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Combrinck, Whiteley start in decider


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 23 Jun 2016 at 14:32
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Allister Coetzee has made just two changes to his Springbok starting side for Saturday’s series decider against the Irish in Port Elizabeth. Lions player Warren Whiteley and Ruan Combrinck will each start a test for the first time.

Combrinck comes in at left wing for the unfortunate Lwazi Mvovo, dropped after an uncharacteristically shaky defensive performance at Ellis Park. Mvovo joins Rudy Paige and Morne Steyn on the bench this week.

Whiteley will wear the number 8 jersey, with Duane Vermeulen ruled out due to injury. Jaco Kriel, another Lions fan favourite, moves up into the matchday squad for the first time. The final bench change sees uncapped Steven Kitshoff come in for injured Trevor Nyakane.

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Ruan Combrinck, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 JP Pietersen, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Siya Kolisi, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Julian Redelinghuys, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jaco Kriel, 21 Rudy Paige, 22 Morné Steyn, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.



100 Comments

  • Who wants to put money on kriel not getting his cap?

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.06.16 14:34:04 by Hulk Reply
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  • Team is pretty much as i thought it would be. Hope to see Kriel gets his debut and id like to see Mbonambi get a run and see if he has what he takes. He was selected so lets see. Two things i really want to see is some aggression from the Boks and our back 3 to go looking for work

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.06.16 14:36:00 by SheldonK Reply
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  • Malherbe still starting? Crazy.

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.06.16 14:36:58 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • JPP might be a little lucky here and Mvovo a little unlucky. A lot more luck is at play in Malherbe, de Allende and Flouw’s starts :twisted:

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.06.16 14:37:02 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 4) : imo jpp is still one of the wings you want in your team when playing nz.

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.06.16 14:42:05 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • Rewind a few months a every man and his dog was crying for Malherbe to replace Jannie and when he did he scrummed well and was good in open play. What has happened since? Is the the mind of the Sa rugby player that weak that their form can fluctuate so badly?

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.06.16 14:43:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Boks still short of mongrel in the forwards. All flashy players, but no real grunt workers. We need someone to make some fire under the forwards arses. Louw has been useless and Kolisi has been willing but ineffective.

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.06.16 14:44:13 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : was thinking the same thing this week: he was dominant vs the argies in the 3rd/4th place play-off and very impressive vs nz in the semi’s ( scrums,etc).

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.06.16 14:49:06 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : He was one of the better players at the RWC. Strange to see how he just went backwards since then.

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.06.16 14:49:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • That loose trio is still unbalanced. Skin of our teeth stuff hopefully.

    In other news, I see that Curwin Bosch, the defensive imbecile, is in line for player of the tournament…

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.06.16 14:50:32 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 8) : @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : i just look as his body language not only for the Boks but for Stormers too..he looks disinterested and not fired up at all. It points to him being mentally weak im afraid

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.06.16 14:50:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 7) : We cannot just rely on PSDT to provide some go forward and offensive tackling.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.06.16 14:51:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 7) : I do agree to an extent. Who would be the mongrel players you would look to? Or do you think these guys just need to find their aggression?

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.06.16 14:53:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 12) : That’s what I’ve been saying all along. Duane has been a shadow of himself so far, otherwise I would have said he could fulfill that role, it’s a shame Marcell is injured. Jaen-Luc might be the number 7 to fulfill that mongrel role.

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.06.16 14:54:44 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : We also need Bismarck back in the Bok set up.

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.06.16 14:57:37 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 10) : Loose trio lacks a mean bastard amongst other things.

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.06.16 14:57:42 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 14) : You need someone with mongrel who can also play clever – i.e. run at gaps and run good support lines. In a year or two JLDP may be the man for the 7 jersey.

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.06.16 15:00:12 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 15) : yes.

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.06.16 15:04:13 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 7) : 6 marcell 7 psdt .like the look of that the more I look at it.just such a shame about marcell’s injury.

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.06.16 15:07:52 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 11) : …or his heart is set on an overseas contract.

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.06.16 15:11:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 20) : If so his performances arent driving up his asking price.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.06.16 15:15:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 16) : PSdT does the job at 7 for me…we’ve suddenly got an abundance of quality locks (especially looking at the future). PSdT to me would make a far better 7 than lock….7 would also utilise his athletic abilities better, than having him stuck in a scrum.

    Last weekend’s second half forwards had far more grunt and go-forward momentum.

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.06.16 15:15:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 15) : He has been playing well. I think the 7 position is also a bit of an issue at the moment and we dont have the right fit currently.

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.06.16 15:15:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : Would you then also agree that PSDT should be playing 7 at WP and a guy like Schickerling should combine with Etzebeth in the WP 2nd row?

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.06.16 15:17:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 21) : Most of the streamers players look extremely unhappy, both nationally and domestically….(I’d also be pretty miffed to hear santa claus decided to skip on my chimney, and we’re stuck with klaas vakie). :lol:

    …only guy still performing is PSdT, but he’s probably still running on Sharks fumes. :twisted:

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.06.16 15:20:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 24) : YES!!!

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.06.16 15:21:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • If i had to pick my ideal Bok pack: 1. Beast 2. Bismarck. 3 Redelinghuis 4. Etzebeth 5. PSDT 6. Kriel. 7. Coetzee. 8 Whiteley. Bench: DuToit, Marx, Malherbe, De Jager, Vermuelen

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.06.16 15:21:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 26) : I concur…for the greater good :)

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.06.16 15:23:30 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 25) : That just leads me back to how weak minded our SA players are. (i do get your point though)

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.06.16 15:24:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : I agree with you there

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.06.16 15:25:55 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • PSDT is a fantastic lock,only guy in the entire Bok team that would make the AB’s and it would be at lock with Rettalick.
    In this country and on this site especially we are obsessed with size for locks,yet I lookout the young England lock Itoje
    only 1.95 metres and the best player on the field in both Eng/Aus tests.

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.06.16 15:27:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : He does look taller than 1.95m as im 1.94m and he definitely looks taller than me. perhaps its tv playing tricks

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.06.16 15:29:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 32) : Wikipedia,maybe your measuring tape is playing tricks on you.

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.06.16 15:35:17 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 33) : haha i wish, maybe then id find clothes that fit. Itoje just looks like he has shot up a lot since he captained the eng u20s. But i do agree with your sentiment that being the tallest bloke is key

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.06.16 15:38:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : the reason PSDT must play flank rather than lock is not cause his shorter than a typical SA lock e.g(De jager/Etzebeth)but rather cause his mobility would be more used at loose forward than lock. Our locks are more mobile and better than NZ locks imo. And always have been. Think we are the country with the best locks in world rugby . Retalick is a over rated player in my view . I would pick Paul willemse and Jauques du Plessis ahead of whitelock and Retalick any day . Infact I could think of 4 of our locks that would be a cut above any other lock in world rugby

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.06.16 15:40:22 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : if you’re using the games against Ireland than maybe but in the WC the best 2 locks were De jager and Etzebeth and they stood out from the rest of the locks at the tournament

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.06.16 15:43:10 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • Hope I live long enough to see Psdt,the twins,Marcell,and Lewies in full cry,behind Thomas,Marx and Dylan Smith,at the next World Cup.
    And pigs will surf.

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.06.16 15:43:18 by The hound Reply
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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 35) : You just proved my point,and honestly you don’t watch a lot of decent rugby if you think Rettalick is overrated that just plain bullshit.

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.06.16 15:46:24 by The hound Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : I’d leave PSdT at 5. He’s doing a fine job there. Kolisi seems to be struggling to find his place in the current game plan and it’s not for a lack of trying. Unfair to expect him to be a Willem Alberts. That carrying role, straight into traffic, should be given to someone like Etzebeth or Beast perhaps. Will be interesting to see how the Boks approach this weekend’s game.

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.06.16 15:48:39 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 39) : Following on from your comment i would like to see our tight 5 carry the ball more with the loosies we have playing a faster tempo linking role and running off shoulders etc.

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.06.16 15:52:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : standing reach , vertical leap and size of hands also play a role in line-out ability.

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.06.16 15:55:41 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 39) : Beast? Are you for real? The last time beast made more than two meters carrying the ball was in 2008

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.06.16 15:55:48 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 42) : Take a look at any prop, it’s as if they are not allowed no carry the ball for too long, normally you count them making two, three meters before hitting the ground. These are normally your strongest players on the field, yet they make the least amount of meters. Beast started out as an 8thman, therefore has pace to equal his power, yet I don’t think he is given the freedom to ”fight” for some extra meters.

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.06.16 16:00:14 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : etzebeth,de jager,marcell,psdt running off each other would be a terrifying sight for intl teams.

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.06.16 16:03:48 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 43) : one of the best ball carier props I’ve seen was Dean greyling from the Bulls but he was a walking yellow card and couldn’t scrum. I can remember his powerful runs though the man could run through a brick wall.

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.06.16 16:05:54 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 45) : It again boils down to the orders from the coach. i have played under coaches who wanted me to run with the ball, and I have played under coaches who only wanted me to take the ball straight into contact and recycle for the next phase.

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.06.16 16:09:51 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 42) : I take it you did not watch the second test?!?! Although not as good in the past Beast did have a couple of good runs.

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.06.16 16:19:24 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 48) : He never made one tackle in that game though

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.06.16 16:22:31 by The hound Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 39) : Should we really continue with a struggling player in Kolisi (or Malherbe, or Strauss, or Mvovo, or Louw – Etsebeth and duh duh dullende on the edge out-of-form ), whilst in-form players are expected to save the test in the 2nd half (Mostert, Redelinghuys, Combrink)?

    Last weekend proved something that had long been ignored in SA – form trumps “class”/reputation.

  • Comment 49, posted at 23.06.16 16:26:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 35) : please tell me you’re not serious? Yes we have some good locks but 4 that’s better than any other locks in the world?!?!?! Have to agree with @The hound I think you must watch some other quality teams play!

  • Comment 50, posted at 23.06.16 16:26:29 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 49) : Whats new here,Meyer allowed Spies 50 tests before he realised he had a lemon.Zane had how many games,Greyling and Potgieter,were given caps,all thats happened is that we have changed provinces.

  • Comment 51, posted at 23.06.16 16:29:29 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 48) : maybe not but I do think he had a solid game with good scrumming and a couple of runs so no need to drop him. There’s lots of other players that did not have good games that should have been dropped.

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.06.16 16:29:44 by JD Reply
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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 46) : this one https://youtu.be/zuEd58aaNM4 . Yess ’twas a great game and we beat them! There were some angry boertjies in the stands afterwards, I always love beating the Bulls at loftus. Those were the days of mitchelack as well .

  • Comment 53, posted at 23.06.16 16:31:10 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 51) : …which is why we’ve been stuck at no. 2 to 6 for all these years.

    All of our coaches continue to select out-of-form players, because “class is permanent, form is temporary” – aka being picked on reputation.

  • Comment 54, posted at 23.06.16 16:33:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 54) : Cant help thinking what our rugby would be like if Eddie Jones had been given the job,all the boetie /boetie provincial politics would have gone out the door

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.06.16 16:36:56 by The hound Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 50) : I watch a lot of European club rugby . Paul willemse and Jauques du Plessis were the best locks at top 14 and de jager and etzebeth were best at WC.

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.06.16 16:37:20 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 56) : Do you take those glasses off when you watch

  • Comment 57, posted at 23.06.16 16:39:02 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 57) : I’m a cat, don’t need glasses

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.06.16 16:41:36 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 49) : I don’t have a straight-forward yes/no answer to that question I’m afraid.

  • Comment 59, posted at 23.06.16 17:00:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Can someone please explain to me what Francois Louw brings to the table.

  • Comment 60, posted at 23.06.16 17:01:20 by Ben Reply
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  • Why is Mapoe escaping severe criticism. He has been the worst back in the series. Not up to standard for international rugby.

  • Comment 61, posted at 23.06.16 17:04:39 by sudhir Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 60) : Aside from beers?

    @sudhir (Comment 61) : Look to his inside you must.

  • Comment 62, posted at 23.06.16 17:15:14 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 60) : good tactical kicking :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 63, posted at 23.06.16 18:30:29 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 60) : Next question.

  • Comment 64, posted at 23.06.16 18:45:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 61) : I suppose never getting any decent ball as well as being a debutant. It the poor form of the experienced campaigners that’s the biggest concern.

  • Comment 65, posted at 23.06.16 18:50:22 by Hulk Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 62) :
    Master Yoda?

  • Comment 66, posted at 23.06.16 21:08:03 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 66) :Alistar Coetzee,and Thelelo does a great Jabba the Hut,

  • Comment 67, posted at 23.06.16 23:10:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 56) : Great,now watch some NZ rugby as well, Retallick is a monster!

  • Comment 68, posted at 24.06.16 03:39:00 by BarendL Reply
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  • My 2 cents worth…I would keep PSdT at 5,he became a Bok because of his lock play,not because our loose forwards was ineffective,I would keep him at lock,he is an absolute beast…I would rather have him be a very physical and mobile lock!
    Malherbe,Strauss,Louw and JP all lucky to be there,imo

  • Comment 69, posted at 24.06.16 03:44:19 by BarendL Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 4) : Add Kollisi to that list. Maybe less luck and more privincialism working for some players.

  • Comment 70, posted at 24.06.16 06:55:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Unsurprisingly Stander is starting for Ireland. I think we need to tell all our forwards to make a point of targeting him for big hits. He clearly went out in the first test to make our flyhalf uncomfortable so we must return the favour. A few big hits with extra enthusiasm sghould make him more hesitant to have a full go at our boys. It’s what Sheldon has been talking about for 2 weeks now, get our forwards to dominate completely, don’t give them an inch.

  • Comment 71, posted at 24.06.16 08:13:57 by Hulk Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 35) : :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Sorry but Whitelock and Retallick are the two best locks in the world, both are very athletic with excellent all round skills, hard as nails and don’t shy away from the dirty work.

  • Comment 72, posted at 24.06.16 08:47:55 by Bump Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 66) : Little known fact, Master Yoda played scrumhalf for the Dagobah Force.

  • Comment 73, posted at 24.06.16 10:23:16 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 73) :
    Quality!

    I believe that Han Solo was a flyhalf a bit like Gaffie – very talented but frozen under pressure.

  • Comment 74, posted at 24.06.16 10:30:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 74) : Touché sir, touché

  • Comment 75, posted at 24.06.16 10:58:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 74) : I suppose next you will say Lea played hooker?

  • Comment 76, posted at 24.06.16 13:44:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 76) :
    I’d never say that – she was like a sister to me!

    Darth Vader was either a 4 lock or blindside. Mean, powerful bastard.

    C3P0 a flyhalf – all the questionable sexuality and ponciness.

  • Comment 77, posted at 24.06.16 15:14:58 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 77) : She was like a sister to me :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 78, posted at 24.06.16 15:34:24 by vanmartin Reply
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  • You guys have just taken geek to a whole new level……for shame

  • Comment 79, posted at 24.06.16 15:40:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 77) : She was a sister to Luke but that didn’t stop her…

  • Comment 80, posted at 24.06.16 18:15:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Bunch of nerds… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 24.06.16 18:39:06 by Ben Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 77) : Well given the man’s abilities I concurr that he would be great at lock…even a bad lineout throw can end up being good.

  • Comment 82, posted at 24.06.16 18:39:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 56) : although I think they’re good players I don’t think they’re the best in the world. But hey that’s the nice things of oppinions we are allowed to have our own.

  • Comment 83, posted at 25.06.16 06:40:34 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 62) : hahaha nice one!!!

  • Comment 84, posted at 25.06.16 06:43:07 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 79) : @Ben (Comment 81) : ja boet the force are strong with them but I dont mind just as long as it’s not the Western Force!!!

  • Comment 85, posted at 25.06.16 06:47:33 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 83) : yess we will probably all have different opinions but one thing we would all agree is the Proteas were kak last night

  • Comment 86, posted at 25.06.16 08:56:34 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • Do NZ play England this year?

  • Comment 87, posted at 25.06.16 10:22:20 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 86) : Par for the course with the Proteas – our wilted flower in desperate need of some rain.

    Thankfully SS shows the 60min. highlights in the morning, so never again will I have to waste that many hours watching yet another SA sports team fail.

    I love 7′s….great respect for time.

  • Comment 88, posted at 25.06.16 11:32:36 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • All Blacks a different class.Israel Dagg,Beauden Barrit,Ben Smith,we have absolutely nothing in this class

  • Comment 89, posted at 25.06.16 11:37:50 by The hound Reply
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  • The thing that makes the AB ‘different is that they always pick on current form and not past reputation.Israel Dagg was dropped for the W.C and had to fight his way back into the team.Savea was dropped last week. and looks like he will be dropped again.
    Then you look at us JPP hasn’t had two good games back to back in years,yet he is always picked on form he had in Jake’s Boks.

  • Comment 90, posted at 25.06.16 11:59:40 by The hound Reply
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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 86) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 88) : Show of solidarity with the UK by our cricket team; pulling a Prexit from the triangular series…

  • Comment 91, posted at 25.06.16 12:17:47 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 90) : But don’t forget my dear Hound, we select class…form might win you 9 test matches, and class might lose those nine matches, but class will shine through when everything is lost. :roll:

    AC can really make name for himself by picking on form, even within the parameters set by the gravy-train.

  • Comment 92, posted at 25.06.16 12:41:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 87) : Ireland twice (Chicago and Dublin), Italy and France

  • Comment 93, posted at 25.06.16 12:50:38 by Baylion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 92) : While AC selected his first squad on players he knew he also picked on form and by the second half this afternoon we might see a Lions spine on the field

    3 Redelinghuys, 5 (19) Mostert, 6 (20) Kriel, 8 Whiteley, 9 de Klerk, 10 Jantjies, 13 Mapoe, 14 Combrinck

  • Comment 94, posted at 25.06.16 12:54:04 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 91) : Sadly, none of us got to vote…seems they took an executive decision – or was the Windies the deciding vote.

  • Comment 95, posted at 25.06.16 12:55:10 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 94) : I truly hope it is a sign of him realising that form trumps class/reputation, and not injury forcing his hand (WW in place of Vermeulen).

  • Comment 96, posted at 25.06.16 12:58:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 96) : I don’t have an issue with injuries forcing a coach’s hand, that’s how Duane got and took his chance when Pierre spies was injured.

    It is up to the players to take their chances when they get it

  • Comment 97, posted at 25.06.16 13:01:05 by Baylion Reply

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  • AC has impressed me so far this series. Not that it has been all champagne and roses and the players must shoulder most of the blame for handling errors, turnovers and penalties conceded.

    Fact is, the uber-conservative rugby everyone expected didn’t materialise. He is giving the players a lot more freedom to play their natural games and while this has cause some problems for combinations to gel, it shows he realises the need to use players’ skills to move the Bok game to a different level.

    He selected players who can play the more expansive game into the squad and within three tests have selected a team who could play the faster game.

    Even his statement that Whiteley will take over as captain should Strauss leave the field shows an openness for change

    All signs of a coach that is well aware of where he wants the game to grow to rather than being stuck in preconceived ideas of “traditional” Bok rugby and prototypes of ideal players.

    He impressed me so far and debunked some of my preconceptions

  • Comment 98, posted at 25.06.16 13:13:02 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 98) : What would you attribute Ackerman’s success as coach to? Is it due to his time spent under Mitchell’s tutelage?

    I would love for saru to replicate that kind of coaching development. If saru successfully developed coaches like Ackerman, our provincial teams would have no choice but to employ them, and thereby SA will be able to successfully play a unified style of rugby….said coaches should be deployed at schools level, then grown to seniors rugby.

  • Comment 99, posted at 25.06.16 13:23:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 99) : Difficult to say. Obviously he learned a lot from JM regarding the style of play and Swys du Bruin adds a lot there. But Ackers and Swys created a very different environment for the players than JM did, much more “safe space” allowing them to play their game without repercussions.

    His rotational policy also worked well, creating a squad where replacements come on at virtually the same level as starting players.

    Another aspect, I think, is that he plays players to their strengths. A good example is Ross Cronje and Faf de Klerk, he starts Ross with Jantjies but when Jantjies was injured he started Faf with Marnitz Boshoff.

    I think he is a peoples person who knows his players well.

    Edit: Not sure how the other unions work but the juniors and seniors practice together Mondays and Tuesdays so that all players know each other and can slot in should they be needed

  • Comment 100, posted at 25.06.16 13:36:12 by Baylion Reply

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