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John Smit resigns


Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :Original Content on 26 May 2016 at 15:48

John Smit, Chief Executive of The Sharks, has announced he will resign at the end of the 2016 season.

Stephen Saad, Chairman of The Sharks Board of Directors, stated: “John is recognised as one of the most successful and respected leaders in our country, and we are grateful for his contribution in guiding The Sharks through a period of transition over the past three years. I am pleased to say he will remain closely associated with the organisation, maintaining a series of key relationships.”

Smit said: “It was an honour for me to represent The Sharks on the field, and it has been an honour for me to work for The Sharks off the field. I have enjoyed the last three years and greatly appreciate the continuing support of our chairman Stephen Saad, KZNRU President Graham Mackenzie, Supersport and the rest of the Board.

“This decision to resign was not an easy one and it is based primarily on me wanting to focus more of my time on my young family.

“I look forward both to the next challenge in my career and to remaining a frequent visitor to Growthpoint KINGS PARK, my home from home since I was 18 years old.”

The process leading to the appointment of a new CEO has commenced.



184 Comments

  • I nominate Jacques Botes!

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.05.16 15:51:51 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • This will be a good thing if we find someone with a great rugby brain as well as business. Of not then I’d see it as more of a loss. Either way thank you John for your years service to the Sharks, go enjoy time with your family.

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.05.16 15:52:46 by Nostraseth Reply
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  • I think Graham McKenzie will throw his hat in the ring…not sure who else.

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.05.16 15:54:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) : He’s too old you need young blood in that job,
    Somebody like Gary Teich or Mark Andrews

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.05.16 15:56:50 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 4) : I dont think either of Teich or Andrews would…would be a big surprise if they did. I cant see it being an recent ex player to be honest. Will be more of a business/political appointment

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.05.16 15:58:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I sincerely hope that this is not a result of financial issues within the union as speculated with the Jacques Potgieter move. If it is, I see some dark years ahead for the Sharks.

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.05.16 15:59:09 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • Actually, this is in preparation of Gary God moving into the CEO chair, and Steve Hansen taking over the coaching. You heard it here first!

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.05.16 15:59:30 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : id put R10 on that bet at the bookies…

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.05.16 16:00:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Cheeky Watson should be available any day now…

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.05.16 16:00:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : And he comes with a loose forward ;)

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.05.16 16:01:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : Surely you mean a prop?

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.05.16 16:02:12 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Has Marius Joubert hung up his boots yet? He’d be *perfect*…!

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.05.16 16:02:34 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : don’t forget there is another Watson that can play 6/7/8, and he is also on the look out, maybe a 2 for the price of 1 combo?

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.05.16 16:02:54 by Henkb Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : Luke to return as Captain?

    Thankfully some common sense would prevail

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.05.16 16:05:00 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 13) : *Could* play.

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.05.16 16:05:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 11) : With a bit of hard off season work at the local spur im sure prop is an option

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.05.16 16:06:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 15) : @SheldonK (Comment 16) : true, i forgot to add that part, I’m sure he can cover prop currently, spur would just add to that beast mode he gets into when he is playing like a real master on the field :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.05.16 16:08:22 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : Id put R10.00 on half that bet.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.05.16 16:17:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 12) : he has some or other business in Paarl, sorry.

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.05.16 16:18:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I’ll put R10 on Edward Griffiths getting the job

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.05.16 16:20:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 21) : Could be a good bet that.

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.05.16 16:27:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • “The process leading to the appointment of a new CEO has commenced.” quick out the blocks.

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.05.16 16:29:25 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • So was he shoved?

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.05.16 16:56:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Amen

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.05.16 17:07:50 by benji Reply
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  • @boertjie101 (Comment 6) : anyone hear any outcome or results of the forensic audit,its gone way to quiet for my liking

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.05.16 17:09:35 by benji Reply
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  • Am I the only one a little surprised by this?

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.05.16 17:27:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • At the time, I thought it was rather a bold move by the Sharks to appoint a CEO who, although highly knowledgeable about rugby, had no business acumen to speak of. And although there can be no denying that the start of John’s tenure was quite tumultuous, I do believe we are reaping the fruits of that decision, with a new era being ushered in at the union.

    My hope now is that the Sharks will remain committed to this brave path, and take the next step along the path of evolution; appointing a CEO with no business *or* rugby knowledge.

    In lieu of this, I’d like to humbly put myself forward as the ideal candidate for the post, being eminently qualified in aforementioned criteria. Heck, I’d even be willing to limit my term to four years, provided we can agree to acceptable terms of remuneration.

    Long live the Sharks!

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.05.16 18:09:27 by Culling Song Reply
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  • What the fuck? From Crete.

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.05.16 18:27:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Hold the door,Hodor,Hodor.

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.05.16 18:29:23 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : So I’m not alone….everybody on this thread seemed so calm about it…

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.05.16 18:33:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : ja don’t think it’s a major shock to anyone! Just wonder who will replace him.

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.05.16 18:56:44 by JD Reply
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  • Now appoint a real business head and let him stay out of the coaching and selection.

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.05.16 19:08:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Smit was not a resounding success by any means, but I felt that he’d now accumulated sufficient experience to become really effective. Also wouldn’t want him lost to SA rugby – I think this guy has lots to offer as a leader.

    So, I hope that he returns to KP some day.

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.05.16 19:14:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 29) : Laughed out loud in nandos, thanks.

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.05.16 19:18:35 by Nostraseth Reply
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  • My hypothesis: Smit accomplished what Saad wanted – setup coaching structures and receive uitment systems, employ coaches and establish an ethos that creates a professional team environment, able to take the Sharks into the next 20 years of professional rugby.

    Now they’re looking for a CEO qualified to handle the business end of things.

    And that folks, is what will make me sleep better at night.

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.05.16 19:32:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 33) : He should run for president of Saru, I’m sure he’ll give Hoskins a run for his money.

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.05.16 19:34:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 26) : I thought Smit had helped massively increase sponsorships? And with the team starting to perform this seems like a strange time to step down

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.05.16 19:41:04 by the-other-sharky Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : Dammit Rob… you’re gone for one day and look what happens

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.05.16 19:44:47 by the-other-sharky Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 36) :
    I think you make some good points regarding his contribution, however, I think any good CEO needs broad experience in things like marketing and financial management. I said it at the time and I still feel he wasn’t done a favour by being put at the top so quickly.

    Hopefully he gets some business exposure in a less pressured environment for the next few years and then comes back. I just hope there is no cloak and dagger behind his resignation.

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.05.16 19:50:45 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I think there is a typo in the title of the article; it was meant to be “John Smit Re-signs”. Should have rather said “John Smit Signs On Again” and avoided all this panic…

  • Comment 40, posted at 26.05.16 19:57:13 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 35) : While you are sleeping so nicely, have a dream or 2 about our now virtually non existant accademy and our absent age group players – our future players basically.

  • Comment 41, posted at 26.05.16 20:22:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I think John did very well in the job.When BJ was pushed out they needed a personality that was as big and as charismatic as him to fill the void.
    John’s was more than up to that challenge,he made a wrong move in getting rid of Plum but that was motivated out of the way Plum had treated him as a player.
    Plum never wanted John back for Saracens ,but old Snor couldn’t handle the Bok job without John,and at that stage Boks had to be home based.
    Hoskins made BJ and Plum take John back,which pissed off Bismarck and his brother who had already taken over the Sharks.For the time John was there before the world cup he was seriously fucked over.
    When he returned BJ was gone and he first got rid of Strauelli and then Plum.Big mistake because nobody really filled that job again,Jake,Venter,Brad Mac,Gold none as good as Plum.
    John gave us back a lot of things and this team today is as much down to him as anyone else.I would hate to see another Venter/Gold type come in and I am talking about Alan Solomons

  • Comment 42, posted at 26.05.16 20:23:43 by The hound Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 41) : Because our age group teams has ever displayed signs of success – even our academy was shaky at best. Most success came at club level. So no, this too can not be laid at Smit’s doorstep, his only failure was not being able to rectify an issue that has plagued the Sharks for many years before he became CEO..

  • Comment 43, posted at 26.05.16 20:28:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 39) : I can’t see Smit abandoning his vision a mere three years into it – the board might have asked him to tender his resignation, perhaps fearing Smit has taken the Sharks as far as he could.

  • Comment 44, posted at 26.05.16 20:38:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 41) :
    You must have been sleeping all the many years that both those cradles have been consistently failing to deliver real quality. Don’t let nostalgia blind you.

    @The hound (Comment 42) :
    I think Plumtree had his chips – the Sharks had stagnated under him. Should have been handled better of course.

    What I’ve heard first-hand from Sharks players at the time makes it clear that Plumtree and Straueli were not mourned by all. It’s all subjective of course – my point merely being that neither were universally acclaimed at the time.

  • Comment 45, posted at 26.05.16 20:43:55 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 43) : Nah, sorry Im not buying that. The Academy could always hold its own with recruiting and coaching many great players – this is clearly not the case anymore, hell they are now trying to sell themselves as a rugby and soccer academy. Our age group teams were at least always competitive, maybe not dominant but they would always be in there with a shout.I wont even go into our current Vodacom Cup team playing in the CC.

  • Comment 46, posted at 26.05.16 20:44:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 40) :
    You and vanmartin are like a fresh breeze in the Mordor that SW has become of late. :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 26.05.16 20:45:37 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : Or, there aren’t any other theories and he just wants some more time with his family, like he publicly stated. Not everything is a conspiracy ;-)

  • Comment 48, posted at 26.05.16 20:48:46 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 45) : So when was the last time the academy produced?

  • Comment 49, posted at 26.05.16 20:49:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 48) : I have a feeling the “more time with his family” is the symptom of his resignation, not the cause :)

  • Comment 50, posted at 26.05.16 20:52:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I don’t know, for some reason I just think that this isn’t a big deal regarding “whats really the reason he resigned” . I think it is what it is this time, he’s done all he can and now he wants to spend more time with his family. He’s done so much for Sharks rugby, he doesn’t own anyone a different explanation than the one he gave.

  • Comment 51, posted at 26.05.16 20:55:02 by Quintin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 50) : :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 26.05.16 20:56:05 by Quintin Reply

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  • Sharks academy players in SA 2012 under 20 squad – Pieter-Steph du Toit, Paul Jordaan, Braam Steyn, Khaya Majola Allen Dell and Nicholas van Dyk.

  • Comment 53, posted at 26.05.16 20:56:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) :
    2006/7.

    The Academy needs to be reconsidered. The conversion rate to provincial player has always been poor, and the improvement in KZN schools rugby and post-matric means that the gap actually lies at university level.

    One of my direct reports is a 26 year old graduate of the Academy who’s had a desk job for years now. Also a die-hard Bull from Pretoria who never intended/ yearned to play for the Sharks. Tells me his story is not unique.

    A lot of what has come together in the last 12 months are long overdue improvements; not sure it’s all due to Smit of course.

  • Comment 54, posted at 26.05.16 20:59:59 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 53) :
    You really think that the Academy can claim the development of those guys – particularly PSDT, Dell and Jordaan???

    You really shouldn’t tease anyone else about having a loose grip on reality…

  • Comment 55, posted at 26.05.16 21:03:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 55) : Next he’ll be claiming Frans Steyn, Ruan Pienaar and Bismarck for the academy…..oh how some people yearn for the days of raiding the tsietas treasure trove (and hailing it as success).

  • Comment 56, posted at 26.05.16 21:14:37 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 55) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 56) : Were those guys in the academy. What are you looking for, as a product of the academy, someone who played crap rugby at school and the academy turned into a provincial player – name me one please, just one. Of course the academy looked to recruit the best young talent out there, and that they did pretty successfully until recently,

    @FireTheLooser (Comment 56) : As far as raiding the Cheetahs, dont be surprised if that will be our only way of putting out competitive teams, juniour to seniour because as true as #@$& the good KZN guys are not sticking around at the Sharks…..since your friend Strools left.

  • Comment 57, posted at 26.05.16 21:40:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 48) : He mentioned that he was enjoying his work at the Sharks in Sundays Rapport article, te same one that he used to rubbish Potgieter. Interesting in that article the interviewer mentions rumours that Gold is looking for new employment. He denies this saying he still has a contract with the Sharks.

  • Comment 58, posted at 26.05.16 21:44:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 47) : You should ask Rob to make it a rule here that all should have the same opinion, should be willing to sit in circles holding hands singing Kumbayah and never have an opinion that questions the new world order of the Sharks.

  • Comment 59, posted at 26.05.16 21:48:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 59) : Problem is, you want to go back to the old world order – that was also broken.

    Personally, I want to know how the Crusaders get things so right so often.

    Sharks aren’t where I want them to be, but they sure weren’t there unde BvZ and co.

    Varsity Cup Gate also dented the Sharks’ future ability to recruit talented youngsters.

  • Comment 60, posted at 26.05.16 22:10:19 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 57) : Stephan Lewies and Marcel Coetsee exemplifies what I’d expect the academy to unearth – guys attending the wrong school, overlooked by the establishment, and in Lewies’ case, discarded by his home union.

    We can’t claim guys like Bismarck, Steyn, Pienaar, PsDt, Thomas DT and Bosch as products of the Academy, their signature were well hunted.

  • Comment 61, posted at 26.05.16 22:16:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 59) :
    No issue with divergent opinions and engaging in lively debate; I’ve engaged in plenty here. But I dont find constant bitching entertaining or value-adding; it’s usually just a coping mechanism.

    Here’s a thought – if someone can predict your stance purely on the identity of a single party involved and without any references to facts, there might be an issue to reflect on.

    @FireTheLooser (Comment 61) :
    I’d add Beast, Craig Burden, JP and Lwazi Mvovo as further examples. Like I said before, not too much to get excited about of late.

  • Comment 62, posted at 26.05.16 23:18:51 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Off course he was not pushed. He truly felt that he has accomplished all the goals he had set for himself and now just want to spend more time with his family….

    White and Meyer were not fired either, they simply declined to re-apply for the job….to spend more time with their families.

  • Comment 63, posted at 27.05.16 00:50:47 by fyndraai Reply
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  • I hope they replace him with PDivvie.

    His family must be ready to spend less time with him by now.
    Going by the resume of his predecessor, he is eminently qualified and it will certainly keep the entertainment levels high.

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.05.16 00:53:56 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Along with the new ceo it would also be a good time to sort out head coach and d.o.r. Is there any suggestion that sharks are in financial troubles? We did make a few purchases that did not pay off at all. But in the light of so many expensive names leaving is the situation not balancing?

  • Comment 65, posted at 27.05.16 06:35:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 22) : Or its been a long time coming just late on announcing.

  • Comment 66, posted at 27.05.16 06:40:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 47) : Thanks, much appreciated! Of course, I can’t help but notice that you’re skirting the real issue here; are you going to be backing my bid to become the new CEO?

  • Comment 67, posted at 27.05.16 07:09:10 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 67) : You know you usually have my support in these matters but do the Sharks have the financial means to make the move to Bronkhorstspruit right now? Will the inevitable line of Sharks branded scotch be any good? How will SAB retaliate when only Devil’s Peak is served at the stadium? These are the tough questions that need addressing.

  • Comment 68, posted at 27.05.16 07:48:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : Are you referring to the one in Durban or Joburg ? :razz:

  • Comment 69, posted at 27.05.16 07:57:15 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 68) : Fair and valid questions indeed, and ones that have been occupying my thoughts for some time already For now, I’ll answer the first one. I’ve decided to to keep the Sharks in Durban, and relocate my family instead. As charming as the inbred racist hillbilly vibe is in the Bronks, and as unappealing as the thought of moving to the ocean, and moderate winter temperatures may be, I’ll suck it up like a man and take one for the team. ‘Cause I’m that kind of guy.

  • Comment 70, posted at 27.05.16 08:04:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 67) :
    I’m backing it to the hilt!

    @vanmartin (Comment 68) :
    Tough questions indeed! At least there will be continuity in the CEOs’ passion for cycling. Might perhaps be viewed as an ill omen that the new one keeps falling off so often though…

  • Comment 71, posted at 27.05.16 08:06:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 70) :
    You sir are right up there with the early Christians in the Romans circus!

    And they say that ubuntu is dead – fie upon them!

  • Comment 72, posted at 27.05.16 08:11:03 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 71) : I’ll have you know I haven’t fallen off my mountain bike in, well, several days, oh ye of little faith

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.05.16 08:11:30 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I have it on pretty decent inside info that the John Smit resignation was decided over a week ago but only announced now. Exact details of why may emerge but i feel its unlikely. Lets just say it was a mutual agreement that he resign. Smit is a good guy and knows rugby…unfortunately with professionalism rugby unions needs to operate as successful businesses and need a CEO well versed in such matters and is a good politician at the same time.

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.05.16 08:13:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 74) : Have you heard any grumblings regarding Edward Griffiths as a candidate for the ceo position?

  • Comment 75, posted at 27.05.16 08:29:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) : i said that in comment 20 and he is coupled with a certain D,Muir.

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.05.16 08:38:24 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 29) : I have been wondering about that since Monday. Since the series have now run ahead of the books, did Martin always have that plot twist in mind by naming him Hodor, or did the screen writers come up with that one all on their own?

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.05.16 08:40:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) : I would have no complaints about him running the Sharks.

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.05.16 08:43:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) : Apparently he has been seen around JS the last few weeks

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.05.16 08:45:25 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 75) : Nothing about a successor as yet.

  • Comment 80, posted at 27.05.16 08:53:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 77) : I saw JS in his old Bok kit holding the door at the K.P boardroom with all the demons of his past sins on the other side, and John with one final effort straight out of thereby world cup final of 2007 shouting Hodor ,Hodor, finally disappears under a pile disgruntled Sharks world contributors

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.05.16 08:55:39 by The hound Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 77) : Sorry got carried away but to answer your question I think the man is such a genius of a writer that he had it planned that way all along.

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  • morning guys, I need a links to all the live stream you can think of going to test them all out this morning

  • Comment 83, posted at 27.05.16 09:06:52 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 77) : I’d consider this season based on the books as much as the others have been, the public hasn’t read it, but I can assure you the show writers have seen every line that exists of the new book. Not only that but the show writers have been told how it all ends, incase anything happens to George.

  • Comment 84, posted at 27.05.16 09:18:17 by Nostraseth Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 70) : Pity, with the Sharks based in Bronkhorstspruit, we’d be in in prime position to raid Puma, Bulls and Lions larders.

  • Comment 85, posted at 27.05.16 09:24:00 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Nostraseth (Comment 84) : Agree 100% the story was finished long ago and not released because it made the T.V show more intriguing ands much more popular when nobody knows how it will pan out.Having said that the shows are phenomenal and are now running at 10 million dollars an episode.

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.05.16 09:24:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 62) : :shock: Big Fish, social media profiler – 100% accurate. Every time :cool:

  • Comment 87, posted at 27.05.16 09:31:48 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 62) : Ok got it, anyone that enrolled in the accademy and made it are not academy players, so I presume that only the ones that enrolled but did not hit the big time are worthy of being called academy players.

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.05.16 09:35:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 88) :
    Tell you what – let’s agree that you won this debate in a crushing example of verbal agility and relentless logic.

    I still like you after all these years and I’ve become distracted by people who seem to think that George RR Martin is a good author! :shock:

  • Comment 89, posted at 27.05.16 09:47:23 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 69) : Durban, the one in Joburg is in good hands at the moment. Ours is now also a soccer academy – I kid you not.

  • Comment 90, posted at 27.05.16 09:48:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Awww,

    Havent read George Martin but enjoy Joe Abercrombie and have just started reading Patrick Rothfuss.

  • Comment 91, posted at 27.05.16 09:54:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 89) : at last Ive finally found the sage I have been looking for for all these years,the one who has the unique ability to define a good author.Love to sit at your feet and drink in your brilliance
    .Fucken fraud what makes you think you are capable of a dissing the man who spawned this universal wave of brilliance.

  • Comment 92, posted at 27.05.16 09:56:35 by The hound Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 91) :
    Love Abercrombie! Enjoying Malazan Book of the Fallen at the moment – fantastic series.

    @The hound (Comment 92) :
    Too easy.

    Why so hysterical? Pederasty addle your wits?

  • Comment 93, posted at 27.05.16 10:21:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 93) : Shit expected more from the sage of the site than that.
    Friend I have enjoyed thousands pages of this epic watched 60 episodes of the series and have been mesmerised and enthralled by every minute.
    To see it dissed so flippantly by a rugby site blogger puts red mist in my eyes.
    The current series launched in forty languages on the same night,do you have any comprehension of the magnitude of that.
    If that is the result of a crap writer then obviously you and I have very little to discuss.

  • Comment 94, posted at 27.05.16 10:31:03 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 94) : All this time I thought this was a Sharks supporter site, not a game of gnomes fan-boy club. :roll:

  • Comment 95, posted at 27.05.16 10:38:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Funny how one comment can change a conversation about John Smit’s resignation into a discussion about the best fantasy author. :grin:

    I am with hound on GOT (books and series), but I will make a point of reading Abercrombie and Rothfuss as soon as work load will allow me more time to read again.

  • Comment 96, posted at 27.05.16 11:14:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Relax lads, just having a laugh.

    I’m not a huge Martin or Game of Thrones fan – to me it’s a bit da Vinci Code-ish.

    But in all seriousness, the series started out very strong and is definitely the apogee of his writing if you’ve ever read his other, pulpy stuff. I just think he’s yet another author who let his ambition outstrip his vision and was treading water by book 4 – the last I read.

    @The hound (Comment 94) :
    Sorry to disappoint – was still aghast at your desire to satiate your thirst by sitting between the legs of a sage.

  • Comment 97, posted at 27.05.16 11:29:59 by Big Fish Reply
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  • To me it’s all derivative crap. These world’s have been created by other masters before. This is just a copy of a copy with a different jacket. And don’t worry any mainstream writer who’s book becomes a movie or series is automatically a genius. Look at E.L James and his soft porn slash mills and boon crap, fifty shades of gray. Also touted as a brilliant writer. The title has become cheap.

  • Comment 98, posted at 27.05.16 11:40:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Last time I read someone with an inkling of originality in the modern sci-fi and fantasy genre it was Somtow.

  • Comment 99, posted at 27.05.16 11:42:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 93) : Who would be the perpetrators and who the victim? They are both probably of the same age. Or are you inferring a molestation earlier in his life?

  • Comment 100, posted at 27.05.16 11:46:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 95) : Some people just like big men tot slapping each other and that is the root of their fan boy – Dom the vehicle does not really matter, big swords oblong balls…isn’t it all just the same phallic euphemisms?

  • Comment 101, posted at 27.05.16 11:50:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 99) :
    Don’t think I’ve read him – thanks for the tip. Rothfuss is apparently very lyrical – I have The Name of the Wind but have been enjoying Steven Erikson’s Malazan series far too much to start it.

    Abercrombie and Erikson are my current picks, with Sapkowski’s Witcher series up there too. The latter was also made into a great series of video games too. Playing the Witcher 3 on PS4 at the moment and loving it. Won about 250 awards last year – I’m not exaggerating.

    @coolfusion (Comment 101) :
    Harsh! :lol:

  • Comment 102, posted at 27.05.16 12:09:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 101) :Sometimes its a lot better to keep quiet and let people think that you are stupid than to open your mouth and confirm it.

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 101) : Are you a female??

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 102) : Will have a look into Abercrombie. Played Witcher didn’t know about the book. I have to renew my audible subscription no time for reading lately.

  • Comment 105, posted at 27.05.16 12:17:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 102) : Im reading The Name of the Wind at the moment, it has its moments but I do prefer Abercrombie. I heard that there is a Witcher movie in the pipeline.

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  • @The hound (Comment 103) : Well then you’d better practise being less verbal then, shouldn’t you? Mind you… be as verbal as you like…..I never needed the confirmation anyways…

  • Comment 107, posted at 27.05.16 12:20:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 102) : Hoods Balls! Finally another Steven Erikson fan! How far are you into the series?

  • Comment 108, posted at 27.05.16 12:22:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 108) : His real name is way cooler than his pseudonymn. I would have gone by that rather.

  • Comment 109, posted at 27.05.16 12:25:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 107) : So you are,then.

  • Comment 110, posted at 27.05.16 12:26:32 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 104) : Why are you looking for commisiration? Sorry. ..no.

  • Comment 111, posted at 27.05.16 12:27:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 111) : no and I ‘m not looking for affection either ,there is just something about you that doesn’t add up.

  • Comment 112, posted at 27.05.16 12:30:41 by The hound Reply
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  • This is what happens to a rugby blog when your team has no game on. Damn irresponsible of the sharks to leave us to our own devices like this. Especially now that they have started playing exciting rugby again.

  • Comment 113, posted at 27.05.16 12:31:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 109) : If you know Erikson is a pseudonym it’s probably safe to assume you’re familiar with his writing too? You a fan?

  • Comment 114, posted at 27.05.16 12:33:36 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 112) : Oh well…there’s your problem right there trying add things up. ..a bridge too far perhaps?

  • Comment 115, posted at 27.05.16 12:35:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 102) : I found the Name of the Wind very entertaining. Best way I can describe the Wise Man’s Fear is it was obviously the middle book in a trilogy where our protagonist levels up. Not as strong as the first but still enjoyable. Also, there’s a lot of accounting going on in the first book but somehow Rothfuss makes it work and I actually started looking forward to those passages. They’re oddly cathartic. The man has skill.

  • Comment 116, posted at 27.05.16 12:38:02 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 114) : Nah just heard now and looked him up. I will be getting some of his books. It’s been very long since I’ve read a good author in the fictional works cat.

  • Comment 117, posted at 27.05.16 12:38:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 117) : I tried R.R. Martin but the Damn pop-ups became tedious after a while. ; )

  • Comment 118, posted at 27.05.16 12:39:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 117) : The first book is a challenge but very rewarding. The author dumps you into his world with no hand-holding at all. It’s worth it though. Series is hugely rereadable and Tor has a whole section dedicated to a multi-year long reread on their website.

  • Comment 119, posted at 27.05.16 12:43:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 119) : Gardens of the moon?

  • Comment 120, posted at 27.05.16 12:48:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Man, it’s been aaaaaages since I’ve read any fantasy/sci-fi. Actually, in between work and kids, it’s been aaaaaages since I’ve read, period (barring the odd graphic novel, but that can hardly count as reading). Lots of good recommendations here to get me started again!

  • Comment 121, posted at 27.05.16 12:50:13 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 121) : My problem is time as well. So I get a good audio book and listen when I commute. Works well for me.

  • Comment 122, posted at 27.05.16 12:51:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • When I was younger I used to enjoy Neal Stephenson. Although I must say he doesn’t commit fully to fantasy he does however tie in a lot of actual historic fact into his work so you actually enjoy being grounded, but still good to read.

  • Comment 123, posted at 27.05.16 12:54:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 122) : Audio books are fine, provided it’s not a continuation of something I’ve already read. If the voice of the narrator doesn’t do a decent approximation of how I think the character should sound, it loses me from the outset.

  • Comment 124, posted at 27.05.16 12:54:43 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 123) : I used to be hugely into Stehpen Donaldson. And this relates to your Neal Stephenson post by virtue of both authors sharing many of the same letters in their names/surnames.

  • Comment 125, posted at 27.05.16 12:56:41 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 124) : Ja I’ve experienced that. It’s actually curious how, with today’s technology, audio books are not a richer experience with multiple voices and sound effects. Are they just lazy?

  • Comment 126, posted at 27.05.16 12:56:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Well look at that, I have one of them sheriff stars as a status! When did that happen?

  • Comment 127, posted at 27.05.16 12:57:56 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 126) : There is such sweet irony in that statement

  • Comment 128, posted at 27.05.16 13:08:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 128) : Yes and you would find it without looking at the context. I did state that audio books are a good alternative for when you don’t have time to read. Or when you are driving. Not as a permanent substitute for actually reading.

  • Comment 129, posted at 27.05.16 13:11:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 129) : They are also good for those with poor or no eyesight. A rich experience is possible with very little extra work.

  • Comment 130, posted at 27.05.16 13:14:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I see Sharks Book Club is in full swing…will leave you chaps too it. Interested to see the banter after AC makes his announcement tomorrow

  • Comment 131, posted at 27.05.16 13:19:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 131) : Yup. Also the sharks book club is eagerly awaiting John Smits second a book after captain in the cauldron. CEO in die sop.

  • Comment 132, posted at 27.05.16 13:22:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 131) : Sharks Book Club :lol: All I want to see is Toetie announcing Pat Lambie as the Springbok captain.
    @coolfusion (Comment 132) : :mrgreen: Lovit!

  • Comment 133, posted at 27.05.16 13:24:40 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 133) : Ja see him announce Pat then swing camera left to see Heineke Meyer’s face!

  • Comment 134, posted at 27.05.16 13:25:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 132) : :lol:

  • Comment 135, posted at 27.05.16 13:27:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 132) : Now that could be quite a tell all book…maybe Plum can write the Forward…

  • Comment 136, posted at 27.05.16 13:30:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 120) : Yup

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 136) : Ja…but you okes know I’m just kidding right? I still respect John. I just think he was doing the wrong job. Director of Rugby would have suited his skillset and technical expertise way more than the pure business requirements of CEO. Or some other title that could have utilised him better.

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 126) : Check out “The Demon Cycle” (Peter Brett) audio books. They are produced in this way. Should be available on Audible.

  • Comment 139, posted at 27.05.16 13:37:22 by vanmartin Reply
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  • So what’s the biggest favour the sharks can hope for this weekend bulls winning or lions losing? Or bulls losing?

  • Comment 140, posted at 27.05.16 13:37:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 139) : I have actually heard one or two done this way. Very few though. Librivox is the worst though. Cause its volunteer based. Nothing worse than listening to Chaucer be in narrated by a southern gentleman with an overpower drawl and no idea how to pronounce the words.

  • Comment 141, posted at 27.05.16 13:40:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I still think it was a brave move of Steven and Terry to put John in that job,it took the game full circle from the days when Louis Luyt resisted any attempt to pay players and crushed any semblance of player power.John became the first player to step off the field into the seat of real power.
    He was in a better position to look after the players than any one before.
    Hope to hell we don’ revert back to some pencil neck who never strapped on a pair of boots.

  • Comment 142, posted at 27.05.16 13:42:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 138) : You make a good point. @coolfusion (Comment 140) : 50 all draw…

  • Comment 143, posted at 27.05.16 13:45:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 143) : I think everything he did well like structures getting sponsors getting the brand back out there falls in lone with DOR much more than accountancy and business accumen required of CEO. He was probably played out of position.

  • Comment 144, posted at 27.05.16 13:47:57 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 143) : And on reality? Cause I don’t see the stormers going down so it’s bulls pulling the Lions back a bit which will probably not have a huge effect since they are very far ahead of us. Or lions kicking them in the teeth making it easier for us to stay in 3rd. Also there’s the mental aspect. Bulls on a high from beating the stormers then beat the Lions will make it tough to deal with them later?

  • Comment 145, posted at 27.05.16 13:52:09 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 144) : So kinda like that time he was asked to play prop :)

  • Comment 146, posted at 27.05.16 13:55:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 146) : Now I may have some jibes at John in the boardroom. But on the field he has always been my hero. So I’ll abstain. …

  • Comment 147, posted at 27.05.16 13:57:19 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 145) : Stormers would need to be very poor again to lose to Cheetahs…although if DeAllende continues not to pass who knows. Janjies aside the Lions still have a very good side…if Bulls forwards can get upper hand somehow then they have a real chance. Tough one to see which will benefit Sharks…generally you dont want other teams to win away from home

  • Comment 148, posted at 27.05.16 13:57:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 108) :
    On Book 5 – Midnight Tides. Loving every word he’s written so far.

    @Culling Song (Comment 125) :
    Loved the first Thomas Covenant Chronicles – just superb. I advise anyone not to read beyond that. He made Martin’s error and turned his masterpiece into a pay cheque.

    @vanmartin (Comment 139) :
    It’s a trilogy, right? Really enjoyed the first one, not so much the second, and thus haven’t yet delved into the third.

    I enjoyed Weeks’ Night Angel trilogy; not quite literature, but good fun.

  • Comment 149, posted at 27.05.16 14:27:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 149) : Ha Thomas. That wise cracking cynical leper. He really is a man apart…

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 150) :
    But alas, not a man for all seasons.

    That description of Covenant – rings oddly familiar…

  • Comment 151, posted at 27.05.16 14:54:27 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 149) : I’m rereading Midnight Tides at the moment. Tehol and Bugg :grin:

    The Rothfuss books are a trilogy (I think) but the third book isn’t out yet. Will check out the Night Angel trilogy.

    I enjoyed the Thomas Covenant Chronicles but at a point Thomas just seemed to become uncomfortably similar to your average Stormers’ supporter.

  • Comment 152, posted at 27.05.16 14:55:39 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 151) : I wish they could make a movie but they will probably hash it. I actually read it out of sequence since I got the second book first. I still need to read lord Fouls bane. Damn entertaining. Some deeply troubling and complex psychological issues. You need a very dry character to play him. Clint Eastwood if he was younger. ..

  • Comment 153, posted at 27.05.16 14:58:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • He finished it in 2013 but then greed got the better of him. Second chronicles never lived up to the first. Like so many bad sequels. Or maybe he lost touch with the character and intent.

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  • I see the Money Man put the Stormers in for a win… :???:

  • Comment 155, posted at 27.05.16 15:02:57 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • It was like Alice on wonderland on steroids…

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 156) : Alice in Wonderland. …that is.

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 152) :
    Sorry – was talking about the Demon Cycle.

    @coolfusion (Comment 153) :
    I think we could dig up some cantankerous old coots to play ole Thomas.

    If I recall, the first chronicles were written in the 80s or 90′s.

  • Comment 158, posted at 27.05.16 15:08:16 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 158) : Yup he finished the final chronicles in 2013. But by then like I said he had lost touch. Or maybe the world had just become too big to maintain that level of depth and colour.

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 159) : Still helluva accomplishment having a series span more than 3 decades. Props to the man.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 158) : I can think of one cantankerous old coot right here on this blog! Two guesses and the first doesn’t count!

  • Comment 161, posted at 27.05.16 15:13:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 161) : Either that or the role of some under achieving cave wight who never lived up to his potential to become an imbicile. …

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 161) :
    Only one??? Aren’t you the epitome of generosity and goodwill to all men!

  • Comment 163, posted at 27.05.16 17:26:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 152) :
    Erikson’s prose is just as fantastic as his world-building, continent-spanning plots and entertaining characters.

    There was a paragraph from Deadhouse Gates that haunted me in its stark elegance and tragedy. My daughter was about 10 months old and it describes the old historian watching a baby die in its mother’s arms:

    “Like the light of an oil lamp, dimming, dimming, winking out. The moment when the struggle’s already lost, surrendered, and the tiny heart slows in its own realization, then stops in mute wonder. And never stirs again.”

    Beautiful writing expressing one of a parent’s most harrowing fears.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 164) : There is so much in Deadhouse Gates that ‘slays’ one emotionally (for lack of a better term). This one’s also from DG:

    “Children are dying.”
    Lull nodded. “That’s a succinct summary of humankind, I’d say. Who needs tomes and volumes of history? Children are dying. The injustices of the world hide in those three words.”

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 165) :
    That also stuck in my head – it’s just spot on.

    I didn’t expect to enjoy such a grim plot so much, but the quality of writing in DG was just exceptional.

    That is my gripe with Martin and some others – they throw together a few interesting tropes but lack the literary skill to really pull one in. It’s why Tolkien, for example, still looms so large.

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  • At the risk of displaying a distinct lack of literary skill, my reaction to this bit of news is a simple “F*%# THEM!”
    #FarsityCupIsDeadToMe
    http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/varsity-cup/73240-pukke-given-all-clear

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  • @The hound (Comment 29) : I see IKEA has jumped onto your idea, now selling a doorstop called “hodor”… maybe you should sue for royalties? :)

  • Comment 168, posted at 28.05.16 08:33:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 167) : I don’t mind Pukke being given the all clear, but they should then also clear the Impi, and give them their deserved promotion…..even if they have to do a double promo.

  • Comment 169, posted at 28.05.16 08:35:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 164) : @vanmartin (Comment 165) : I love that; incredibly evocative imagery conveyed in the simplest of terms. Makes me think of Cormac McCarthy.

  • Comment 170, posted at 28.05.16 09:20:48 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 169) : Well…I’m not in quite so forgiving a mood towards those schmucks! :mrgreen: Firstly, the verdict shows that facts have little to do with this process. They just do what suits them. Secondly, the Impi thing won’t be changed…just wait for their statement! They’ll have some excuse…bla, bla! Anyway, I’m going to go and continue enjoying my holiday!

  • Comment 171, posted at 28.05.16 09:21:44 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 171) : Agree, they have taken a month to find / invent a loophole, and now they need more time to formulate their statement. Skelm.

  • Comment 172, posted at 28.05.16 10:02:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 166) : Trying to find a copy of Somtow sucharitkul’s – the darling wind. Great book.

  • Comment 173, posted at 28.05.16 10:35:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 173) : Actually search for the whole inquestor series he wrote.

  • Comment 174, posted at 28.05.16 10:38:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I think the Jaguares have just shown us a novel way to make the competition more competitive. When playing the Kings at home you start with a full team and slowly reduce your numbers as the game goes on Jags showed that when playing in PE the visitors should end on 12 players. I suggest that for home games the hosts end on 10. I would just change it a bit and allow the Kings to nominate which player must leave the field at the designated time.

  • Comment 175, posted at 28.05.16 11:15:39 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 175) : Quite bad that the Kings couldn’t capatalise on two tight forwards being red carded…..then again, the Sharks Beat the Saders with 13 players in Christchurch….seems 12 is the bridge too far.

  • Comment 176, posted at 28.05.16 11:32:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • I’m actually starting to question the need of the jaguares in superrugby.too much dirty play.

  • Comment 177, posted at 28.05.16 11:46:44 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 177) : Only now?

  • Comment 178, posted at 28.05.16 12:51:47 by coolfusion Reply

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  • In other news, Lions busy kicking some Bulls assume!

  • Comment 179, posted at 28.05.16 18:02:44 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 179) : Asseblief…

  • Comment 180, posted at 28.05.16 18:03:22 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @Southern_Shark (Comment 180) : My auto correct is all kinds of crazy! :)

  • Comment 181, posted at 28.05.16 18:04:05 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • …and now, AC to get the tongues wagging.

    Only surprise for me would be the absence of Lambie, Marx, Redelinghuys and Faf….as for the rest, I don’t care (I think).

  • Comment 182, posted at 28.05.16 18:51:58 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • April is a surprise

  • Comment 183, posted at 28.05.16 19:12:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Wow the tietas are useless, so many chance to score and possibly win the game

  • Comment 184, posted at 28.05.16 19:15:32 by revolverocelot Reply

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