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Jean-Luc to sit out Bulls clash


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 15 Mar 2016 at 19:13
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Sharks team doctor Alan Kourie has released a detailed injury report ahead of Friday’s match against the Bulls in Pretoria; all of the players named appear to be well on track with rehab, with Jean-Luc du Preez the only fresh injury concern after Saturday’s bruising derby at Newlands.

Du Preez picked up a slight foot injury against the Stormers and will miss this weekend’s game, but is expected to be fit for selection next week. Gary Gold will thus be forced into a loose trio reshuffle for Loftus.

Patrick Lambie, Ruan Botha and Franna Kleinhans all continue with rehab after their successful operations. Botha is expected back at the beginning of May and thus could possibly even feature in the first game after the tour, against the Hurricanes in Durban. Lambie and Kleinhans should be back a week or two later.

Jacques Potgieter is also well on track with his rehab after surgery and is expected to be six weeks away from action; he should thus also become available towards the end of the tour.

Poor Tera Mtembu doesn’t know his exact fate yet, with Kourie revealing that he sustained bone bruising in his left knee during Friday’s practice match. His lay-off period is not known at this stage, but will be confirmed later depending on how the injury responds to treatment.

A number of other players managed to come through Friday’s encounter unscathed; we can probably assume that Dale Chadwick, Thomas du Toit, Giant Mtayanda, Khaya Majola and Jean Deysel are all pretty close to selection at this stage, while Renaldo Bothma also can’t be too far away.



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  • Hope it is nothing to serious. EO will probably move to Flank.

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.03.16 19:20:25 by YamYam Reply
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  • @YamYam (Comment 1) : NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.03.16 19:35:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @YamYam (Comment 1) : Please no…he’s finding his rhythm as 4 lock – he needs to stay there.

    Surely Daniel at 7 and Ginja-Ninja at 8.

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.03.16 19:43:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • vd walt at 7 with ddp at no8 with deysel on the bench?vd walt to go to no8 ,and deysel to replace vd walt at 7?or start deysel and vd walt on the bench.would have been nice if potgieter was available.selecting mcduling is also an option but not sure it will be the correct selection .

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.03.16 19:49:06 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : I see our friend psDt has “finaly fulfilled his dream of playing for the stormers” …. wish he decided to do that before leeching 5 surgeries out of the Sharks, and countless months of rehab. :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.03.16 19:51:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 5) : good for him.sad about the injuries he had whilst at the sharks.hope he remains injury-free.talented payer.boks can do with him.hope sharks locks push themselves hard also for that bok selection.

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.03.16 19:57:12 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 6) : Don’t care much for the Boks right now….I’m in SR mode, and my team got used by this fella….kind of the same as when someone uses one of my friends for personal gain…not on.

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.03.16 20:16:00 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 7) : the sharks is my team too,and i dont share the sentiment.he didnt injure himself on purpose.sharks had to get him right because he was a contracted player.he always gave his all in the sharks jersey.talented player and that is why we didn’t want him to leave.dont allow bitterness to take over.let it be.

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.03.16 20:23:38 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : I also hope not! I am hoping for the Ginger Ninja. But Mr Gold has reverted to that option so frequently.

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.03.16 20:28:19 by YamYam Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 8) : Not bitterness….but I value loyalty and honesty (antiquated as it may be in these modern times).

    If he always dreamt of playing for the stormers, why come to the Sharks in the first place?

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.03.16 20:37:31 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : and then made silly comments to the media about how he wanted to stay at the Sharks because he “owed” them…

    A man’s word is his bond.

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.03.16 20:48:22 by Sharks_have_Character! Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 11) : who knows what went down?what happened?when he made that comment i think he wanted to stay.perhaps he was told by whomever he does not owe the sharks anything?that this is the professional era?anyway,younger brother johan is still at the sharks and we should keep him.

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.03.16 21:03:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 11) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : You guys are talking about a 23 year old kid,not some hardened mercenary .
    He is a great player one of the best I have ever seen,unfortunately his parents just like Marcell’s put his future in the hands of a professional agent.
    The agent has the morals of a Lascar sailor,and has always had one agenda to make as much money as he could out of the boy.
    The Sharks are to blame in both cases,because they better than anyone else knew the potential of what they already had under contract and failed in both cases to secure these assets.
    Don’t be pissed off at the boys they are playing a professional game,a game that says we pay you huge money to expose your body to severe injury,the other side of the game says while I am able I will make sure I get as much money for it as I can.
    So get off your high horse,and welcome to 2016,its professional rugby these guys are playing.

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.03.16 21:07:29 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : well if you’re going to pretend to be the one thing fans still value in this professional mercenary era you so ably described – a player loyal to the team (and there’s still several out there despite what you say) – then don’t be surprised when you leave several pissed off people when you hightail a few days later.

    Google “Fabian Delph the snake” and you will see the Sharks fans have actually gone quite light on the guy.

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.03.16 21:15:31 by Sharks_have_Character! Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : Well said

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.03.16 21:18:27 by the ko Reply

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  • The reason I mention Delph is because he made similar statements to the media pledging his future to his club, only to sign for another club a few days later.

    Not much difference?

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.03.16 21:18:47 by Sharks_have_Character! Reply

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  • @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 14) : What you fail to take into account is that these two boys are probably two of the hottest properties in World Rugby,they are good enough to both walk into any team in the world.Not maybe or probably but definitely that includes the All Blacks as well.
    Somebody at the Sharks was so complacent that he never realised that unless he tied these two guys he already had under contact down ,somebody else would.
    Thats the arsehole you should be venting your spleen at.

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.03.16 21:26:12 by The hound Reply
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  • Fact is, he now states that it has ALWAYS been his dream to play for the stormers – why waste everybody’s time by coming to the Sharks first?

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.03.16 21:27:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 17) : and who would you say that was just out of interest?…

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.03.16 21:28:31 by Sharks_have_Character! Reply

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  • @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 16) : As Hound says, let’s not forget that this is still a young guy we’re talking about, and not someone with almost a decade of media experience behind him. I’m assuming he was keen to stay on at Kings Park, hence the loyalty comments, but imagine the kind of money subsequently thrown at him by WP, and the thought that his career might end sooner rather than later (bearing in mind his luck with injuries), I don’t agree with the way it was done whatsoever, but I kind of understand. Hell, I think I might even sign for the bulls in that situation…

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.03.16 21:30:04 by the ko Reply

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  • @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 19) : I don’t know,in the BJ era it would have been Strauelli,I don’t know who the present commercial manager of the Sharks is,but thats a good place to start.

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.03.16 21:32:06 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 17) : I wish he never joined the Sharks, clearly his heart has ALWAY been elsewhere….and glad he never signed on for any longer….wish he was honest enough to admit that the Sharks was merely a convenient stepping stone.

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.03.16 21:32:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 18) : Money, opportunity, career? You can’t believe that it was always Rory Kockott’s dream to play for France, or Josh Strauss’ dream to play for Scotland. Psdt obviously never got the opportunity he thought he deserved after school and the sharks picked him up. Based on your argument, he should have hung around in the Cape playing club Rugby hoping to one day get a shot, just because he wants to play for WP

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.03.16 21:35:56 by the ko Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : You are quite naive,SBW never stays longer than a season anywhere he goes.
    He switches codes,he switches countries,but the one constant thing about him is every club,code or team he plays for ends the season on top
    Two rugby World Cups,Two rugby league world cups,two Super rugby cups, with different teams,Tri nations,Bledisloe,and every thing that means anything in league in Australia and New Zealand.
    Does that diminish him as a player ,bullshit it just makes him better in my book.

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.03.16 21:40:43 by The hound Reply
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  • @the ko (Comment 23) : Nice of him to repay the Sharks’ faith in his crocked body by running to the opposition as soon as they came calling.

    In the grander scheme of things, he was a massive waste of time and money for the Sharks….glad we’re rid of him – and I won’t respect him for using the Sharks as his little in between fling.

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.03.16 21:42:10 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Who cares, the Stormers have him and they still suck :D . I wish him nothing but the best. Now lets get on with supporting the locks we do have which have all acquitted themselves well to date.

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.03.16 21:44:09 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 24) : He even became the best boxer in the history of the sport by beating Frans Botha!

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.03.16 21:44:09 by the ko Reply

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  • @the ko (Comment 23) : im sure glad he didn’t.cc final 2013 comes to mind! :D

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.03.16 21:46:13 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 24) : SBW is like a one night stand with a super model…she’ll make you feel great, but tomorrow you’ll be out looking for the real thing again.

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.03.16 21:46:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 25) : The nice thing about being that big a sports star, is that no matter how many fans you piss off at the previous team, you’ll have more support where you’re going…

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.03.16 21:46:36 by the ko Reply

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  • We’re better off with players who want to play for us and not those who dream about playing for other teams.

    The Sharks need to start playing like a team – and winning trophies – to be the team all the little kids dream about playing for. Like they were in the 90s.

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.03.16 21:48:17 by Sharks_have_Character! Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 26) : yes.lewies,botha,uanivi,andrews.

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.03.16 21:48:54 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @the ko (Comment 30) : I don’t mind SBW….one of the most talented sportsmen around….but he’s a hired gun, the outsider you contract when you require specialist help.

    Not sure why we’re comparing psDt with him….SBW has bigger dreams than playing for the streamers :)

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.03.16 21:53:17 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 31) : So you think we should bench Marcell then,think he was man of the match three times this year.
    What about all those guys who pulled PSDT on their previous teams Willie,Connie,Joe, to mention but a handful.
    Cmon get over it.

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.03.16 21:53:46 by The hound Reply
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  • A guy like Albert’s never spat in the face of the Lions by saying that he always dreamt of playing for the Sharks.

    It would have been in poor taste, and unbecoming of the person he is.

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.03.16 21:57:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 34) : huh?

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.03.16 21:58:10 by Sharks_have_Character! Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 33) : Friend they are all hired guns,SBW is just the most expensive one,the top gun.

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.03.16 22:02:24 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 37) : :D

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.03.16 22:07:35 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 37) : …and I don’t mind the hired guns….there is a place for them too….but even SBW never disrespected the team that gave him his start by claiming that he always dreamt to play for the opposition……not even when he left the Saders for the Chiefs did he do that – and there was plenty of “hate” from the Saders supporters for him after he joined the Chiefs.

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.03.16 22:08:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 39) : was it a question he was asked?psdt was just being honest when he said that.this is pro sport.player is worth y amount for x years.assurance is taken out to cover injuries (as i understand it-could be wrong).contract is finished.re-negotiate a new deal with player,or rather the agent.which he is not obliged to sign.

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.03.16 22:33:07 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 35) : @The hound (Comment 34) : @Sharks_have_Character! (Comment 36) : @50shadesofshark (Comment 38) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 39) : OK guys let me put it this way just like Saturdays penalty try is done and no matter how much you beg scream bitch or moan it will not change so also has the time of PSDT’s (and shortly Marcell’s) at the Sharks come to an end. Now we can go the Stormers way of screaming and bithing or we can get on with our lives and wish the guys a farewell and let them play where they want. Yes I also feel it was not handled correctly and would have liked it to be deferent but it is what it is and will not change.
    One thing we seemingly forgot is that the Sharks are not only victims in this player poaching game they also sometimes play the poacher just think of Mapoe who practiced for 6 month with the Sharks whilst contracted to the Cheetahs and I’m reasonably sure Ludik and/or Alberts was also poached (via a loophole in their contracts) whilst still contracted to the Lions.

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.03.16 00:26:31 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 41) : Poaching is not the issue here….it’s what this particular constantly says to the press.

    It is in bad taste, and there is no defending what he said….and I therefore reserve the right to have zero respect for him.

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.03.16 07:03:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • This was about our injured players,how did it turn to a pissing match about psdt? People let it go he left he pissed us off his a stormers man through and through. When he did play for us he gave 110% regardless who his fav team was. Wish him well let’s support our guys let karma do the rest don’t waste your energy on this kid

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.03.16 07:42:39 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 43) : I’m so used to him always being on our injured list, it felt so appropriate :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.03.16 07:51:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Last word for me on this subject,at the time PSDT signed for the Sharks so did another hot property from the W.P none other than Carel du Plessis son Jean Luc.
    Something must have been horribly wrong at W.P and very right at the Sharks for these two W.P royalty connected players to jump ship,
    At the same time Pollard still at school also jumped to the Bulls.
    Whatever it was seems to have gone because the first two have returned to the fold,and don’t be surprised if Pollard also does his prodigal thing.

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.03.16 08:01:39 by The hound Reply
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  • In other good news:

    Pocock will be on a year long sabbatical come 2017 – that Oz conference just became half a ton easier.

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.03.16 08:04:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : :mrgreen: point taken

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.03.16 08:11:18 by Poisy Reply
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  • Seems like there is some nice depth coming back from injury in various stages…all of Thomas DuToit, Jean Deysel, Keegan Daniel, Giant Mtyanda, Ruan Botha, Renaldo Bothma, Khaya Majola, Jacques Potgiter,Tijuvee Uianivi, Inny Radebe, Francois Kleinhans and then Pat Lambie…thats some serious fire power in waiting…

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.03.16 08:13:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : Thats a team that could probably also beat the Stormers.

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.03.16 08:26:03 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : Would need a few of those forwards to play in the backline ;) but i like your thinking

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.03.16 08:42:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 50) : This is Stormers we are talking about,they play all their forwards in the backline.

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.03.16 08:53:46 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : also Chili retuning from ban.

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.03.16 09:16:44 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 42) : yes you’re right the way it was done is bad and I was also pissed off but the point I was trying to make is karma just gave the Sharks (and Sharks supporters) a little payback.

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.03.16 09:18:53 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 52) : Please dont remind me…not a fan

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.03.16 10:24:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : neither am I but his here to stay.
    Don’t know if it’s Chili’s arrival or not but something or someone has lit a serious fire under Marais this season. He’s really looking good.

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.03.16 23:35:08 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : @JD (Comment 55) : maybe this is also an issue worth laying to rest?would like to see chili being afforded opportunity to prove himself once he starts playing without comments relating to the past,considering the fact that he actually is sitting out his ban.

  • Comment 56, posted at 17.03.16 09:03:20 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 55) : Marais is a good player…had serious quality as a youngster. Have seen him putting in the work in the gym since the end of last season. He isnt the most powerful guy but he does have good skills.

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.03.16 09:34:26 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 51) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 17.03.16 09:35:37 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 57) : Yeh i saw that article…wasnt a very well thought out argument. Ban tackling instead of teaching the correct technique and let the younger bodies adapt. Instead lets ban it till the guys are older and muscular and now lets learn…then watch the injury rate. Some people publish things just to be heard

  • Comment 60, posted at 17.03.16 09:36:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 56) : I have no problem with other people forgiving him and getting behind him. But i personally wont. A cheat is a cheat and it sends an incredibly bad message to any young player. Its my personal opinion and sorry i cannot see any logical reason to change that.

  • Comment 61, posted at 17.03.16 09:37:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 60) :yes,and rugby without tackling is not rugby.the article did mention the weight class as they do in new zeasland.

  • Comment 62, posted at 17.03.16 09:43:34 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 62) : While the weight class has some merit i believe that rugby is a game for all sizes big and small and the players need to adapt so the small guy can tackle the big guy and the big guy can chase down the small guy.

  • Comment 63, posted at 17.03.16 10:00:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 5) : Well now that he is fulfilling his dream I think its time he at least showed it. The guy does not look a happy camper.

  • Comment 64, posted at 17.03.16 12:36:45 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 64) : He thought he’d get Eddie as head coach…instead he’s stuck with a mediocre assistant coach masquerading as head coach, and Schalk’s incessant bleating.

    Life’s good at the streamers, ain’t it just. :twisted:

  • Comment 65, posted at 17.03.16 12:52:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 56) : I was not commenting about his past I was commenting of players that will be available for selection in the future! I will give him every opportunity to prove himself but just because he’s playing for the Sharks does not mean I have to like him as a player. Trust me he’s not the first player to play for the Sharks that I do not like as a player and he will for sure not be the last!

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.03.16 23:21:50 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 58) : he does not exactly look to weak to me!?!?!

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.03.16 23:24:36 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 63) : having a 60kg child play against a 130kg child is dangerous and another problem with that is that the big kid (in most cases) does not gain skills as he just have to use his size to “steamroller” opposition.
    I personally think age group rugby with a set weight/size limit will make it safer as well as force coaches to work on skills rather than just buy the biggest kid around to win games!!!

  • Comment 68, posted at 18.03.16 23:29:44 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 64) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 65) : maybe his dream is now becoming a nightmare?!?!

  • Comment 69, posted at 18.03.16 23:31:42 by JD Reply
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