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Kings Quest: Update eleventy million


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content, Super Rugby on 7 Dec 2015 at 10:13
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Hi Sharks fans. So it seems that cruel fate is not quite done with the Kings yet.

Here’s a quick recap of what’s been happening:

  • - Carlos Spencer walks out on the Kings in June citing non-payment of salaries. This is strenuously denied by all and sundry in the Kings management team.
  • - EP Kings Currie Cup players wear armbands in protest against late/non-payment of salaries.
  • - The Kings President (for how long???), Cheeky Watson (too Cheeky by half), promises a record breaking sponsorship, which has still failed to materialise.
  • - Players and staff are again paid late and Cheeky heads off to a wedding in Australia, hoping to get a sponsorship while there. Maybe there were some rich guests at the wedding reception???
  • - A host of senior/star players leave the Kings in November as, after yet another non-payment of salaries, the Player’s Association informs the players that their contracts with the EPRU are null and void. The Bulls sign almost all of them, reassuring their youth in the system already that they are still loved and are stars in the eyes of Bulls management. All 6 former SA Schools/SA u20 flyhalves on their books smile happily and continue to practice their up-and-unders.
  • - SARU steps in, too late, and announce that they are the saviours of the Kings, the Eastern Cape and SA as a whole.
  • - Brent Janse van Rensburg quits as Kings Super Rugby coach and makes a beeline for the rosier prospects at that powerhouse of SA rugby, Boland.
  • - SARU puts in place a management plan which will ensure the Kings are competitive. This includes appointing the Head Coach of the SWD Academy as Head Coach of the Kings.

Latest developments:
SARU’s master plan is revealed and includes the following:

  • - The Kings is a separate franchise from the EPRU
  • - 20 of the Kings squad will be made up of 7’s and u20 players, contracted to SARU
  • - Only 20 of the current EPRU Kings players will be included in the Kings Super Rugby team, and only on an 8 month contract (job security anyone?!)
  • - Kings players will have to take a pay cut to play for the Kings in Super Rugby
  • - Those EPRU players not contracted to the Kings Super Rugby side will have to rely on the bankrupt EPRU to pay their salaries.
  • - 30+ Kings players meet and sign a petition on Friday night stating that they want that Cheeky sod removed from office sooner rather than later.
  • - They also state they will not play for anyone, SARU included, until their demands are met.

Stay tuned for the next episode. Like sands through the empty cash box of the Kings, so are the days of SA Rugby.



104 Comments

  • Thank you for brightning up my Monday. Love the chirps.

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.12.15 10:17:06 by T-Shark Reply
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  • What a disgrace,playing around with peoples livelihood,great on you SARU,oh and by the way please wake Rip Van Winkle when the Boks next win a RWC

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.12.15 10:26:13 by benji Reply
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  • The Watson’s really are rotten to the core.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.12.15 10:31:22 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • And who said December was boring in terms of rugby….i have my coke and popcorn ready

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.12.15 10:34:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Simple solution, give the kings to the pumas and call the franchise the Puma Kings.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.12.15 10:35:05 by Sagroup Reply

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  • Love the title, was a huge Sierra fan back in the day. Hilarious article!

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.12.15 10:36:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Good entertainment for a Monday! :mrgreen:

    I really feel sorry for the Kings players though and I’m proud of them for taking a stand. You can’t mess with peoples livelihoods!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.12.15 10:41:12 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Sagroup (Comment 5) : I have a counter-proposal…

    Give the Lions franchise to the Pumas and give the Kings franchise to the Lions. The Pumas can play as the Cats and…wait for it…the Lions can play as the Lion Kings :grin: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.12.15 10:42:37 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Sagroup (Comment 5) : Or let Namibia take it over and become the Desert Kings :)

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.12.15 10:43:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) : That would actually be very interesting. Would love to see them involved in a 5 nations at some stage. Or even a 6 Nations if we include Japan.

    I really think you’ve hit on a great idea there.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.12.15 10:50:44 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 6) : me too.

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.12.15 10:51:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : What are the realistic chances of including Namibia at some stage? They were good in the World Cup and a few years of Super Rugby would improve them in leaps and bounds!

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.12.15 11:03:00 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 10) : I think Super rugby would prob be the biggest step for them. Competing with the likes of SA,NZ and OZ at the moment is a bit far off. Money and sponsorships a big issue for them…means even super rugby is a far off dream

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.12.15 11:04:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : I hear you. The travel costs would kill them.

    Still, it’s an interesting proposal and makes more sense than the Kings.

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.12.15 11:10:01 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 14) : Look the Kings option would make sense if they could get their admin etc together. There is potential fro a team in that region but both EP and Border need to get their sh*te together first

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.12.15 11:18:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : you’re 100% on this one…. Baby steps for us Nam ouens… baby steps…

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.12.15 11:20:46 by R Hayward Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 6) : @robdylan (Comment 11) : Interesting; I never pegged the two of you as being Ford fans…

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.12.15 11:22:44 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 17) : You’re just too young to get the reference ;-)

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.12.15 11:24:59 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : We have a term that applies for the sh*te at the Kings at the moment. It’s a Number 3.

    For those not in the know, a Number 3 is a Number 2 that has the consistency of a Number 1. It appropriately sums up their situation :lol:

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.12.15 11:27:03 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 17) : I grew up with that stuff…. defined my adolescence.

    Aah, the pain of trying to figure out how to get Space Quest IV to run on my XT with a 20MB hard drive and no way to read 1.2MB floppies

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.12.15 11:43:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 19) : liquid sh*t?

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.12.15 11:43:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Enjoyable read… ;-)

    Pathetic state of affairs… :roll:

    So the Kings are essentially the SARU XV?!

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.12.15 11:54:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Exactly!

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.12.15 12:00:50 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : They don’t even know the composition of the squad yet.

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.12.15 12:02:01 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 24) : Then we wonder why we don’t have central contracting in SA – ’cause this is how saru rolls…blundering their way from one major mistake to the next train smash. :roll:

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.12.15 12:11:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 25) : It’s the “little” things like this that make me dread the announcement of the new Bok coach.

    If it carries on this way then I’m expecting a few hidings for the team next year.

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.12.15 12:43:51 by ChrisS Reply
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  • I wish the kings players would make an exception and play for the proteas right now! What an aweful year as a supporter Boks, Sharks, Chelsea and now the proteas.

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.12.15 12:50:33 by byron Reply

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  • @ChrisS (Comment 26) : @byron (Comment 27) : At this rate, I’ll be saving a ton of money on my dstv subscription from 2016 onward. :roll:

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.12.15 13:15:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 28) : Read one article up on how to do that ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.12.15 13:26:03 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 27) : I forgot about the cricket, just went for an update and see that we got klapped. Basically we thought that we could bat bat out 5 full sessions and save the test but in the process we scored at less than 1 run an over :shock: and gave India their biggest margin of victory over all test playing nations.

    Driving yesterday I was listening to Radio 2000 and the lady commentator was enthusing about what a great game this was – a real test she said and at that point I started thinking about bare feet and ktchens. :twisted:

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.12.15 14:18:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 29) : I wouldn’t know what you’re talking about…obviously ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.12.15 14:57:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 30) : Now that’s not a very PC thought to have, is it? :twisted:

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.12.15 15:00:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 32) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.12.15 15:26:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 30) : I suppose male commentators are completely in the clear? I suspect that if we attempted the math, female commentators would have a commanding lead over their male counterparts in terms of getting it right, even taking the ratios into account. Hugh Bladen has ensured that they’ll never catch up. ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.12.15 15:27:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @T-Shark (Comment 1) : My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it lol

    @SheldonK (Comment 4) : It’s like a bloody soapie. Next thing we’ll hear is how Cheeky has the full support of the players.

    @vanmartin (Comment 6) : Glad you enjoyed the title. I’ll credit JZ with that one haha

    @ChrisS (Comment 7) : :lol:

    @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : You summed it up very nicely.

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.12.15 15:30:29 by StevieS Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 32) : The Thought Police aren’t very PC either. ;-)

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.12.15 15:37:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 34) : All the women commentators combined could not match old Hugh when it comes to getting it horribly wrong. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.12.15 15:40:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 34) : Can you imagine Blades commentating on a 5 day cricket match.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.12.15 15:46:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 38) : :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.12.15 15:50:13 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 35) : Nicely written, nice and humorous look at a nasty situation.

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.12.15 15:52:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 38) : …slurred speech and all…

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.12.15 15:57:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 38) : It may be the most entertaining aspect of the game if the Proteas are playing :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.12.15 15:59:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 40) : Thanks for that. Great to have your feedback.

    I really feel for the players. How do they get out of this mess?

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.12.15 16:01:18 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 43) : I think it can only be SARU that can sort this out now and I think they have compounded their problems by not finding a way to step in months ago.

    As for the immediate present Id say that SARU needs to broker some sort of deal with the likes of Griquas, Pumas etc to try and get them to second some of their players to the Kings. Ditto for players that are on the margins of the other Super Rugby unions.

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.12.15 16:17:39 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 44) : The loan example is also what I was thinking. But they’ll want the Kings to fail, won’t they? I’m playing devil’s advocate.

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.12.15 16:25:07 by StevieS Reply
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  • 20 players from saru and 20 players from the kings?so this means superrugby squads will consist of 40 players?though that doesnt mean much since every union can draw from their contracted players re: superrugby.

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.12.15 16:39:15 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 46) : I think it’s just your initial squad. They have to name them by a certain date for rights issues, advertising etc.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.12.15 16:50:25 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 47) : isnt the superrugby contracts paid for by sanzar?set monthly fee?this is why 20 kings players need to agree to less money?think other unions pay this as an add-on to contracted players then.
    Highlighting 3 points from the article:
    - Only 20 of the current EPRU Kings players will be included in the Kings Super Rugby team, and only on an 8 month contract (job security anyone?!)
    - Kings players will have to take a pay cut to play for the Kings in Super Rugby
    - Those EPRU players not contracted to the Kings Super Rugby side will have to rely on the bankrupt EPRU to pay their salaries.

    They get 8 month contracts because that is how long the sanzar paid superrugby contracts last?no money then directly from saru to any kings player?

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.12.15 17:22:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 48) : You hit it.

    Other franchises pay for their players themselves. SARU are now having to pay for the Kings players, hence the reduced salaries.

    In effect the 8 month contract is a ‘wait and see’ approach from SARU. They can’t say the Kings will succeed.

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.12.15 18:49:27 by StevieS Reply
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  • Now I wonder why that loud mouth buffoon, Tony Ehrenreich is so quiet all of a sudden. he has been quite vociferous where Meyer has been concerned, but now he is all bashful, about the shenanigans at the Kings.

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.12.15 19:06:01 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 50) : Now that is the best question of the day!

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.12.15 19:28:11 by StevieS Reply
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  • I most def dislike the Kings as a team…but I feel very sorry for the players…playing hard…working hard…but unable to pay for basic stuff from day to day…some home owners that have to try convince the banks to bear with them…
    I give the players credit for the professionalism in the way they approached it…I saw the letter of requests…well written and reasonable…and I don’t blame them for standing up against SARU…as many players signed with Kings with the promise of being able to play for a position in the super rugby side…now they need to be good enough for the run on team or have no chance…and that is in all ways wrong from SARU too…terrible actually…

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.12.15 19:35:33 by Hmmm Reply

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  • The real questions are this: why are the Kings even involved at all? Why does SA have 6 franchises at all? All of this could have been avoided if SA was just a little smarter.

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.12.15 19:48:52 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • Well getting rid of Watson is a step in the right direction. Even if the rest looks bleak for 2016.

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.12.15 19:51:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Who has shares in the franchise? Answering that might be a clue as to why the bailout?

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.12.15 19:54:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 55) : Initial talk was of R40m from the ANC, but that’s not substantiated. Just rumor.

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.12.15 21:18:32 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 36) : I’m not too concerned with being PC, being truthful and having integrity trumps being PC in my books…

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.12.15 07:51:44 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Do you remember Phix & Klutz CGA emulators? If I remember right, I think had to use those to get KQ2 running on my Hercules 1MB/2MB RAM, 8Mhz, 286 Beast.

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.12.15 09:49:32 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 58) : ah yes! Man, those were the days. Good old Hercules was “proper” monochrome. CGA tried to convince us it was better by introducing three shades of a single colour along with black.

    I have a friend who actually had a “colour” CGA monitor. It used cyan, magenta, white and black as the four colours.

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.12.15 10:53:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : Haha! Wow those CGA monitors were quite rare. I can remember playing Shinobi on one, but can’t place where. Must have been at that one super rich kids house. Always that one kid that got immediately upgraded to EGA and it’s envious 16 colour pallet when it became available.

    I skipped CGA and went to EGA. Managed to scrap to together a half decent one after offering to throw away a bunch of of broken PCs from a couple companies.

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.12.15 11:11:10 by gregkaos Reply
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  • on this day in sharks rugby: NOTHING happened :(

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.12.15 11:49:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wow so Venter says the Kings are going to be “the first 50/50 trial” which is being reported to refer to race representation. Not sure I like all this social engineering but well ja no fine.

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.12.15 11:51:08 by Gold_Must_Go Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 60) : I had an amber CGA, which was the envy of my friends who all had green (apart from that one guy I already mentioned).

    I actually skipped EGA too and went all the way to Super VGA. Not that it helped, since at that stage the games were only supporting 256 colours max

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.12.15 11:51:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 60) : Hahaha. My first pc was a monster 386 with 80MB HDD, 4MB RAM, 1.44 Stiffy Drive, Creative Labs Soundblaster audio and 15 inch VGA monitor. :lol:

    At the time (I think it was 1992-ish) my favourite game was a stealth fighter combat flight sim by Microprose, called F117 Nighthawk. For the time the graphics were out of this world and the designers went for serious reality, such as almost realistic radar and AI, which made it bloody difficult.

    The game came on two stiffies and the manual was as thick as a paperback novel. The quickest one could speed up the game was 2x on autopilot – playing in real time took as long as an actual mission would and a bombing run on Tripoli could take up to an hour taking off from Italy or Greece.

    I think it came with an overlay for a 101 keyboard.

    The link below is for an updated version with better graphics, but I don’t notice any difference.

    Check it out: http://retroism.com/f-117a-nighthawk-stealth-fighter-2-0/

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.12.15 12:00:08 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 60) : @robdylan (Comment 63) : @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 64) : You fellars are over the hill :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.12.15 12:13:12 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 65) : And still gaming :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.12.15 12:14:39 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 66) : Have you at least graduated to console gaming, or you still slugging it out on the hind-tit of gaming – PC Gaming?

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.12.15 12:21:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 64) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 65) :

    You reckon!? :mrgreen:
    It gets worse than that I’m afraid. That 286 was not my first computer.
    It was the ZX Spectrum. We’re talking about 16KB of RAM here! Birthday time I’d get a magazine type of booklet that I could copy code out of to play games. It’d take me about 2 afternoons to type it all out and fix up typos. Most fo them sucked except for a “tank” game where you’re a single big 2D block that shoots other blocks. I couldn’t save my the code anywhere so if someone unplugged it I had to do it all over again. Totally worth it. :cool:

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.12.15 12:23:44 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 64) : loved that game

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.12.15 12:27:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 64) : I remember that game!
    I’ve just been trying to recall some of the games I played on my VGA system. Operation Wolf come to mind. How we made it to the 2nd to last level using a keyboard blows my mind.

  • Comment 70, posted at 08.12.15 12:37:29 by gregkaos Reply
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  • Sheet its like I’m eavesdropping on a private chat room with all the geeks,emos and nerds from the big bang theory,even Stu the comic book guy is here ,only notable omission is Sheldon,or did I speak too soon.

  • Comment 71, posted at 08.12.15 12:39:42 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 71) : :lol: and where is Penny.

  • Comment 72, posted at 08.12.15 12:48:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 28) : ja boet this whole new Super rugby is going to be a joke!!!!!

  • Comment 73, posted at 08.12.15 13:25:41 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 30) : hahaha funny boet!!!!!! Ja must say think this might just bring them back to mother earth!!!

  • Comment 74, posted at 08.12.15 13:28:44 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 42) : ja but must say hitting your foot with a hammer is also more entertaining than the Proteas!!!

  • Comment 75, posted at 08.12.15 13:31:04 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) : all this tech talk is hurting my head!!!! ;-D

  • Comment 76, posted at 08.12.15 13:33:15 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 72) : hahaha ja boet she must be close!!!!

  • Comment 77, posted at 08.12.15 13:35:28 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 71) : hahaha ja boet!!!

  • Comment 78, posted at 08.12.15 13:36:37 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 72) : :lol:

  • Comment 79, posted at 08.12.15 14:04:19 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 75) : :mrgreen:

    Glad you made it home safe. I have a severe case of heartburn today from too many dips into that bowl of chilli last night. I regret nothing.

  • Comment 80, posted at 08.12.15 14:12:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Gold_Must_Go (Comment 62) : If I didn’t know any better, judging from Venter’s tweets, I’d say he’s making a play for the Bok coaching job.

    This statement by him:
    “The most important thing a coach must get his head around is supporting his players unconditionally.That is when you see quotas performing” (—–>sorry Rob, I know he uses the big no-no word, but it is Venter’s own words, and seems to prove his willingness to work within the new saru framework – feel free to delete should it cause issues)

    (let’s keep this discussion within the rules of Sharksworld)

  • Comment 81, posted at 08.12.15 14:16:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 81) : I said he had that job in his sights 6 months ago.
    Don’t think he has the staying power for the job,his OCD will get the better of him in under 6months and he will eying out a medical practice in Argentina or Japan.He cannot stay focused on a single target for too long.also think he could be the new man at the Stormers.

  • Comment 82, posted at 08.12.15 14:27:03 by The hound Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 81) : @The hound (Comment 82) : Venter just making a few rumblings in the hope of getting a little advisor role in January prior to Super rugby with some desperate franchise…

  • Comment 83, posted at 08.12.15 15:12:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 82) : @SheldonK (Comment 83) : Maybe he’s making a play at backline coach position under AC…

    …but that comment of his, and the timing seems loaded.

  • Comment 84, posted at 08.12.15 15:21:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 84) : Venter and PDivvy as Bok assistants would be huge entertainment value

  • Comment 85, posted at 08.12.15 15:26:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 67) : PC for me all the way!

    I like the developer communities and loads of free maps, missions, mods, etc. I still play Operation Flashpoint GOTY, because there is a massive amount of user-created content available online and it’s pretty satisfying scripting your own stuff as well.

    Consoles don’t offer that.

  • Comment 86, posted at 08.12.15 15:46:46 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 80) : ja got home in the early hours of this morning but must say was great fun and also agree on the I regret nothing part!!! Was great fun.

  • Comment 87, posted at 08.12.15 16:02:13 by JD Reply
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  • Hi all. I have been very quiet on here as I try to keep my head above water trying to get almost youth camps prepared and held and getting ready for the festive season. But I did just want to pop in to say: FIRST EPRU AND THEN SARU – YOU SHOULD BOTH BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!! This is disgusting, disappointing, ridiculous, pathetic…and those are just the kindest adjectives I can think of. If I was my gran I’d say: Shame on you. Oh what the heck: SHAME ON YOU!!

  • Comment 88, posted at 08.12.15 21:57:30 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 27) : That’s nothing…I’m a Newcastle supporter. Oh well, at least we beat Liverpool this weekend…

  • Comment 89, posted at 08.12.15 22:02:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 89) : been there just hope my team (Man U) turned the corner!!!!

  • Comment 90, posted at 08.12.15 22:12:13 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 88) : ja very very bad!!!!! Both really stuffed up and seems unable or unwilling to do better!!!!!! Players are suffering and this at a time they should be rejoycing!!!!!!!

  • Comment 91, posted at 08.12.15 22:13:11 by JD Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 64) : Mine was amstrad 64. 64k not mb of memory no hard drive. Used tapes not stiffy. Took longer to load the game and each new stage than it took to finish the stage.

  • Comment 92, posted at 09.12.15 07:15:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 92) : I had a friend who had one of those. Oh how I coveted that machine :grin:

  • Comment 93, posted at 09.12.15 07:34:03 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I know this is probably a bit off current topic and possibly not an allowed discussion but just to throw it out there….The Kings were meant to be the shining light for transformation and showing the rest of SA the untapped previously disadvantaged talent. So with bearing that in mind together with the SARU statement saying the new Bok coach needs to embrace transformation i find it interesting that not 1…not a single 1 big ‘black owned’ business has put up their hand to sponsor this beacon of transformation…just a thought about how the thoughts of the few are possibly not shared by the many. Anyway back to the PC discussion…

  • Comment 94, posted at 09.12.15 07:57:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 92) : OK, now THAT’S ancient! :lol:

  • Comment 95, posted at 09.12.15 09:51:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • The list of Kings players not offered SARU contracts: David Bulbring, Jacques Engelbrecht, Tazz Fuzani, Martin Ferreira, Ronnie Cooke, Dwayne Kelly, Enrico Acker, Michael van Vuuren (who has already indicated he is going the legal route to recoup his unpaid salaries), Scott van Breda, Aidon Davis, Gary van Aswegen,George Whitehead,SP Marais, James Hilterbrand, Jurgen Visser, JC Roos, Caylib Oosthuizen, Mark Richards and Carel Greeff

  • Comment 96, posted at 09.12.15 10:00:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 81) : Glad Venter is sorted on the quota side of things, now he needs to work on his memory – we cant have a Bok coach forgetting to coach something as trivial as defence. I got the feeling he also forgot how to find his way to Kings Park recently.

  • Comment 97, posted at 09.12.15 10:41:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 96) : and most of those would have been seen as first team players had Cheeky’s figment of sponsorship appeared…

    Seeing that Kanko, Frankie etc have not featured for the Blitz Bokke,,, how would it feel if Kanko would be in Kings team vs Sharks come Feb?

    Local community is trying to support a similar venture as Dolphins vs Sharks to raise supports for Kings players. Sad thing is the Warriors does not either have a headline sponsor so time in the Eastern Cape is tough for Sport.

    SARU is making a mess of the situation and unfortunately it does not look like any clear leadership is being shown by anyone involved. Hope the actual idea behind SARU looking for a bigger chunk of the revenue is to move to a central contracting model, otherwise rugby as pro sport in most unions will be severely under threat

  • Comment 98, posted at 09.12.15 11:21:25 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 98) : Its a very bad situation. Doesnt look like SARU stepping in has made much of a difference other than culling most of the players so the wage bill is less.Where is the big business support in PE? Are we perhaps over estimating how much local business actually wants a team there? SARU have even moved the 7s away from PE so their ‘support’ for the region really needs to be questioned

  • Comment 99, posted at 09.12.15 11:39:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 99) : Community support is really good but big business’ willingness to get involved is cautious / hesitant to put it mildly..

    I am also 100% convinced that as long as Cheeky is involved the local businesses will stay away and EPRU house needs to be cleaned up. Sponsorship similar to current Sharks model of selling any and all available retail space on the Jersey will probably be more realistic as more smaller sponsors seems more likely than a large hero type sponsor. The 7s move definitely hurt as the tourney was well support and a massive local event but financially the Cape will make more money for SARU. all-in-all not a rosy picture and without a proper union or team that can actually compete, things will be tough for a while. Lots can be learned from Pumas on how to run a union on limited budgets but not sure any such proper business approaches will be followed anytime soon

  • Comment 100, posted at 09.12.15 12:12:12 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 100) : Look community support is great but at the end of the day all that contributes financially is buying a few tickets to matches. To run a team in Super rugby and even CC requires some serious financial muscle. The Pumas currently have sponsors adequate to cover them for CC…not sure if those same guys would be able to cover running costs of a Super rugby side though. The point i was getting at is that the SA Business environment doesnt see the Kings as a good investment…and until that changes it will always be doomed.

  • Comment 101, posted at 09.12.15 12:20:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 100) : This is a sad state of affairs. The Warriors throwing their RamSlam semi hope away will also not bring sponsors running.

  • Comment 102, posted at 09.12.15 12:24:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 102) : dont remind us! we have a suite and were planning who to invite during the break case of chickens..hatch

  • Comment 103, posted at 09.12.15 12:43:58 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 103) : Yep, there was a point in that game where calm heads should have realised that the win (and a semi) was far more important than a possible home semi or nothing.

  • Comment 104, posted at 09.12.15 13:59:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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