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Flight of the bald eagle


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content on 5 Jan 2016 at 10:36
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Former Kiwi, Force, Lions and Impi coach John Mitchell has been appointed head coach of the US Eagles national rugby team.

Mithcell’s contract is for four years and he will be in charge through to the conclusion of the 2019 World Cup in Japan, replacing Mike Tonkins.

In an official statement released by USA Rugby, Mitchell said he is “excited about putting my strengths into play and building on the solid work laid down in the last World Cup cycle. I see this as a wonderful opportunity to play a key part in inspiring, mentoring, creating confidence and stability in transforming USA rugby into a strong, globally competitive unit by the end of 2019.”

All the best with the new job, Mitch. Waking the sleeping giant of world rugby should be an interesting challenge indeed.



34 Comments

  • Wonder if he’ll have any input or involvement with their Sevens side?

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.01.16 10:38:36 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 1) : Think he must try and involve some of the sevens side guys as they have been cooking now for a while and is giving most of the other teams a run for their money

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.01.16 10:44:43 by Henkb Reply
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  • This could be interesting. USA rugby is definitely growing but there is some dispute/argument etc about who runs the rugby in the USA. Seems as though different parts of the country are run by different bodies etc with some corporates also looking to get involved but run separate to the ‘Unions’. Interesting times indeed.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.01.16 10:50:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) : yeah, what they need is a great conciliator to get everyone working together…. Oh, oops….

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.01.16 11:01:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Well the States are quite famous for making peace by force sooo….

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.01.16 11:14:50 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : We don’t care much for that in SA rugby, as long as people’s feelings aren’t being hurt, we’ll divide and conquer on our merry little way.

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.01.16 11:15:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I’m actually quite chuffed with this. John Mitchell is too good not to be involved in rugby. Yes, he has had to learn much…I have been waiting for a while to see him involved somewhere if only to see how he himself has developed. I will be observing this with a lot of interest. Good luck, John…

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.01.16 11:42:41 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 6) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.01.16 11:43:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I think John Mitchell could make something happen with the USA Eagles. For an answer to Sheldon’s point, there are regional unions and a national union in USA, not unlike other countries. Ther is one national league, that is almost entirely amateur, corporate sponsorship and involvement is very minor.

    The question will be how well John Mitchell can deal with working with a squad where most players play their rugby on a different continent and the rest are nothing more than very good amateurs. The Eagles squad is together for such a short period of time each year, it is near impossible for the coach to have all that much impact, and the international schedule is quite limited.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.01.16 16:03:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 9) : I reckon best case scenario for rugby to evolve there is for either major colleges to start playing and thereby an elite base can be established and supplemented with guys playing overseas. Or Corporate investment needs to create a pro league. Chances of either dont seem to be too great at the moment…although i reckon option 1 is the best

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.01.16 16:09:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : but they just started a pro league, did they not?

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.01.16 16:46:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • Great now Japan and USA can beat us? Any news on who the springbok coach will be? I hope we have more options than coetzee and Meyer.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.01.16 16:50:19 by coolfusion Reply

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  • OK so that puts an end to the “get Mitch shit going around”!!!!

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.01.16 17:43:34 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : @robdylan (Comment 11) : As I understand it from my mate:
    1. The pro tournament is starting in 2016. I think on the long run that will make a big difference for their rugby…
    2. College rugby is relatively big and growing in the US. There are well over 30 000 registered college rugby players, over 500 men’s college teams and it is growing fast. Most of the big colleges now have rugby teams. Since 2010 there has been a collegiate rugby championship that is also broadcast live on TV.
    3. Apparently schools are now also starting to invest in rugby big time…
    Sounds to me like they are getting all the basics in place to develop their rugby going forward. Let’s see how that goes.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.01.16 18:19:42 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 12) : Well we can expect Coetzee to get the nod. Targets have to be met, and they supersede actually winning. The many that called for HM to be fired, have gotten their wish, now brace yourselves for a new coach, hat may not be appointed on his ability as coach, or track record.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.01.16 19:54:39 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 14) : they have plenty of money and people so if they decide to go for a sport they have all the chance in the world to be one of the top teams!!! All they need is the public to buy into it and seemingly they’re busy doing just that!! Also don’t forget the extra incentive of rugby 7′s being an Olympic sport!!!

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.01.16 20:14:36 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 14) : So called pro league will be semi pro at best. The problem is you are competing with a plethora of sports that are much more popular in the USA, Rugby is a somewhat fun distraction. Rugby will never compete with gridiron, ice hockey, basketball, baseball, athletics, and even soccer when it comes to decisions made by the best athletes. Most universities have had teams for decades, they are almost all club teams and not supported by the universities (except for a few). An incredibly small number of high schools offer rugby as an option, so for a vast majority of rugby players, their first introduction to the sport is when they go to university. I just don’t see the USA ever being successful on the international rugby stage. My opinion.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.01.16 01:50:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : what changed is that rugby 7′s is now an Olympic sport. That will ensure some funding.

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.01.16 05:38:53 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 14) : If the Pro league is finally sorted that will be good. last time i heard there were still major issues as hardly any of the teams currently playing in the Union comps were included etc. I have heard that some colleges have sides but its mostly the Gridiron rejects that play. The issue with rugby is that there is only a 10min halftime where you can show adverts…so compared to other US sports it doesnt sit favourably with sponsors

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.01.16 07:53:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 18) : Funding for the 7s program will be very different to funding for the 15 man game. As far as i believe Mitchell is only coaching the 15man side. The 7s will fall under the USA olympic program and funding allocated accordingly.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.01.16 07:55:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : @SheldonK (Comment 20) : Ja that’s true but think 15′s will get more exposure as a result of 7′s inclusion in the Olympics.

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.01.16 08:04:52 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 21) : Perhaps as a knock on effect. I feel it could go the other way where 7s is the major draw card and 15s the minor sport

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.01.16 08:12:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 22) : yes 7′s will probably be the bigger sport in USA but 15′s should get way more exposure.
    Remember players can now play in the Olympics so this will draw more players, players that could have made it big in Gridiron. So rugby should move away from being a sport for Gridiron rejects to a sport that could give you a medal at the Olympics.

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.01.16 08:45:35 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 23) : I do get what you are saying. I just think that guys will want to play 7s but not necessarily 15s. Rugby has an incredibly long way to go to lure players away from Gridiron…there is just too much money and bursaries etc involved there. I think if anything you will see more guys opt to specialise at 7s and play 15s part time..not just in the USA but all over

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.01.16 08:59:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 24) : yes I know there’s lots of money involved but Gridiron can’t give you an Olympic medal!
    Players specialise in 7′s and becoming stars playing 15′s part-time will give more exposure to 15′s.
    If USA win a medal for 7′s I do think that will bring in a lot more money for rugby in the USA.

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.01.16 09:14:40 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 25) : Look i do hope the sport grows there..but its a very different market there. Especially when it comes to sport

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.01.16 09:37:34 by SheldonK Reply

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  • It burns my arse to see a coach of this calibre who was sitting twiddling his thumbs in Pietermaritzburg snapped up by the U.S.A. while we have invested our future in dodgy Gary Gold.
    I hope Mitch has huge success with the Eagles,he is too fine a coach to be sitting on the sidelines because the insecure management structures and pampered players in South Africa were terrified of him.
    Rugby needs the John Mitchells of this world and a big up to the U.S for giving him a chance.
    The U.S is a good place for him he will immediately be the main bull in the kraal and be able to stamp his authority on a virtually blank canvas .
    No sensitive players feelings to have to consider and carte blanche to pick the very best players to play his brand of rugby.
    I just hope all his detractors inhere remember in a years time that he could have been ours.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.01.16 09:39:05 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 27) : I do wish him well and good luck- he is going to need it there! Am i upset he isnt the Sharks coach…not really. There are others id prefer to him…especially at his wage cost etc

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.01.16 09:55:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : imo if gridiron was never invented then usa would have been most dominant team in world rugby.nz, sa and the rest of the world competing for 2nd place.the us dollar might even have been drawing the polynesian players (add their universities into the mix re: recruiting) that have been playing for the nz teams.(there is also an american samoa).

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.01.16 10:05:56 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : Each to his own,but a John Mitchell,Robert du Preez combination would be about as high on my wish list as you could go.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.01.16 10:06:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : That could get feisty as both like their own way. Great if their ideas match but if they dont….well guess its entertainment. I just have this feeling that an Aussie would fit better in the SA environment than a New Zealander…just think the SA and OZ way of life etc if a lot similar. But then again suppose it depends on the individuals

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.01.16 10:12:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 27) : I second that !

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.01.16 16:36:36 by grant10 Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : I would have become a Sharks supporter if that happened….so sick of the soft players in this country! Cry babies !

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.01.16 16:37:31 by grant10 Reply

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  • Interesting thoughts above…many very valid points…I will be keeping an interested eye developments there…

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.01.16 17:53:38 by pastorshark Reply
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