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Sharks tour squad named – updated


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 9 Apr 2016 at 23:52
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The Sharks have opted to include 16 forwards and eleven backs in their Super Rugby tour squad, which will play three games in New Zealand, starting with the Blues next weekend.

Marcell Coetzee, whose name is included in the squad list, is however highly unlikely to tour, having sustained a potentially serious knee injury against the Lions. The Sharks have yet to confirm the prognosis for the flanker, or who his replacement will be.

Gary Gold has stuck, by and large, with the group that has done duty in Super Rugby to date, with only reserve prop Juan Schoeman and lock Giant Mtayanda omitted. Dale Chadwick and Thomas du Toit come into the group to complete a five-prop contingent that also contains Springboks Tendai Mtawarira, Lourens Adriaanse and Coenie Oosthuizen. Chiliboy Ralapelle looks set for his first taste of Sharks action, as third hooker to Franco Marais and Kyle Cooper.

Lock Stephan Lewies, who was withdrawn just before the Lions game, will be on the plane, with Hyron Andrews and Etienne Oosthuizen the only other second row men. Apart from the in-doubt Coetzee, the du Preez twins, Keegan Daniel and Philip van der Walt are the loose forwards.

Amongst the backs, S’bura Sithole is the only man to be added to the ten-strong group that played against the Lions. Cobus Reinach and Mike Claassens are the scrumhalves, Joe Pietersen and Garth April the flyhalves, while Sithole will add utility cover at centre and wing, with Andre Esterhuizen and Paul Jordaan the only out-and-out mid-fielders in the group. Odwa Ndungane, JP Pietersen, Lwazi Mvovo and Wille le Roux round out the tour party.

Update: The Sharks have confirmed that Jean Deysel will tour in Coetzee’s place.

Sharks tour group:
Beast Mtawarira, Dale Chadwick, Thomas du Toit, Coenie Oosthuizen, Lourens Adriaanse, Franco Maraius, Kyle Cooper, Chiliboy Ralapelle, Etienne Oosthuizen, Stephan Lewies, Hyron Andrews, Jean Deysel, Jean-Luc du Preez, Daniel du Preez, Philip van der Walt, Keegan Daniel
Cobus Reinach, Michael Claassens, Joe Pietersen, Garth April, Andre Esterhuizen, Paul Jordaan, S’bura Sithole, JP Pietersen, Odwa Ndungane, Lwazi Mvovov, Willie le Roux



92 Comments

  • Good luck guys!!! I’m sure you’re going to need it as this is the start of a tough tour!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.04.16 00:04:45 by JD Reply
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  • Any news on when Potgieter will be ready? Sharks need him to get us going forward.

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.04.16 03:13:23 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • We need our pack to start dominating opponents. Gold needs to think outside the box. We can’t continue going into such games with nice locks and not make up that lack of mongrel elsewhere in the pack. Deysel should come in at 4 to give our tight 5 some respect. Add Chilli at hooker then we are in business. In fact, with Marcel’s injury, he shouldn’t hesitate to replace him with Deysel as the starting 6. Can someone talk to Coenie about his body position at scrum time. What do these coaches do if they can’t even spot that Coenie’s shoulders are never parallel to the tryline at scrum time meaning he has lost the scrum even before it starts. We have a problem at 9 and 10. Time for Claasens and April to start.

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.04.16 04:26:54 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • What do I know, but my thinking is the coaches missed a trick by opting for continuity above all else. It seems to me that JPP should have been dropped long ago, Willie as well. None of the Sharks really had a good night except maybe Keegan. The second-stringers and replacements like April, Mjekevu, Ndungane, Claasens (with Ungerer as reserve) deserve a shot. I would have cleaned house with at least 5 changes. This isn’t technically a gripe, merely (unprofessional, incomplete, fan-based) constructive criticism…because the director has to get something going on for the sake of us beleaguered fans.

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.04.16 06:17:54 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 4) : As long as Gary is there forget rotation as that would mean Gary was wrong about certain players. He publicly said he sees April as a 15, so starting him at 10 ahead of Joe would mean he was wrong. Robert du Preez needs to convince his son to come solve our distribution problems at 12. Don’t know what is going to happen or is to be done with Cobus’ understanding of momentum rugby.

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.04.16 08:16:59 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Can someone plz tell me what were gonna do if esterhuizen gets injured on tour , lol are we gonna play Jean luc du Preez at 12

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.04.16 08:23:42 by shrodingers cat Reply

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  • When last did we lose against the Blues, excluding next weekend?

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.04.16 08:27:30 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @shrodingers cat (Comment 6) : Could play le roux there and fill on the gap at 15?

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.04.16 09:04:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The team is as expected. I don’t see any problem with the positions. And while I think we could have had one less hooker I understand The hesitation to have the untested Chilliboy be the the only backup for Franco. I too would like to know when Jackpot will be ready. His versatility could help us a lot.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.04.16 09:07:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 9) : You cannot risk traveling without a spare prop and hooker. You could forfeit a game if you have a late injury and can’t get a replacement out in time

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.04.16 09:25:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : Ja makes sense. These specialist positions are tricky. Too bad we don’t have a prop hooker utility. So a question. How does the replacement from home rule work in SR. Same as world cup where player must be injured and sent home before you send in a new one? Or can you send one home as soon as a better option becomes available?

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.04.16 09:32:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @shrodingers cat (Comment 6) : Jordaan can move one inside and Sithole at 13.

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.04.16 11:22:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • The Sharks this year have saved their worst rugby for their home fans.
    Last night we were beaten by a fitter ,stronger and most importantly better disciplined team.
    Total lack of discipline that begins in the coaches box.
    Gold’s lack of self control is evident every time the camera cuts to him in his box.
    What I wouldn’t give for the calm head of Swys deBruin in the box and Warren Whitely on the field.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.04.16 11:23:56 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : think letting bissie go when he still wanted to play for the sharks,might have been a mistake.brings serious competitive attitude to the match,and still very good at the breakdown.

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.04.16 11:42:14 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 14) : And absolutely no discipline,he was the start of a bad culture that endures today.
    We were always good when we were led by calm strong men like Gary Teich and Mark Andrews,very similar to the New Zealand on field leaders like Reid and McCaw.Only guy we have like that is Daniel and Bismarck destroyed his relationship with the players.
    Beast just doesn’t have it,Marcel did then Gold like a spoilt kid took away the captaincy when he never renewed his contract,biggest mistake of the season.

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.04.16 11:49:35 by The hound Reply
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  • are teams restricted to 27 man touring squads ?

    I’m ok with us mostly using the same team against the blues, but then for the next two games in NZ we need to change the team up alot

    thus we’l have a fresh team from canes at home

    and jaguares away

    and then lions in jozi

    its going to be tough

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.04.16 12:21:50 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • According to SA Rugby Mag Marcell is out for about 9 months. Bad luck for him and for SA rugby. He was having a great season

    I hope his recovery goes well and is quicker than indicated

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.04.16 14:23:04 by Baylion Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 16) : it is kings in dbn before the break for the june tests.play lions on the 2nd of july in jhb,followed by the cheetahs and sunwolves in dbn.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.04.16 14:31:19 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 15) : mark andrews was one of the more fiery players in any team he played for.was also let go too soon by the sharks imo.perhaps had another 3 seasons left at the sharks.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.04.16 14:35:28 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 15) : Spot on

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.04.16 15:17:23 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • our technique in all parts of your play both defense and attach are no where near the level of the lions.

    I still feel we’re a better team than the stormers, but on strength of schedule we’l end up with less points than them thus all the stormers supporters down here will glout, sucks to live outside of the province of your favourite team.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.04.16 16:58:24 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @shrodingers cat (Comment 6) : That was exactly what I was thinking…although Jordaan played a 12 last season and would surely slot in there… :lol: I just answered my own question…

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.04.16 17:28:54 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 12) : Or you answered it for me first… :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.04.16 17:30:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 17) : If that is correct then we have seen Marcell play his last game for the Sharks…for now… :cry:

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.04.16 17:32:32 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 21) : Mate, since the Stormers game we’ve been getting worse by the week. How some here actually believed that we were improving is enough for a master thesis on fan delusion.

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.04.16 17:35:37 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 3) : April and Claassens the way forward. Reinach made a decent break but at scrummie did not seem that effective; once the ball rolled out of the ruck and he almost caught it too late. Joe Pietersen has also faded somewhat, is light in the tackling department and the truth be told he perhaps needed a drop to the bench after missing that kick against the bulls. I’m not advocating wholesale changes but some guys haven’t been putting up their hands for a week or two now and a few splinters in the bum and giving someone else a shot might be good. As far as I’m concerned as well JPP is not on board and may as well make way for a player with more hunger and move to Japan now. It may sound harsh, but I just look at the guy and no longer see a genuine Shark but a merc.

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.04.16 17:58:43 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 26) : I don’t know if you saw Ashton’s try for Sarries vs Saints, but that is the kind of thing absent from JPP’s game. Not to mention the service from de Kock, brilliant general play and set phase basics from Britz at hooker and go- forward from Barritt at 12.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.04.16 18:12:18 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 26) : imo jpp is playing good rugby.he is making his tackles and running hard when in possesion.

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.04.16 18:52:11 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • People,back in 2007 the sharks were beaten 10-21 by the brumbies at home.and that scoreline flattered the team’s performance on the day.the players did try yesterday.unfortunately there were handling errors,too many,that stopped the rhythm on attack.scrum penalties?beast was not happy with the decisions.handling errors is defdinitely something the team needs to work on.re: scrum penalties: seems it is all about the ref’s interpretation ,and his assistants.

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.04.16 18:59:00 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • The sharks were denied a victory vs saders by one tmo call,and that win would have been just reward for a superb defensive effort.slipped a kicked with time over on the clock away to the bulls.last night far too many passes were dropped and the scrum calls went against the sharks.

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.04.16 19:05:23 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Just to take stock:

    Impi “cheated” out of their rightful shot at Varsity Cup.

    Sharks lose ugly….again.

    Blitzbokke lose to NZ….again.

    And for what little I care about soccer, Man U also lost.

    Time to take up knitting perhaps?

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.04.16 21:33:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 27) : I think since the French games we have not really been a threat. Sure we have a defense and if GIVEN a chance we could hold our own for long enough to win on the other teams mistakes. Thanks to good defense. But I have seriously not seen clinical and intimidating sharks attack this whole series so far. Some other factors have been masking that deficiency. I know we are capable of doing it but something is off..

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.04.16 06:58:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I suppose this Sharks squad is as expected. Marcel out will be a big loss. And when last did Chadwick play? Same with Chilliboy? Hope they just there in case of emergency. Sharks need to look at 3 things to improve results…Body position at scrum time, Reducing numbers needed to secure our own ball, And then we need a 10/12 axis that can distribute as Pieterson/Esterhuizen arent that combo. I wouldnt mind Jordaan and JPP moved closer in with either Esterhuizen or Sithole on the wing.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.04.16 08:27:09 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : First time this year our discipline was a problem. And it was because of the insane amount of scrum penalties awarded to the lions.

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.04.16 09:21:11 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Chilli should sort out our lineout, and if I remember correctly he’s a good scrummager.

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.04.16 09:23:26 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 35) : My last memory of him before he was banned was him having his ass handed to him by Leicester during a Bok midweek game. So im definitely not backing him to do anything

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.04.16 09:26:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : do you think with jpp moving to europe next season,the sharks should perhaps have a look at esterhuizen on the wing?defensively,he is very strong at no12,has a big boot.so still would like to see him get time their.needs to work on other aspects of his game,ie handling,passing.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.04.16 09:34:03 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Sharks a bit thin on the openside flank.perhaps cloete should have been pursued.the sharks also had a few more injuries than they would expect .out:kleinhans during pre-season,majola coming back from injury now.marcell out for the season.leaves the team with just keegan to cover no6.

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.04.16 09:40:48 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 37) : They seem to have put all their faith into him at 12…so cant see them changing that. However…his lack of distribution and deception will hamper the sharks attack. Could he play successfully on the wing…i think so yes. He was originally at fullback but to play there he would need to lose a good 10kg or so.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.04.16 09:46:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I remember that JPP was voted the best12 in the Jap league,last year and he was in wit some illustrious opposition.
    That is where he should be playing ,the man is too lazy and disinterested to leave out on the wing.
    Put him where he has to work and he will be devastating.

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.04.16 10:11:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 40) : I assume you meant best 13? And yeh i tend to agree. Who would you play at 12 though?

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.04.16 10:18:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : IMO, we should play Heimar at 12,he is a but smaller than estrhuizen, but his distribution and flair makes up for the “lack” in size, then move Jpp to 13,we can the rotate Jordaan and Sithole on 14,and if mvovo is in need if rest we can get them to cover there also

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.04.16 10:26:58 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 42) : That is may thinking as well. Unfortunately Heimar Williams isnt going on tour.

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.04.16 10:28:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : look I stand to be corrected but I am sure it was 12.

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.04.16 10:37:32 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 43) : That is true, and sad at that, just another prospect I was pondering now, whilst mowing the lawn, your thought tend to run around, has any one thought of the possibility of Sithole at 12, I’m comparing him now to Benjamin of the cheetahs, they both have sevens experience, he is utterly strong, Likes to be involved and his defense is top notch?

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.04.16 10:38:05 by Henkb Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 44) : It was definitely 13…although he could possibly play 12 but im not sure how good his distribution is.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.04.16 10:47:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 45) : In my opinion Sithole at 12 would be exactly like Esterhuizen…he would run hard and straight but there wont be much distribution and deception. Ive always been a fan of play makers at 10/12 and i think the best attacking sides have that.

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.04.16 10:48:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 47) : That’s true also, if you take the looks of beale, crotch, de Jong ext, in our current squad we don’t really have any one else except for Heimar and Deysel, the Namibian guy, estrhuizen is a good battering ram, his defense is good and he does have a huge boot on him

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.04.16 10:57:56 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 48) : Apparently Deysel is back at the Leopards so we only have Heimar and then youngsters like Marius Louw. Cant think of anyone else. I truly believe the Sharks attacking issues are caused by the number of players we need to secure our own ball and the lack of deceptive distribution at 12.

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.04.16 11:00:51 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 48) : @SheldonK (Comment 49) : That’s a pity because I think Deysel is a good player. I like Esterhuizen’s defence though, really solid in tackles. But we need someone to distribute more, Heimar could do it, but he’s not in the touring squad so who is backup for Esterhuizen then?

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.04.16 11:19:21 by Quintin Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : Robert du Preez. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.04.16 11:25:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 42) : with you 100% it’s time to change something as the current back line seems unable to do anything other than tackle!

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.04.16 11:28:10 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 51) : The coach? Im not sure his time over 40m is the best these days ;)

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.04.16 11:29:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 49) : @ Quintin(comment 50) it is a real putty that we don’t have his services anymore, I don’t see Estherhuizen getting a break then anytime soon, as Heimar is left here in SA it would solve a lot of issues if we have decision makers at 12 and 10,that can inter change regularly

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.04.16 11:30:27 by Henkb Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 52) : With the squad for the tour selected i cant see how they could change too much

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.04.16 11:30:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 44) : @SheldonK (Comment 46) : yes JPP played 13 in Japan.

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.04.16 11:30:43 by JD Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 54) : Yeh with this tour squad selected i cant see anyone other than Esterhuizen playing 12 in every game

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.04.16 11:31:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 56) : Bow( deep Japanese bow) to your superior knowledge.

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.04.16 11:32:49 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 55) : yes I know. Pity though as I believe he’s a better 12 than Andre.

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.04.16 11:33:51 by JD Reply
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  • What was Deysel’s injury ,he seems to have been out since his last red card,months ago.

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.04.16 11:35:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 58) : only know it because I was surprised that they rated him higher than Richard Kahui.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.04.16 11:37:24 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 57) : If and I know this is just dream say with all the injuries we have currently, but if there were none to speak of, I would have 9 classes, 10 April /lambie, 12 lambie/ Heimar, 13 JPP / sithole, 14 Jordaan/ Sithole, 11 mvovo, 15 Willie / April

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.04.16 11:37:49 by Henkb Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 61) : Kahui had a season in Japan, also surprised by the ratings

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.04.16 11:38:54 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 62) : Look if all fit and able then the backline of 9. Claasens 10. Lambie 11. Mvovo 12. Williams 13. Jordaan 14. Sithole 15. LeRoux would work well i believe. You could then play Reinach, April and JPP/Esterhuizen off the bench which would give good impact.

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.04.16 11:46:09 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 63) : for sure! The game I saw Kahui was very good.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.04.16 11:49:43 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 64) : I do hope that when we are back from tour they would give Heimar a run at 12, and maybe use Andre of the bench as impact either on wing or at 12

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.04.16 11:52:55 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 66) : I think it depends how he goes with the Sharks CC side and also Andre’s injury status. The guys playing for the Sharks CC side on Fri night didnt do themselves many favours

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.04.16 11:55:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 66) : I am curious about the pecking order at 12…it seems Andre is no.1 and Williams a very distant 2. But who would be 3?

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.04.16 11:57:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 67) : No they didn’t in all my life with the players they had in the match day 23 I would never have thought of a Boland team beating us, I would also like to see Deysel back now with the injury to Marcell as I don’t think they must shift oosthuizen to flank again, he is just starting to find his feet on lock

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.04.16 11:58:02 by Henkb Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 68) : That is another issue, I don’t think we have a distant 3 either way, even if it is a far distant, I could see Bosch there in future but he is not ready for the likes of Super rugby as yet

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.04.16 11:59:52 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 70) : ooh dear no not Bosch- he is a turnstyle on defense. Id rather play Lambie at 12.

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.04.16 12:02:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 71) : I have not seen much of Bosch as yet, only know that he played 12 in one farcity cup game for the impi, if not we should maybe ask our CEO to import a prospect at 12, would really like Johan Deysel with what I have seen of him at the world cuo

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.04.16 12:05:02 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 72) : Bosch is fantastic going forward but yeh his defense is really not good, unless the guy trips over him. I liked the Look f Johan Deysel, bummed he didnt get contracted. Ive also like the look of Marius Louw…just wonder if he can translate that into senior rugby

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.04.16 12:07:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 69) : nick mallett coached a boland team back in the 90s that beat a natal team full of boks (in wellington),so not the 1st time :D

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.04.16 12:11:48 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 73) : Must admit I have not seen anything on louw as yet, that seems to be a bit hurdle these days, to a lot of the unions the step up from junior rugby to senior rugby for a lot of talented guys, guys that gets rated way to much a juniors and then falls away when they make the step up, to be honest I really thought at one stage that we would give small Smith a go when he announced that he was leaving the bulls

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.04.16 12:14:05 by Henkb Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 74) : I think these guys also just wanted to pitch up for the game, a pity that it was not televised so that we could actually see, or maybe it was a good thing, in the 90′s I was still running around playing cowboy and crooks did not know about that result

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.04.16 12:16:32 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 76) : Yeh look it was a pretty decent Boland team and the Sharks side was a thrown together with no much motivation i expect. Still doesnt bode too well for our depth…

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.04.16 12:20:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 77) : That is the big question what about our dept, as most of the guys that was playing is part of the Super rugby squad, and yes they were thrown together, think the lack of game time on most of them was also a huge factor, you can be gym fit ext, but nothing comes to being game fit

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.04.16 12:24:36 by Henkb Reply
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  • Bosch should be considered at 10 and 15.inny is a 10.would like rhyno smith looked at for next season at 15 and wing with jpp leaving.

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.04.16 12:26:27 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 78) : It seems Sharks sides throughout have a problem getting motivated for games. I may be wrong but i get the feeling that at the Sharks its still the individual before the team mentality

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.04.16 12:28:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 80) : I saw it on Saturday also, it looked like the bye week actually did us no favors, as it seemed the guys were more motivated for the previous game than what they were for this game, at one instance I saw Jordaan walking on the field after the ball was lost, as if he was saying here we go again, no use in me trying to stop the counter attack

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.04.16 12:31:07 by Henkb Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 79) : Think we have great prospects at 10 and 15, Willie can also be shifted to wing and I think if the other guys can give him more freedom he will become a devastating player for us

  • Comment 82, posted at 11.04.16 12:32:37 by Henkb Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 80) : @Henkb (Comment 81) : think the guys might have had one foot on the plane and maybe already demotivated even before the official start of the tour from hell!?!?

  • Comment 83, posted at 11.04.16 12:45:35 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 83) : The tour is tough but players like touring to be honest. Its exciting and something new. And great for team bonding. So yes the onfield stuff is tough but off the field it can be an exciting time. I wouldnt think that would be an excuse

  • Comment 84, posted at 11.04.16 12:54:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 83) : No beating around the Bush, our game on Saturday was spectacularly bad, there was glimpses through out the game that we wanted to play, bar a few calls from the ref that I could not understand also, we were actually never in the game, Joe had a bad day at the office as does anyone at some stage, I think if this was recognized earlier and the sub with April was done earlier thing might have looked a bit different, but they really seemed as if they were not interested in being at the game

  • Comment 85, posted at 11.04.16 13:05:58 by Henkb Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 74) : @Henkb (Comment 76) They didnt only beat us, they had a whole host of big name scalps to their credit. That was a great team and was where Mallet showed that he could coach. I was mad about that Boland team, and about Mallet. I still like the Boland teams…..:

  • Comment 86, posted at 11.04.16 13:06:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 86) : Mallett is a good coach, if you look what he did with Italy and where they are now, Boland is a good union, if you take the talent that has come from them or the guys that played for them over the last couple of years, our own Mr Tereblance comes from them alsi

  • Comment 87, posted at 11.04.16 13:12:48 by Henkb Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 53) : the Blond one, not the grey one. Mind you I wouldnt mind know what Rob snr’s sprint time is.

    Speaking of old toppies sprinting, I was gobsmacked to see that Paul Blackbeard swam this years Midmar Mile in a bit over a minute slower than he did it when he won it back in 1977, a full 39 years earlier. :shock: :cool:

  • Comment 88, posted at 11.04.16 13:15:49 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 88) : haha the physical condition the blonde one is in now i reckon the old one would beat him over 40m ;) And yeh i saw that Blackbeard swim time…impressive stuff. Guess some guys are just class

  • Comment 89, posted at 11.04.16 13:22:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 82) : i would prefer willie to stay at no15 rather than go to the wing :D but i would really like a look at smith on the wing.

  • Comment 90, posted at 11.04.16 13:45:56 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 90) : I would also, Smith should deserve a look at, the good thing with Willie is that he can cover more than one position and if we can give him some space and freedom, he should give us the points we know he can score

  • Comment 91, posted at 11.04.16 14:10:15 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 85) : really hope they perform better against the Blues!

  • Comment 92, posted at 11.04.16 14:48:02 by JD Reply
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