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Fab Five to return next week


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 22 Jan 2016 at 10:40
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Here’s a little good news (even if not exactly unexpected)…. the five Japanese-based Sharks Super Rugby players are due to return to South Africa next week, on completion of the revised Japanese season.

In the past,t here’s always been an overlap, meaning arrivals from Japan have typically only happened late in February or even early in March, after the Super Rugby competition has begun. One good consequence of the Sunwolves’ inclusion seems to be a re-jig of the Japanese calendar, meaning all teams end their season well in time for the start of Super Rugby.

Renaldo Bothma, Marcell Coetzee, Jacques Potgieter, JP Pietersen and Willie le Roux will thus all enjoy a good month of training with their team mates ahead of the first game against the Kings on February 27. Missing nearly three months of pre-season is, of course, not ideal, but this is a huge improvement on the way things were, all the same.



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  • Hopefully Japan has kept them fit enough that they will not be lacking after missing the pre season work.
    A month is definitely better than what it has been.

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.01.16 10:43:24 by Seth101 Reply
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  • I think this might see more players doing this. :|

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.01.16 10:46:12 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 2) : Can you blame them? I don’t

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.01.16 10:51:17 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Im interested to see what kind of form Renaldo Bothma produces as his RWC was pretty poor. I think he is a better player than just a basher so hopefully the other skillfull loosies we have push him to up his game in that way.

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.01.16 11:01:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 3) : Think the Sharks will do good to employ Mr Miyagi in Japan to keep the conditioned and in tip top shap

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.01.16 11:03:07 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 5) : Some good old wax on, wax off always does the trick. ;-)

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.01.16 11:06:22 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 2) : only 2 foreign born players per team allowed on the field at a time.8 teams in the japanese league.

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.01.16 11:18:27 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 3) : No I would too. :smile: @50shadesofshark (Comment 7) : Did not know that. Does it however stop them from having more in their squad?

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.01.16 11:22:21 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 8) : how many foreign based players will a team contract if only 2 allowed per time on the field?another 2 on the bench?not only sa players looking for contracts in japan.aus,kiwi and pacific islanders.

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.01.16 11:26:38 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 9) : There seems to be a lot more than 16 foreign players in the Jap league though. You sure its only 2?

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.01.16 11:33:50 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 7) : Is that only 2 foreign players on the field at a time or is it only in the match day squad?

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.01.16 11:34:41 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 11) : @SheldonK (Comment 10) : only 2 foreign born players per team allowed on the field at a time.

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.01.16 11:45:23 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 11) : 2 foreign born players on the bench to replace the 2 foreign born players on the field? 4 in a match day team of 23?

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.01.16 11:48:14 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 12) : There is very little info about it but yeh that does seem to be the case. The team squads must be fairly large though when i try think of all the players playing in Japan. I mean just off the top of my head thinking of the SA Guys: Marcel Coetzee, Renaldo Bothma, Willie Leroux, Jaques Potgieter, JPP Pieterson, Andries Bekker, Jaque Fourie, Fourie DuPreez, Schalk Burger, Eben Etzebeth, Damien DeAllende, Heinrich Brussouw, Riaan Viljoen

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.01.16 11:54:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : could that perhaps not change with a shortened japanese league season?which will lead to players then chasing the euro/pound rather than yen?and in so doing be lost for any sa sr team?this is not an ideal situation but it is much better than losing players to long-term contracts to the european teams.

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.01.16 12:02:21 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Interesting note… Chelsea has a medical team that keeps an eye on fitness, injuries etc of players they’ve loaned out to other clubs. Obviously not on that scale, but I’m sure having a guy in Japan to keep tabs on our guys won’t be a terrible move…

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.01.16 12:07:06 by the ko Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 15) : Ah tough to say really. Remember barring France other Euro teams have salary caps etc. The Jap league is seen as a bit easier on the body as due to restrictions you dont play every week etc. There will come a point where the leagues become saturated though and you will see less movement abroad i believe. I reckon by the time the next RWC rolls around there will be far less movement purely as there wont be space abroad

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.01.16 12:13:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @the ko (Comment 16) : Im sure the Sharks do keep tabs on their guys abroad. I mean they are contracted so effectively are the Sharks assets. Not much they can do to prevent injury though and obviously cant influence fatigue or form however. Best case scenario is getting updates on the players health stats and fitness results

  • Comment 18, posted at 22.01.16 12:16:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : @Henkb (Comment 11) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 13) : that’s correct only two foreign players allowed on the field at a time so 2 on the field and 2 on the bench but most teams have more than 4 foreign players in their broader squad. Also remember as soon as a player played for their national team he is not seen as a foreign player anymore, so players like Michael Leitch does not count as a foreign player.

  • Comment 19, posted at 22.01.16 13:46:13 by JD Reply
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  • That us good news. I am quite keen to see how Jaques P steps back into his SA shoes.

  • Comment 20, posted at 22.01.16 14:04:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 19) : seems as if one player from an asian rugby union country per team also allowed.at a time.2 players foreign born,one naturalized foreign born,and one from an asian ru country.4 non-japanese born per team on the field.not counting the bench.

  • Comment 21, posted at 22.01.16 14:24:21 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : i made a mistake.there is not 8 but 16 teams in the japanese top league.

  • Comment 22, posted at 22.01.16 14:30:57 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : Frans Steyn also there, JPP and FS playing against each other this weekend in the final

  • Comment 23, posted at 22.01.16 15:07:44 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : Ah ok that would make sense then with all the foreigners. So 16 teams with say 8 foreigners each. Thats 128 guys. Sounds like a lot but there is only space for that many not continually more and more

  • Comment 24, posted at 22.01.16 15:08:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 23) : Ya flip forgot about Frans. He is in the side coached by Stonehouse

  • Comment 25, posted at 22.01.16 15:09:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 23) : elton jantjes.keegan daniel.

  • Comment 26, posted at 22.01.16 15:49:02 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan: any idea when richard kahui will be joining the sharks? :D

  • Comment 27, posted at 22.01.16 15:54:29 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : hahaha talk about crazy optimism

  • Comment 28, posted at 22.01.16 15:59:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 20) : I hope he has not forgotten all the lessons he learned at the Waratahs.

  • Comment 29, posted at 22.01.16 16:51:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 29) : Ja that’s why I made the comment. Let’s hope he can use the spaces and not revert to SA brand bash em up.

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.01.16 16:57:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : :D

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.01.16 17:27:12 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : I believe on the 32nd of Nevuary

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.01.16 17:50:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.01.16 17:51:16 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : at least we now have a date!!!!!

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.01.16 18:27:18 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 32) : thanks!:D

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.01.16 19:11:23 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 34) : :D

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.01.16 19:12:05 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • I see that JPP made it into the Japan Top League team of the season…

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.01.16 20:10:50 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 37) : by all accounts he had a very good season in Japan and he should have as he started to find his old form during World cup.

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.01.16 23:27:32 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 37) : @JD (Comment 38) : Yeh i saw that…he has played all season at 13 though. Watched him a few times and always broke the line…just needs to get his wing away after breaking that line now

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.01.16 08:42:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 39) : Yup…looked good in the games that I saw. Maybe he is an option at 13 for us after all…

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.01.16 09:20:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 40) : I think so. I can also think of a lot of guys that would be easier to defend against in that 13 channel than JPP.

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.01.16 09:39:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 40) : @SheldonK (Comment 41) : yes and can’t see to many people eager to run at him as he’s not a bad defender either. Might be a very good option at 13 with Jordaan and Sithole moving to wing?!?!

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.01.16 10:05:30 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : @JD (Comment 42) : Yup…he just wasn’t very good in the last Super Rugby season, whether at centre or wing. I’m looking forward to seeing how he goes in 2016…

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.01.16 10:16:45 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 43) : @JD (Comment 42) : I think JPP last year was solid abut unspectacular and yes probably a bit off form. It happens. Especially in an under performing team. Hopefully this year he returns in some good form. Id be happy with Mvovo,Jordaan, Sithole, Mjekevu as our wing options

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.01.16 10:20:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 44) : Sure…

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.01.16 10:28:22 by pastorshark Reply
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