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The Boks need a coach!


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 2 Mar 2016 at 10:17
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Hi Bok fans. While Super Rugby has been dominating the headlines, and quite rightly so, after a marvellous opening weekend, I think it’s time to turn our focus to the Boks for a bit.

2015 was a terrible year for our beloved Bokke, with Heyneke Meyer losing it in spectacular fashion and reverting to an unattractive, unimaginative, archaic brand of rugby, a brand which saw the Boks embarrassingly lose to Japan and bow out in the semis to a dominant New Zealand side who, despite the close margin of the final score, never looked like losing.

Fast forward to December and Meyer fell on his sword and resigned, before being bodily impaled on the jolly thing by us Bok fans. SARU issued a statement that a suitable replacement would be found and that only top candidates would be considered. The announcement would be made in January. Allister Coetzee, the former Stormers coach, was installed by the media as favourite to replace Meyer as Bok coach.

January eventually rolled around and all of a sudden SARU were announcing that the post would no longer be advertised, we would have to wait for March to hear who the new coach was and that Jurie Roux would head up the committee to appoint the coach. Allister Coetzee was reported to have taken his name out of the running to be Bok coach and Rassie Erasmus was being widely tipped tipped to take over the Bok coaching job, on an interim basis, for the Ireland Tour of South Africa.

Then came the Jurie Roux Saga, another embarrassing chapter in the book that is SARU, and all of a sudden Jurie Roux was replaced by Oregan Hoskins as chairman of the committee to select the Boks.

The latest developments are, for me personally, very sad. Rassie Erasmus has stood himself down from selection as Bok coach and, even more distressing, has apparently decided to leave SARU altogether. This is a terrible loss for Bok rugby as Rassie is considered to be one of the great thinkers of the world game and will take with him a lot of intellectual property and experience. The reasons behind his departure are said to be the political infighting between the union presidents as well as the continual controversies surrounding the Jurie Roux Saga.

On top of that Nick Mallett has said he would not like to be considered for the position of Selector for the Bok team. Yet again, this is an enormous blow for Bok rugby, with anyone of actual worth distancing themselves as far as possible from a brand which is supposed to be amongst the top in the world.

I find it interesting that Rassie is not interested in taking on the Bok job, even for the reported R5 million per year Meyer was offered to renew his contract with the Boks before the World Cup. This tells me that he knows something we don’t know and that there is more to come from SARU before this whole mess is cleared up.

The summary of all of this is that the Bok coaching shortlist has now been whittled down to the following:

Allister Coetzee

If that doesn’t leave you with chills and a sense of foreboding, then I don’t know what will. I personally think it’s time we thought out the box, got a foreign coach in, shook things up a bit, but the realist in me knows that this will never happen.

Let’s just sit back, relax, enjoy the Sharks games, and watch the drama unfold.



53 Comments

  • No one want’s to coach the Boks in the current environment…. absolute shocker, not.

    “got a foreign coach in” Which foreign coach in his right mind would come coach in South Africa? Hell even in his wrong mind with a check in front of his eyes covered in 000000s would most likely say no.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.03.16 10:21:17 by Seth101 Reply
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  • As I understand it, based on media reports which are not much to go on admittedly, Rassie wants to leave due to meddling from Hoskins (and infighting between Hoskins and union presidents), not because of the Jurie Roux controversy. Rassie leaving SARU would be a monumental setback and whatever the reasons are, SARU needs to fix it.

    Nick Mallet not wanting to be a Bok selector is because of his personal belief that the coach should pick the team and not selectors. He has voiced that in the past too so that’s just him being consistent.

    I don’t think it matters who is made Bok coach, they’re being setup for failure with the way things are going.

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.03.16 10:36:46 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Boo hoo I have never understood the hype of rassie he has accomplished very little as a coach and I just can’t figure out why he is held so high by these so called experts of the game. Let him go overseas coach another team that won’t accomplish anything.
    Saru are just setting up the next coach to fail just so they can say this transformation thing is not working, bunch of sods nxa

    Liyofika ilanga iqiniso lizophuma,siyanibona!

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.03.16 10:48:04 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 3) : I love that expression :)

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.03.16 10:50:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Transformation has no downside, and that mentality is what is destroying South African sport. We have literally got to the point where the coach becomes the only ‘qualified’ player to run onto the field. What a joke.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.03.16 10:53:01 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Ah but wait there is more,where is Brendan Venter coaching defence this year.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.03.16 10:57:21 by The hound Reply
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  • Very concerning times for Bok rugby. This could be a new dawn with new exciting young players but if structures arent in place we are in for trouble. Ireland may not be over achieving in this years 6 Nations but i can bet you they will be targeting another Bok scalp in mid year.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.03.16 11:58:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • How in the name of all that is Holy did SA Rugby get to this point? I really think that my son and his Class R mates would do a better job running SARU. Do they even have a plan on where they going, (and don’t tell me yes they do and it’s DOWN).

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.03.16 11:59:50 by Farlington Reply

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  • I think there is more to the story of Rassie leaving SA and SARU altogether. He has been named in the Jurie Roux saga in more than one instance. He might be feeling the heat.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.03.16 12:04:54 by bokbok Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 6) : the same place he coached defence last year…. NOWHERE :)

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.03.16 12:21:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 3) : Morne has said many time on here how highly he rates Rassie – he should know working with him.

    Personally I don’t think Rassie would have made a great Bok coach – he seems to be much better at the backroom technical aspects of rugby. Him leaving SA Rugby would be a great loss.

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.03.16 12:49:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I still think Alistair teamed up with some really good foreign specialist assistant coaches could work quite well.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.03.16 12:51:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 11) : I agree, wasn’t crazy about the idea of him as Bok coach but he seems to be working towards something special as head of the High Performance unit.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.03.16 13:33:02 by vanmartin Reply
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  • This whole thing is becoming a joke!!!!

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.03.16 14:06:47 by JD Reply
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  • Even if they elect a head coach in March whose going to be his assistants. Everyone is contracted so he’ll have to get 2nd or 3rd choice assistants. Maybe get PDV to be his assistant with the intention of him taking over in 4 years a la New Zealand :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.03.16 15:27:53 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 15) : it’s becoming a sad joke! Wonder if anyone is interested in the job?!?!

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.03.16 15:50:05 by JD Reply
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  • I’m sorry but I’m sick of the whole “as long as Toetie has excellent foreign assistants…” line of tripe. Why on earth should the Boks appoint a coach on this basis? Is he not good enough without excellent foreign assistants? That’s clearly the inference. So why appoint someone who’s not properly qualified or suitable in the first place?

    Sadly, the answer is because of the reasons we all are aware of, anyone better qualified will not touch the role with a barge pole and we’re left with the dregs.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.03.16 16:08:51 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • Coetzee’s team in Japan finished 4th in the Top League. Robbie Dean’s team won it. Let’s be honest here – Coetzee is a grafter but, just like Plumtree at the Sharks, he lacks that little extra to win at the highest level. In normal circumstances he wouldn’t even be considered for the Bok role.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.03.16 16:22:45 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 18) : sorry to say but I have to agree with you again. Don’t think AC is good enough but unfortunately I don’t see SARU appointing anyone else!

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.03.16 16:36:22 by JD Reply
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  • robbie deans did not do that well as aus head coach (expectations were high),but might he not fare better with the boks?could add that attacking dimension fans would like, and opposition hate, to boks game. plus a few years more experience?deans head coach and an sa asst coach?

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.03.16 17:01:51 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 20) : can’t see Deans going for Bokke coach. Think we will get stuck with AC.

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.03.16 17:30:09 by JD Reply
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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 17) : A head coach in SA (apart from dealing with the fans and journos) also needs to deal with interference from politicians. Any foreign coach worth his salt will rather take a high paying job in Japan before applying for the Bok job. Apart from Coetzee and possibly Ackermann which other SA coach at this stage could at least do some kind of decent job?

    Good assistant coaches are as vital as the head coach. Just look at the quality of HM’s assistants, and then look at the difference RdP and Mouneimne made to Gold’s coaching team.

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.03.16 17:51:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 22) : yes must say I also think the importance of good quality assistant coaches are very underrated in SA!

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.03.16 19:33:12 by JD Reply
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  • After decades of supporting the boks, I decided not to get behind them at last year’s World Cup because of HM. Now it seems Toetie will take charge, I’m sad to say that as of today I’m officially an Irish supporter… They may not be world beaters, but they play hard and do amazingly with what they have!

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.03.16 20:12:40 by the ko Reply

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  • Time to get rid of Hoskins and his cronies. Clean out there and hopefully v the entire structure can be saved.

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.03.16 20:20:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 25) : not a bad idea if the new guys are actually better at running rugby!

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.03.16 21:25:58 by JD Reply
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  • @the ko (Comment 24) : you see, I just cannot bring myself to support anyone else. I’d rather just not support anyone and take a passing interest in the Boks. When I’ve travelled to NZ in the past I was staggered by the number of ex Saffas who are more hardcore All Blacks and Crusaders fans than the Kiwis themselves (as if they feel to prove they’re proper supporters to the locals). I just can’t switch allegiance like some.

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.03.16 22:11:16 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • But I can see a day in the not too distant future when I will turn my back on the Boks and Proteas and any other team where winning is not the primary concern.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.03.16 22:12:34 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 28) : must say you’re feeling exactly like I do. Can’t see myself wearing another country’s jersey or for that matter another one than my beloved Sharks. I’d rather just lose interests like the 80% I already have lost in SA cricket as a whole!

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.03.16 01:55:06 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 29) : jislaaik you’re agreeing with me lot these days :mrgreen:

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.03.16 02:19:40 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 27) : I’m only supporting the Irish because I have Irish heritage… It still feels weird that I don’t support the boks, but I’m sure that will pass! I’m also not too sure that I’ll ever be a staunch IRL supporter like I was of sa. I just like the way they do things… We have a hundred national Rugby teams – u20, women, 7s, deaf, Boks etc. IRL have made the tough choice of only concentrating on their senior side and their u20 side, so as not to drain player resources and more importantly, finances…. Something saru might do well to learn to do

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.03.16 05:18:33 by the ko Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 26) : That’s how you find out.

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.03.16 06:50:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I find it pretty easy these days to support anyone but the Boks, every time they run onto the field all I feel is contempt. I think it comes with being young enough to have not spent a life time supporting them. Have only been a rugby fan for about 10 years, already spent 3 or 4 of those hating the political involvement in sport and by association every team that represents that.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.03.16 09:12:17 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Hmmmm methinks its getting to hot in the kitchen for Rassie and friends. These new feelings from Rassie just over a week after this was http://www.netwerk24.com/Nuus/Algemeen/jurie-se-man-skep-by-saru-20160220 published in Rapport.

    My take on it – Jurie Roux has his supporters within SARU management, Rassie is one of them and Hoskins is not. Hoskins is (finally) turning the screws on Roux and now things are getting unpleasant.

    Methinks this needs some thorough investigation.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.03.16 09:34:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 33) : As a person who has been a supporter for a little longer than that,I find it quite depressing that what should be one of the most coveted jobs in the world is nothing more than a poison chalice.
    I stand to be corrected but I think that after World Cup soccer and the Olympics,World Cup rugby is the third biggest sporting event in the world.
    We have a team that has won the thing twice in 6 attempts and we battle to find a coach willing to take this job on.
    For the future the sport need to sort this thing out quickly.
    We need someone at the helm who is bigger than the politics,rugby and racial,someone who takes the job determined to unite the entire rugby fraternity behind the team.Like the integrated multi cultural,multi racial,but so united All Blacks.
    Alistair Coetzee is not that person,Heyneke Meyer was not that person.
    May be we need someone from outside,Eddie Jones like,with a mandate to find and play the best rugby players in each position.
    I think we would all be amazed if the playing field was totally equal exactly who those players were,and just how multi racial that team would be.

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.03.16 09:51:11 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : The problem is the powers that be will specifically avoid hiring someone that would stand up to them. They want a lackey to serve their agenda, nothing more.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.03.16 10:03:11 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : won it twice and two narrow defeats in the semi’s to the eventual winners.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.03.16 10:20:29 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 33) : I find it harder having supported the Sharks and the Boks for the last 24 years lol

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.03.16 10:21:32 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 30) : hahaha I’m also starting to worry about that! ;-P but must say if you’re talking sense I must agree with that.

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.03.16 17:06:10 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : personally I can’t see how SARU has not suspended Roux awaiting the results of the whole Maties mess.

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.03.16 17:17:22 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : The last reporter to investigate SA sports is hiding out in the USA, after he received life threats…..big money means big greed means big thugs.

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.03.16 17:27:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 40) : Exactly, but reading between the lines it seems as if that is what Hoskins is doing but now Roux “friends” within the organisation are throwing their toys.

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.03.16 08:33:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 41) : Jeepers I forgot about that whole Joffers saga.

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.03.16 08:43:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 40) : News24 had an article about some contract clause that gives him a huge payout if they do.

    Here it is:
    http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/r15m-for-saru-to-suspend-jurie-roux-20160215

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.03.16 09:22:40 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 44) : need a new emoticon, finger down the throat.

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.03.16 09:30:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : Two fingers pointed at the temple works too.

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.03.16 09:37:42 by Seth101 Reply
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  • How are these guys any better than Cheeky Watson,guilty of the same crime as Blatter and Zuma.
    Using public funds they were elected to administer in the interest of rugby to line their own pockets.
    The whole lot belong in jail.

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.03.16 09:39:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 42) : @Seth101 (Comment 44) : this whole thing is just sickening!!!! If the whole Maties thing is true then he should be up for fraud not get a nice payout!

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.03.16 09:58:36 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 48) : That was my exact thought. It seems that in SA you get rewarded if you break the rules.

    @The hound (Comment 47) : It’s so obvious, but nobody is stating it. They need to work for the good of rugby, but they work for themselves.

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.03.16 10:12:21 by StevieS Reply
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  • Anybody have any suggestions as to who they’d like to see coach the Boks, obviously excluding those who have made themselves unavailable.

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.03.16 10:17:02 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 50) : Well if we are including unavailable, Graham Henry would be nice.
    More realistically, Mallet.

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.03.16 10:22:23 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Jake White

  • Comment 52, posted at 04.03.16 10:25:17 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 49) : very sad indeed!!!

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.03.16 11:00:40 by JD Reply
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