justin Geduld Cecil Afrika Seabelo Senatla Juan de Jongh

  • Comment 42, posted at 26.11.15 13:04:39 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 41) : Sounds good to me. On defence they can have Lambie at 10 to cut down anything in the 10 channel, put Willie on the wing and have Mvovo at 15. Esterhuizen can start on the wing and move to centre on defence. He and Lambie can be a brick wall the way Butch and Frans Steyn were.

  • Comment 43, posted at 26.11.15 15:01:15 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 40) : This raises the question…How do we suit our coaches to the right environments?

    Surely that’s as important to bring the best out of them as it is to fit players to the right environment to bring the best out of them.

  • Comment 44, posted at 26.11.15 15:02:28 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 44) : Thats a very tricky question. Especially when you move up levels from club to provincial to national.

  • Comment 45, posted at 26.11.15 15:59:46 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @ChrisS (Comment 43) : To be honest im not a fan of players switching every time on attack/defense. It just asks for trouble and disorganisation. So yes on the odd occassion on attack perhaps…but def more the exception than the norm

  • Comment 46, posted at 26.11.15 16:02:02 by SheldonK Reply

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