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Blues break Sharks hoodoo (and hearts)


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 16 Apr 2016 at 11:35
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A late penalty from Ihaia West has sealed a 23-18 win for the Blues over the Sharks at Eden Park.

In a game that featured a fair bit of entertaining, free flowing rugby (but also plenty of mistakes from either side), the hosts had the better of play in the final quarter to overturn an earlier 8-point lead to the men from Durban. As the visitors faded – their strong defensive efforts earlier having taken a physical toll – it was the Blues who took control, scoring 13 unanswered points in the last half hour to wrest victory, their first over the Sharks in ten years.

An early penalty to West saw his side take a 3-0 lead, but that was to be the last time the Blues would be in front until that final quarter, as the Sharks scored an impressive try through Beast Mtawarira about midway through the first half. Joe Pietersen missed the conversion, but added two penalties to take his side out to 11-3. A score just before the hooter, which went to replacement centre George Moala, brought the Blues back in touch and there was only a single point in it at the break.

A moment of Willie le Roux magic early in the second half turned the tables once more, with Paul Jordaan the recipient of the pass after a great break from the fullback. The number 13 finished well and with Pietersen’s conversion, the Sharks lead 18-10. Signs of fatigue were starting to creep in, though and after West had narrowed the gap via a penalty, right wing Rico Ioane flummoxed Beast Mtawarira with a deft step to break through and score the equaliser. West added the extras and succeeded with a penalty on the hooter to secure the five-point win.

Blues (23): Tries George Moala, Rico Ioane. Conversions Ihaia West (2). Penalties West (3).
Sharks (18): Tries Beast Mtawarira, Paul Jordaan. Conversion Joe Pietersen. Penalties Pietersen (2).



103 Comments

  • Can live with this result as youngsters still learning. We need to sort attacking lineouts under pressure. Those 3 poor lineouts in a row cost us badly

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.04.16 11:42:28 by Kabouter Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 1) : Being 18-10 up with 20 to play we shouldn’t have lost it. Our defence disappeared in the las quarter, one thing that has been pretty fantastic in the second half thus far this season

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.04.16 11:44:28 by jdolivier Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 2) : Can’t fly around the world and expect a team to make around 200 tackles. Commentators called it and it showed in the last 10min.

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.04.16 11:55:25 by YamYam Reply
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  • Just had to make too many tackles.need a “fetcher” if the emphasis is on defence.and none of this talk of everyone must be a fetcher.some players seems better at it than others.you need the hound type of player in the defensive system who moves from tackle to tackle contesting the tackle ball.

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.04.16 11:56:32 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @YamYam (Comment 3) : Agreed. The main issue we have is Joe Pietersen, which is unfortunate. When April comes on, we seem to want to attack more. With Joe we just revert back to Jake ball. Hence all the tackling required

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.04.16 11:57:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • All the Gary Gold fans say what’s up!!!! Clown to remove Phillip when he was our best player on the field. Are the twins untouchable????

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.04.16 11:59:08 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • 99% chance of exact same team next week, same idiotic subs at the same time and a bigger drubbing …… Going to start ignoring my heart in Bru from now on too

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.04.16 11:59:16 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @YamYam (Comment 3) : with the ioane try,the sharks seemed to have more than enough players on defensive vs attackers.problem seems they were in too tight a defensive line leaving beast and marais to cover too much space between them.

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.04.16 12:00:30 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Positives – the two tries were well constructed, a good offloading and passing game at times.

    Negatives – line out shambles in the second half, discipline (although some Peyper calls were questionable, also some stupid decisions from some players), players guilty of play watching at times (some really sluggish reactions at times), handling and retaining ball as usual

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.04.16 12:02:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 6) : as the commentator said at the time: seemed like not the right thing to do,but that vd walt looked finished.must remember vd walt has had a concussion and neck injury already this season.

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.04.16 12:05:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • look some good signs this week,with Lewies in the team scrums much better line outs too. 12 /13 combination is starting to settle.
    Problem area 9 and 10 again,but with Pat back soon that should improve as well.
    Keegan looked good as well and it was encouraging to see Thomas back.
    Today Lawazi couldn’t catch a taxi,and where the hell is Sithole.

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.04.16 12:06:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 6) : To be fair to Gold wander Walt is fresh back from injury and it was probably a pregame precaution.

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.04.16 12:08:20 by The hound Reply
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  • Why do I keep watching this? What is so compulsive and irresistible about watching the Sharks do themselves in week after week?

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.04.16 12:08:33 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Loosies were impressive with vd walt imo sharks motm.

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.04.16 12:08:44 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Peyper didnot allow us to compete for the ball on the ground. This is where teams hurt the Blues. But somehow we were penalised for trying to steal the ball. Must say we playedsom decent rugby but still you cannot travel to NZ and just defend. Your legs wont last. Couple of forced back flips which ifyou draw the man and then pass normally he is away. Could see it was forced but over time we will become better at it.

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.04.16 12:09:27 by ebenp Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 12) : Sharks lost 5 out of 16 lineouts in total (69% success rate). That is simply not good enough at this level.

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.04.16 12:11:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • GreatShark, I assume the untouchable twins remark is because their dad is part of the coaching staff?

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.04.16 12:12:30 by Lieplapper Reply

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  • Nice to see the sharks bring willie into 1st receiver position at times.

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.04.16 12:14:19 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 6) : twins overrated big time

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.04.16 12:15:40 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 11) : Agreed, but both our wings were pedestrian. Everyone was giving Odwa a hard time but I would start him before JPP.

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.04.16 12:16:15 by YamYam Reply
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  • Ruck and turnover stats says it all for me.

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.04.16 12:16:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @ebenp (Comment 16) : thought the behind-the-back pass from lewies showed a fair bit of flair.didnt work tonight,but maybe in another game.sometimes that is the pass to make,and i thought he read it well.

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.04.16 12:17:15 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 19) : brilliant players for sure, but being treated like they are both Gary Teichmann already

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.04.16 12:18:45 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 19) : Yup. They need to learn how to hold on to a ball. If they aren’t knocking they are letting the opposition take it from them. Also late to the rucks and not trying hard enough to turnover or steal. I hope that aspect gets fixed. Then they would be a force to be re conned with. Next time start keegan.

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.04.16 12:19:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Why do we have to have kyle cooper on our books?

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.04.16 12:20:11 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : Yes. Some players can pull it off. But we have not seen it on 6 games. So new and we will do it smarter. Today it looked a bit forced

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.04.16 12:20:12 by ebenp Reply

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  • The twins played well tonight.the loosie combo needs a fetcher-type player.injury to marcell is huge.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.04.16 12:21:31 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 21) : The Blues is a team whose first instinct is to run the ball – a commentator mentioned that they are the team that plays the longest with the ball of all teams. They also protect the ball pretty well – so you will struggle making turnovers, especially without an established open side flank like Marcel.

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.04.16 12:21:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 27) : I would start the next game with 6. Keegan, 7. JL Dup, 8. Ninja and bring Dan Dup on as reserve. The Dup brothers make a lot of tackles – especially JL.

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.04.16 12:23:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Du Preez bros are big boys. But gym big and strenght to holf onto thr ball 2 different things. Guy like Joe is small but he can hold onto the ball in tackle… As example. They will learn to not worry about “killing” opposition in contact but rather to secure ball.

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.04.16 12:25:25 by ebenp Reply

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  • Sharks missed the trick it seems by letting cloete leave.need to recruit him .another 80min fetcher-type loosie.needs to learn when to curb his enthusiasm at the breakdown,but is all-action.

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.04.16 12:26:01 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • In all honesty today was the first time I saw improvement. Still feel we don’t respect possession and kick or give away ball cheaply.

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.04.16 12:27:41 by YamYam Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : if rhyno smith was in the squad,i’d give him no15 and start willie at no10.big call.if the player was there.with keegan as linking player.

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.04.16 12:31:25 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • This game was definitely lost at the breakdown.

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.04.16 12:36:58 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Time for some fresh faces asap, even beast needs a break, I want to see sithole, K majola, majola the prop, the namibian lock, wandile mjekevu, april, chilli boy. Get game time in the next two games, send the others home to prep for landers at home with lambie

    blues were very got at the end of this game and their the worst NZ team, wow, Tana doing a good job with a talented group

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.04.16 13:14:17 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 35) : We play the Landers next – you mean the Canes at home?

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.04.16 13:17:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I thought van dear Walt had a fantastic match, couldn’t understand why he got subbed.
    Nice try by Jordaan and well

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.04.16 13:22:13 by nortie Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 36) : beast has clocked plenty of mins.would like to see him on the bench for next week’s game.it is a short turn-around.maybe even on the bench for the remaining 2 tour games.difficult to see that happen,though,with him being team captain.

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.04.16 13:38:37 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Hope to hell we have seen the last of toilet Peyper this season.
    That last penalty had Christian Cullen laughing over the commentary.
    Oosthiuzen did absolutely nothing wrong.
    It was almost as if Peyper decided that the Blues had to win the game.

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.04.16 13:49:15 by The hound Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 36) : start thomas at no1 or even coenie,with thomas to sub with adriaanse no3.chili into match 23.this might make @the hound happy: 3 locks in the team.it is a short turn-around.oosthuizen has played a lot of rugby.ddp at no4?with oosthuizen to sub ddp?lewies to start with ddp and subbed by andrews?loosies to start: vd walt,jl dp,keegan @Bokhoring.

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.04.16 13:49:32 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan: will either or both of ruan botha and potgieter be ready for the hurricanes game?

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.04.16 13:54:27 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • The comments on here about the twins are laughable,these are 20 year old boys playing against a full All Black trio.
    Christian Cullen who was with out a doubt the very best rugby player I ever saw, raved about them.
    They are 20 hell do you really expect 20 year olds to not make the occasional mistake playing against All Blacks.
    If I only had R10 for every time I saw Schalk Burger spill the ball in the tackle.
    As for the turkey above who thinks the twins are only in the team because their father is the coach, well in as polite
    a way as I can say it ,fuck off.

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.04.16 13:57:23 by The hound Reply
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  • Few hours after the game to think of this: maybe sharks should have let hyron jump at no2?lighter to pick-up.

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.04.16 14:00:57 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Keep the twins.they,hyron and thomas are still u21 this year.botha,lewies,oosthuizen are u25 this season.would be nice to get no3 wilco louw from the stormers.also still u21.

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.04.16 14:04:53 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 44) : And Marx and that young prop from the Lions,both under21 as well.

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.04.16 14:16:13 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 46) : lions u21 prop dylon smith is by the sound of things from dbn?

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.04.16 14:23:18 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • He’s the one I was talking about,didn’t know he was a Durban boy,

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.04.16 14:28:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 48) : born in dbn ,but matriculated at kes in jhb.just had a quick google search.seems he is 22 ,though.

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.04.16 14:30:30 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 46) : Nope good try born in Durban but schooled at K.E.S. and played all his junior rugby at the Lions.

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.04.16 14:31:19 by The hound Reply
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  • Snap.

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.04.16 14:31:51 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 50) : yes.also seems very much first-choice no1 prop at the lions.tough buy.

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.04.16 14:37:13 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 19) : I wouldn’t say overrated but there is a definitely a question to be asked about why Deysel, Phillip and even Keegan haven’t been given opportunities especially with us not getting to forward dominance all season and worse now that Marcell is out.

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.04.16 14:42:18 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • We lost to a poor Blues team, seems our confidence is shot.

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.04.16 15:06:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • We should have won the game. But come on guys. The twins and ginger were very good. The defence wasn’t as good when Dan, ginger and Reinach went off. Claasens was bad defensively and should have tackled ione.

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.04.16 15:16:10 by sudhir Reply

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  • As usual when we lose people have to start the scape-goating. Vd Walt is just back from injury and the twins are 20 years old…

    It’s going to be a tough tour for this young team. If you can’t back them, I believe that the Lions are quite popular this year.

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.04.16 15:20:19 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 41) : hopefully both

  • Comment 56, posted at 16.04.16 16:20:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • We certainly didn`t lose because of a few missed tackles.

    The problem is our ball retention, simple as that. You can`t win if you never have possession.

  • Comment 57, posted at 16.04.16 16:52:25 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Entertaining game by two very limited sides. We lost 5 lineouts, immediately handed back turnover possession at least 3 times and missed some crucial tackles. Probably the only difference between the sides.

  • Comment 58, posted at 16.04.16 17:45:21 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • The twins are young that’s what everyone says. But the fact is they cannot hold on to a ball. We cannot pay the price for their youth so they must be patient and wait. Start with the experience of Daniel and bench one of them. Also would be great to get Potgieter in soon. Adriaanse looks way better than Coenie at scrum time. The commentators at half time on sky said this team has so many aspects that ate great so why is it not coming together? I believe we need more experienced guys up front while the younger ones grow.

  • Comment 59, posted at 16.04.16 18:10:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 59) : I also think we are lacking senior Sharks guys up front.

    Currently, we only have Beast and Adriaanse…Ginja is a senior rugby player, but noob at the Sharks.

    As you say, start Daniel, 1x Du Preez, Ginja (or Potgieter). We have to start both Beast and Adriaanse.

    Our boys lost their nerve when calm was most needed….Cooper is one of the more senior Sharks guys, and he unravelled when Sharks needed him most.

  • Comment 60, posted at 16.04.16 18:37:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 59) : Damien McKenzie is also just 20 and we all know what he can do, such as rip experienced defenses to shreds. As Doc Craven said, if you’re good enough, you’re old enough.

  • Comment 61, posted at 16.04.16 18:42:31 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 61) : bissie was the big loss.

  • Comment 62, posted at 16.04.16 18:51:39 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 60) :
    Cooper puzzles me. For so long he had to play in the shadow of Bismarck and now, with Bissie gone, one would have thought he would grab this opportunity with both hands.
    Doesn’t even remotely look like he wants to be the first choice, poor discipline off the field and seems content to be the reserve hooker on the field.
    Very similar to Norm Hewitt being on the bench all those years behind Fitzpatrick, at least Norm tried to make a go at it after Fitzie had to retire.

  • Comment 63, posted at 16.04.16 18:56:02 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 63) : @50shadesofshark
    We’re in a bad place at hooker, Cooper was supposed to step up – now we have to field a pup at hooker, with Cooper really only there it seems, due to the Sharks unable to afford to field an untested pup from the bench.

    We will require patience whilst the Sharks get their balance on field, and in the coaching box to gel.

  • Comment 64, posted at 16.04.16 19:03:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 64) :
    Yep, sure looks like it.
    What’s the status on Chiliboy?
    No one even knows what form he will in, I have forgotten the last time I have even seen him play

  • Comment 65, posted at 16.04.16 19:13:08 by nortie Reply

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  • Sharks have always had shit lineout hooker and/or lock combinations. It’s endemic.

    OK, not always. John Allan, Mark Andrews and Steve Atherton did the job.

  • Comment 66, posted at 16.04.16 19:37:23 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 61) : As was proven in the past 3 games?

  • Comment 67, posted at 16.04.16 19:45:40 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 61) : So experience be damned? There are good enough and old enough as well. And with the experience to you both win and protect the ball and make the right decision at the right time. Who have already learned the lessons and practised those lessons that youngsters still have to.

  • Comment 68, posted at 16.04.16 19:49:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sharks need an attacking philosophy. This kick and hope shit that Gold loves needs to stop. We give the opposition so much ball and complain that we defend a lot. Wake up Gold. You are too conservative. Get lost. You don’t understand Sharks rugby.

  • Comment 69, posted at 16.04.16 20:15:45 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 68) : that is one of the most confusing things I have ever read,is Japanese your home language..

  • Comment 70, posted at 16.04.16 20:16:54 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 70) : I was wondering how to reply. :lol:

  • Comment 71, posted at 16.04.16 20:56:39 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 67) : The last 3 games McKenzie has played or the twins?

  • Comment 72, posted at 16.04.16 20:59:19 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 39) : Haha…toilet Peyper…good one… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 73, posted at 16.04.16 21:26:39 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 72) : Then let me clarify. You responded that old enough is good enough for the twins by citing the case of another player who is good enough. Except that this is an inditement against the twins. Since they have not been good enough. Spilling balls failing to protect or steal or make the right decision at the right times. We fall back to the “but you forget they are only 20″ argument. You just said that someone else at that age is doing more and better. So what is it then, are they too young, or simply not good enough yet compared to other 20 year old prodigies who are getting it right all of the time? My argument is not against them but against the fact that they are overrated. They may have talent and ability but they make too many mistakes not just now and then. While we are experimenting why not experiment with some experience as well. Something is not working in the sharks forwards pack and by process of elimination we must attribute a lot of our failures to some poor decisions and skills that are just not there yet. As much as people may want it to be so they might not be prodigies and may just be good athletes who need more time to hone skills and get there the hard and conventional way. Taking a backseat to the veterans.

  • Comment 74, posted at 16.04.16 22:21:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • even while watching the build up to our game last week i felt that we had a young team both starting 15 and match 23

    I figured we whole be behind the lions and possibly the stormers this year, but looks like we’re the fourth best team in sa behind also the bull, atleast in terms of results both now and i predict at the end of the season also

    Its tough, but this is not our year, yes things looked promising in pre season against decent if not great french teams, playinh fringe players looking to catch the eye and first team players either just trying to get fit, or in the case of luke M’c, wondering why his having to play the game.

    Losing lambie was a huge blow, I was happy when we got Joe P from the cheetahs cause he looked good for them last season, I wasny happy that fred went the other way, but maybe fred really want a better chance of starting, I sorta miss freddy now.

    The twins are good players but their clearly still finding their feet in SR, give them time, eventually they will be more affective

    Losing Ruan botha (the star signing IMHO) and pottie didnt help either.

    We looked weak at the end of todays game against the blues.

    Next year we play the ozzie teams, lets recruit a team with serious depth, get chris cloete, bring back JC askle, get lood, we’l have terra back hopefully, rotate, teach counie to scrum, give adriaanse a raise etc etc

    do everything you can to get us to play better cause im starting to get depressed

    by the way, I see our young gun sibusiso nkosi is with the blitz boks (future Noholo that kid)

    we’re going to have some serious backline options in their prime: nkosi, sithole, mjekevu, mvovo. Speed kills I tell yah

  • Comment 75, posted at 16.04.16 23:44:41 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 74) : Dude, I was agreeing with you. By saying if you’re good enough you’re old enough I was talking about McKenzie. In my opinion the twins are poor at ball retention, neither can fetch and don’t add anything in an area where we desperately need more options, such as the lineouts. The problem to me is that they keep making the same errors week after week.

    They have their strong points, such as not going to ground easily and decent offloads, but the negatives outweigh those.

  • Comment 76, posted at 17.04.16 08:05:20 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 76) : That’d why I clarified. I can see how you were getting mixed up with my comment 1 and 2. Sorry if the tone looked a bit snarky.

  • Comment 77, posted at 17.04.16 09:07:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 76) : Also I thought the old enough good enough comment was based in the twins. So I guess it’s my fault for not following the string.

  • Comment 78, posted at 17.04.16 09:08:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I wish Potgieter would be ready between him and Keegan we would at least have options we could try to isolate te problem.

  • Comment 79, posted at 17.04.16 09:10:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • …and the Blitzbokke do it again – lose the semi just as the clock goes red. :roll:

  • Comment 80, posted at 17.04.16 10:55:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Well, taking into account the squad over there, as well as the short turn around time, now is the opportunity for the director to make changes to inject freshness. I would select the following 15: Thomas du Toit, Chilliboy, Lourens Adriaanse, Etienne Oosthuizen, Stephan Lewies, Keegan Daniel, Jean Deysel, Philip van der Walt, Michael Claassens, Garth April, Andre Esterhuizen, S’Bura Sithole, Lwazi Mvovo, Odwa Ndungane, Willie le Roux. My thinking regarding the front row: Thomas and Lourens are solid (and Beast looks tired), and Chilliboy, well he might just be the spark that tears the kiwi scrum a new butt-hole. The man’s got 2 years of rugby kung-fu stored up in him waiting to come out. Keegan, Deysel and van der Walt look more balanced to me. Keegan has tricks up his sleeve, Deysel is a big ball carrier and van der Walt is bringing respect to Red-heads everywhere. Swapping the pivots would bring something new: the experience of Claassens and the unpredictability of April, rather than Reinach and the predictability of Joe. Paul Jordaan scored a good try and the only idea behind S’bura getting a bite at the apple is rotation. JPP has been milquetoast on defense and hasn’t executed an intercept try in ages (which it seems he is always trying to do, like from Bryan Habana’s box of tricks). JPP seems like he’s uninspired there; if you look at the World Cup last year he was motivated, but it simply doesn’t seem like it there at the Sharks. The status quo and squad line-up hasn’t achieved a positive result since the win at Newlands. I reckon it’s time for a change.

  • Comment 81, posted at 17.04.16 12:52:13 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • I’m just tired of the Sharks sucking.

  • Comment 82, posted at 17.04.16 12:57:25 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 82) : Get used to if the rest of this season.

    We field a meager 4 senior Sharks players (1 forward in Beast).

    Our coaching setup has again been overhauled…RdP and Strudwick added to Gold and Everit (with Everit being the seasoned Sharks SR man :shock: ).

    So Sharks-experience wise, we are thin….and only time together can fix this.

    Find another hobby over weekends, or make the Lions your second team, and back them as SA’s best hope for a cup win.

    This year, we’ll be supporting the Sharks for the love of the team.

  • Comment 83, posted at 17.04.16 13:51:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • At least Kenya won their first 7′s tournament cup, that alleviates a lot of the rugby pain this weekend.

  • Comment 84, posted at 17.04.16 14:13:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Regtig! Verskoon maar ek is regtig debliksem in en gatvol. Daar word gepraat van “goeie dinge” wat by die Sharks aan die gebeurs is maar dit lyk vir my na ‘n groot gemors. Die spelers lyk “sielkundig” moeg en het geen rigting. Ek dink “Mnr Smit” moet vir ons as ondersteuners se wat ons moet maak van die gemors en met hom en sy klopm “tjots” wat die span nie afrig nie maar “Opf***. Nee ons kan nie so aangaan nie. John Smit is jy tevrede – ons is nie.

  • Comment 85, posted at 17.04.16 14:51:58 by Bronzi Shark Reply

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  • @Bronzi Shark (Comment 85) : Bronzi, I somehow don’t think John Smit is happy with things; daar is seker baie druk op Gary Gold om the verseker dat die span ten minste die tweede posisie land op die puntelys vir Afrika 2. 2016 tot dusver is nie veel beter as 2015 nie. Ons is in die dwang

  • Comment 86, posted at 17.04.16 15:45:43 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 86) : Ek hoop regtig dat daar ‘n omkeer kom en dinge beter gaan. Kan nie glo ons moet jaar na jaar die selfde goed hoor en swak spel sien en tevrede wees – nee man die Sharks is mos ‘n trotse span wat al BAIE goed gespeel het in die verlede. Dink die tyd vir verskonings is verby. Dink die ondersteuners moet maar bymekaar kom en John Smit en Kie in sy kantoor gaan face. Genoeg is Genoeg. Die Sharks kan beter en verdien beter. Ek is regtig gatvol.

  • Comment 87, posted at 17.04.16 20:15:17 by Bronzi Shark Reply

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  • @Bronzi Shark (Comment 87) :

    Luca Bronzi and friends making JS an “offer he cannot refuse.” :smile:

  • Comment 88, posted at 17.04.16 21:12:11 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Anybody with a sensitive stomach should rather not watch the next two (probably to be safe three) games.

  • Comment 89, posted at 18.04.16 07:54:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 81) : You would have Jordaan on the bench? To me he is one of the highlights of the backline.

  • Comment 90, posted at 18.04.16 07:58:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I am also fascinated with the obsession with Deysel – especially as an open side. It really has been a long time since the guy has performed in a Sharks jersey. Not a bad fallback option in case of more injuries, but I would still prefer JL Dup at 7 and Keegan at 6.

  • Comment 91, posted at 18.04.16 08:05:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 89) : There’s just no quick fix to the current situation.

    I’d also caution those unable to o handle their drink, to stay away from all forms of social media, until they’ve sobered up.

  • Comment 92, posted at 18.04.16 08:12:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 88) : I might give you 1000 points for such a brilliant Godfather reference.

  • Comment 93, posted at 18.04.16 08:34:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • I find it very interesting reading these comments. A lot of people looking to lay blame on someone, anyone…and i guess i can understand that as people arent happy in general. Having had a bit of an inside chat to one of the injured guys last week and watching this week i can understand what he mans by the players are frustrated. They are making a lot of errors- and they definitely not intentional but those errors are ruining any continuity and chance to apply pressure on the opposition. Some players are making more handling errors and giving away more penalties than others. These errors have a confidence knock on effect especially at set piece time. So for me thats the one single area that if the Sharks improve they will be a massively different team. The one tactical mistake Gold di make was nto subbing Beast by the 50min as he was stuffed and too tired to get in line and hence missed the tackle for the try….and after that i watched him and he walked for the next 10min not making 1 tackle or carry etc until he was subbed in the 75th min eventually. Perhaps the idea of the co-captains like some of the NZ sides have is the better way to go now so you dont heavily rely on 1 guy.

  • Comment 94, posted at 18.04.16 08:51:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 94) : I think the biggest mistake Gold made was making him captain.Captaincy is a natural thing you can’y force it on some one.Beast does not chide and chase the troops like Warren Whitely or Adriaan Straus,Beast is too much of a shy nice guy.
    With so many youngsters in that team you need a strong man to lead by example,,Marcel was the right guy,but now we need a guy like Lewies to step up,to do what Sykes does at the Kings.
    Beast is probably the first guy to agree with that.

  • Comment 95, posted at 18.04.16 09:07:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 95) : I agree with your statement…i did have some reservations about Beast when he was appointed. I think he does alright in his first captaincy role but he doesnt have the legs to play more than 40min these days which does leave a bit of a problem. I agree that Marcel was the most logical choice and should have stuck with him-although now not much use saying that. I really dont think Lewies is the man either to be honest. The guy it should have gone to was either Phillip Van Der Walt or Claasens.

  • Comment 96, posted at 18.04.16 09:50:34 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 96) : Gold is far too obsessed with Reinarch to give it to Claassens ,and van der Walt is still an outsider.Lewies is a revelation he is a fantastic player,if he can remain fit he could just be the saviour our season.Scrums improve 50% when he plays we need to give that guy everything we can.,starting with the captaincy.

  • Comment 97, posted at 18.04.16 10:06:07 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 97) : I really wouldnt put all my chicken into the Lewies basket jsut yet…lets just let him get through half a dozen games without injury first. Picking an injury prone player as captain can cause headaches. But yes Lewies when fit is a great player. I think you right in that Gold has Reinach as his no.1. I still think Van Der Walt could do the job as nobody else has put up their hand…and its really just till Pat would return.

  • Comment 98, posted at 18.04.16 10:21:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 97) : Great leaders are not born great, they grow to be great leaders

  • Comment 99, posted at 18.04.16 10:29:24 by Henkb Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 78) : No worries bud! I should have been clearer as well. :grin:

  • Comment 100, posted at 18.04.16 11:05:32 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 99) : sort of, but they are born with ‘something’

  • Comment 101, posted at 18.04.16 11:34:55 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 101) : yes, you are correct, they are born with the willingness to lead where others fear to, I think we must just give beast a chance, this is his 1st outing as any form of a captain / leader at the sharks, his composure will come with expierence

  • Comment 102, posted at 18.04.16 11:39:30 by Henkb Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 97) : I like Lewies too. Great player

  • Comment 103, posted at 18.04.16 14:46:38 by robdylan Reply
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