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Five things to learn from Toulon fling


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 5 Feb 2016 at 10:23
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Obviously, tonight’s first competitive hit-out of the season will be interesting on many level and nobody really knows what to expect. With the result obviously meaningless, Gary Gold and his team will instead have a list of specific factors that they’re looking at as they seek to gauge just how ready this team is for Super Rugby later in the month.

Here are the things that I’d want to look at if I were sitting in Gold’s shoes:

Coenie Oosthuizen. A lot has been said about whether he should really be playing tighthead. For the Sharks, that’s where he’s needed and he really has to come through. Toulon probably won’t be at their very best with Matt Stevens in the front row, but all the same, a French side will always give you a strong indication of how good your scrummaging game is and Coenie will, of course, have his credentials in that number 3 shirt thoroughly tested.

Are the du Preex boys ready? Injury and Japanese disruption have suddenly thrust Jean-Luc du Preez and brother Daniel into the spotlight. There’s a reasonable chance that one or both may have to start the season and the coaches will need to see if they’re ready for rugby at this level.

Lineouts. Kyle Cooper hasn’t really had a lot of regular rugby over the last year and his lineout work appears to have suffered. With new man ruan Botha in the mix, there’s also plenty of “settling in to do”. The Sharks will have a very tall pack with the du Preez boys at 7 and 8, but will this translate to lineout supremacy?

Reinach/Lambie. These men have combined well in the past, but on last year’s evidence, Michael Claassens was the form scrumhalf in Durban. Can Reinach get the best out of captain Lambie? This match will start to answer that question and we will hopefully see Robert du Preez’s influence on the young scrumhalf coming to the fore.

The midfield. While both wonderfully talented players, Andre Esterhuizen and Paul Jordaan both have rather worrying technical deficiencies to their game, which need to be ironed out. That work will have been ongoing throughout pre-season and tonight will be a golden opportunity to see whether we genuinely have the right first-choice centre pairing identified.



34 Comments

  • Some very good points. Would love to see how the lock combination goes!!!!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.02.16 10:29:02 by JD Reply
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  • There are also a lot of new players, mainly on the bench, who will have to show they have what it takes with they come on. Hyron Andrews, Garth April and Johan Deysel are who I am most interested in. Hopefully they get a decent amount of game time.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.02.16 10:29:48 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Posted this in the previous thread before seeing this one (oops)

    So gentle-men and women of Sharksworld, while the score is probably of less significance, what are the areas of the game you’ll be watching closely tonight?

    For me, match fitness can’t be accurately gauged in a warm-up game and I doubt every pass will go to hand but I’m hoping to see some sort of structure and plan when it comes to defence. I don’t expect a final product but hope to catch a glimpse of the direction we’re heading in.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.02.16 10:38:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 3) : Defense will be a big thing to watch, as will set piece play, both should have been worked on in the off season.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.02.16 10:40:26 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Is Marius Louw part of the Super Rugby squad. I haven’t seen his name around. He seemed to have a good 2015 and was hoping to see him a little this year, or is the idea to blood him in the Currie Cup?

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.02.16 10:43:17 by Hulk Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 3) : I’m hoping to see some kind of plan on attack, not bash bash and some organised defence.

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.02.16 10:45:51 by Hulk Reply

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  • The main thing to come out of tonight is the revealing of this seasons game plan.
    Quite frankly last season we never really had one,my hope is that Patrick has been chosen to play what is in front of him and that the team has been chosen to allow him to do it.To that extent I pray that Reinarch is under instructions to allow Pat to be the play maker,and limits his lust for self glory to the times he has a genuine opportunity to do so.The quicker he gets the ball to Pat the sooner ,Pat can unleash those deadly centres.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.02.16 11:00:57 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 7) : can’t agree with you more!!! I know planned moves are called and I’m not against that but I hate it if players is put in such a box that even if they can see the move will not work that they’re not allowed to chance and just play what’s in front of them (geez I’ve seen players pass a ball with a mile wide gap in front of them just because in the planned move they must pass the ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.02.16 11:08:06 by JD Reply
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  • For me i like to see that the foundation is solid before i start hanging fancy paintings. So Kickoff receive, scrums, lineouts and defense line speed is what im looking for. I think if thats in place there are talented players to take advantage of the rest

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.02.16 11:12:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 7) : I think we sometimes use the term ” play is in front of you” without fully understanding what it entails. For me it’s about having a playmaker and giving him options. So the coaching is on the support players, they need to be able to put themselves in positions that bring doubt to the option defences. The play maker then out of say 4 options, will take option he best sees fit. Difficult to play what is in front of you if you don’t have options.

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.02.16 14:10:23 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 10) : I like that comment

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.02.16 14:17:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 10) : it’s fine to call planed moves but if something change the playmaker(s) must have the freedom to adapt, however sometimes they will stick to the move even if you put the next player under huge pressure!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.02.16 14:42:35 by JD Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 10) : I thought that is what I said.I do understand the term,playing what is in front of you,but thanks for the lesson anyway.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.02.16 16:03:29 by The hound Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 3) : I will be looking for the team dynamic. The most successful defences, come from teams that have “gees” and play for each other. I want to see players hitting rucks hard because they want to protect their teammates. I firmly believe this dynamic has been sorely lacking in 2015.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.02.16 16:26:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 14) : Agreed

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.02.16 16:48:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : There was no malice intended. Want us to be fair to play makers and force coaches to coach.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.02.16 17:26:35 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I have my craft beers all lined up and I am ready! A bit of prime beer tonight should be the prime preparation for my mudman triathlon tomorrow… :lol: I only hope I don’t die!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.02.16 17:27:57 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) : That’s pretty much what I’m looking for too…

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.02.16 17:32:35 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 10) : Very good comment…

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.02.16 17:33:40 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 14) : Same here. And also want to see the work ethic. Last year we had some very lazy passengers and some guys who had to run at almost 100% to compensate.

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.02.16 18:06:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 8) : Sorry for you both but Cobus pays very little mind to such instructions. A bit like Fourie du preez he takes it on himself to create and save every opportunity. This is why Paige and Faf made him look like a clown last year. Simple efficient service is not in his vocabulary. I hope he proves me wrong but I think it’s more an ego thing than a training thing.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.02.16 18:10:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 10) : options player can take is also closely related to individual player’s skillset.here I am specifically thinking about passing (left and right,different types of passes and timing of the pass )skills.then contact skills and presenting the ball to support players.then the support players must be able to catch ,or secure possession at the breakdown.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.02.16 18:40:13 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 17) : brilliant!!all the best for tomorrow’s tri !!

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.02.16 18:41:29 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 12) : maybe this is where the difference in players re: decision-making/reading the play is shown?

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.02.16 18:48:36 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 23) : Thanks! I wouldn’t want to drown on my birthday… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.02.16 18:53:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • In general I don’t expect too much from pre-season games. The quality is often not that inspiring. But I am very excited to be watching the Sharks again. I am looking for the basics in the set pieces and defense to be solid…and for a bit of adventure on attack…

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.02.16 19:08:37 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 25) : let me wish you an early happy birthday!may you have a wonderful day and new year.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.02.16 19:09:32 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 5) : saw marius louw play for the impi vs wits this past monday.and that is a very important competition not just for the impi but also the sharks.there will be automatic promotion to the varsity cup for next season.

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.02.16 19:24:59 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : Thanks!

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.02.16 19:32:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 28) : Yup…the Impi need him…and I think it is sensible for his own development that he plays that competition, then plays the Currie Cup qualifying competition before taking the step up…

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.02.16 19:34:12 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 19) : Thanks.

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.02.16 22:09:40 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • 4 out of 5 checked (and checked very well). Not bad at all. Coenie the only box left un-ticked…

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.02.16 23:52:02 by T-Shark Reply

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  • @T-Shark (Comment 32) : Coenie was really good in general play…in some scrums he was in a good position and was solid and even dominant…however he was too often in a bad position and got either turned or crunched! I reckon he will improve…remember that he has played very little rugby in the last year. It was good to see Adriaanse be very solid in the two scrums on our own line right at the end there…

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.02.16 00:04:35 by pastorshark Reply
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  • So to roundup from what he learned based on the article: 1. Coenie is good when he concentrates and horrible when he doesnt. 2. DuPreez boys are definitely ready and have added some nice link play to their game. 3. Lineouts are a big problem currently. 4. Reinach/Lambie controlled the game well…however when Lambie went off the team lacked direction. 5. The starting midfield and the replacement combo looked good

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.02.16 14:51:26 by SheldonK Reply

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