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Time to box clever?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 26 Apr 2016 at 09:39
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Chiefs away, or Canes at home? In an ideal world, you win both, of course, but this is far from an ideal world and you have to concede that playing two such big games, on different continents, with just an 8 day turnaround (and at least 24 hours of travel in between) is a very big ask indeed.

Taking a somewhat more pragmatic look at things (and without for a moment suggesting that the Sharks would ever give less than 100% on the day), you could be forgiven for thinking that perhaps that second match is just a little more winnable, given the way things stand at the moment. There’s a good chance of some rather influential returns to the squad, amongst other things, including that of Patrick Lambie. Wouldn’t it be sensible to ensure that you have the best possible options available to you, selection-wise, for that must-win home game? I know I would take that route, if I could….

The conundrum facing the Sharks coaches is that they, of course, have to make sure they put in a credible and commendable performance against the Chiefs, even if the chances of prevailing in that game have to be seen as slim. With the vast majority of the squad that would need to face up to the Hurricanes still in New Zealand, the opportunities for mass rotation simply aren’t there, so at most we’ll be looking at a key player or two perhaps getting a rest in this game. That works in the Sharks’ favour, as they will still be able to call on a vastly experienced team for Friday’s clash.

So what would I do, were I in charge? Well, not too much, but definitely a few things. First and foremost, I’d get Beast Mtawarira on the first plane back to South Africa. The stand-in captain has done an admirable job, but started to show signs of mental fatigue against the Highlanders (that’s what I’m choosing to blame his somewhat petulant referee management on). Beast has played nearly 80 minutes of every game so far and with Thomas du Toit and the so-far unused Dale Chadwick both on tour, he must surely be due a complete rest. The other guy in the pack who has carried a massive workload so far and deserves a break is Etienne Oosthuizen and with Giant Mtayanda now with the squad, there must be an opportunity to play Oosthuizen off the bench (perhaps even as loose forward or utility cover).

The “other twins”, Keegan Daniel and Jean Deysel, should be the flanks, with the former captaining the side. Daniel du Preez, if he’s fit, can play eighthman, with his brother also given something of a break.

At the back, I’d not do too much other than to give Willie le Roux the week off (with Joe Pietersen at fullback) and find a starting slot for S’bura Sithole, perhaps ahead of Lwazi Mvovo who has also played a lot recently and is a key player to have fit for that Canes clash in a fortnight.



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  • I unfortunately think Gold will choose the safe route. But if losing didnt mean every man and his dog wanted to take a panga to your head then id probably go with: 1. DuToir 2. Chilliboy 3. Adriaanse 4. Lewies 5. Andrews 6. Deysel 7. Dupreez 8. Daniel 9. Claasens 10. April 11. Sithole 12. Jordaan (if fit) 13. JPP 14. Ndungane 15. Pieterson.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.04.16 09:47:26 by SheldonK Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : bloody good team.

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.04.16 09:49:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : There is grunt in front 3, speed amongst the rest of the pack, and something a bit different across the backs.

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.04.16 09:54:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Now if only the following team could be available for the Canes game: 1. Beast 2. Marais 3. Adriaanse 4. Botha 5. Lewies 6. Deysel 7.Potgieter 8. Daniel. 9. Claasens 10. Lambie 11. Mvovo 12. Williams 13. Jordaan 14. Sithole. 15 . Le Roux. It would allow a bench of DuToit, Chilliboy, Coenie, Etienne, DuPreez, Ungerer, April, Esterhuizen…thats some serious impact off the bench

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.04.16 09:58:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Makes sense to focus on the Canes game at home. Chiefs will need two red cards to even out the odds for the Sharks to win.

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.04.16 09:59:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Agreed! Love that 12/13 combo. Would be very interesting to see how those two would play together!

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.04.16 10:00:18 by jakkalas Reply

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  • I agree and I like the look of SheldonK’s team above

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.04.16 10:01:40 by stevovo Reply
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  • @jakkalas (Comment 6) : Me too

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.04.16 10:03:09 by stevovo Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : That team could very well out perform the regular starting team.

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.04.16 10:06:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 9) : Its just a bit of a different setup…strengths in different areas. I still think the Sharks are missing a playmaker at 12, a good linking player at 8, and a front 3 that carry the ball more-especially pick and goes.

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.04.16 10:17:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • They are discussing transformation on Cape Talk / 702. The in studio guest is from the Wits rugby club, anyway he has mentioned the Sharks as bad transformers of South African rugby. Still smarting that the Impi stuffed them up twice.

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.04.16 10:29:20 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : I’d be very interested in seeing that team play

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.04.16 11:13:29 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : [email protected]Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 11) : :lol: I was talking to a former Sharks player recently,who is now on the UJ coaching team & he just smiles when mentioning the current Sharks setup! :grin:
    We need to get our money back for Coenie & spend it on bringing youngsters through the academy& not letting them slip through our fingers like we did with Rob du Preez, Jean-Luc du Plessis,PSdT & others.

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.04.16 11:15:03 by markm Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 13) : The problem with bringing youngsters through is that these days they either want instant recognition (super rugby spot) or have some exposure incentive (Varsity cup). And it seems the likes of the Bulls and WP unions can give that a lot more than the Sharks can- even the Lions now have quite a big established core in their senior side so now only the odd youngster gets a chance (but they do have Varsity Cup). In terms of Coenie- i truly believe he can be a good player BUT he needs to concentrate harder. I have also liked the idea of converting him to a hooker…but not sure if its a bit too late in the day for that now.

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.04.16 11:22:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 12) : Chances are fairly slim im afraid…

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.04.16 11:23:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : Retreading Coenie as a hooker might work if he gets his mind right.It worked with Craig Burden.The only problem there would be pecking order behind who we already have – Marais,Cooper,Chilli.The powers that be have their heads in the wrong places as well.We overplay,overuse & don’t manage our players properly.How can a frontrower play almost every minute of SR so far? Is it a trust issue they have?Why do we have a full front row on the bench if they are going to be underutilized?Might as well have extra locks,loosies & backs then. :cool:

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.04.16 11:34:58 by markm Reply

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  • I also like SheldonK’s team. All i would change is the loose trio roles. Keegan 6, Deysel 7 & Dan 8. Sorry but i feel that Deysel is not a fetcher and Keegan has the skills to be an interim fetcher. This would be my team.
    Tank
    Chilliboy
    Adriaanse
    Giant
    Lewies
    Keegan(c)
    Deysel
    Dan dup
    Claasens
    April
    JPP
    Jordaan
    Sithole
    Odwa
    Mvovo

    Marais
    Dale
    Coenie
    Hyron
    JLDP
    Ungerer
    JoeP
    Esterhuyzen

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.04.16 11:42:11 by Fox Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 16) : Look i think Coenie retreaded to hooker could jump the queue but as i said i dont know if its too late in the day and the Sharks have already spent the money on him as a tighthead so need to see a return there. As for the overplay you mention, i really do think its a lack of trust in the other players…a fear of losing/criticism if the perceived 2nd choice guy gets a lot of gametime and we lose. If i compare the Sharks and Lions…the Sharks seem to play with a fear of losing…the Lions play with the excitement of a possible win..if that makes sense?

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.04.16 11:45:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 17) : not a bad side…although im still unconvinced of sithole at centre- but willing to let him have another go. I didnt pick my 6,7,8 with numbers attached to specific roles such as fetcher, ball carrier…for me the number doesnt matter. I just prefer Keegan at 8 of Dupreez as his control is better at back of a scrum and so too his speed off the mark. Interesting you picked Chadwick…

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.04.16 11:48:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 17) : Let Deysel play to the ball in the closer channels, and Keegan can also play to the ball from 8 but cover the wider channels.

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.04.16 11:54:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 20) : Thats too much out the box thinking…how dare you ;)

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.04.16 11:59:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Without sounding too negative, I doubt this level of strategic thinking exists in sharks management. Else how would you explain risking so many star players in a friendly match against french teams, which meant nothing?

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.04.16 12:01:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 21) : I haven’t been accused of thinking out of the box in a long time. Should I get upset about that? : :razz:

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.04.16 12:03:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 23) : Your natural SA tendency to be conservative may have started to take over…no more wors and beer for you

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.04.16 12:06:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 22) : That is tricky as you still have to get your stars match fit and taking contact…bit of a catch 22 really

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.04.16 12:06:46 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 4) : I would have le roux in at wing and April or Joe Pietersen at fullback then for impact shift le roux to fullback sithole in on wing. The rest at the back seems good.

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.04.16 12:09:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : Agreed. But limiting or spreading the risk would have been prudent. Impact only for the top guns and maybe not your best of the best in at one time in one game?

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.04.16 12:15:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 26) : So LeRoux to start at wing ahead of Sithole? And Pieterson at 15.

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.04.16 12:21:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 27) : Hmm get your thinking, im just not sure its possible to minimise risk as injury can happen at any time during any game. Just take Lambie’s injury…bet none of us thought he would get injured in that way. A bad tackle, twisted ankle etc maybe.

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.04.16 12:22:50 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 16) : Cooper should be reserve orange peeler, so the Coenie idea is actually not a bad one

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.04.16 12:31:17 by Tintin Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : But isn’t that the premise of this article? Taking calculated risks. I’m just saying I don’t think our teams management think this way. The evidence suggests it.

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.04.16 12:37:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : I share your apprehension if sithole readiness at this level. I like him very much but how ready is he?

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.04.16 12:38:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 31) : No definitely management are more conservative. And it relates to another comment i made where i believe that the Sharks play with a fear or losing…whereas in contrast the Lions play with the excitement of a possible win. However, you can take risks with selection in terms of different combos etc. But i dont think you can negate the risk of top players getting injured.

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.04.16 13:04:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 32) : i think Sithole is definitely ready to play at this level. However, to play wing no problem…to play at centre-im not convinced yet.

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.04.16 13:06:26 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Just hoping that they try to pull a Frazer and Ali rematch in this game since we going into “boxing” now with us being Frazer minded

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.04.16 13:23:01 by Henkb Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : It’s an interesting point of view, Sithole being a wing opposed to centre and one that I’m not sure is overly agreed with around here. I liked Sithole at centre, I also thought his handling seemed to be better there too. I do agree he took the ball up at centre to often but I’m sure he would have adjusted and pass more once he settled into the role.

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.04.16 13:34:37 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 36) : Id be interested to hear why you thought he did well at centre? A lot of people tell me he is quick and ran straight and hard and evaded tacklers, he caught the ball a lot, and he was decent on defense. Now that for me describes a wing. Id like a centre to be more of a ball player together with a hard runner, he must be both an organiser on defense as well as a tackler, he should have some form of a kick/grubber in his arsenal. Now for me Sithole comes up short in quite a few of those at the moment…not saying he can never develop any of those attributes…just that i havnt seen him display any of them to date.

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.04.16 13:50:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Fear of losing – that describes the Sharks team culture for the past couple of years.

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.04.16 14:06:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK i was picking a team for Friday’s game, hence the Chadwick inclusion. As for Sithole at 13, he is not my favourite in that position either but we need to give him some game time and i prefer him there than JPP. @Bokhoring the role of a 6 is to fetch and make a nuisance of himself at the breakdown and to me Deysel is not that type of player. I agree that Keegan is better at 8 but he is a better 6 than Deysel and Dan dup. I would say play Keegan at 6 on defence and at 8 on attack (linking with the backline) do i make a bit more sense or is this week taking a toll on my brain? :-D

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.04.16 14:11:56 by Fox Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : The quick, straight and hard running thing is the basis of my opinion. He is strong in the tackle and his hand off allowed him to make space for those around him when he got the passing thing right. Sure his kicking game needs work but all of our current centres are in the same category here. I always felt his defence was top end at centre, which we all know is a difficult channel to defend.

    At the end of the day I thought he shone brightest for the Sharks at senior level at centre where he played a handful of times far more than he ever did at wing. If he was that good a centre whilst learning the ropes he could have developed into something very special. I also felt at the time Jordaan was a better prospect at wing.

  • Comment 40, posted at 26.04.16 14:19:57 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 39) : Fair enough regarding Chadwick…i just couldnt remember when last i saw him in Sharks colours. I also find it interesting that a lot of people like the Sithole at 13 idea…how many games has he played there? I remember a couple but no idea exactly how many. As for the loose forwards..i really dont put much emphasis on who wears what number..rather what each do on the field. Players need to be more hybrid than only perform a certain role as well.

  • Comment 41, posted at 26.04.16 14:22:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 40) : Interesting…and fair enough. People like coaches all have different takes on a player. Personally i felt that he did majority on his own at centre with very little passing…i remember him either breaking through or dying with the ball. I think he is quite a lazy wing..but maybe thats because he wants to play centre, i dunno. He may get his chance at centre later in the year but with Jordaan and JPP there i cant seem him playing ahead of either at the moment. He also seems to be a bit down in pecking order at wing…so it could be that we are missing some weaknesses that the coaches are seeing at training. Just speculating.

  • Comment 42, posted at 26.04.16 14:27:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 40) : At this stage Jordaan would be my first choice 13.

  • Comment 43, posted at 26.04.16 14:30:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 43) : Seems the Sharks also see Wandile Mjekevu as more of a centre than a wing.

  • Comment 44, posted at 26.04.16 14:35:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 39) : Deysel like Bismarck has the strength and technique to be a great nuisance at the breakdown in the closer channels. His problem is that he does not have the speed to cover the field.

  • Comment 45, posted at 26.04.16 14:45:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 45) : And going along your thinking lines there- Daniel probably doesnt have the bulk to be that effective at the breakdown closer in against the heavy forwards but can be very effective beating those forwards to a breakdown in the wider channels against the backs.

  • Comment 46, posted at 26.04.16 14:51:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 46) : Exactly.

  • Comment 47, posted at 26.04.16 14:56:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : Except for Jpp good team. Personal opinion but Jpp should just leave and get it over and done with.

  • Comment 48, posted at 26.04.16 15:24:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 48) : Thats a bit harsh on the guy i feel. There have been many guys a lot worse than him this year. But i guess that feeling is understandable as he is leaving

  • Comment 49, posted at 26.04.16 15:25:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 49) : Bud, bar one moment against the stormers. He has not been the player we all loved from 2007. He appears lazy and disinterested for a couple of seasons now. Yes all players suffer a dip in form. Like I said personal opinion. Besides him love your team choice

  • Comment 50, posted at 26.04.16 15:29:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 50) : Yeh perhaps it is because he really was a fantastic player and isnt hitting those heights that people are upset, added to the fact that he is leaving. I dont think he has been that bad this year, others definitely have been worse. But yeh we are all allowed different opinions…it makes us unique. if everyone thought the same the game and life would be pretty boring

  • Comment 51, posted at 26.04.16 15:40:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 42) : @Bokhoring (Comment 43) : I agree that the way Jordaan is playing he is the first choice centre (especially since he sorted his handling issues out) and it seems the Sharks have decided Sithole is a wing and not a centre so I’m kind of getting over this. I just thought I saw some real promise from him and I’m afraid we’ll never get to see what could have been. On Sithole being a bit of a lazy winger there is merit I feel but this is something most wings get accused of at some point and some of it’s fair in my opinion and some not so much. In this case I’m not sure, I’ll have to look harder and take mt S’bru tinted glasses off to make an informed decision.

    @SheldonK (Comment 44) : As for Mjekevu I feel on last years CC he is a long way away from wing and even further from centre.

  • Comment 52, posted at 26.04.16 15:44:45 by Hulk Reply

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  • The week after the Sharks beat one of the form teams in SR on their home turf, this will be the subject of SS1′s rugby show tonight:

    “Spotlight on the Sharks on SS TMO tonight. Where is it going wrong?”

    Really?!

  • Comment 53, posted at 26.04.16 15:53:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 52) : I think both Sithole and Mjekevu have a lot of ability and potential- Sithole probably more at this moment. He can most definitely develop into a good centre..and perhaps he will get gametime there during the CC. In terms of being a lazy wing…he is…but to put that in context i think most if not all the Sharks wings are a bit lazy. I never see many of them running off the shoulder of the 10/12. I dont see them falling back quickly to assist the 15. I dont seem them roaming across field to create an overlap. They seem to hold their space and try do something when it comes out wide.

  • Comment 54, posted at 26.04.16 15:53:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : I think your analysis on the Sharks wingers in encompasses most wings in the country. The only one I think that roams is Habana and my complaint about that is he never seems to be on his wing.

  • Comment 55, posted at 26.04.16 15:57:45 by Hulk Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : Its because the Sharks were meant to lose so they could abuse Gold and co. So yeh it definitely went wrong. Bladdy Sharks…

  • Comment 56, posted at 26.04.16 16:02:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 55) : Roaming constantly is definitely not what i am looking for. It needs to be the exception not the norm…but the exception cant be once every 4 games if you know what i mean.

  • Comment 57, posted at 26.04.16 16:05:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : When they dedicate a whole Tuesday night show on your team, you know that they see them and takes account of them, since we beat the current Champs on home soil surely they must know that the players and coaching staff are working hard on the mistakes that was made and are correcting them, but as you survey the TMO show does not tickle my fancy, will father watch a rerun of top gear season 1

  • Comment 58, posted at 26.04.16 16:06:28 by Henkb Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : If SS can bring us a show to the same caliber or type to the NZ one breakdown I will invest time and effort to watch that

  • Comment 59, posted at 26.04.16 16:08:22 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 59) : I think you have more chance of Gary Gold kitting up himself than that happening…

  • Comment 60, posted at 26.04.16 16:12:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Is There a restriction on how many players you can tour with ?

    Id use guys like heimar W , wandile mjekevu, k majola and the namib lock agnst the canes. Their all good players, so along with a few others we can stil beat the canes. Coaches are so scared to rotate

    a team of
    15willie
    14sithole
    13jpp/jordan
    12 Heimar
    11wandile
    10lambie
    9classens
    8′dan
    7majola
    6keagan
    5 namib lock
    4ousthuisen
    3 adriaanse
    2 kyle
    1tank

    16chilli
    17chadwick
    18coanie
    19lewies
    20deysel
    21ungerer
    22pietersen
    23Mvovo

  • Comment 61, posted at 26.04.16 16:12:53 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 61) : Sho some different combos there..interesting for sure.

  • Comment 62, posted at 26.04.16 16:16:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 60) : I’m with you on that one bud, the chances of that happening is slim to none, and such a pity as it is a great show, although they only focusing on the NZ teams the guest and studio guys are great

  • Comment 63, posted at 26.04.16 16:34:48 by Henkb Reply
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  • Sithole played several games at 13 under Jake White, and even received an invite to a bok camp at 13 that year. My opinion was his defence was actually better at 13 than at wing. As for the Sharks wings being lazy, I would mostly agree, except for Odwa who is one of the hardest working wings in world rugby. I remember a match against Italy (I believe) where Chavanga was left wing and Odders on right, Chavanga, scored like 6 tries (I think) and all but one the last pass was made to him by Odders who had worked his way from the right wing to be in position on the left to make the final pass. He may have lost some of his pace, but his is still an incredibly hard working wing, and I have said many times, that almist any wing in the world can look to his workrate as something to simulate.

  • Comment 64, posted at 26.04.16 16:52:54 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 64) : This is also why I think Odders is still an incredibly useful player to have in your squad. Even if he is having an “off” day, he still keeps his workrate high. He draws the attention of the opposition, and that leaves his teammates open elsewhere, I have seen him make such an improbable catch on an attacking high ball that he drew 8 opposition players, with only 3 sharks supporting him…….of course Reinach kicked that ball away instead of getting it to our backs who had a massive overlap. And that was this year (against the Crusaders), so anyone that says he is no longer a useful player just is not watching him.

  • Comment 65, posted at 26.04.16 17:17:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Actually I wouldn’t say conservative. In fact the friendly was quite cowboy of them. But I will agree to the fear of losing statement, which can make you be either over conservative or ruthless depending on the current pressures.

  • Comment 66, posted at 26.04.16 17:22:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 51) : That is the major reason I absolutely love this site. Different views and opinions

  • Comment 67, posted at 26.04.16 17:36:58 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Does anyone know where Johan Deysel is. The guy showed real promise early season. Not the fastest backline player, no slouch either, should be able to comfortably cover both centres and wing

  • Comment 68, posted at 26.04.16 17:40:12 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 68) : the last I recall he was back at the Leopards

  • Comment 69, posted at 26.04.16 19:02:36 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 69) : Wasted talent, same as Heimar.

  • Comment 70, posted at 26.04.16 20:08:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : just a quick survey : how many no13s in world rugby,nevermind sr,ticks all those boxes?

  • Comment 71, posted at 26.04.16 20:17:35 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : they did not listen to you when selecting the team and must say it’s a pity as I also feel that the points you raised is good and should have been done.

  • Comment 72, posted at 27.04.16 00:41:52 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 71) : Paul Jordaan?

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.04.16 00:42:25 by JD Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 70) : think before to long Heimar might move if he does not get more game time.

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.04.16 00:43:46 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : I would swap JPP for Sithole in the centres (just positional).
    @SheldonK (Comment 4) : Might just swap Beast out for Thomas.

    We all have our slight preferences for certain players, but man I can’t argue with the balance in your teams here. Maybe not the biggest backlines, BUT POWERFUL

  • Comment 75, posted at 27.04.16 01:39:36 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 68) : There was no release of information from the Sharks about him…he was just suddenly gone! He did play Farcity Cup for Pukke and I can only assume he is back with the Leopards now…

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.04.16 05:36:48 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 74) : Which is an atrocity, the man as far as can be seen always gives his all. What I like about him is the fact that he tries different things and always has a smile on the field. Seems to enjoy his rugby

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.04.16 08:36:40 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Thanks for the feedback gents. Does anyone else get the feeling that we are letting some high quality players slip through our fingers yet again

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.04.16 08:37:56 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 77) : yes I like his attitude and would hate it if he leaves but the way things are going at the moment I really think he could be going.

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.04.16 11:16:15 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 79) : Heimar should just pack on a little more muscle. It will make him more solid in the tackle other than that he has all the makings of a good Centre

  • Comment 80, posted at 27.04.16 11:28:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 76) : toured as a loan player…. went back, so no real announcement

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.04.16 11:53:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 80) : not to much muscle otherwise he could become another “crash ball expert”.

  • Comment 82, posted at 27.04.16 12:10:36 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 81) : Thanks…

  • Comment 83, posted at 27.04.16 12:41:29 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 81) : Personally I subscribe to the “too much information is better than too little” as far as communication goes…keep people informed…that has been an issue at the Sharks in the last few years. Anyway…

  • Comment 84, posted at 27.04.16 12:43:14 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 82) : Just enough to hold his own in the tackle. Also wouldn’t want to impact his speed too much, although I think some upper body work would actually help it a little.

  • Comment 85, posted at 27.04.16 12:50:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 76) : Didn’t I see his name/face on the reserves for the Highlanders game?

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.04.16 16:24:55 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 86) : No…that was Jean Deysel…

  • Comment 87, posted at 27.04.16 20:53:46 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 85) : yes that’s true.

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.04.16 21:12:33 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 71) : I think a lot of the good ones tick most boxes. Not saying every 13 has all those qualities…but thats what i think they should be aiming for.

  • Comment 89, posted at 28.04.16 08:47:30 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 64) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 65) : Remember Boela Abrahams the Griffons scrumhalf was invited to a Bok camp..so id look at players invited to a Bok camp with a bit of perspective. Thats not to say Sithole cant currently do a job at centre nor does it mean he cannot become a good centre. I just feel his current skillset is better suited to wing. In terms of the lazy wing description- yes Odwa is the exception- but i think my description pretty much applies to the rest.

  • Comment 90, posted at 28.04.16 08:50:50 by SheldonK Reply

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