robdylan

So far, so good


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 7 Mar 2016 at 12:54
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Super Rugby 2016 is still very young indeed, but by just glancing at the log after two rounds, I see plenty of things to make me happy as a Sharks fan.

All of this is pretty meaningless after just two games, of course, but then again, think how much worse this would be had we lost those games? We’d already be talking about crisis or maybe even doing as the Reds have just done…

Here are my brief “log level” highlights for the Sharks after round 2:

- Top of log in the Africa 2 conference
- Joint 1st in total log points (9) and bonus points (1)
- One of only 4 unbeaten sides in the competition
- Joint 2nd highest points scored (62)
- 2nd fewest points conceded (24)
- 2nd best points difference (38)
- Joint 3rd most tries scored (7)
- Joint 2nd fewest tries conceded (3)
- Joint 2nd highest try difference (4)

Not bad, hey?



86 Comments

  • One thing is definite, there will be one less unbeaten side come next Monday.

    Good start by the Sharks, but I still think people need to keep their expectations in check this season.

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.03.16 12:58:14 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : Stormers game is going to be huge.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.03.16 13:18:23 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 2) : Realistically I don’t think it will be a win.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.03.16 13:36:23 by Seth101 Reply
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  • How do you all think Beadt has done at Capt and in his position? I feel he needs to find his form but I wasn’t disappointed ladt weekend….however I did feel there was a time that we could have used a capt to get the game more under our control. Thoughts?

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.03.16 13:48:28 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • *Beast

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.03.16 13:49:19 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @Sharkfinn (Comment 5) : I think he has been as good as you can expect from a guy who became Captain the game before the season started. I think he has shown good signs and will grow into it.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.03.16 13:51:59 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 3) : I’m still having one of those internal heart versus head debates regarding this game. We’re in with a chance, especially if we play to our strengths. Minimise set-pieces, pressure their flyhalf, put in kicks behind their defensive line and have the bigger boys running at their back three. There are definitely kinks in their armour. They do however have home-ground advantage and boast a miserly defense.

    I’m secretly hoping that with Rob du Preez out, Fleckie has a bit of a panic and decides to use Schalla at fist receiver. If he does that we’re in with a real chance.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.03.16 13:59:13 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 7) : well,you will most probably find schalk,etzebeth and psdt having runs at the sharks from 1st receiver,and then going wide to de jongh at 12 and kolbe joining the line.

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.03.16 14:06:07 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 7) : I have the same feeling lingering in my head, we have the guys to do it, and to be honest the Stormers did not have a wow game as yet, yes they have beaten the Bulls and Cheetahs, but it was not as if any of them were really going to push the stormers hard, the cheetahs did play with some heart and gave it a lot, but not the whole game, we have the capacity to take this one, and we do not have a bad track record in the cape

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.03.16 14:06:46 by Henkb Reply
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  • Leyds is 1.85m and doubt he weighs 80kg, zas is 1.85m 88kg.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.03.16 14:09:54 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 9) : cheetahs scrum destroyed the stormers on one occassion.stormers do have the luxury of malherbe and van rensburg on the bench (or kebble and koch).will beast play 80 mins against 2 top no3 going tag-team against him?the stormers line-out on own ball and defensively with taking opponents throw-ins ,though,seems daunting.

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.03.16 14:13:17 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 9) : I’m seriously considering backing the Sharks on Superbru regardless of whether or not I think they’ll win this one. I suspect most people will be backing the Stormers and an upset could help me jump a few positions on the leaderboard.

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.03.16 14:13:32 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 9) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 11) : Other tactic that Gary and co has to be considering is trying to force them into an aerial battle. With Rob out that could really pay dividends. If they want to go that route I feel that Claasens has to start.

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.03.16 14:16:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 12) : I’m backing Sharks, simply because I can not ever back the Stormers over us.

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.03.16 14:18:30 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 13) : weather conditions could play a role.

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.03.16 14:22:02 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 11) : @vanmartin (Comment 13) : that might be true, and don’t think Beast will last the full 80 with them ‘tagg-teaming” him, I do not say that the Stormers is a bad team, they do have weaknesses as [email protected]vanmartin (Comment 7) : but I’m also backing the Sharks on the bru and in my head, we do have the capabilities of taking them, they have not gotten to a point yet (or the coach) where they can switch from one style to another like we did on the weekend and the moment that happen we will have their number, if we start an all out attack in the 1st 20 and that doesn’t work, we can addapt ang another rout and I doubt they will be able to counter then

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.03.16 14:23:03 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Sharkfinn (Comment 4) : Maybe reading too much into this but on saturday a scuffle broke out between a Jaguar and Etienne Oosthuizen. Beast came running up, and instead of protesting his innocence to the ref or the opponent, he was protesting innocence to Beast. who had a angry headmaster look on his face. I liked that. It showed the players respect/fear him.

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.03.16 14:27:12 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 16) : with a running/supporting play game,and the problems re: support players,keegan must be mentioned.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.03.16 14:27:54 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 17) : sharks discipline needs to be be in-check.

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.03.16 14:32:07 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 18) : in my opinion he should be at least on the bench this week, if not starting for the 1st 30-50 minutes to get him into the game, I would start this week against them with Coetzee, Keegan, and the Ninja, the Dup brothers on the bench, not because they did anything wrong the past weekend that they need to be benched, but we should wear the stormers pack down, playing a fast paced game and dragging all their heavy soldiers all over the park, then you introduce the dup brother on one go, our pack is more agile then theirs are

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.03.16 14:33:19 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 3) : @vanmartin (Comment 7) : @Henkb (Comment 9) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 15) : there is no reason to not believe that the Sharks can beat the Stormers in Cape town. I believe that the Sharks have the players and coaches to go and beat them in their hometown!

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.03.16 14:52:14 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 19) : must say I do think the Sharks discipline against the Argies was top class.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.03.16 14:54:02 by JD Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 20) : 8 vd walt 7 keegan 6 marcell with ddp and jlpd subs?would like to have uanivi in match 23,also.

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.03.16 14:58:49 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 23) : would love it if the dup brothers can monster Etzebeth and the blond kid a bit, but staying in the laws off course, man that would make my Saturday so much better

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.03.16 15:01:28 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 24) : i think etzebeth can monster both twins at the same time lol

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.03.16 15:03:48 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 25) : No doubt, he is a big strong guy, but it is about time that someone bring him back to earth again, but then again he will start with his handbag stories, that is one that doesn’t sit well with him

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.03.16 15:05:49 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 26) : imo etzebeth is not dirty.

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.03.16 15:15:33 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : no I don’t say that he is, but he doesn’t like it when the other guys bring him down to earth from where he is looking down at everyone (length wise)

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.03.16 15:22:18 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 24) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 25) : my prediction of the week check EO this weekend going to show everyone why he was so highly rated (by JW anyway) as a youngster!

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.03.16 15:23:26 by JD Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 26) : just looking at the form of sa locks,lood is having a quiet start to the season.it is a real shame ruan botha is out injured.

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.03.16 15:23:31 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : @Henkb (Comment 28) : he’s not as dirty as Bakkies but to me it does seems that he like to push and shove players if he does no get it all his way.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.03.16 15:26:26 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 29) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 30) : he is having an unusual quiet start so far, I thought that he was excellent last year, and should have never played back up to matfield, EO is on his right full place now, and should get time to excel there, he was moved around way to much last year, yes we had to but he should become a proper lock now, and I can’t wait to see him and Lewies full on track again with Botha, this will be the best trio of young locks we had in a while

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.03.16 15:27:49 by Henkb Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 30) : not sure but is Lood not also recovering from an off season injury?

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.03.16 15:28:19 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 33) :hope he isn’t playing with an injury?

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.03.16 15:34:37 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 32) : what I like about EO this year is he’s not trying to play flashy rugby he’s willing to do the hard grafting and let the loosies get on with the flashy stuff. Now Lewies must also get 100% fit then we will see the Sharks forwards on fire!

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.03.16 15:37:36 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 34) : just had a quick look around but can’t find anything so maybe I was dreaming about Lood being injured. Maybe getting lost in having to work harder in a weaker than usual Cheetahs pack or just starting slow and pacing himself for the long year ahead.

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.03.16 15:50:54 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 35) : thomas,potgieter,botha,lambie recovering from injuries.mtyanda,jean deysel and bothma.chili to be available from 9th april.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.03.16 16:02:07 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 37) : if all the guys are fit GG will have a difficult time selecting a match day 23 :shock: can’t remember when last we had this type of depth

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.03.16 16:05:03 by Henkb Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 35) : surely that has a lot to do with the culture currently in the squad and the coaches, no one feels that they have to do the graft of any one else, or pick up what the others are not doing

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.03.16 16:08:33 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 38) : first choice match 23 for the final will be tough :D until then,need to ensure rotation is done correctly.

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.03.16 16:14:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 40) : just imagine if all the guys can stay fit and injury free up untill we host the final at KP :mrgreen: that will be a team for sore eyes and to be hold

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.03.16 16:18:52 by Henkb Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 42) : we might as well, keep believing, keep on hoping, dream big, reach for the stars and if you miss you still over the moon, and the semi will also be on KP :razz:

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.03.16 16:32:08 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 39) : for me it’s a sign that the players play for each other and they also know the coach sees and know what they’re doing for the team.

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.03.16 17:09:34 by JD Reply
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  • As a South African fan I was incredibly chuffed about the Lions’ win in New Zealand…as a Sharks fan in this new and, to me at least, still daft competition structure, that was a terrible result!

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.03.16 17:20:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 1) : Mathematically not definite as a draw will still leave the two sides that come up against each other unbeaten… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.03.16 17:23:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The Australian and NZ conferences need to be two mixed “Australasian” conferences. There is no reason logistically why not because the “African” conferences which include non African teams involve much greater travel.

    This will introduce much greater fairness to the tournament.

    Ie. Australasia 1

    Highlanders
    Crusaders
    Waratahs
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    Force

    Australasia 2

    Chiefs
    Hurricanes
    Blues
    Brumbies
    Reds

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.03.16 17:55:23 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • This relatively minor adjustment can also be effected from next year without changing the overall tournament structure we are now lumped with for the next several years.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.03.16 17:56:57 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 46) : @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 47) : must say that’s one of the best ideas I’ve seen and could really work, just a pity SANZAAAAAR will never go for it as it’s way to logical!

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.03.16 18:31:47 by JD Reply
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  • The Sharks can qualify for the quarter finals by either topping our conference (beat the Lions and Jags on log points), or by at least ending third on log points in the African group (beat the Bulls, Jags and Cheetahs on log points – assuming the Stormers (unless they implode) and Lions (based on current form) will top the two conferences).

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.03.16 18:33:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 40) : @Henkb (Comment 42) : personally I really think the Sharks can do it as they have the players and coaches.

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.03.16 18:35:52 by JD Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : to he honest I did not read that far to see how to qualify for the quarterfinals except for winning your conference. Nice to know there are other ways as well.

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.03.16 18:39:43 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 51) : it’s quite simple really.

    There are 4 conferences – NZ, Aus and 2 “African”

    The winners of each of these conferences qualify irrespective of log finish.

    So for example on the combined log right now the leading NZ team is the Crusaders in 6th but they qualify as NZ conference winner

    Then there are 4 places left to fill the play off spots.

    The rules stipulate 1 is to be from SA and 3 are to be from the NZ and Aus conferences.

    So if the Sharks don’t top their group (Africa 2) but finish runners up, they STILL have to make sure they finish better than the runners up in Africa 1 because only 1 additional SA team can qualify for the play offs.

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.03.16 19:07:48 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 52) : so NZ/OZ guaranteed 5 playoff spots and SA only 3 (if Argies/Japanese does not beat us)?!?!
    Who the fuck did the negotiations on the SA side?!?!?!

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.03.16 19:23:47 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 53) : correct.

    The other way you can look at it, is that we are guaranteed 3 teams in there out of 8.

    Last year the Stormers or any other team wouldn’t even have made the play offs except we were guaranteed 1 from 6.

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.03.16 19:35:10 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 46) : That is a very, very good point!

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  • @JD (Comment 53) : unless of course as you rightly point out- lets say Jaguars win our group and the Sunwolves surpass all expectations and win their group. Then SA will only have 1 qualifier, yes.

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  • @JD (Comment 53) : so as things stand with the combined log, the quarter final play offs will be:

    (Conference winner) Seed 1 BRUMBIES vs Seed 8 (Wild Card) CHIEFS
    (Conference winner) Seed 2 SHARKS vs Seed 7 (Wild Card) WARATAHS
    (Conference winner) Seed 3 STORMERS vs Seed 6 (Wild Card) FORCE
    (Conference winner) Seed 4 CRUSADERS vs Seed 5 (Wild Card) LIONS

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.03.16 19:40:52 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 55) : why thank you… it’s a bit obvious though… I wonder why SANZAAR didn’t go this way from the start.

    The Aus and NZ conferences are currently a huge mess. The Teams in the Australasian Groups will play six matches against teams from their own Conference.
    Instead of playing all teams in their conference home and away as in the 15 team format they will play just two teams home and away and the rest either home OR away. These fixtures will rotate annually. THIS PART IS HIGHLY UNFAIR

    This before they play all 5 from the other Australasian conference and only 4 from one of the African conferences.

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.03.16 19:45:44 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 57) : OK thanx for taking the time to explain it.

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.03.16 20:08:26 by JD Reply
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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 58) : The reason is because they are under the impression that local derbies are what the fans want to watch,and are prepared to shell out money to see.
    SANZAAR are only concerned about one thing how much money they can suck out of this thing.

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.03.16 20:42:05 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : 100% correct!!! Money money money!!!! SANZAAAAAR suck!!!

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.03.16 20:48:58 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : that can’t be the answer because as it stands the Australians play 6 games against fellow Australian teams and 5 games against NZ teams. So as it is the number of local derbies and games vs the other antipodean nation are pretty much evenly split.

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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : but yes, didn’t mean to be rude, there is an assumption that local derbies are more popular (the crowd attendance seems to agree). I just don’t understand this…. I get way more excited playing a foreign team.

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.03.16 23:50:32 by Kiss_the_Gold Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 63) : Maybe local derbies adraw bigger crowds because away fans can get to the game? Doubt anyone at SANZAAAAR considered that possibility. For me local derbies are the worst part of Super Rugby. The whole point is to play the best teams in the southern hemisphere, not rematch the Currie Cup.

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  • @Seth101 (Comment 64) : I concur…

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 63) : The stats say local derbies are more popular. It is therefore safe to assume that the majority of fans prefer them. Majority rules. Maybe a comparison of the tv viewings may give a different outcome or confirm the same?

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 63) : @Seth101 (Comment 64) : personally I think SANZAAAAAR only worry about money and yes crowds will be bigger at local derbies as both team supporters can go to the game. For me SANZAAAAR is also missing the whole point of the competition as I believe it was created as an Southern Hemisphere tournament to reward the best teams of NZ OZ and SA for winning/topping their local rugby competitions (something similar to the Heineken Cup in Europe) but now it has morphed into a totally separate competition that seems to be a replay of those very same competitions just with a little (50%) international flavour!

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.03.16 07:51:07 by JD Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 66) : that would be very interesting? Anyone an idea where to get the TV viewing stats for all the countries?

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.03.16 08:01:34 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 67) : Problem is that SANZAAR is bending themselves backwards for the Aussies. If the Aussies had their own successful domestic cup, then this kind of crap would never have been dished up, so the SR home pools was basically devised to give the Aussies their own kind of cup.

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.03.16 08:55:53 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 69) : that’s the feeling I get to. Nice way for them to get sponsorship for a “local” competition.

  • Comment 70, posted at 08.03.16 09:22:33 by JD Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 69) : Not really if they have NO domestic cup then this system works perfectly.
    It s here where we already have a domestic cup that its a fuck up.

  • Comment 71, posted at 08.03.16 10:10:28 by The hound Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 66) : Think local derbies are more popular in SA, because our teams have a better chance to win them than against the majority of NZ and Aus teams ;)

  • Comment 72, posted at 08.03.16 10:15:04 by HeinF Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 71) : @KingRiaan (Comment 69) : don’t worry guys soon SA will also not have a domestic cup as SARU is trying their best to sink the Currie cup!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 73, posted at 08.03.16 10:15:51 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 71) : Even NZ’s Cup is suffering because of the SR derbies.

  • Comment 74, posted at 08.03.16 11:23:09 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Kiss_the_Gold (Comment 46) : Still think the competition format sucks but that is one of the best ideas I’ve read to start fixing it. Why not write an article explaining the idea here on Sharksworld and let’s see if we can promote it on social platforms in the hopes that the right set of eyeballs sees it. I really think it’s that good.

  • Comment 75, posted at 08.03.16 11:26:38 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Was only 3 qualifying spots from the africa 1 and 2 pools not the trade-off to have 6 sa sr teams?nz and oz have 5 teams each.

  • Comment 76, posted at 08.03.16 11:34:19 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 76) : yes a special thanx must go to the genius administrators at SARU for negotiating it!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 77, posted at 08.03.16 11:47:48 by JD Reply
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  • The pools have been so designed so as to give sa,nz and aus assured representation in the knock-out stages.argentina and japan in effect have to compete against 5 other sa teams for 2 spots.

  • Comment 78, posted at 08.03.16 11:48:10 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 74) : do not see how it could not also effect the NZ local cup!

  • Comment 79, posted at 08.03.16 11:48:51 by JD Reply
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  • The African group did get done in on the awarding of QF spots.

    African: 8 (in group) / 18 (total) X 8 (QF spots) = 3.55
    Australasian: 10 (in group) / 18 (total) x 8 (QF spots) = 4.44

    Last time I checked this rounded to 4 and 4, not 3 and 5.

  • Comment 80, posted at 08.03.16 11:50:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 81) : think you on to something there.sa,aus,nz can also only each have a maximum of 3 reps in the knock-out stages.and sa is guaranteed one,but aus and nz 2 each.sa did however get the extra sr team.maybe this changed the pool formats?

  • Comment 81, posted at 08.03.16 11:56:15 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 81) : SARU was probably just so happy to finally get the Kings into Superrugby without taking another SA team out, that they did not even raise an issue on that one.

  • Comment 82, posted at 08.03.16 12:00:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 83) : yes,that must have been the trade-off: 6 sa sr teams,only one guaranteed knock-out spot,but can still have the maximum of 3 if sa teams perform.

  • Comment 83, posted at 08.03.16 12:05:11 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 81) : @Bokhoring (Comment 82) : that was all that SARU was worried about!!!!!!!!!!!! They were so focused on getting the Kings in that they would have signed just about anything!

  • Comment 84, posted at 08.03.16 12:27:44 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 84) : Guess they are so proud of themselves now

  • Comment 85, posted at 08.03.16 12:34:54 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 85) : must be as now they also have the Kings all to themselves with no need to share them with EP rugby!

  • Comment 86, posted at 08.03.16 12:36:58 by JD Reply
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