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Three Sharks start for Ackermann’s “A”‘s


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 8 Jun 2016 at 12:51
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Johan Ackermann has named his South Africa “A” side to play the England Saxons in the first of a two-match series in Bloemfontein on Friday evening.

Garth April, who was released from the Springbok side in order to get a run with the A team, starts at flyhalf, with Nic Grrom (scrumhalf), Sikhumbuzo Notshe (flank) and Scarra Ntubeni (hooker) similarly named in the starting team.

April’s Sharks team mates Thomas du Toit and Stephan Lewies start at loose head prop and lock respectively. Stormers man Vincent Koch completes the front row, while young Capetonian lock JD Schickerling will play alongside Lewies. Nizaam Carr an captain Teboho Mohoje, both of whom have test experience, make up the rest of the pack; Mohoje being the only starting forward not from either the Stormers or the Sharks.

Ackermann has included only two of his Lions backs; Courtnall Skosan and Howard Mnisi are at 11 and 12 respectively, with Free Stater Francois Venter and the lone Bull, Travis ismaiel, completing the three quarter line. Stormers youngster Leolin Zas is a surprise pick at fullback.

Three further Sharks players have made the bench; Coenie Oosthuizen, Jean-Luc du Preez and Lukhanyo Am.

South Africa A
15. Leolin Zas DHL Stormers
14. Travis Ismaiel Vodacom Bulls
13. Francois Venter (vice-captain) Toyota Cheetahs
12. Howard Mnisi Emirates Lions
11. Courtnall Skosan Emirates Lions
10. Garth April Cell C Sharks
9. Nic Groom DHL Stormers
8. Nizaam Carr DHL Stormers
7. Oupa Mohoje (captain) Toyota Cheetahs
6. Sikhumbuzo Notshe DHL Stormers
5. Stephan Lewies Cell C Sharks
4. JD Schickerling DHL Stormers
3. Vincent Koch DHL Stormers/Steval Pumas
2. Scarra Ntubeni DHL Stormers
1. Thomas du Toit Cell C Sharks
Replacements:
16. Malcolm Marx Emirates Lions
17. Lizo Gqoboka Vodacom Bulls
18. Coenie Oosthuizen Cell C Sharks
19. RG Snyman Vodacom Bulls
20. Jean-Luc du Preez Cell C Sharks
21. Piet van Zyl Vodacom Bulls
22. Francois Brummer Vodacom Bulls/Steval Pumas
23. Lukhanyo Am Southern Kings/Cell C Sharks



121 Comments

  • Good for April. To think he was playing club rugby last year… the wheel has turned

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.06.16 12:58:20 by the-other-sharky Reply
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  • I think this is going to be a very tough game for us

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.06.16 12:58:32 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • If JA can get these guys to gel quickly Saxons are going to be in for a seriously tough day at the office.

    Great to see Garth,Stephan, and Thomas all getting a start.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.06.16 13:00:23 by gregkaos Reply
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  • thomas at no1.

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.06.16 13:08:45 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Excellent to see Lewies getting his deserved starting spot – this after he was left out of the initial squad….clearly showed what he’s made of during training sessions.

    Really looking forward to seeing our guys in this game.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.06.16 13:10:00 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • What is the height of the loosies?

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.06.16 13:10:26 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Quite an interesting selection. Think they will have a tough game against the Saxons but its so good for our rugby that this side is playing. A lot of good players in the 23 so hopefully they can all perform and put pressure on those in the Bok side. Interesting not many Lions in this side and unlikely to be many in the Bok side either

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.06.16 13:10:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 3) : I’m a little worried about that front row but at least Thomas is playing at loosehead.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.06.16 13:17:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 5) : That a really good point regarding Lewies.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.06.16 13:18:01 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 9) : It’s somewhat frustrating that Lewies is overlooked onso many occasions, just to eventually prove that he should have been the first guy on the he team sheet.

    Great character shown by him by not giving up…the type of player I feel kids need to look up to as a role model.

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.06.16 13:21:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 7) : only 3 Lions in that squad with Mostert staying with the Boks. Marx the bench and other two starting.

    @vanmartin (Comment 8) : Maybe. I rate Vincent though.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.06.16 13:22:19 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : Couldn’t agree more

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.06.16 13:22:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Going to be an interesting game! Congrats to all who made the team (especially the Sharks players).

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.06.16 13:23:29 by JD Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 11) : Yeh its just interesting that as a team the Lions are highly rated but as individuals not necessarily the best in their positions…

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.06.16 13:26:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : this is true. Unforgivable soccer reference alert -> sort of like Leicester FC.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.06.16 13:32:02 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 15) : @SheldonK (Comment 14) : seems to be the thinking of most Bokke coaches.

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.06.16 13:35:05 by JD Reply
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  • @gregkaos (Comment 11) : I do rate both but feel that Koch and Ntubeni haven’t played to potential this season. I guess one could make a similar argument against du Toit being a little undercooked too. But ultimately that’s what SA ‘A’ is for, isn’t it? Giving the ‘bubbling under’ players some game time and exposure to the Bok culture. My original concern is moot I guess.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.06.16 13:36:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : Yup spot on. Someone said something about him been a ridiculously quick learner when he first got his call up. Can’t find the article.
    We’ve go no shortage of brawn in our locks but how many could become a Victor Matfield (not talking about last years one but the one who seemed to be able to read opponents lineouts better than them)

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.06.16 13:37:24 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 16) : Bearing in mind that in the last good few years the Lions have only been performing for a couple years i dont think its most Bokke coaches, just 1 really.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.06.16 13:38:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 17) : 100%, its to give the bumbling under players a chance to show if they are in fact the real deal and if they can make the step up a level.

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.06.16 13:39:35 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 17) : I’m way too biased to think that Thomas is undercooked :)

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.06.16 13:40:45 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 20) : was that a genuine typo?

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.06.16 13:40:51 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.06.16 13:42:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 22) : haha yes indeed, didnt even realise till your comment. haha

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.06.16 13:47:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 24) : Got a feeling it might stick though :grin:

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.06.16 13:52:09 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @the-other-sharky (Comment 1) : It sure has, this time last week he was probably imagining a bench place in the test time but starting for the next best is a long, long way on from playing club rugby.

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.06.16 13:54:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 7) : banking on Elton , kriel , Mapoe , faf and Whiteley ….

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.06.16 14:04:38 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 27) : Faf and Mapoe likely to start with Whitely and Elton on the bench. Dont think Kriel and Combrinck will feature on Sat. Thats my guesstimate

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.06.16 14:08:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @gregkaos (Comment 21) : Thomas would need a lot of cooking time at 180 celsiuis, hours and hours.

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.06.16 14:09:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : sad that Kriel and Combrink wont be there . move verdwain to 7 aand have kriel at 6 with warren at 8 !! lets make it happen !

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.06.16 14:10:05 by Zibbie Reply
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  • So much for choosing on current form,Ntubeni ahead of Marx,Carr,Nhotshe ahead of Jean -Luc.in whose world

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.06.16 14:11:34 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : Ntubeni playing ahead as he was in the Bok squad. Notshe same boat.

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.06.16 14:19:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 30) : Yeh i still think Vermuelen is more of a 7 then an 8. Whiteley’s linking play would have aided the Boks attack. But im not surprised AC is going with the experience in his first game.

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.06.16 14:20:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 32) : So you agree then that ”on current form”they are the better players.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.06.16 14:21:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : sure . needs some XP . Hoping he brings other players in with time .

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.06.16 14:24:20 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 32) : True, but illogical logic that.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.06.16 14:25:17 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 34) : In terms of the hookers probably not. If Marx was the constant no.1 at the Lions i think he could have possibly made the Bok side. So perhaps to much rotation cost him there. In terms of the loose forwards its a pretty close call. All have been solid not spectacular. On current form Tecklenberg should be ahead of all of them to be honest.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.06.16 14:27:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Well in that case he should have gone with Bismarck,Jannie and Frans,

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.06.16 14:29:08 by The hound Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 35) : I think he will. He seems open to new players and ideas as a coach. Time will tell i guess but yeh in his first game with the experience available it wont be a surprising pick/s

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.06.16 14:29:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 30) : What a dream that would be, that would be an incredible loose trio

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.06.16 14:29:28 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : I would hardly rate Ntubeni on his playing time this season and actually don’t think he started one game this year.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.06.16 14:30:47 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : No why? He has Beast and Strauss who are experienced and playing locally.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.06.16 14:31:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Wonder if Marcel when he recovers will get a look in with this coach

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.06.16 14:32:40 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 41) : Ntubeni is more than likely there on his past performances and having been called up before. I dont think AC got the hooker picks correct. But rest of his squad is good so cant complain too much.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.06.16 14:33:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : Ackerman believes heavily in rotation, so Marx, not starting every game should not be seen as him not being his first choice.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.06.16 14:38:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 44) : seriously ,Nic Groom,Zas,Ishmael,Schiekerling,Carr,none of them would make the Sharks team and this is a shadow Bok team.

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.06.16 14:39:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 46) : agreed bar Shickerling – I rate him highly.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.06.16 14:41:30 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : In Ackermann’s eyes yes. In others perhaps not…thats my point

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.06.16 14:44:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 46) : I forget that the Sharks are top of the log and playing amazing rugby…. and the SA A side is hardly a side made up 100% of the next guy in line for the Boks. If anything the Kings hooker should feel hard done by as on form he is probably one of the best in SA currently

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.06.16 14:47:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 49) : The point you are missing is that Coetzee went on record as his first statement as a coach that he would only pick on current form.Current form means your last two games,on current form Marx is the best hooker in the country,Ntubeni is not.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.06.16 14:51:53 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 50) : who says current form is only last 2 games? Thats only your measure. Im sure AC meant current form would be a main consideration, not the only consideration. Not even the best side in the world the All Blacks picks solely on current form (2 games).

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.06.16 15:06:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : Ackerman is coaching this team though, I can imagine it was not a pleasant task having to tell Marx that he must move down a bench spot now that a hooker has been released from the Boks.

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.06.16 15:06:44 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • On Marx, he is, at best, seen as the 4th best hooker in SA. If Bismark was to be considered then he would be in 5th spot and possibly out of the reckoning for a spot in a representative team. That should be a sobering thought for Akker.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.06.16 15:11:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 52) : I think it would have been an easy conversation as the players arent idiots, they knew whoever was coming down would start. Not worth wasting time getting upset as thats the facts and they knew that. Perhaps if anything Marx should want Ackermann to start him more in Lions games so they he can make a play for the Bok squad.

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.06.16 15:13:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : Marx has been starting in the Lions games the angry warthog is normally used as an impact player,much the same way as Ntubeni is used.
    The smart thing to do would be to cap Marx now before he does a Stander,

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.06.16 15:19:02 by The hound Reply
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  • I reckon this team due to lack of playing together will exceed expectations in beating the Saxons (who are much more settled unit playing regular games each year). The A team is a good idea though – hopefully SA Rugby ensures more games in future.

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.06.16 15:25:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 55) : I dont think capping a player just to prevent him going off to play for someone else is smart. If he wants to sulk and go then so be it. As i said the Kings hooker has been better than both of them so if anybody should feel hard done by its perhaps him.

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.06.16 15:25:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 55) : He is tied to SA already – having played for the U/20 in the JRWC.

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.06.16 15:26:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 58) : sadly …

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.06.16 15:30:28 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 58) : How did Stander get away with it then am convinced he played a junior WC,talking about the one who is playing for Ireland

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.06.16 15:35:31 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : only after the 2012 JWC .

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.06.16 15:39:21 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 61) : thanks wasn’t aware of that

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.06.16 15:42:55 by The hound Reply
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  • I still think these guys missed the boat here they could have had a front row of Dylan Smith,Marx ,and Thomas all under 22,and kept them together for the next world cup.

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.06.16 15:46:20 by The hound Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 59) : He deserves to play for a national team – he is really very good.

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.06.16 15:47:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 64) : He is still young im sure he will get a chance if he keeps performing. To want to cast his back on his country and play for someone else just because he hasnt got a chance yet sounds like a kid throwing a tantrum. I would like to think he is more composed than that.

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.06.16 15:54:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • imo top 2 hookers in sa is marutule and marx.

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.06.16 16:15:28 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 63) : or thomas marx/marutule malberbe?

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.06.16 16:17:14 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 67) : I like Smith and he is 22.
    Smith/Marx/Thomas/PSDT/Lewies/Twins/Marcell for the next World Cup,think Marcell is the old man at 24

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.06.16 16:23:48 by The hound Reply
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  • So no one in SA rates Vincent Koch anymore?

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.06.16 19:25:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 69) : He needs to get his head sorted as the Argies messed his confidence. He has not come close to last year’s performances since being worked over and put in reverse gear.

  • Comment 70, posted at 09.06.16 05:18:27 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 69) : His move to Saracens will be good for him. He needs a fresh start. His move to WP has failed and he has hardly played.

  • Comment 71, posted at 09.06.16 08:02:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 70) : Yeah, as a prop, having your head pushed up your arse can break your career,

  • Comment 72, posted at 09.06.16 09:27:38 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Awesome! I got my silver star! :lol: Thanks Rob, it’s the small things that can make your day :smile:

  • Comment 73, posted at 09.06.16 09:28:43 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 73) : well done! But don’t thank me – it’s all your own doing :)

  • Comment 74, posted at 09.06.16 09:36:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 74) : Thanks bud.

  • Comment 75, posted at 09.06.16 09:47:33 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 71) : @KingRiaan (Comment 72) : It is always tough when you have to rotate with a Captain.

    is the less than R300k transfer fee Sarries paid true? that is a joke and a big blow for Pumas if true

  • Comment 76, posted at 09.06.16 10:00:53 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 72) : I was always under the impression that’s a rite of passage for any young prop.

  • Comment 77, posted at 09.06.16 10:06:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 76) : There are rumours about it but i dont know for sure. These transfer fees arent exactly set in stone or formalised so its more just a mutual agreement thing.

  • Comment 78, posted at 09.06.16 10:15:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 41) : In Test rugby you can’t only rely on form but also look at a players consistancy performing at a high level over a long period of time and Ntubeni was in a front that dominated every front row in SR consistantly over 3/4 years. Marx will definately get his chance, the hooker i’m worried about is Akker as he is also playing fantastic ragga but is nowhere on the rada. Hooker and S/H were difficult picks for AC loosies too however those left with the squad have proved they can perform on the Int level.

  • Comment 79, posted at 09.06.16 11:06:20 by Tumza Reply

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  • Those attacking the selection of Kolisi saying he is not that good a player :???: I dont recall any test he was shown up as a Q player, lets stop attacking players and support the Boks. Would also like to see Charles Marais and Dylan from the Lions he should have been in the Boks Jnr dont you think :?: :?: :shock:

  • Comment 80, posted at 09.06.16 11:09:56 by Tumza Reply

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  • @Tumza (Comment 79) : I am only repeating what Coetzee said that he is picking on current form,and Ntubeni has done nothing this year to even earn a starting place with the Stormers.Marx is the current form hooker.If you were going on your argument that the choice must be made on 3/4 years consistency, then the choice has to be Bismarck.

  • Comment 81, posted at 09.06.16 11:20:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @Tumza (Comment 80) : smit of the lions is not eligible for u20s.

  • Comment 82, posted at 09.06.16 11:57:37 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 81) : If we were to do that than it would be a PDV kind of thing and I don’t think Bismark vs Ntubeni’s performances over that period for SR sides Bismark would win hands down, go back to the archives of those seasons yu will see why I say so

  • Comment 83, posted at 09.06.16 12:01:30 by Tumza Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 82) : Isn’t he 19 :?: :?: :oops: :oops:

  • Comment 84, posted at 09.06.16 12:02:10 by Tumza Reply

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  • @Tumza (Comment 84) : 22 this year

  • Comment 85, posted at 09.06.16 12:08:54 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 85) : thanks just saw it as well :mrgreen:

  • Comment 86, posted at 09.06.16 12:15:00 by Tumza Reply

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  • @Tumza (Comment 80) : Who’s attacking Kolisi? You’re the only person to have mentioned him in this thread.

  • Comment 87, posted at 09.06.16 12:50:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 87) : In this thread yes but when the squad was announced it was said in tis platform that a JLD,J Kirsten were supposed to be selected above Kolisi. The Hound was one of those people :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 88, posted at 09.06.16 12:57:57 by Tumza Reply

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  • @Tumza (Comment 88) : Hmmm, now that you mention it, maybe the Hound had a point. :twisted:

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  • JK stats: tries 1,carries 83,metres 197,clean breaks 2, DB 9, offloads 2,passes 24, LC 2, LS 1, tackles 120,tackles % 93
    SK stats: tries 2,carries 57, metres 218,clean breaks 7, DB 17, offloads 8,passed 24, LC 3,LS 0, tackles 77,tackles % 89.5
    JLD stats: tries 1, carries 65, metres 131,clean breaks 2,DB 10,offloads 6,passed 29,LC 4,LS 0,tackles 115,tackles % 91.3

    Sk played the lowest mins :arrow: DRUMS :grin: :mrgreen: :twisted: WHO IS THE BEST :?: :?: ;-)

  • Comment 90, posted at 09.06.16 13:56:13 by Tumza Reply

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  • @Tumza (Comment 90) : Marcel Coetzee any day of the week. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 91, posted at 09.06.16 14:11:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Tumza (Comment 88) : Are you wpw in disguise? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 92, posted at 09.06.16 14:12:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Tumza (Comment 88) : I think Kolisi had a bad season and wasn’t picked on his recent form , he was good when he just burst onto the scene . I’m disappointed that Alberts was not picked but other overseas players were . Siya kolisi is also a bit small playing 7 I would rather pick someone like Kirsten or JLDP at 7 .

  • Comment 93, posted at 09.06.16 14:22:51 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @Tumza (Comment 88) : Nope, not true I’m afraid. Go check for yourself. No attacks in either the Bok or A squad announcement threads. Let’s not stir unnecessarily.

  • Comment 94, posted at 09.06.16 14:24:00 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 94) : Vanmartin, Sharksworld ombudsman supreme. :cool:

  • Comment 95, posted at 09.06.16 14:28:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Are any Jhb, Pta based bloggers going to the Lions vs Sharks game at Ellis Park?

  • Comment 96, posted at 09.06.16 14:29:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • umm, play nice and stuff.

    And Marcell kicks Siya’s ass in every conceivable way. It is known.

  • Comment 97, posted at 09.06.16 15:37:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Tumza (Comment 90) : you must have missed the quite lenghty debate where does type of rugga stats got exposed for carrying no weight.

  • Comment 98, posted at 09.06.16 15:56:34 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 94) :
    Hooker selections a bit of a joke given what’s available. Also Kollisi has been chosen ahead of better men. But I suppose Alister has political pressures to cope with as well. It’s never cut and dry for a bok coach. Nice to see young fresh players instead of the Heineke Meyer pensioner circus. Would a selection like this have delivered a better world cup result if they had 3 years?
    Comment 38, posted at 29.05.16 10:37:26 by coolfusion

  • Comment 99, posted at 10.06.16 09:22:23 by Tumza Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 93) : any proof :?: :?:

  • Comment 100, posted at 10.06.16 09:23:05 by Tumza Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 91) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 92) : I’m with you on Marcel but not as a blinside, I think he developed into the best opensider the Boks can use so i’d swap him with Louw :razz:

  • Comment 101, posted at 10.06.16 09:25:19 by Tumza Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 98) : But atleast it gives an impression that certain individuals are not as out of form as people might think. We also have to look at how the combos have played, the game plan tat certain player is asked to play and the off the ball stuff, so ja stats only give us a portion but still vital in the technologically developed game that is ragga today :cool:

  • Comment 102, posted at 10.06.16 09:29:54 by Tumza Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 93) : personally I would not pick Alberts as his time for that is done.

  • Comment 103, posted at 10.06.16 10:19:31 by JD Reply
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  • @Tumza (Comment 99) : That’s not an attack on Kolisi. That’s one person rating one player above another. The commentor never got nasty about Kolisi. Every commenter on every rugby side has their favourites. By all means, call out anyone who personally attacks a player and I’ll happily back you up on it every time but let’s, all of us, try steer clear of tarring multiple people with the same brush.

  • Comment 104, posted at 10.06.16 10:54:38 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Tumza (Comment 102) : I’m more worried about Flouw’s form than I am about Kolisi’s. Siya will find an extra gear for the Boks. Based on last year WC performances I’m less sure that Flouw can step it up.

  • Comment 105, posted at 10.06.16 10:57:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 105) : I would agree. Kolisi has been a lot better in 216 than he was last year. Perhaps being fully fit helps. Louw hasnt been in the best of form for Bath so interested to see how he goes. I would have gone with Kriel instead probably.

  • Comment 106, posted at 10.06.16 11:02:51 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 105) : @SheldonK (Comment 106) : personally I would have selected Marcell as he’s the future. Louw Alberts etc will not make next World cup and are currently not in top form so why select them?

  • Comment 107, posted at 10.06.16 11:16:09 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 107) : Why would you select an injured player for this squad? Yes Marcel when he is fit but he isnt so cant say he should be there now.

  • Comment 108, posted at 10.06.16 11:21:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 107) : @SheldonK (Comment 108) : I’m sure Marcell would have been there had he not been injured and I’d go as far as stating that it may have been at the expense of Flouw.

  • Comment 109, posted at 10.06.16 11:30:51 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 109) : Possibly yes. But thats not the current situation so cant be critical of AC for not picking Marcell in this squad. Think Marcell is only going to be fit in 2017 i think.

  • Comment 110, posted at 10.06.16 11:36:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 105) : @SheldonK (Comment 106) : I think 7 is by far Kolisi’s best position. I think his loss of form was (at least partially) due to him being moved around not being allowed to settle in that position.

  • Comment 111, posted at 10.06.16 11:45:10 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 111) : The number on his back should make a difference but its which role he performs with a loose trio. He did have injury concerns at the start of 2015 s dont think he ever got fully fit. And now he is and he does have good potential. I would like to see both Kriel and Whitely get a chance though…even in tandem with him or Vermuelen.

  • Comment 112, posted at 10.06.16 11:50:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 104) : Just thought mentioning those players and politics as a means of their selection was a bit personal hence I commented because he has’nt been that bad, but all is well :grin: :lol: :grin:

  • Comment 113, posted at 10.06.16 12:56:23 by Tumza Reply

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  • I did not watch the game, how did the Sharks guys go? Ive read some reports that say T du Toit, Lewies and April were not up to it.

  • Comment 114, posted at 11.06.16 09:36:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 114) : Some points being made about the time they had to prepare. I don’t know how it compares to the time the Saxons had. April on the back foot the whole game. Lewies was ok but the whole team was bland so that doesn’t say much. Whole performance seemed without any plan or structure. Maybe time will help. Mnisi was piss poor and Nick Groom well …. let’s say he is still very fast away from international if Piet van Zyl outperforms you you should know. What scrumhalf prospects dies SA have? Faf is ok but will need time Paige is mediocre Reinach is inconsistent. .. really big hole there…

  • Comment 115, posted at 11.06.16 09:56:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 115) : If I was Allister I would get Claasens involved but I don’t know if he will see next world cup though.

  • Comment 116, posted at 11.06.16 09:57:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 114) : Lewies was great, but Tommy and Garth very disappointing.

    Tommy clearly doesn’t want to be playing loose head. His whole body language was very wrong to me.

  • Comment 117, posted at 11.06.16 11:09:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 115) : @robdylan (Comment 117) : Thanks, a little bit too much too quickly for Grath, ease him in and he will be fine. Maybe its time to put the Thomas’ best position to bed, play him whee he feels most comfortable and he must be honest about where that is and not try to be the good guy and try and please all as to what positions he can play. Glad to hear that Stephan was good.

  • Comment 118, posted at 11.06.16 11:32:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • April wasn’t good, but one of my pet hates is when the 9 and loosies decide that they are going to run the plays. It makes the attack predictable and it’s not good for the confidence of a young 10. I get the feeling that April is like Jantjies in needing to know that he is backed to pull the strings.

    I won’t say anything about Mnisi at 12…

  • Comment 119, posted at 11.06.16 13:07:55 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 119) : Agree or Ntubeni he was terrible
    Watching AB/Wales and Eng /Aus and think of April playing at this level is laughable,maybe in 2 years time but he is nowhere near playing here now.

  • Comment 120, posted at 11.06.16 13:13:29 by The hound Reply
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  • 100% agree with Rob. April has only had limited time and already wearing a green and gold A jersey that’s already a hell of a start. .. .now just let him have sime time in the currie cup and tgen rotate with Pat and he will be great in 2 years. ..why rush him? Or is that a sully q? Lambie will show his class today.

  • Comment 121, posted at 11.06.16 16:31:12 by Sharkfinn Reply

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