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Shocking development as SA Rugby’s turkeys again vote against Christmas


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Super Rugby on 18 Jan 2016 at 11:02
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Oh, this one is just too good to be true! According to one of the Afrikaans papers, three of South African rugby’s “bigger smaller” unions came up with an audacious plan to secure top-flight Currie Cup rugby for themselves later in the year. Surprisingly enough, the suggestion was not accepted by the remaining “smaller smaller” unions (otherwise known as the very long and rather meaningless tail that time and again manages to wag the SARU dog).

The backdrop is this – South Africa, somehow, now has six Super Rugby franchises in a bloated competition format that appears to guarantee nothing other than lowered standards all round. With depth and player quality an issue across most of those franchises (but particularly the Kings, who at last count only had about 20 players in their squad), there’s plenty of last-minute horse-trading going on. Coaches and Directors of Rugby are desperate to pick up a couple of decent players to patch up the gaps in their rosters and the smaller unions – particular the stronger ones like Griquas, the Pumas and the Leopards – are the obvious place to look for a bargain.

However, SARU (in their seemingly infallible wisdom) have just created yet another competition that will run concurrently to Super Rugby, one that means little to those teams who already have Super Rugby franchises (and hence automatic Currie Cup Premier League participation), while at the same time being hugely, vitally, indescribably important to all the others, including the “bigger smaller” teams already named. It doesn’t take much of a genius to figure out that, with three further Premier Division places up for grabs, it’s the Pumas, Leopards and Griquas who are most likely to progress, since they are significantly stronger than any of the other chaff. Why we need to play a 14-round competition to figure this out is a question only SARU can answer.

In fact, about the only thing that can really level the playing fields here would be if the squads of those stronger teams were somehow weakened, say by loaning out all their top players to Super Rugby franchises. And that’s exactly what they’ve realised too, hence the generous “offer” put forward that they would be prepared to loan players out to whichever Super Rugby franchise needed them, in return for automatic qualification for the Premier Division later in the year. The “medium size three” benefit, the “big six” benefit, arguably South African rugby and the Springboks benefit, so seems a decent idea.

Except, of course, that the “little six” don’t benefit and hence the plan was voted down. Once again, the needs of those mighty powerhouses, the Valke, Boland, Border, Northern Free State and the others that I can’t even remember, come ahead of everybody else and as a result, a bunch of potentially very good players from the Pumas, Griquas and Leopards who could and should be bulking out Super Rugby squads will instead be playing Currie Cup Qualifying rugby.

Go turkeys go…. Gobble gobble.



58 Comments

  • SO sick of SA Sport and its moronic management it’s not even funny.

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.01.16 11:08:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 1) : Agreed, sport on general is a joke in SA right now. Politics, greed, short sightedness….these are the things driving our sport right now.

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.01.16 11:11:12 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Everyone wants their piece of the pie no matter what….
    Until such time as the smaller Unions are under the jurisdiction of the larger Franchise’s SA rugby will continue to fight against itseelf

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.01.16 11:21:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Here’s an idea, scrap the entire archaic notion of rugby unions. It’s a relic of a very different, very amateur era. Let those who can support themselves become franchises, let the franchises play Currie Cup, with the top 6 ( :roll: ) playing Super Rugby. Those who can’t support themselves in the professional era merge with one of the franchises. All the money SARU saves by no longer having to help 7 unions pretend they are professional can be used to boost club rugby and/or start a central contracting process to keep our Boks at home.

    The players have been professional for 20+ years now, it’s time the administration does too

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.01.16 11:31:47 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) : Yup

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.01.16 11:31:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • What was it I said in another thread? Something like: I don’t think that SARU’s priorities are actually in the best interests of SA Rugby…
    I present Exhibit (what is it now?) X…
    *sigh*

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.01.16 12:14:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The smaller unions need to eat too. The proposed plan wouldn’t benefit them at all they players would effectively be playing for nothing. No way up not even hope, the players would leave those unions.

    SA rugby needs to take the step of making the bigger unions actually partner with these guys that way everybody benefits

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.01.16 12:39:24 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 7) : yes they must eat as well but you can only eat what you want to eat if you are able to put the food on the table!!!! If you can’t then you must shut up and be grateful for what you get!!!!!!!!! Currently the problem is SARU is run by the teams that brings almost nothing to the table and the big teams with support and money who must carry the name SA and SARU against overseas teams must just do as they decide!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.01.16 14:31:36 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 8) : I understand what you are trying to say but giving garanteed spots to teams will only fuel complancency. And the teams that know are not going to be promoted no matter how hard they work will lose the few good players they have. You might aswell turn them to clubs and let them compete with the likes of rovers and old boys rfc

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.01.16 14:54:40 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 9) : yes that’s true but now good players that can make a name for themselves by playing rugby on a world stage will be forced to play in a meaningless competition and that’s also not fair towards them. What is going to happen is the big teams will just sign all the quality players as all the talented player will not easily renew their contract with the smaller teams as with them they will have zero chance of playing Super rugby. This whole qualifying competition is ridicules as six of the teams will in any case be guaranteed spots in the top division. Why not just play promotion relegation games like they did in the past? It’s a system that works everywhere but no SARU must be different!!!!!!

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.01.16 15:05:37 by JD Reply
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  • And we wonder why new Zealand always manages to stay one step ahead in form and fitness. …

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.01.16 15:09:09 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 11) : And combos and tested players and selectable players…etc etc. Springbok rugby has an uphill battle every year because of its own government crippling club level.

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.01.16 15:13:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 10) : how did it work in the past? I only started watching rugby in 2006 when I was 16.

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.01.16 15:27:57 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 9) : sounds a lot like the Kings dont you think ?

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.01.16 15:35:01 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 13) : the bottom team in the top division played home and away games against the top team in the second division. the team with the most log points or biggest points difference (calculated in the two games) then got the place in the top division and the other team played in the second division. Easy everyone know you had to work for a whole season to get your chance.

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.01.16 15:36:57 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 10) : Lions already secured the services of 3 pumas players and 1 Leopard player

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.01.16 15:38:54 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 14) : the kings are a whole different beast and talking about them tends to lead to things that are banned here so maybe talk another time. There are no easy answers for any of this what is clearly lacking in our leadership is common sense and a big diisconnect from us the supporters and them the leaders

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.01.16 15:39:14 by Poisy Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 15) : no I already knew that. I ment for super rugby

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.01.16 15:40:48 by Poisy Reply
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  • We don’t have enough Superugby quality players to fill 6 squads. The guys from Pumas, Griekwas and Leopards who don’t have deals with Superugby teams already are just stop-gaps

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.01.16 15:56:17 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 16) : who?

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.01.16 15:58:05 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 18) : o sorry. Originally the franchises were regional teams: Bulls with Valke/Pumas, Sharks with EP/Border, Stormers with Eagles/Boland, Cats (Cheetahs and Lions) with Griffons/Griekwas. If I remember correctly when SA were allocated a 5th team the teams had to place a bid as to why they must have the franchise. It was awarded on funds, players, spectator base, etc and the five franchises were awarded to the Bulls, Sharks, Stormers, Lions and Cheetahs with EP losing out on a spot.

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.01.16 15:59:54 by JD Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 16) : that is exactly what will happen if they can’t play Super rugby whilst contracted to the smaller unions!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.01.16 16:01:26 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 20) : leopards player is robert kruger.

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.01.16 16:03:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 18) : @JD (Comment 21) : before 2000 the top 4 teams in the cc played super rugby the following year

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.01.16 16:13:42 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 23) : ok 2 then . we also got the scrummie that played a few games for the Lions in 2015 sr . cant rememeber his name now .

    and faf , corne fourie and JW bell from the pumas

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.01.16 16:15:57 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 25) : Dillon Smit . there she is

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.01.16 16:20:05 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 24) : ja that’s how it started with the top teams of Currie cup playing in Super rugby but then it changed to regional teams.

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.01.16 16:44:29 by JD Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 25) : a lot more players will follow is they can’t play Super rugby whilst contracted to smaller teams!!!!

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.01.16 16:45:49 by JD Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 25) : chris cloete?

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.01.16 16:52:01 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 21) : okay thanks

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.01.16 17:15:22 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 30) : ja boet we old people must maar help you lot youngsters! ;-P

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.01.16 17:25:17 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 31) : Just an aside I know you were looking into Internet TV. Netflix has started banning vpn’s for some silly reason. Mayne they don’t like money?

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.01.16 18:10:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 32) : thanks ja was looking at it but don’t think I will go that way will maar be stuck with DSTV.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.01.16 19:16:02 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 31) : lol :razz: you old farts are the reason everything is so messed up :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.01.16 19:22:46 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : ja blame me for everything my wife already does!!! Hahaha

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.01.16 20:09:24 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 32) : That rumor is false. I think DSTV started it because people are leaving left and right. :grin: Netflix stated that they don’t know where the rumor came from, but they won’t be doing anything differently. Basically the minimum required by law. ;-)

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.01.16 08:04:17 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • Stuart Lancaster assisting Stormers Coaches…I am not sure for how long or in what capacity.

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.01.16 08:16:51 by grant10 Reply

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  • On another sad note R.I.P Glenn Fry,the man who supplied the soundtrack to such a huge part of my life.
    I was blessed to have met him in Cape Town,and watched him play on a couple of occasions.
    67 is so young.
    These lyrics from Jackson’s Brown’s To a Dancer seem very real today.

    I don’t know what happens when people die
    Can’t seem to grasp it as hard as I try
    It’s like a song I can hear playing right in my ear
    That I can’t sing
    I can’t help listening
    And I can’t help feeling stupid standing ’round
    Crying as they ease you down
    ‘Cause I know that you’d rather we were dancing
    Dancing our sorrow away
    (Right on dancing)
    No matter what fate chooses to play
    (There’s nothing you can do about it anyway)

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.01.16 08:27:06 by The hound Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 29) : he is contracted to the Pumas so i assume that is where he will play

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.01.16 08:27:56 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 29) : Just contracted to the Kings….and Stormers dont have 1 fetcher in squad….go figure

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.01.16 09:12:49 by grant10 Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 39) : Nope….Kings for superrugby….

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.01.16 09:13:13 by grant10 Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : sad news indeed!!!

  • Comment 42, posted at 19.01.16 09:20:46 by JD Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 40) : good addition to the kings squad.

  • Comment 43, posted at 19.01.16 09:48:25 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @grant10 (Comment 41) : ah yes . just saw that news . thanks

  • Comment 44, posted at 19.01.16 09:50:56 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : Eagles?

  • Comment 45, posted at 19.01.16 10:11:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 45) : Sadly yes,I have listened , played,watched, performed a lot of music in my life,sober or stoned for me the music of Glenn Fry and Don Henley was the very best.

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.01.16 10:29:56 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 46) : that makes me sad.

    One of my favourite lines, ever…. “take it easy, don’t let the sound of your own wheels make you crazy”

    one of those lyrics that is just so damn applicable to my life.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.01.16 10:41:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 46) : performed? You a musician?

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.01.16 10:41:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : Nothing to write home about,but I walked into Glenn Fry at the Waterfront in Cape Town when they played here.
    Went down for the concert,and was sitting in a restaurant as he walked in,I immediately had this feeling I knew him,he looked like an ex Durban surfer,could have been one of 100 guys I knew.
    He could see I was battling to place him and he came over and said to me ”Don’t remember where you know me from do you”
    I knew immediately then who he was ,and spent the next most surreal15 minutes of my life talking to him,he was just such a genuinely cool guy,and a huge star.

  • Comment 49, posted at 19.01.16 10:54:45 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : Can we look forward to The Hound live in Concert on the Kings park outer fields this year??

  • Comment 50, posted at 19.01.16 11:08:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • been there done that got the T Shirt ,,

  • Comment 51, posted at 19.01.16 11:23:06 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 51) : don’t believe you until you show us the T shirt! :twisted:

  • Comment 52, posted at 19.01.16 11:44:30 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : some people are just awesome and fame doe not change them!!!!!!!!! Especially great if you meet a huge star that you like and find out he’s one of those special people that did not change!

  • Comment 53, posted at 19.01.16 11:47:38 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : @The hound (Comment 49) : maybe time for the two of you to do a duet concert. We can call it SharksAid?!?!?!

  • Comment 54, posted at 19.01.16 11:48:45 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : @The hound (Comment 49) : @JD (Comment 54) : I suggest they do a cover of “Ebony and Ivory” as their first song :grin:

  • Comment 55, posted at 19.01.16 13:08:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 55) : and ending of with “trein na Pretoria”? :twisted:

  • Comment 56, posted at 19.01.16 14:18:32 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : Sad news…

  • Comment 57, posted at 19.01.16 16:26:56 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : Wow, incredible story! Lucky man…

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