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Super Rugby 2016: Round 6 Saturday games


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Super Rugby on 2 Apr 2016 at 11:01
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Sorry this is a bit late. I think I may have drunk an entire bottle of whiskey last night. Oops!

We’ve missed Blues v Jaguares, but here are the teams anyway!

Blues: 15. Lolagi Visinia, 14. Rieko Ioane, 13. Rene Ranger, 12. Pierts Francis, 11. Tevita Li, 10. Ihaia West, 9. Bryn Hall, 8. Steven Luatua, 7. Blake Gibson, 6. Joe Edwards, 5. Josh Bekhuis, 4. Patrick Tuipoluto, 3. Charlie Faumuina, 2. James Parsons (Captain), 1. Nic Mayhew
Replacements: 16. Quentin MacDonald, 17. Sam Prattley, 18. Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 19. Hoani Matenga, 20. Akira Ioane, 21. Billy Guyton, 22. Matt McGahan, 23. George Moala

Jaguares: 15. Ramiro Moyano, 14. Emiliano Bofelli, 13. Matias Moroni, 12. Jeronimo de la Fuente, 11. Manuel Montero, 10. Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 9. Martin Landajo (Captain), 8. Leonardo Senatore, 7. Rodrigo Baez, 6. Tomas Lezana, 5. Tomas Lavanini, 4. Guido Petti Pagadizaval, 3. Ramiro Herrera, 2. Julian Montoya, 1. Roberto Tejerizo
Replacements: 16. Facundo Bosch, 17. Santiago Garcia Botta, 18. Enrique Pieretto, 19. Juan Cruz Guillemain, 20. Pablo Matera, 21. Gonzalo Bertranou, 22. Nicolas Sanchez, 23. Joaquin Paz

At 10h40, we have Brumbies v Chiefs.

Brumbies : 15. Aidan Toua, 14. Joseph Tomane, 13. Tevita Kuridrani, 12. Matt Toomua, 11. Robbie Coleman, 10. Christian Lealiifano, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 8. Ita Vaea, 7. David Pocock, 6. Scott Fardy, 5. Sam Carter, 4. Rory Arnold, 3. Ben Alexander, 2. Stephen Moore (Captain), 1. Scott Sio
Replacements: 16. Josh Mann-Rea, 17. Allan Alaalatoa, 18. Leslie Leulua’iali’i-Makin, 19. Tom Staniforth, 20. Jordan Smiler, 21. Joe Powell, 22. James Dargaville, 23. Nigel Ah Wong

Chiefs: 15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Toni Pulu, 13. Anton Lienert-Brown, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 11. James Lowe, 10. Aaron Cruden, 9. Brad Weber, 8. Michael Leitch, 7. Sam Cane (Captain), 6. Tom Sanders, 5. Taleni Seu, 4. Michael Allardice, 3. Siate Tokolahi, 2. Hikawera Elliott, 1. Mitchell Graham
Replacements: 16. Rhys Marshall, 17. Atunaisa Moli, 18. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, 19. James Tucker, 20. Maama Vaipulu, 21. Kane Hammington, 22. Seta Tamanivalu, 23. Shaun Stevenson

At 17h05, in PE, it’s Kings v Sunwolves

Kings: 15. Jurgen Visser, 14. Siyanda Grey, 13. Stefan Watermeyer, 12. Shane Gates, 11. Malcolm Jaer, 10. Louis Fouche, 9. Ntando Kebe, 8. Aidon Davis, 7. Stefan Willemse, 6. CJ Velleman, 5. John-Charles Astle, 4. Steven Sykes (Captain), 3. Jacobie Adriaanse, 2. Edgar Marutlulle, 1. Sithembiso Sithole
Replacements: 16. Martin Ferreira, 17. Schalk Ferreira, 18. Tom Botha, 19. Schalk Oelofse, 20. Chris Cloete, 21. Kevin Luiters, 22. Elgar Watts, 23. Jaco van Tonder

Sunwolves: 15. Riaan Viljoen, 14. Viliami Lolohea, 13. Harumichi Tatekawa, 12. Yu Tamura, 11. Akihito Yamada, 10. Tusi Pisi, 9. Kaito Shigeno, 8. Ed Quirk, 7. Andrew Durutalo, 6. Liaki Moli, 5. Tim Bond, 4. Hitoshi Ono, 3. Shinnosuke Kakinaga, 2. Shota Horie (Captain), 1. Keith Inagaki
Replacements: 16. Futoshi Mori, 17. Masataka Mikami, 18. Takuma Asahara, 19. Shinya Makabe, 20. Yoshia Hosoda, 21. Tomàs Leonardi, 22. Yuki Yatomi, 23. Mifiposeti Paea

Then off to Loftus for Bulls v Cheetahs, which kicks off at 19h10.

Bulls: 15. Jesse Kriel, 14. Travis Ismaiel, 13. Jan Serfontein, 12. Burger Odendaal, 11. Jamba Ulengo, 10. Tian Schoeman, 9. Rudy Paige, 8. Arno Botha, 7. Jannes Kirsten, 6. Roelof Smit, 5. RG Snyman, 4. Jason Jenkins, 3. Marcel Van Der Merwe, 2. Adriaan Strauss (Captain), 1. Lizo Gqoboka
Replacements: 16. Bandise Maku, 17. Trevor Nyakane, 18. Pierre Schoeman, 19. Nico Janse van Rensburg, 20. Pieter Labuschagne, 21. Ivan van Zyl, 22. Francois Brummer, 23. SP Marais

Cheetahs: 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Sergeal Petersen, 13 Francois Venter (captain) , 12 Nico Lee, 11 Raymond Rhule, 10 Niel Marais, 9 Shaun Venter, 8 Paul Schoeman, 7 Uzair Cassiem, 6 Boom Prinsloo, 5 Francois Uys, 4 Lodewyk de Jager, 3 Johan Coetzee, 2 Torsten van Jaarsveld, 1 Ox Nche.
Replacements: 16 Jacques du Toit, 17 Charles Marais, 18 Maks van Dyk, 19 Carl Wegner, 20 Hilton Lobberts, 21 Henco Venter, 22 Tian Meyer, 23 Fred Zeilinga.



88 Comments

  • Only one bottle, can’t even read the posting. You obviously had a good reason whereas we drowned our sorrows watching an April fools joke.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.04.16 11:14:57 by Bayshark Reply
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  • Wow so those saying the Chiefs only scored so many tries because they’d played against the Kings and Force, this is eye opening. 48 points up on the scoreboard against the Brumbies, in Canberra, where they haven’t won since 2008.

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.04.16 12:28:06 by Voodoo Rookin Reply
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  • ok wow….. awesome result Chiefs.

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.04.16 12:39:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • At the last second I changed my Bru pick from the Chiefs to the Brumbies. Must trust my initial instinct more!!

    Worryingly, I did the same by changing to the Wolves and locking it in.

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.04.16 12:42:15 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • I don’t understand how some people say that Rugby League is more exciting to watch than Rugby Union.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.04.16 14:04:56 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 5) : I’d rather watch miserably boring sports like basketball, motor racing, darts and snooker before league.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.04.16 14:23:36 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 6) : I’m watching NRL at the moment. It’s not only boring, but annoying as well.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.04.16 14:57:48 by Ben Reply
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  • Kings look better than the Sharks in their match. I know the opposition is a factor. But the Kings are at home and look motivated – nice to see

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.04.16 17:31:54 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • This whooping like girls when a simple scrum penalty is won, which seems a South African phenomenon mostly, is getting ridiculous.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.04.16 17:39:09 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Half Time

    King 23 – 20 Sunwolves

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.04.16 17:50:25 by Ben Reply
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  • Sunflowers get a penalty.

    23-23

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.04.16 18:18:32 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Kings 26 – 23 Sunwolves

    73 minutes.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.04.16 18:41:33 by Ben Reply
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  • The Kings are holding on to their lead for dear life and the Sunwolves refuse to kick at goal.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.04.16 18:42:28 by Ben Reply
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  • FULL TIME

    KINGS 33 – 28 SUNWOLVES

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.04.16 18:52:29 by Ben Reply
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  • Kings take the win 33-28 but the Sunflowers had more than enough opportunities to win that game. Most of the 2nd half was camped in the Kings 22m and all penalty shots at the posts were turned down.

    Well done to the Kings but I feel a little sorry for the Sunflowers who must now be starting to feel their cray cray travel.

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.04.16 18:55:03 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Jeez the Bulls’pink is an eyesore.

    Go Cheetahs.

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.04.16 19:16:55 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Oh gosh. The Bulls have silver glitter on their pink jerseys. Embarrassing. They deserve to lose.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.04.16 19:23:54 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Go Cheetahs…

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.04.16 19:33:41 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Still 3-3 after 12 mins…

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.04.16 19:34:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • A penny for every time Nkumane says “go forward”…

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.04.16 19:38:25 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Half Time

    Bulls 20 – 10 Cheetahs

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.04.16 20:06:08 by Ben Reply
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  • Cheetahs back into it…20-18 on 53 minutes…

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.04.16 20:34:16 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Bulls 23 – 18 Cheetahs

    58 minutes.

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.04.16 20:37:51 by Ben Reply
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  • Penalty to the Bulls makes it 23-18…

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.04.16 20:39:17 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Heading into the last quarter…

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.04.16 20:39:39 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Pretty even game…

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.04.16 20:39:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • 23-18 going into the last 10 minutes…

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.04.16 20:52:53 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Couple of minutes missed…

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.04.16 20:53:12 by pastorshark Reply
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  • FULL TIME

    BULLS 23 – 18 CHEETAHS

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.04.16 21:02:15 by Ben Reply
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  • Bulls hang in there…final score 23-18…

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.04.16 21:08:03 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The Cheetahs had their chances…

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.04.16 21:08:37 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : LOL…that was supposed to have read “couple of kicks missed”… :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.04.16 21:09:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Ho hum game.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.04.16 22:49:33 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • We finally get an upset. Rebels! That will have killed thousands of GSPs.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.04.16 13:19:41 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 34) : Absolutely…killer…

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.04.16 13:29:41 by pastorshark Reply
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  • So what have we learned.

    The Chiefs are good. Reaaaally good.

    The Brumbies are not quite as good as the hype.

    The Rebels are a surprise package, joint 1st in the Aus conference. They will not be easy beats on the road.

    The Lions are providing hope for SA. They just need to be more intelligent and find more balance in their play.

    The Sharks better wake up NOW because the Lions and Bulls are only 2 points behind and that conference leader and wild card place is under threat. A couple of losses and we can be knocked straight out of the running for play offs.

    Fyndraaai reaaallly likes it when I say “we”.

    An illuminating weekend :-)

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.04.16 14:08:10 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 36) :
    And you learnt that I am not a Blou Bul…or even a Pink Bull.
    The “Character” laden Sharks to pip the “Kiwi Style” Lions this weekend.
    Can’t recall once seeing the Lion’s loosies committing to slow down or steal ball at the breakdowns, Marcel will have a field day this weekend.
    Then onwards to beat the “Kings” of NZ, the Blues.
    Every family has that one member no one wants to acknowledge or talk about, just like every country has that one team….unfortunately for the Blues, it’s them when it comes to Kiwi sides.
    Sharks to beat the Lions and Blues in the next two weeks, Lions to lose to the Sharks and Stormers in the next two weeks and happy days on SharksWorld.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.04.16 14:22:01 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 37) : we can’t be too disparaging of the Blues… they still have 11 points, only 3 less than the Bulls and Lions. And they’ve only won 1 less game than the Sharks. So let’s not talk too soon…

    It’s not that the SA and Aus conferences are especially shit, it’s that the NZ conference is exponentially better.

    The Sharks’ 10 match unbeaten streak against the Blues could be under threat… it wouldn’t surprise me if we lose but this game may offer our only realistic prospect of a victory on our NZ tour. If we kick to the Chiefs and Highlanders backs all game long we will be slaughtered with big scores.

    I’d take away wins against the Blues and Jaguars on our 4 match tour. We really should beat the Jaguars away (seeing as the Stormers did it relatively comfortably).

    If we’re honest with ourselves the ideal number of teams for a competitive tournament would be NZ 5, SA 4 and Aus 3 and hey presto we’re exactly back with the original 12 teams of the Super 12.

    Hehe my point about ‘die Blou Bulle’ is right though don’t you think? I’ll start calling the Jaguars ‘Los Hug-u-ah-rez’ when Tony Jonson calls the Bulls ‘die Blou Bulle’ in his commentary.

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.04.16 14:34:03 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Funny how it wasn’t too long ago that the Chiefs and Highlanders were the basement dwellers of NZ Super Rugby.

    The Highlanders are my favourite NZ team but that stems from when they were easy beats and it was easy to feel sorry for them. Now that they’re champions I don’t like them so much haha.

    I guess like how the Lions are/were everyone’s “2nd favourite” SA team. That’s not the case for me any more, their fans are way too arrogant these days for that :-)

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.04.16 14:42:06 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • :lol:
    As long as you don’t tell people that you drive a Hug-u-ah-rez XF, it’s all good.
    Blues are the most I’ll disciplined side I have seen in a long time, it’s only due to the ineptness of the Jaguars (see what I did there) that they won this weekend. And the Jaguars are severely overrated IMO.
    The passion they show during tests aren’t there, no anthems to cry through and to get worked up about.
    They, and the Japs are using this comp as a training ground, which I’m not sure I appreciate. Sunwolves threw away a victory yesterday by ignoring basic fundamentals of rugby, that a penalty in front of the posts is worth 3 points, and if you trail by 3 away from home, you take the bloody points.
    Sharks should beat the Blues if they play with discipline and use at least 70% of their chances.
    What I’ve really learnt this weekend is. Don’t change your picks, I had the Saders by 7, Kings by 3 and Rebels by 4, went and changed all 3 of them. Now I’ve picked and locked.
    Second lesson, always, but always, back the Kiwi team against the SA and Aus sides, you will be right 8 or 9 times out of 10 probably.
    I know my Sharks over Blues prediction flies in the face of my second lesson, but I don’t rate or count the Blues in that bracket of Kiwi sides

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.04.16 14:44:18 by nortie Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 39) :
    I see you change your nic almost as often as the Sharks change coaches

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.04.16 14:48:34 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 40) : the Jaguars and Sunflowers are on the right path (thanks Fleck) when it comes to how they want to play. But they’ve been duped into believing the Super Rugby hype and with a little more experience and measured approach they have potential to do well. I don’t think you can expect any new franchise to be thrown together and win consistently from the get go. Look how long its taken the Rebels to gain a modicum of respectability.

    If the Sharks walk the coach’s talk against the Lions this weekend and show us they are not increasingly pursuing a dof game because they panicked then we might have some hope for a win first up on tour. But if we see no change this weekend – and woe betide lose to the Lions at home – we will be in for a very long tour, and yes, even against the Blues.

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.04.16 15:03:04 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 41) : I watched a ridiculous documentary on the increasingly ridiculous Discovery Channel about the ‘voodoo Rookin’, a large shark of lore which haunts the Louisiana bayou. I’ve been out to the bayou before and it’s a strange place. Couldn’t imagine a better nic for this place.

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.04.16 15:13:48 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 42) :
    How long will the Sunwolves and Jaguars continue to believe they are on the right track if they lose every game?
    Something is going to give.
    The same way you and some here believe that the Sharks win over the Jags was the catalyst to them changing their game plan to a more “conservative” one, the Jags and Wolves will at some stage become gatvol of losing every week and have to rethink their game plan.
    Or, maybe their supporters are happy with their team losing, but playing pretty?
    SA sides don’t have that luxury, jeez, we crucified AC at times for winning, but playing boring rugby.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.04.16 15:14:36 by nortie Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 43) :
    Ha ha, better than Hammerhead or, heaven forbid, Great White (that might get you in trouble)

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.04.16 15:15:45 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 44) : the same can be said for the Lions?

    You cannot play the extremes. Undoubtedly the “NZ way” is the key to success, nobody can deny that, but their best exponents of it play it in a smart and balanced way.

    Let’s not forget those same players have been doing it for years in the All Blacks team and for their franchises. It will take time for the new franchises to bridge that skills gap and learn to be smarter.

    The NZders are a smart, canny bunch when it comes to rugby. Very professional.

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.04.16 15:28:10 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • Big, big important game against the Lions this weekend…

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.04.16 15:54:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • It’s quite illuminating to ask yourself whether you’d rather your team have lost to the Crusaders like the Sharks did or the Lions did. The losing margins were virtually the same.

    Arguably the Sharks were closer to beating the Crusaders (but for Willie’s try being disallowed in dubious circumstances it may well have been a win). Had the Sharks won, it would have been rightfully viewed as ‘lucky’ and completely against the run of play. Perhaps a travesty of rugby justice?

    Had the Lions won it would have had nothing to do with luck but everything to do with their own game. Nobody would have said they “stole a win”.

    Because that Sharks blueprint has been the Boks blueprint against the All Blacks for so long now we all know it hardly ever is enough to succeed. Perhaps 1 out 10 times when everything falls into place. It’s negative and it’s about time we realise it isn’t good enough.

    Nothing about the bold way the Lions are going about the game is negative. Yes, they’re a little naive in some respects with the right adjustments, their game offers much better prospects of beating NZ sides.

    I know how I’d have preferred my team to lose against the Crusaders.

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.04.16 15:56:06 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 48) :
    Personally, and this is just my opinion, I believe the Crusaders had a harder time beating the Sharks.
    They were never really in danger against the Lions, they ensured they had a 16 point lead going into the last quarter. When Akker scored his 1st try, they immediately hit back to restore the lead to 16.
    They broke the defense with ease, were never challenged at the breakdown points, and almost scored at will.
    Against the Sharks they were made to work much harder for their points, two errors cost them 14 points, yesterday they were the beneficiaries of probably 21 points due to errors from the Lions.
    Sharks challenged them on defense, competed at the breakdowns and forced them into making mistakes.

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.04.16 16:07:30 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 49) : yes, I accepted the Sharks were arguably closer to winning. Even though in reality that game was so one-sided in nature the actual 5 point loss felt like a 30 point loss. A win their would undoubtedly have felt lucky.

    I also accepted the Lions are still quite naive. Nobody is suggesting these Lions players are the polished article.

    I’m saying the future looks brighter for any SA team that can become the polished article. At least the Lions are on the road. There remain doubts whether the Sharks and Stormers are even on that road despite what both their coaches are saying.

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.04.16 16:14:31 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 50) :
    Pity one can’t combine the Lions’ attack with the Stormers or Sharks defense.
    We could end up with ….well….the Crusaders.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.04.16 16:26:55 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 51) : precisely.

    Look at the Stormers for years thinking the best defence around will win them the tournament.

    We seem to fall into this all or nothing trap.

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.04.16 16:35:36 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 52) :
    I seriously doubt any SA side will even reach the final.
    Chiefs are playing some fantastic rugby, but so were the Hurricanes all through last year’s pool stages, and look what happened to them in the final.
    Such a long way to go yet.
    If I were Cheika I would be very worried. His Wallaby stars look woeful, especially those playing for the Waratahs.
    England is looming and Eddie must be smiling when he is watching the Aussie sides at the moment.

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.04.16 16:45:08 by nortie Reply

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  • Have England pulled a “Stormer” or “Protea” or will 156 be enough?

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.04.16 17:10:10 by nortie Reply

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  • Or, are the Windies going to be crowned Chokers of this competition?

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.04.16 17:33:10 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 51) : I think we need to really work on offensive ruck technique.

    I don’t think we place nearly as much emphasis on offensive ruck technique as we do to defensive ruck technique, probably because our teams are so defence orientated. If we want to employ more phases and ball retention/passing then we have to protect our ball better – there is nothing more that gets the fear into our teams than a New Zealand side making a defensive turnover with an unstructured defence line set, which is why I think our mindset is to kick the ball away because it’s ‘safer’ to defend against. The one thing I truly hate as a spectator is seeing my team on attack only to have the ball stolen by a turnover.

    Even then, our defensive ruck play is inferior. Watch the NZ sides in particular, how quickly their tackler and a 2nd player work in tandem. Player number 2 does not commit to the tackle and as soon as the tackle is made player number 2 is in immediately for the ball.

    I’m not a coach but it seems we can do better at both offensive and defensive rucks. Offensively, having support players working in tandem with the tackled player/carrier (also looking for the off load and being able to quickly adapt from a potential off load receiver to an offensive ruck supporter), defensively instead of committing two or three bodies to a tackle have a support player standing off for a second to rather enter as a ball gatherer.

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.04.16 17:51:53 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 55) : Proteas should have loaded their match day 11 with batsman, might have gotten us to the final…..seems the fasties are keeping the board ticking, and no-name batsmen are wicket takers. Now we know

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 57) : *no-name bowlers

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.04.16 18:01:17 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 57) :
    Yep. Pity that in the Protea’s batsmen’s case, if reputions were worth runs we would have posted quite big scores.
    Dale Steyn has completely lost the plot, he reminds me of Schalk Burger, can’t handle youngsters upstaging him and still believes, in his mind, he can do what he did some years ago.
    Same way Schalk lost the plot against the Sharks at Newlands.

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.04.16 18:04:58 by nortie Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 56) :
    You say you are no coach, but you seem to know more than most of our current crop.
    Maybe we can look forward to hearing your name on the 12th of April :grin:

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.04.16 18:09:21 by nortie Reply

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  • Ben Stokes wins the Protea jersey

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.04.16 19:03:55 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 61) : stjoe but that was very Proteaesque by Stokes.

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.04.16 19:16:55 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 62) :
    Amazing end to the tournament.
    Thought England had done enough to win, but wow, what a last 4 balls

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.04.16 19:23:23 by nortie Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 62) : @nortie (Comment 63) : Oooooh myyyyy wooooooord!!! What an ending…stuff of dreams for Brathwaite…lifelong nightmares for Stokes…

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.04.16 19:34:12 by pastorshark Reply
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  • What a pleasure to listen to Sammy and Brathwaite talk afterwards.
    Honesty in an aftermatch speech, not something we are used to.
    They gave Shane Warne, Mark Nicholis and the Windies Cricket Board both barrels, lovely to listen to

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.04.16 19:41:34 by nortie Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 64) :
    Yeah, I feel for Stokes, he will have nightmares for a while, but, if you have 19 runs to play with you should be able to pull it through

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.04.16 19:43:38 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 65) :
    Not Brathwaite, but Samuels

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.04.16 20:05:12 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 66) : Yeah…he is a good player but too many length balls…and great hitting by Brathwaite…

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.04.16 20:22:27 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 68) :
    Yep.
    It’s a batsman’s game these days

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.04.16 20:32:28 by nortie Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 64) : @nortie (Comment 66) : ja poor Stokes he had 19 runs to defend and Windies won with two balls to spare!!! Serious power hitting by Brathwaite!!!

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.04.16 20:32:38 by JD Reply
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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 62) : yes especially after the English commentators sang his praises after catching Russel!!!

  • Comment 71, posted at 03.04.16 20:38:27 by JD Reply
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  • @nortie (Comment 65) : missed it what did he say?

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.04.16 20:39:56 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 72) :
    Marlon Samuels had a go at Warne, I guess Warne said they had no chance or something.
    He ended his interview by saying that when he woke up that morning he wanted to show Warne and that he does his talking with his bat and not his mic.
    Sammy mentioned Nicholis, I guess they also wrote them off, and he said that they received messages of good luck from people in the Caribean, but didn’t once get a message from the WICB.
    Obviously some bad blood between the players and administrators.
    Was good to listen to some honest talking, get so sick of this “going back to the drawing board” rubbish we hear week in and week out

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.04.16 20:48:13 by nortie Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 72) :
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-world-twenty20-2016/content/story/994925.html

    I want to thank the almighty, because without him nothing is possible. We have a pastor in the team in Andre Fletcher, he keeps on praying. We are a praying team. I’m really happy for this win and it’s something we are going to cherish for a long time.

    I’ve said we have 15 match-winners. Nobody gave us a chance but every game somebody stepped up and took responsibility. To see Carlos [Brathwaite] play like that in his debut World Cup, it’s just tremendous. It shows the depth we have in the Caribbean in T20 cricket and hopefully with the right structure and development our cricket will continue to improve in one-day and Test cricket.

    We started this journey … we all know we had … people were wondering whether we would play this tournament. We had a lot of issues, we felt disrespected by our board, Mark Nicholas described our team as a team with no brains. All these things before the tournament just brought this team together. I really want to thank these 15 men, the ability to just put all those adversities aside and to come out and play this type of cricket in front of such passionate fans, it’s just tremendous.

    I personally also want to thank the coaching staff, coach Phil, he’s been through a lot, and to come here and the way he’s coached the team, he’s just brilliant. All the other coaching staff, who have done their part. We had a new manager in this tournament in Rawl Lewis, he had never managed any team before. He came here, we were at a camp in Dubai, but we had no uniforms, no printed … he left Dubai, went to Kolkata, that’s where he started. The trouble he went to, to get us in this uniform … I got to give credit to the entire team here, it was us in our own little circle, this win we dedicate it to all our fans in the Caribbean.

    Lastly I really want to thank the heads of CARICOM, throughout this tournament they have been supporting the team, we’ve got emails, we’ve got phone calls, Prime Minister [Keith] Mitchell [from Grenada]. He sent a very inspiring email for the team this morning … and I’m yet to hear from our own cricket board. That is very disappointing.

    For today, I’m going to celebrate with these 15 men and coaching staff. I don’t know when I’m going to be playing with these guys again because we don’t get selected for one-day cricket. We don’t know when we’re going to be playing T20. So this win, I want to thank you my team, I want to thank you coaching staff … everybody know West Indies are champion!

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.04.16 20:52:32 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 74) : Nice.

    Perfect ending to an inspired final.

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.04.16 20:59:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) :
    Yep, the words only paint part of the picture, the emotion with which it was said makes it much more clear.
    They had a point to prove, and prove it they did

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.04.16 21:05:07 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 76) : Top moment…

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.04.16 22:00:27 by pastorshark Reply
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  • well it has cost Samuels 30% of his match fee.

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/03/marlon-samuels-ben-stokes-shane-warne

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.04.16 23:21:52 by Voodoo Rookin Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 78) :
    Fake face…lol.
    No love lost there

  • Comment 79, posted at 04.04.16 05:33:18 by nortie Reply

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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 48) : For me its really quiete easy – 2 questions need to be answered, firstly, were either the Sharks or the Lions ever in a position to win their game against the Crusaders and secondly if so, for how long were they in that position. To my knowledge the Lions were never in a position to win this game and so the second part of the question is a moot point while the Sharks were always within a chance of winning the game, right until the final whistle.

  • Comment 80, posted at 04.04.16 08:51:08 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @nortie (Comment 74) : “No brains”…..that now puts the West Indian (was it Bishop) commentators words into perspective soon after the game was won when he said something to the effect of “now that is the way how you win a game with brains”, it seemed a bit weird at the time but now makes sense.
    Anyway this was one of my best sporting moments for a long time. I also enjoyed their win against India a lot.

  • Comment 81, posted at 04.04.16 08:55:44 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @nortie (Comment 74) : I just somehow hope that this win will so grab the Islands that they can once again become the feared test playing nation that they were.

  • Comment 82, posted at 04.04.16 09:00:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Voodoo Rookin (Comment 56) : Great comment. Its something ive said for a long time. The SA players technique and intelligent physicality at the breakdown is something that has been a weak point for quite a while and which is what leads to a lot of teams playing the kick and defend gameplan. SA players need to be getting off the floor quicker and cleaning past the ball to create quick ball. The ball placement an accuracy of the cleaners need to be more precise, how often do you see the ball bouncing around and being kicked by SA players cleaning a ruck

  • Comment 83, posted at 04.04.16 09:09:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Just my thoughts on the game i was interested in this weekend as it could almost be a direct comparison for the Sharks vs Crusaders game. I think a mate of mine summed it up perfectly when he said the Sharks vs Crusaders resembled a test match game but Lions vs Crusaders resembled a varsity cup game in terms of the different approaches in both games. So what can we take out of this…well the Sharks can take a few attacking concepts that the Lions did well and the Lions can take a few defensive concepts from the Sharks as you cant concede 6 tries and win games often.

  • Comment 84, posted at 04.04.16 09:12:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 81) :
    Yep. They must have pasted those quotes all over their dressing room.
    They certainly answered their critics with the best way possible.

  • Comment 85, posted at 04.04.16 12:03:37 by nortie Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 82) : I think that won’t happen without changes to the structure of the international game. As long as Aus, Eng, India (all of whom I now rabidly anti-support) keep hogging all the money and the likes of the West Indies and Sri Lanka don’t get a reasonable share, they will simply not be able to afford their own best players. That is the rotten core of international cricket…

  • Comment 86, posted at 04.04.16 12:09:48 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @nortie (Comment 73) : thanx ja must say think it’s bad almost reminds me of the Kings saga!

  • Comment 87, posted at 04.04.16 14:34:20 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 87) : Speaking of the Kings saga i see their players wont be paid during the CC so will operate as an amateur side with academy, u19 and u21 players

  • Comment 88, posted at 04.04.16 14:44:57 by SheldonK Reply

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