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Fresh legs needed, Sharks?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 19 Apr 2016 at 08:00
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Having gone through almost half of their allotted Super Rugby matches already with virtually the same match 23 every week, I wonder if it’s now time for the Sharks to look at some rotation, in the interests of using their rather large squad a little better in this gruelling competition.

It’s a bit like that old joke about “the Pope has one, but doesn’t use it….”, referring, of course, to the gentleman’s surname, rather than any other piece of, erm, “equipment” that might come to mind. At the start of the year, we all looked at the depth available to the Sharks and wondered out loud if that might not turn out to be their trump card, given the awful draw. To me, it’s probably time to at least start moving that card to wards the front of the hand, if not playing it out right.

Having limited numbers available on tour means Gary Gold is not in the position to make sweeping changes ahead of Friday’s game, nor would I advocate doing that in any event. Given the short turnaround, though, I’d be very tempted to at least make a few changes to the 23, in the interests of ensuring every man on tour at least gets a run.

Prime target here must be Chiliboy Ralepelle, whom I’m sure we are all desperate to see in action after his signing was announced late last year. Both hookers had some line-out woes last week (although I feel Kyle Cooper’s have perhaps been overstated, since by my count he only had a single throw) and the Sharks desperately need to shore up this crucial set piece if they’re to progress in this competition. Ralepelle hasn’t played in a long time, but the accuracy of his throw-ins has always been a real strength of his game. I’m not sure I’d start him this week, but he’d definitely be on the bench.

The likes of Etienne Oosthuizen, Beast Mtawarira and the du Preez twins have all carried heavy workloads this year and I would think it’s clearly time to look at a measure of rotation in the pack. Dale Chadwick and Thomas du Toit are both available, as are Jean Deysel and Keegan Daniel and I’d like to see at least one or two of those guys in the starting fifteen this week; it’s perhaps a bit of a stretch to leave Beast out entirely, but certainly Deysel and Daniel could come in for starts, with the former perhaps even doing a job as a makeshift 4 while Oosthuizen enjoys a breather.

At the back, Garth April and S’bura Sithole have both had virtually no game time at all and with the mean in front of them not exactly setting the world alight, we surely have little to lose in giving them an opportunity to show what they can do.



76 Comments

  • Hopefully we don’t see Gold kick into full panic mode and be to scared to pick anything but his full ‘A team’.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.04.16 08:11:14 by Nostraseth Reply
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  • @Nostraseth (Comment 1) : Id like to see some rotation but i have a feeling he could go with same again.

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.04.16 08:42:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : Also think it will unfortunately be pretty much the same team.

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.04.16 08:45:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Kyle did only get one throw, but it was a really poor throw. The Blues player almost looked surprised when he stole the ball – like taking candy from a baby.

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.04.16 08:48:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : @Bokhoring (Comment 3) : Yeah I agree. Perhaps more rotation earlier on when we were still in SA would have been a better call. But then again I think Gold wanted the best possible start. O well let’s see what happens this week. Must say I actually really want to see CR and what sort of form he is in.

    Good Luck manne.

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.04.16 08:55:57 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 4) : Both our hookers throw the ball in too softly so its a lot easier for teams to compete on our ball. Watch all other good hookers and the speed of their throws is a lot harder which makes it tougher to compete

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.04.16 08:56:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Not wholesale changes, but I do agree that we will definitely benefit from a few fresh legs in a couple of positions. Chili and April comes to mind..

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.04.16 09:03:48 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : Which is one of the many reasons why we miss Bismarck so dearly.

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.04.16 09:05:16 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 5) : I really think there are the personnel on tour to give the team a fresh look but not overall detract from what they are trying to do this season in terms of combinations. I think Beast will still definitely start, so too will Adriaanse. Lewies will start and im hoping they play Andrews and give Oosthuizen a break. I think that Van Der Walt will start and if partnered by Daniel and JL DuPreez then Deysel can play off the bench. Would love to eee Claasens and April start. I cant see our centres changing but i think Sithole may come onto the bench and Odwa could start for either Mvovo or JPP. Willie will play 15.

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.04.16 09:06:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : The only thing probably standing between Burden and a Bok callup was his lineout work. One year in the French leagues and his lineout throwing has changed beyond recognition. In last year’s World XV game I don’t recall either Matfield / Etsebeth poaching one of his throws.

    I still don’t get this.

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.04.16 09:10:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) : I would even settle for Willie moving to 10 and Joe P at 15.

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.04.16 09:11:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Another Nick (Comment 8) : Bismarck also used to throw in very softly during stages of his career. He started to come right just before he left

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.04.16 09:17:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 12) : Maybe Gold should ask his CEO to skip a few of those board meetings (they are really boring anyway), and come and spend some time mentoring the current set of hookers.

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.04.16 09:21:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @robdylan: @thehound will be all over you if reads you actually mentioning deysel to play no4 :D think ddp could actually be an option there.how is vd walt?had a big game vs blues.

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.04.16 09:22:52 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • I dont agree with wholesale changes (seems a bit of a panic response to me) but certainly need to start incorporating some fresh legs through some form of rotation sooner rather than later. And lets start with guys that are looking a bit our of sorts, rather than those on top of their game.

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.04.16 09:24:19 by stevovo Reply
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  • @stevovo (Comment 15) : in the forwards,beast and oosthuizen.start from the bench.

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.04.16 09:37:57 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 10) : Its pretty easy to get to be honest. Having heard interviews from guys that play over there , there is a massive emphasis on a players core roles especially those surrounding the set pieces. So as a hooker they would put massive emphasis on his lineout throwing and his hooking in the scrums. In SA we like if our hookers are good at those core functions but we also want a hooker than can act as a fetcher, can carry the ball and step and pass etc. The emphasis and importance attached to the core functions here arent as great as over there.

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.04.16 09:38:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 13) : Maybe he should be on the field fulltime instead of the boardroom as thats where he is trained to be….

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.04.16 09:41:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 18) : I always thought the Sharks would do well to set Smittie up for a coaching role – obviously doing the hard yards and not just being parachuted in. He always seem to be one of the players who could make a success of coaching.

  • Comment 19, posted at 19.04.16 09:47:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sub the lot of them, show more faith in those you pay lip service and give fancy coloured vests to for sitting on the bench with the right attitude.

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.04.16 09:48:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 17) : In my mind if players in the tight five cannot fulfill their primary jobs at this level, they shouldn’t be selected in those positions. No point having a tight head that can run and handle like a centre, but he gets murdered in every scrum.

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.04.16 09:49:55 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We need to go the Johan Ackerman route, good rotataion but also rewarding crap play / braifarts with substitution and a place on the bench for the next game.

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.04.16 09:50:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 22) : 100% agreed. You need to give the combinations time to settle, but also need to keep the starting players honest.

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.04.16 09:53:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 19) : Im not sure about hands on coaching but a DOR role would suit him perfectly to be honest as its not directly hands on and he still gets his office time etc. Thats where he should have been appointed first before CEO…just my opinion

  • Comment 24, posted at 19.04.16 09:57:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 21) : My thoughts 100%…unfortunately most people get excited about a hooker than acts like a flank more than a hooker…

  • Comment 25, posted at 19.04.16 09:58:35 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 24) : Since he already apparently :grin: has 4 year experience at coaching at national level, he would not have needed a lot of hard yards to do,

  • Comment 26, posted at 19.04.16 09:59:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 26) : Well ex National coaches are perfect for the DOR role…especially an old boy of the team

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.04.16 10:22:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Must say I agree with some changes. Sithole and April must start and Beast must be given a break. Only problem is who will captain the side I’d both Beast and Joe does not start? Maybe Deysel or Keegan could but then they also need to start in place of either or both of the twins?!

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.04.16 10:41:30 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 28) : Ja there is a lekker thought. Start Keegan, make him captain as well. Give Beast a rest. And start April.

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.04.16 10:46:53 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Kyle Cooper’s lineout throwing is nothing short of shambolic, for one of his prime jobs its actually a joke, would you pick a winger that cant run?!?

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.04.16 10:49:38 by Tintin Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 30) : Ahem…. :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.04.16 10:56:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Tintin (Comment 30) : Drop the mic right there. ;)

  • Comment 32, posted at 19.04.16 11:16:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • “The Lions won an epic encounter 29-22 but it appears the Stormers were not happy with Berry’s performance, especially his policing of the breakdown area.

    Wakefield took to Facebook after the game, expressing his disappointment: “I really cannot describe the atmosphere in the change room. Sadness. Disappointment, Robbed!!! We remain gracious in defeat. I have never felt so sad. Have good night’s rest ‘Man in the middle’.”

    Then, in an interview with the Cape Times on Sunday, Wakefield said referees should be made more accountable for their actions. He said referees are “better protected than the rhino”.

    Despite his rant, Wakefield has escaped any formal punishment from SANZAAR.

    He will, however, receive a call from SANZAAR CEO Andy Marinos, Rugby365 reports.

    Marinos told the rugby specialist website that SANZAAR was aware of comments made by Wakefield but is “satisfied that the integrity of the match official has not been directly attacked in this instance.”

    Marinos, Marinos, Marinos….tool, always was, still is.

  • Comment 33, posted at 19.04.16 11:37:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : SANZAAR and SA Rugby cannot piss off WP CEO…WP carry too much weight unfortunately

  • Comment 34, posted at 19.04.16 11:45:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : Bunch of illy livered soft dicks. Worst of all that CEO of theirs supports a foreign team.

  • Comment 35, posted at 19.04.16 11:52:33 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Eish, maybe I must just stick around here and not read other news, now I see an ex Free State player headbutts a woman in a Bloem pub. WTF people.

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.04.16 12:03:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 36) : But thats just funny….what else is there to do in Bloem? ;)

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.04.16 12:07:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : Jaaaaa, they probably rode off into the sunrise together on their Harleys.

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.04.16 12:12:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • http://m.sport24.co.za/sport24/Rugby/VarsityCup/varsity-cup-result-thrown-into-doubt-20160418

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.04.16 12:23:39 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 39) : Yeh saw that…seems very dodgey all round. But nothing will come of it…story will go quiet in 2 weeks

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.04.16 12:27:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 38) : The guy was probably just hitting on her ;)

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.04.16 12:29:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 39) : Let me guess, that Bosman guy will not utter a word. Sick.

  • Comment 42, posted at 19.04.16 12:32:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : That just works on a literal as well as a figurative level.

  • Comment 43, posted at 19.04.16 13:16:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 40) : That’s the feeling I get too. Farcity Cup indeed.

  • Comment 44, posted at 19.04.16 13:22:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 44) : Unfortunately yes. They seem to be ruining what could be a great product.

  • Comment 45, posted at 19.04.16 13:30:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : :lol:

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.04.16 13:39:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 40) : Even if the media do let go of it, I doubt the UKZN lawyers will.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.04.16 15:52:10 by Nostraseth Reply
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  • @Nostraseth (Comment 47) : UKZN are saying they want answers. Their case rests on the verdict in the Pukke case. From what ive read it seems both Varsities did nothing wrong. Seems it is a weaker case against Pukke than it is against UKZN.

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.04.16 15:57:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • This whole mess is not really great advertising for KPMG.

  • Comment 49, posted at 19.04.16 16:00:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Nostraseth (Comment 47) : I wonder if the Stellenbosch lawyers are also taking note of this. In a way I hope not because Im glad that Pukke won the cup.
    Also interesting is that Duitser Bosman, the varsity cup CEO is himself a Potch old boy. Time to show you integrity Mr Bosman.

  • Comment 50, posted at 19.04.16 16:03:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : Indeed…and seems no statement from them yet

  • Comment 51, posted at 19.04.16 16:03:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : @SheldonK (Comment 51) : They are still patting themselves on their backs for cutting ties with the Guptas.

  • Comment 52, posted at 19.04.16 16:06:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 52) : UKZN should have got the Guptas to sign it off then no problem

  • Comment 53, posted at 19.04.16 16:12:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 53) : :mrgreen: Pukke probably consulted them first.

  • Comment 54, posted at 19.04.16 16:27:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Farlington (Comment 5) : CR…Cobus Reinach? But we’ve seen so much of him… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 19.04.16 19:03:19 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : Well, they’re CEO carries too much weight, that’s for sure…

  • Comment 56, posted at 19.04.16 19:06:35 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 44) : Farcity Cup indeed. As to whether this will go quiet…I’m not quite so sure…we’ll see. I am glad the media is not being quiet about this…and I hope that these chickens come home to roost!

  • Comment 57, posted at 19.04.16 19:09:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Sharks vs Highlander:

    What should we realistically expect from the Sharks, and at which point are we “allowed” to feel genuinely disapointed?

  • Comment 58, posted at 19.04.16 20:20:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 58) :
    Highlanders by +- 18?
    If Ben Smith plays this week maybe even more.

  • Comment 59, posted at 19.04.16 20:37:53 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 59) : I’m trying to figure out whether it’s ever “OK” to feel satisfied when the Sharks lose valiantly…..it kind of makes me feel like a tsietas supporter :twisted: ….although, they do manage the odd t20 score every now and then. :)

  • Comment 60, posted at 19.04.16 20:42:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 60) :
    Lol, Tsietsas are walking around with puffed out chests, until they lose to the Force this weekend, that is.
    Can’t see the Sharks coming close to the Landers this week, they are coming off a humiliating loss to the Reds and need to win, and win well to keep in touch with their conference.
    Come to think of it, that might just play into your hands, if they are going to chase a BP you might just catch them with counter attacks.

  • Comment 61, posted at 19.04.16 20:51:59 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 61) : That kind of helps me decide then…..back the Sharks for the win, no matter the opposition, and embrace the pain of losing…..I don’t care when other teams lose, so I guess the pain is part of the passion. ;)

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.04.16 20:56:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 62) :
    That’s one way of looking at it.
    Unfortunately, in my case, SuperBru equates to serious money in my one pool, so I play as a neutral :lol:
    Was bittersweet seeing my team lose against the Lions, but having picked the Lions by 8 and getting the GSP on that game made up for the pain.
    After making the mistake of picking the Lions to beat the Crusaders I vowed to never again pick a SA side if they face NZ opposition (Blues excluded if they face the Lions)

  • Comment 63, posted at 19.04.16 21:05:45 by nortie Reply

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  • @nortie (Comment 63) : …which is why I don’t play superbru – always ended up picking the Sharks for the win.

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.04.16 21:35:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • At the risk of sounding like a computer critic…
    Many thought that after pumping the Kings in the opening round that the Sharks had turned the corner with attacking intent. However the mindset of the coach on that day said it all and I told my mate that we will struggle once again this year.

    1. If there was ever a game to give a young fly half a go and build confidence – this was it. BUT NO WE WENT CONSERVATIVE
    2. Coenie ooshuizen can barely scrum on the loose head and we put him in the most technically demanding position in the entire team – LAUGHABLE
    3. We have a fascination with a scrum half who has tons of pace – HE IS THE WORST #9 in SOUTH AFRICA
    4. Believing that a 110kg behemoth centre is the way to go – NO PACE, NO VISION, NO PASS

    Our team should be based around players like Thomas, Adrianse, any other 9, April (in Lambo’s absence), Heimar, Sithole and so on.

    The fact that John Smit just walked into his CEO role was a laugh to begin with. This is a man, remember, who knowingly weakened his team by convincing coaches his leadership was more valuable than actual game influence that his superiors clearly offered.

  • Comment 65, posted at 20.04.16 04:07:03 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 65) : Look there are some arguments against your points there but id be lying if i said those werent all valid points.

  • Comment 66, posted at 20.04.16 08:01:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Apparently there are injury concerns over Jordaan (not surprising looking at the number of tackles he had to make) and Dan Dup.

  • Comment 67, posted at 20.04.16 08:32:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : If both out i can see JPP moving to 13 and Keegan Daniel starting for Dupreez. Seems also that Gold indicated that Chilliboy will replace Cooper on the bench

  • Comment 68, posted at 20.04.16 08:59:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I would have 6) Keegan, 7) JLDP 8) Ninja with Deysel moving to the bench. I guess JPP would be the best candidate for 13 (just hope he ups his defensive decision making which has been poor of late), Odwa will probably take his place with Sithole moving to the bench.

  • Comment 69, posted at 20.04.16 09:03:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 65) : I been saying for the past4 years that our no9 is a flash in the pan. Everyone hated me for bringing this to their attention, some still do.

  • Comment 70, posted at 20.04.16 10:55:45 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 66) : For sure, but based on what i have witnessed on my gut feel – i believe in every one of them.

  • Comment 71, posted at 21.04.16 03:30:51 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 70) : I know pal. It’s such a laugh – it is the exact same argument as a big behemoth = good rugby player…NOPE. All of Reinach’s good moments come from being on the break where he can use his pace. A scrum half is probably the most important or equal most important position in the team – needs to have the basics in the bag and then needs to read the game and pick a pass.

    Sharks should have recruited Vermaak from the Lions back in the day or at least once he left the Bulls. Reinach is a bad version of Francois Hougaard at 9 – I mean that

  • Comment 72, posted at 21.04.16 03:33:47 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 69) : And you got that spot on…well done…

  • Comment 73, posted at 21.04.16 07:06:10 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 72) : a scrumhalf i rate quite highly and he is probably under rated, well actually both of them at the Cheetahs- Shaun Venter and Tiaan Meyer.

  • Comment 74, posted at 21.04.16 07:52:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 74) : I can’t comment on Tiaan Meyer as I haven’t seen much of him but I agree with Shaun Venter.

  • Comment 75, posted at 21.04.16 12:39:03 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 75) : Ive rated Venter for quite a while. Meyer is also a good scrummy…spent some time in Durban and various other franchises but cant seem to hold onto a consistent spot.

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