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Toetie gets his man


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 17 May 2016 at 09:48
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Matt Proudfoot was this morning confirmed as part of Allister Coetzee’s new Springbok coaching set-up, with the former Bulls prop released from his contract in Japan to take up a four-year consulting role with the national side.

Coetzee and Proudfoot have worked together a number of times in the past, both at the Stormers and at Kobe in Japan and it’s clearly been a high priority item for the new coach to get his favourite lieutenant on-board. According to a SA Rugby release, Proudfoot will be in charge of scrummaging, breakdown and all aspects related to contact areas, while Johan van Graan will focus on team attack and lineout play.

“I know Matt very well from our coaching stints together in Cape Town and Japan and has a lot of respect for his ability to build a powerful pack and his rugby philosophy,” said Coetzee in the same release.

“I am confident that he will add a lot of value to our management staff and the coaches are looking forward to working with him.”

Matt Proudfoot – hobbit fan.



60 Comments

  • He turned the Stormers scrum into a real weapon, so not a bad thing for the Boks

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.05.16 09:55:32 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • Good luck for both of them!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.05.16 09:58:50 by JD Reply
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  • Johan Van Graan definitely the odd man out..his contract should never have been renewed. I think Proudfoot is a good forwards coach.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.05.16 10:21:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) : but they will never admit they made a mistake and just release him from his contract no they will find something for him to do even if it’s assistant to the assistant coach!

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.05.16 11:12:36 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 4) : Yup. Rumours are he will move to the u20s after this JWC as Theron will step down

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.05.16 11:36:49 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 5) : like I said they will find something for him to do!

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.05.16 11:50:37 by JD Reply
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  • Van Graan – team attack. Eish

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.05.16 12:07:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good news this….van Graan would’ve been like drinking stagnant water.

    Just wish they didn’t leave these appointments to the last second.

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.05.16 13:07:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 7) : Maybe the Team will attack Van Graan? :)

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.05.16 13:30:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : The tail waging the dog style of management employed by SARU will always cause situations like this!!!

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.05.16 13:33:09 by JD Reply
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  • Van Graan… not even the Bulls want him back.

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.05.16 13:42:38 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) : We can only hope.

    On a serious note, we can then expect a team that will be good at the set pieces (hopefully Van Graan has Matfield’s number as I am pretty sure he ran the lineout during HM’s tenure). Pity about losing the Scot as he added a lot of value to the Bok breakdown play (read an interview with Marcel where he credited Gray with his own improvement in breakdown play), but I am sure Proudfoot will add a lot of value too.

    I guess we will still rely on attack on the occasional individual brilliance.

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.05.16 13:51:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • In other news

    Wasps are preparing to deliver another bold statement of their intent to be a consistent European force by signing Willie le Roux, the South Africa international, to join their galaxy of back-line stars for next season.

    Le Roux, a full back with 34 caps, is understood to have agreed a deal with Wasps and he could retire from international rugby to join the club, who have already recruited Danny Cipriani and Kurtley Beale.

    The 26-year-old, a world player of the year nominee in 2014, would be a like-for-like replacement for Charles Piutau, the New Zealand full back, who is joining Ulster in the summer.

    For Wasps to be targeting and recruiting players of this ilk is thrilling for the supporters and a far cry from the dark days four years ago when the club were nearly relegated and hours away from going bust.

    Wasps reached the last four of the European Champions Cup this season, where they lost to eventual champions Saracens, and they face Exeter Chiefs on Saturday in the semi-final of the Aviva Premiership.

    The revival has been bankrolled by the move to the Ricoh Arena and Dai Young’s mission as director of rugby is to ensure that this year’s efforts were no flash in the pan.

    “The most important thing for this club is to consistently be at the top table in Europe and be very competitive in the Aviva Premiership,” Young said.

    The Wasps back-line next season could be dazzling: Dan Robson/Joe Simpson, Cipriani, Frank Halai, Beale, Elliot Daly, Christian Wade and potentially Le Roux.

    Not every signing has been a galactico but Young has reinforced his forward pack with players who will add a lot immediately but also have a scope for real improvement; players such as Tommy Taylor, the Sale Sharks hooker, and Matt Symons, the London Irish captain, who will fill the void left by Bradley Davies’s move to the Ospreys.

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.05.16 13:56:45 by Loosehead Reply

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  • @Loosehead (Comment 13) : SA rugby cannot afford this hemorrhaging of players to the northern hemisphere. It is one thing when over 30-year olds go north to cash in, but 26 year old players?

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.05.16 14:09:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) :
    Its very simple; stop selecting overseas Boks.

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.05.16 14:13:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) : Well with the Rand at 22 to the Pound can you blame him?

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.05.16 14:24:11 by Loosehead Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : I really cant see that making a difference…not now 4yrs from a RWC…maybe guys will think if it was the year before but not now

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.05.16 14:25:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Loosehead (Comment 16) : Don’t blame the guys at all. You may as well make hay while you still in demand.

    @Big Fish (Comment 15) : That would help to some extent, but I think we will see more players giving up a Bok spot to maximize earnings overseas.

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.05.16 14:27:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 18) : Should convince our teams to build a team, and not buy/build one man superstars.

    Will also force our teams to focus on quality coaching.

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.05.16 14:54:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • NZ seems to be doing just fine with their player losses….they have far less registered rugby players than us, and their players are in high demand. They’re also not getting paid much more than our guys as far as I know.

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.05.16 15:00:19 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • guys – don’t panic about all these transfer rumours. I will definitely get something up once any of it is solid. Just rumour right now

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.05.16 15:22:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 20) : The NZ dollar has been pretty stable against the pound (trading on average at 0.5 to the pound prior to 2015, taking a dip to 0.4 in 2015 and now back around 0.48). The Rand has shown a steady linear decline over the same period.

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.05.16 15:26:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Well I guess if van graan is attack coach we can expect more forwards in the backline. Maybe a scrumhalf over the hill flank combo, center past his sell by date lock combo and a wing turn him over he’s done prop combo? Can’t wait to play Japan again…

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.05.16 15:29:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 22) : So for a Kiwi player in 2011 and one in 2016 considering the move, the payoff is much the same, but for an SA player the payoff in Rands for the same contract is almost double (obviously a bit less taking SA inflation into account).

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.05.16 15:35:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Even selecting from just within SA proves a huge challenge because we do not have a consistent playing style within a union, leave alone nationally. Thus you bring in guys who shone at SR level and they do not emulate that in the Bok team because the playing style and positional requirements are far different. This is even worse when you bring in guys playing in NH and Japanese teams.

    Whatever you lose in individual talent will be made up for by simple fluency and familiarity between coach and players (as evidenced by AC visiting each SR team right now). In addition, you will have more stability in the team, local rugby will benefit from the Boks who will then be playing domestically, and the dreaded Transformation issue will be indirectly advanced as well (thats as much as I am going to say Robbo).

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.05.16 16:29:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • and Jacques Potgieter doeing a Mapoe ….

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.05.16 16:43:08 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : Im with you on this even though I dont think it will have a huge effect but I feel that players playing at home must be the only ones eligible for selection to the national teams and if any overseas based player wants to be selected then they should play in SA for at least a full competition before being available for selection again.

    Rugby, sport in general in SA is going through a rough patch with many external matters making things very easy for a player to want to jump at the opportunity of making good money away from the madding crowd, and nobody can blame them for this, but ultimeately the person that gets the Bok jersey must be the one that wants it the most.

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.05.16 16:51:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 26) : We sure know how to pick them, although if Im not mistaken Mapoe came crawling. Same result.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.05.16 16:54:44 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) : The most charitable union in the world, paying it forward…we should congratulate our team.

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.05.16 17:00:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : where there’s smoke……

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.05.16 17:13:49 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 26) : oh you gotta be kidding????? …
    Our sharks cant catxh a break it seems. (

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.05.16 17:15:08 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 26) : where did you see the news as I can’t find any news on a possible move?

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.05.16 17:24:01 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 32) : Hendrik Cronje said some stuff on Twitter

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.05.16 17:36:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 29) : Smit should consider changing the Sharks into a sports injury healthcare provider, but rather charge the players than paying them for the benefit of using the programme.

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.05.16 17:38:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 32) : I’ve heard some rumours though. Stuff about the Sharks not paying while he’s been injured, etc…. not sure if it’s true.

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.05.16 17:41:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 24) : Also the sociology economic climate and political environment. Plus I’m sure it’s a great adventure for anyone to go and ply his trade in a first world country forbade few years while earning great money.

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.05.16 17:44:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 36) : Socioeconomic …. that is. .

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.05.16 17:45:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 26) : Not really the same. Mapoe has paid dividends. ..we still have to see about Jackpot. .

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.05.16 17:52:09 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : OK I’m not on Twitter. Personally I will only worry about Willie and Pottie leaving if I read it here or on the official Sharks website.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.05.16 17:56:41 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 38) : what did the Sharks get from Mapoe’s rehab?!

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.05.16 18:00:36 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : If this is true i dont think the Bulls would be the best place to go . they seem to not be paying Pollard either while he is injured . SARU is covering him if im correct ?

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.05.16 18:02:21 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 41) : that is strange indeed? Would also like to get more details.

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.05.16 18:17:20 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 40) : The once in a lifetime opportunity of sponsoring the Lions with their starting 13….that and getting to spend a year with Mapoe. :)

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.05.16 18:53:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 43) : hahaha ja just a pity they did not add “rehab sponsored by the Sharks” just above the 13 on his jersey.

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.05.16 19:08:36 by JD Reply
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  • According to Andre Bloem (ECR), Sharks confirmed interest from Wasps in Willie, but no deal as yet.

    I guess it comes down to what Willie wants – which might depend on Bok call up and coaching/team environment.

    Either way, no player will hang around forever, development of quality depth should be an ongoing priority.

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.05.16 19:39:17 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 45) : for sure especially players like Willie Pat and Marcell. Of cause Beast is the exception!!!

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.05.16 19:47:52 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 46) : I don’t to nk Pat will leave….have’s not playing for money – seems him and his family is quite well off. Jordaan is another that’s apparently not playing for money, but love of the game. His game farm keeps him happy apparently.

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.05.16 19:58:24 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 47) : Darn autocorrect.

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.05.16 19:59:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 47) : not sure about that. Money might not be as important to some but I don’t think it means nothing to them.

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.05.16 20:17:00 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 47) : @JD (Comment 49) : don’t think Pat will leave also, remember he had the choice of playing for SA/Scotland and he opted to stay at the Sharks and in SA, but we will really need to develop the depth we have, loosing Jackpot is not such a huge concern for me, if we can retain the twins and Deysel for another season or two, as they are all almost in the same mold, and abrasive players

  • Comment 50, posted at 17.05.16 20:36:28 by Henkb Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 49) : @Henkb (Comment 50) : Interesting to note that there has never been rumors about Lambie and Jordaan being linked to other teams – also says a lot about the rumors currently doing the rounds….there’s definitely smoke, the player’s signature determines whether the smoke turns into a fire.

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.05.16 20:55:39 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 50) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 51) : can never say a player will not leave to play elsewhere. Think for the right money most if not all players can be convinced to sign. Personally I don’t spent a lot of time wondering and worrying about if a player will stay or go as what I think or do will ultimately change nothing. Just wait and see as all will be revealed by the people that knows.

  • Comment 52, posted at 17.05.16 21:16:44 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 51) : definitely will cause fire, but it is like this every year, all the rumors start and sometimes it is nothing more than just smoke on the water :mrgreen: as this is the window in which the guys are open for negotiations and for new contracts ext. must say I’m actually very glad that those two have never formed part of the smoke and talks that is flying around, PJ is starting to really get into his own now, think our game plan and play makers is suiting him a lot more now, and for Pat he is just pure class and there is no sub for him, if the rumor about Willie is true I’m sure that April will take that chance with both hands, and we saw what he can do at 10, just imagine what he can do with Pat on the field also

  • Comment 53, posted at 17.05.16 21:20:17 by Henkb Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 52) : Not just money also remember these are young men. It is an experience to see the world and live in Europe or japan for a few years while doing the thing you love.I know I would do it.

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.05.16 06:12:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 54) : yes that’s for sure also a reason.

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.05.16 07:08:04 by JD Reply
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  • Don’t we have willie on a 2 year contract? And I’m pretty sure he has one of the high paying bok contracts that stipulates he stays in SA?

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.05.16 07:28:51 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 56) : He only signed a one year contract with the Sharks, and only for Super Rugby

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.05.16 07:48:01 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 56) : no and no.

    Willie only signed with us for Super Rugby 2016 and also has only been offered a Bok contract for next year due to Japanese commitments.

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.05.16 09:29:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : That’s bad news was hoping he signed a longer contract with the Sharks.

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.05.16 09:53:00 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : Van Graan as attack coach worries me more…

  • Comment 60, posted at 19.05.16 16:34:32 by the-other-sharky Reply

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