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Super Rugby 2016: Lions v Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 2 Jul 2016 at 16:00
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The Sharks and Lions face off for supremacy in the Africa 2 conference this afternoon.

Kick-off at Ellis Park is at 17h10.

Lions: 15. Andries Coetzee, 14. Ruan Combrinck, 13. Lionel Mapoe, 12. Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 11. Courtnall Skosan, 10. Elton Jantjies, 9. Faf de Klerk, 8. Ruan Ackermann, 7. Warwick Tecklenburg, 6. Jaco Kriel (Captain), 5. Franco Mostert, 4. Andries Ferreira, 3. Julian Redelinghuys, 2. Malcolm Marx, 1. Dylan Smith
Replacements: 16. Akker van der Merwe, 17. Corne Fourie, 18. Jacques van Rooyen, 19. Lourens Erasmus, 20. Cyle Brink, 21. Ross Cronje, 22. Howard Mnisi, 23. Sylvian Mahuza

Sharks: 15. Odwa Ndungane, 14. Sibusiso Sithole 13. JP Pietersen, 12. Paul Jordaan, 11. Lwazi Mvovo, 10. Garth April, 9. Michael Claassens, 8. Phillip Van der Walt, 7. Jean-Luc du Preez, 6. Keegan Daniel, 5. Stephan Lewies, 4. Etienne Oosthuizen, 3. Lourens Adriaanse, 2. Franco Marais, 1. Tendai Mtawarira (Captain)
Replacements: 16. Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17. Thomas du Toit, 18. Coenie Oosthuizen, 19. Ruan Botha, 20. Lubabalo Mtembu, 21. Stefan Ungerer, 22. Rhyno Smith, 23. Heimar Williams



234 Comments

  • I see Rob’s team sheet reflects Esterhuizen’s withdrawal (possibly injured??)…Jordaan at 12, Peterson at 13, Sbu on wing and Heimar on bench…..was looking forward to Esterhuizen’s rib rattling tackles.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.07.16 16:40:27 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • oh no !!! we are in trouble

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.07.16 16:45:33 by John Reply
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  • Why Esterhuizen not playing?

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.07.16 17:08:34 by schrodingers cat Reply
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  • Esterhuizen got a hamstring injury on Thursday training

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.07.16 17:18:03 by Henkb Reply
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  • By the looks of it, Jordan might have played his last game for the Sharks, seems like he has a serious knee injury

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.07.16 17:18:54 by Henkb Reply
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  • Heimar now on at 12 only 7 min into the game

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.07.16 17:21:03 by Henkb Reply
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  • i dont want to watch this

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.07.16 17:22:03 by John Reply

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  • who is back up 10 today ? heimar ?

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.07.16 17:23:14 by John Reply

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  • The backs look like they have no clue on defence. Suppose that can be expected with the centre issue.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.07.16 17:28:21 by Hulk Reply

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  • We look a lot more rusty than the Lions? But our willingness to counter attack is great, to see the intent there makes it more bare able

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.07.16 17:28:56 by Henkb Reply
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  • Sharks maak baie foute… die Bokke het nog nie iets briljants gedoen nie.

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.07.16 17:37:20 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Serious mismatch here.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.07.16 17:39:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We are going to get smashed

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.07.16 17:40:31 by John Reply

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  • Jaco Peyper also being himself as usual, Sharks cannot roll away quickly enough at almost every breakdown, his hand is out for advantage even before it is on the ground

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.07.16 17:40:43 by Henkb Reply
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  • Discipline has been dogshit and the rugby worse

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.07.16 17:41:34 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • At last some advantages to the Sharks

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.07.16 17:42:04 by Henkb Reply
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  • Luckily for us, the Lions are also not all that great tonight, mapoe carrying on with how he played in the green and gold???? Jantjies left his kicking boots at home

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.07.16 17:43:33 by Henkb Reply
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  • This is going to get ugly.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.07.16 17:44:31 by Ben Reply
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  • Mvovo and the chip kick in the corner? Same one he missed in the test match

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.07.16 17:44:37 by Henkb Reply
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  • Lions player was ahead of the kicker there, but really poor from the back three there.

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.07.16 17:44:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Can someone plz teach Mvovo how to catch a ball

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.07.16 17:45:03 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • I’m having flashbacks to crusaders 2015 :roll:

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.07.16 17:45:30 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • We are in for a huge hiding tonight if we don’t improve quickly

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.07.16 17:45:50 by Henkb Reply
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  • Nog ‘n fout. Nog ‘n drie

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.07.16 17:46:16 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Still have to admire how this Lions team is playing. They may just stand a good chance to win the tournament this year.

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.07.16 17:46:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : At the rate we going now, think it will be worse

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.07.16 17:46:32 by Henkb Reply
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  • Basic skills that can’t be executed. Poor pass from Mvovo!

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.07.16 17:49:15 by Ben Reply
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  • Mvovo and Ndungane cocks up a certain try.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.07.16 17:49:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Kon ten minse 7 gehad het daar

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.07.16 17:49:32 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Great break and gas by mvovo, just a pity ndungane fucks up a gift try, all he had to do was catch the pass from mvovo

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.07.16 17:49:42 by Henkb Reply
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  • Sharks getting monstered in all departments

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.07.16 17:50:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 30) : Kak pass by Mvovo

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.07.16 17:50:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 30) : Maybe Mvovo should try to not pass the ball 2 meters behind his support runner.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.07.16 17:51:37 by Ben Reply
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  • Well, seeing as our team won’t harden up, we as fans will have to harden up today….this is decidedly ugly.

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.07.16 17:51:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Sharks cannot live with the pace of this Lions team. Ref should stop the game at half time.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.07.16 17:53:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ok.. daai drie is Jaco sn. Hyt omtrent drie penalties gemis daar

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.07.16 17:53:27 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • I’ll give it to the Lions, they are really playing a great balanced game, and they might even have a chance to go top of overall log

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.07.16 17:53:59 by Henkb Reply
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  • This Sharks side is a fucking embarrassment

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.07.16 17:54:23 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I would so love to put my boot up Joel Stranskys arse

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.07.16 17:54:29 by The hound Reply
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  • Thank fuck its half time

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.07.16 17:54:56 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Will the real Sharks seniors please stand up…please stand up…please stand up

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.07.16 17:55:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 37) : weet nie so mooi nie. Ons maak baie foute. 3 van daai driee was van ons eie foute af

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.07.16 17:56:17 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Sharks really need to go back and invest in the basics of rugby. Problem is all our good players are deserting in droves. We are really in deep deep kak.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.07.16 17:56:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 43) : Not only us. Rugby in SA is in deep kak.

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.07.16 17:58:43 by Ben Reply
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  • I don’t think we have the players to mount a comeback here…seems our team spent the past 4 weeks soaking up every inch or rust offered on the kzn coast.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.07.16 17:59:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Apparently the Lions cannot be guilty of offside, obstruction runners, guy in front of the ball, knock on, you name it. Screw the Lions. Waiting for some other team to knock them out of the competition

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.07.16 17:59:39 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 46) : Jealousy makes you nasty. :twisted:

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.07.16 18:01:06 by Ben Reply
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  • Anyone who said Odwa is still fine for this level, I’m sorry. Theres just no way. Come on, prove me wrong? We need speed, skill and determination at 15. Not ‘solid play’ . Come on guys… Lets admit it. Play RS. I’m not blaming him, not at all, I’m just saying. We are being put to bed, no reason not to try out our prospects.

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.07.16 18:01:16 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 44) : At least the Lions are showing a glimmer of hope with good skills and clever play. AC may as well select the Lions plus PSDT for the Boks, Lions coaches as assistants and he will do better than the current sorry lot.

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.07.16 18:01:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • The Lions are superior in every single aspect of the game. The only stats we’re leading are tackles made, tackles missed and kicks. No wonder the score is what it is.

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.07.16 18:02:20 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 48) : RS?

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.07.16 18:02:48 by Ben Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : Agreed.

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.07.16 18:03:22 by Ben Reply
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  • Thank you management for not doing your work and having back up centres !!! idiots JP cant play 13 !!!!!!! heimar is useless on defence and garth is shellshocked !!!

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.07.16 18:05:06 by John Reply

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  • If ruhan Jansen Van Rensburg is not a bok after this game then I don’t know,he is a great 12-quick,skillfull ,big and physical

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.07.16 18:05:10 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 51) : Rhyno Smit

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.07.16 18:06:01 by Henkb Reply
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  • Time to lower our standards – will be satisfied if the Sharks lose by less than 60. ;)

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.07.16 18:06:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Mnisi has a lot of work to do if he wants to get the 12 shirt back

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.07.16 18:06:23 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @Ben, I admit it’s Schadenfraude but I will pop some bubbly when the Lions get creamed by someone else

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.07.16 18:06:40 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 54) : You mean like Esterhuizen, but with brains?

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.07.16 18:06:51 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 56) : :lol:

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.07.16 18:07:29 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 42) : Exactly, they scoring of our mistakes and creating opportunities, that is whats making them so balanced currently

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.07.16 18:07:36 by Henkb Reply
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  • April is having to play 10 and 15 in this game. Stupid kick from him there and then he doesn’t even try to put his players onside.

  • Comment 62, posted at 02.07.16 18:09:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Holy fuck this is pathetic! Fuck this I’m not sitting through this. Enjoy it those of you who can.

  • Comment 63, posted at 02.07.16 18:10:24 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Looks as if April has no confidence in controlling the back line when he gets the ball, not the same guy as before the break

  • Comment 64, posted at 02.07.16 18:10:29 by Henkb Reply
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  • Time to stop watching this crap and get myself a team in the Top14

  • Comment 65, posted at 02.07.16 18:10:36 by John Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 59) : lol exactly,I don’t think esterhuizen is so unintelligent he just overuses his size advantage plus Esterhuizen is a bit bigger than Ruan.still think if AE starts offloading he’ll be great player

  • Comment 66, posted at 02.07.16 18:10:42 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • At least the sideline feels like playing today…
    Sharks’ best defender.

  • Comment 67, posted at 02.07.16 18:12:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @John (Comment 65) : Most of the Sharks will be playing there anyway.

  • Comment 68, posted at 02.07.16 18:12:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sharks attack is as dynamic as treacle.

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.07.16 18:13:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Something is seriously wrong in our camp, there seems to be something lacking in our spirits

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.07.16 18:13:36 by Henkb Reply
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  • we need a fullback !!! bring on Smith

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.07.16 18:14:23 by John Reply

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  • Sharks pass like netball players.

  • Comment 72, posted at 02.07.16 18:15:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • For anyone wondering, the score is currently Lions 30-0 Sharks, and mind you Jantjies missed 4 conversions so far

  • Comment 73, posted at 02.07.16 18:16:22 by Henkb Reply
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  • Can some one tell me how Peyper is NOT a lions fan boy?

  • Comment 74, posted at 02.07.16 18:16:46 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • JP you idiot

  • Comment 75, posted at 02.07.16 18:17:18 by John Reply

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  • The Sharks are also Lions fans

  • Comment 76, posted at 02.07.16 18:18:03 by John Reply

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 74) : You’re starting to sound silly. Peyper is the best ref that SA has to offer in my opinion.

  • Comment 77, posted at 02.07.16 18:18:20 by Ben Reply
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  • Sithole nails Mapoe and saves a certain try.

  • Comment 78, posted at 02.07.16 18:18:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sithole you beauty, totally smashed mapoe

  • Comment 79, posted at 02.07.16 18:18:50 by Henkb Reply
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  • Got nailed haha

  • Comment 80, posted at 02.07.16 18:19:10 by John Reply

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  • Rhyno Smit on the field ld now ndungane off

  • Comment 81, posted at 02.07.16 18:19:32 by Henkb Reply
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  • Pyper is kak today… fullstop

  • Comment 82, posted at 02.07.16 18:21:13 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 82) : Just today???? I remember a couple of other times also

  • Comment 83, posted at 02.07.16 18:22:07 by Henkb Reply
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  • Smit missing his 1st SR tackle and combrinck almost in for another score

  • Comment 84, posted at 02.07.16 18:23:13 by Henkb Reply
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  • Sharks doing pretty well keeping the Lions scoreless for the past 10 minutes.

  • Comment 85, posted at 02.07.16 18:25:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Celebrating 15mins of no-tries by the Lions…. #satisfaction

  • Comment 86, posted at 02.07.16 18:25:38 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Lions pack is destroying ours.

  • Comment 87, posted at 02.07.16 18:26:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Celebration over.

  • Comment 88, posted at 02.07.16 18:28:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • JP will be gone for next week. Silly tackle there.

  • Comment 89, posted at 02.07.16 18:29:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Daai was die eerste drie wat die Bokke gebou en create het.

  • Comment 90, posted at 02.07.16 18:30:28 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • Sithole has been our best back tonight

  • Comment 91, posted at 02.07.16 18:33:12 by Henkb Reply
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  • That try is thomas du toits … great right shoulder

  • Comment 92, posted at 02.07.16 18:33:35 by byron Reply

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  • Celebrations….Sharks now winning by minus 32

  • Comment 93, posted at 02.07.16 18:33:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Another forward missed by pyper

  • Comment 94, posted at 02.07.16 18:35:39 by byron Reply

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  • Faf is the Energizer Bunny reincarnated.

  • Comment 95, posted at 02.07.16 18:36:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Now we trying to play

  • Comment 96, posted at 02.07.16 18:37:46 by Henkb Reply
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  • How many penalties have gone the way of the Sharks tonight?

  • Comment 97, posted at 02.07.16 18:38:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Lewies is the only Sharks forward that can hold his head high.

  • Comment 98, posted at 02.07.16 18:38:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 97) : Jaco Peyper had a predetermined amount before the game which is 3,and we have received them already

  • Comment 99, posted at 02.07.16 18:39:25 by Henkb Reply
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  • Chilly scores another consolation try.

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  • …and now winning by -27 points :)

  • Comment 101, posted at 02.07.16 18:40:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • We are out playing the Lions now in the last 5 minutes, why only now, why why why why

  • Comment 102, posted at 02.07.16 18:40:42 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 102) : Lions are saving themselves for next week.

  • Comment 103, posted at 02.07.16 18:41:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • See what happens when we apply pressure, Lions also only human and making mistakes, but we should have had them here early in the game

  • Comment 104, posted at 02.07.16 18:42:12 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 102) : MMA-joe told them that he’ll be seeing them in the octagon after the game ;)

  • Comment 105, posted at 02.07.16 18:42:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Chilli se drie was ook goed gebou en gewerk voor. Kry dit nie net op ‘n skinkbord soos ons dit weg gee nie

  • Comment 106, posted at 02.07.16 18:42:35 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 103) : Very true, but we have also been a bit better the last couple of minutes

  • Comment 107, posted at 02.07.16 18:42:56 by Henkb Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 105) : Rather them than me

  • Comment 108, posted at 02.07.16 18:43:38 by Henkb Reply
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  • Even Heimar is now having an impact,

  • Comment 109, posted at 02.07.16 18:44:25 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 104) : Seems the Sharks bought into the hype surrounding the Lions…lost the game in their minds during the week already.

  • Comment 110, posted at 02.07.16 18:44:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 110) : Think so, and they have now when it is to late realized that we could have actually done have we played like this from the start

  • Comment 111, posted at 02.07.16 18:45:49 by Henkb Reply
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  • Lewies playing out of his skin tonight, wants his bok spot back

  • Comment 112, posted at 02.07.16 18:46:30 by Henkb Reply
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  • Lions can do no wrong at the breakdown according to piper.

  • Comment 113, posted at 02.07.16 18:46:30 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Lions have woken up again after a bit of a slumber.

  • Comment 114, posted at 02.07.16 18:46:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Fok jou jaco peyper. Daai moes penalty gewees het doos!!!

  • Comment 115, posted at 02.07.16 18:46:48 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • They dont even have to roll away

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 113) : He has been really one sided tonight, but in general is like that when we playing

  • Comment 117, posted at 02.07.16 18:47:36 by Henkb Reply
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  • Peyper is an lions fan boy, the next ref won’t be so star struck

  • Comment 118, posted at 02.07.16 18:47:52 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 117) : Sharks were up against it to start with, but when the ref allows the opposition to do as they please at the breakdown, he kills any hope of a contest.

  • Comment 119, posted at 02.07.16 18:50:27 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Sharks defence makes Cronje look like a star flyhalve.

  • Comment 120, posted at 02.07.16 18:51:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • The lions were never allowed to lose and the Sharks didn’t get momentum until too late in the game to present the appearance of even-ish penalty count

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  • If Coenie caries on with this scruming he wil be in bok team

  • Comment 122, posted at 02.07.16 18:51:55 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • Chillie, and Terra should start next week

  • Comment 123, posted at 02.07.16 18:52:31 by Henkb Reply
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  • Peyper is worse than Joubert, and that’s saying something

  • Comment 124, posted at 02.07.16 18:53:04 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Well deserved victory for the Lions. Well done.

  • Comment 125, posted at 02.07.16 18:53:05 by Ben Reply
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  • Laaste een van die kant af gesteel. Penalty Jaco? Dink jy het dalk ‘n geldjie daar in die sak gekry

  • Comment 126, posted at 02.07.16 18:53:17 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 120) : we were missing out top defenders in midfield,especially Esterhuizen he never lets anyone get over the Advantages line(except if they beat him for pace)

  • Comment 127, posted at 02.07.16 18:55:16 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • Second half way better, I would almost go so far as to say we out played the Lions and Peyper, if we had this oomph and willingness in the 1st half it would have been something else, the Lions were good, not that I want to sound sour but they can also thank Peyper a lot

  • Comment 128, posted at 02.07.16 18:55:30 by Henkb Reply
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  • Lions were good and we were astonishingly horrible. Peyper motm. 9 forward passes missed, scrums should have been free penalties to us every time and nice that he blows us for offsides but their defensive line can be 2 metres in front. Chalk it up to a bad day at the office, here’s to hoping the jaguares beat the bulls

  • Comment 129, posted at 02.07.16 18:55:52 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks were poor, Lions were on fire – but Peyper was the star of the show.

  • Comment 130, posted at 02.07.16 18:56:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 127) : Which Francois Brummer managed to do quite easily. :twisted:

  • Comment 131, posted at 02.07.16 18:56:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 126) : As xerox jou hoof borg is moet jy seker bietjie “peyper” byvoeg om die faks te stuur…….

  • Comment 132, posted at 02.07.16 18:56:58 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Eerste 3 driee was purely uit foute uit. Balle wat ons nie gevang het nie. Mvovo, Claasens, Ndungane.

    4de drie het Jaco 2 strafskoppe gemis wat die Bokke nie rol of van die kant af in kom nie.

    5de drie was ‘n goeie drie van die Bokke. Goed gebou en afgerond.

    Kon baie beter gewees het as jy daai eerste 3 driee weg vat….

  • Comment 133, posted at 02.07.16 18:57:20 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • I can’t believe people are blaming Peyper for the Sharks shambles tonight. He missed a lot but not nearly as many high balls and tackles as the Sharks themselves.

  • Comment 134, posted at 02.07.16 18:58:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 133) : Bal het vir hulle gehop en ja hulle was die beter span maar nie 27 punte beter nie. Dalk 7, die res was alles pure peyper. Gaan kyk weer die highlanders wedstryd. Die oomblik wat die leeus nie mag onkant speel of die bal vertraag op die grond, kom hulle wiele af

  • Comment 135, posted at 02.07.16 18:59:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 132) : Kak skerp, moes my vrou wys, sy werk vir xerox

  • Comment 136, posted at 02.07.16 19:00:54 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 134) : Everyone is in agreement that we were woeful, just stating that the nr 1 SA team do not need the refs also. The lions were the better team, we looked even worse due to bad reffing. We never would have won this one.

  • Comment 137, posted at 02.07.16 19:01:34 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 136) : Kon sy nie “suzie” gespeel het en vir hulle brooklax ingejaag het voor die game nie

  • Comment 138, posted at 02.07.16 19:02:53 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 134) : I guess it was infuriating when the Sharks finally strung phases together, and got some forward momentum, the the Lions were allowed free reign at the breakdown.

    Maybe it’s an easy excuse, but on the fly it seemed like the Lions got away with many illegal tactics at the breakdown.

    Guess the Sharks need to learn how to govern their own breakdown….but difficult when your up against a team that does everything at speed – including infringing.

  • Comment 139, posted at 02.07.16 19:04:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Peyper doesn’t like the Sharks, we all know that. He never blows our way, but the lions were awesome tonight and we weren’t. We wouldn’t have won that even if John Smit himself was refereeing

  • Comment 140, posted at 02.07.16 19:05:38 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 140) : Do we ever win these fixtures in Jo’burg….it’s been a fair few years that we’ve struck out up there.

    Oh well, roll on next week.

  • Comment 141, posted at 02.07.16 19:07:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 139) : Lions and Kiwi teams get away with a lot because they do play the game at such a fast pace. Refs just can’t keep up.

  • Comment 142, posted at 02.07.16 19:08:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 142) : If we can see it why can the coaching staff not. There were about 7 minutes collectively tonight that if had played with that pace and handling, we would be world beaters. Just seems that the Durban way of sitback and wait to react is killing the beautiful way the sharks of old used to play

  • Comment 143, posted at 02.07.16 19:13:53 by jdolivier Reply

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  • The best part about watching the match live was being able to shout at Peyper. Even though he could not hear me,better than shouting at the tv!

  • Comment 144, posted at 02.07.16 19:27:43 by HeinF Reply

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  • Great game by April he definitely just as good as Lambie. Everyone who said he was a like fir like replacement after just 2 good games was right….

  • Comment 145, posted at 02.07.16 20:12:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Yea maybe Jaco was not as good as she might have been, but focusing on him only shifts the blame away from the real problem and that problem was us!!! We didn’t deserve this one. We didn’t play like a team who wanted to won this one. We played like a team who lost the game before the game even started…

    Lions, sad to admit, you were the better team of the day. Congratulations…

    Now our attention should turn towards the Jaguares – Please give us some hope

  • Comment 146, posted at 02.07.16 20:13:36 by BluffShark Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 145) : Wonder what game you watch?

  • Comment 147, posted at 02.07.16 20:15:33 by BluffShark Reply

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  • Kings only behind by 2 points at half time: #GiveBackOurPlayers

  • Comment 148, posted at 02.07.16 20:15:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 129) : Jaguares … yea

  • Comment 149, posted at 02.07.16 20:16:13 by BluffShark Reply

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  • Maybe, our current squad that was on the field tonight is just not good enough, the guys are good, but did anyone ask the question if they are good enough? Being good and being great is two different things, maybe our guys and coaching staff is just good and not great, we do have some guys that are exceptional, but not all of them, are we placing to much faith in them, do we want more than what they can offer, 2/3 guys cannot convert a whole team to play out of their skins week in and week out, maybe we must just except it that our guys are not exceptional enough for this comp

  • Comment 150, posted at 02.07.16 20:44:16 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 150) : You mean we need to lower our standards/expectations?

    I believe those being paid thousands every year for the honour of representing our team, need to raise their standards.

    We’ve got the players – centre combo being injured didn’t help us at all, and a lot of the defensive issues was probably caused by this…but let’s not fool ourselves, this team should produce better.

  • Comment 151, posted at 02.07.16 20:52:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • On the positive side….our scrum improved after our front row left but even more when Botha came on….he looked good to me. JPP not a centre….Odwa looked old and slow…urggghhh that was roff

  • Comment 152, posted at 02.07.16 20:56:16 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 151) : No I agree, if you bring back the injured guys, lambie, esterhuizen, Jordaan, le Roux ext, we are on paper one of the best teams in the comp, and we should be able to give most teams a really tough time and win almost all of the games, but this team that was playing tonight in my books just doesn’t have the fire power to do this, we did have a couple of guys that stood up but not enough, this my question is the team not good enough that played tonight / do we need some better coaching staff / do we have the need for a better conditioning program coach, and I think that there is guys that played tonight that feel they are giving the jersey an honor by wearing it, instead of feeling the honor of wearing the jersey

  • Comment 153, posted at 02.07.16 21:00:01 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 153) : April and Mvovo has a serious June month hangover….confidence shot – they just need their heads sorted and they’ll be golden.

    Odwa for all the good he has done, he needs a backroom/coaching/recruitment job – he carries weight with the guys, but on the field he’s just not sharp enough anymore.

    Marais should be replaced by Chili…the props, who knows what’s up there, very inconsistent.

    Ruan looked very good also thought Keegan was industrious and should have been captain.

    All in all, rust and disruptions did us no favours.

  • Comment 154, posted at 02.07.16 21:11:01 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 154) : No it did us no favours, you could see the guys struggling, my biggest concern that I have is that some of these guys are the back up guys for the injured players, and is actually supposed to push the regular starting guys for starting positions, but when we loose our regular guys it seems as though the game and team is falling apart, I agree about Keegan being captain, I’m seriously starting to doubt beast as a captain, a senior player with influence yes, but maybe not a captain, odders yes must get a back room coaching job or advisory role, he had some soldi years at the union but I’m afraid his time is up, I must say that we had glimpses tonight, but my whole argument comes from the guys that came up as replacement for the injured / subs during the game, not sure what to make of them/ if I have the belief in them that they can replace the regular guys, only sub that made a big difference was chillie and I think he must become our starting hooker

  • Comment 155, posted at 02.07.16 21:22:14 by Henkb Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 154) : Think Mjekevu and Am is needed back in the team, lucky they are just on loan, JPP had a regular game of late, which is not great, Sithole played with some guts and hunger tonight, Heimar was actually nowhere to be found bar 5 minute of game time when we started to push again, watching Mjekevu and AM tonight against the highlanders they are in my opinion beter replacements than the guys we kept

  • Comment 156, posted at 02.07.16 21:29:19 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Henkb (Comment 155) : This is what the purpose of the Sharks XV team is supposed to be: ensuring an entire squad of 45+ players are playing the same game plan, and can make the transition between the two teams without disruption….don’t think that’s the case.

    Either way though, Gold was forced to shift guys out of position due to the two centres going down just before, and during the game.

    Odwa at 15 was the only selection error…though I understand Gold’s thinking in not throwing Smith in the deep end – might as well have thrown the dice, we got hammered either way.

  • Comment 157, posted at 02.07.16 21:37:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 157) : Sharks have serious headache at 12-13. Esterhuizen can break, Jordaan on his way and JPP also on his way (not a 13 in my opinion).

    Am should be heavily invested in, and if Heimar is to be backup 12, he needs more game time from the bench for the SR side.

  • Comment 158, posted at 02.07.16 21:44:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 157) : Very true spoken words, though it seems like there is no cohesion between the Sharks and the Sharks XV, I’m with you that we have serious issues on 12 and 13,the whole seasons we were asking the question on here what would happen it AE goes down, tonight we had both AE and PJ down, and we did not really have any back up for them, in my opinion Sithole would have been better at 13 than JPP, I can also understand the selection of odders at 15,but did we have any thing to loose from tonight’s game? We only stood to gain if we won, and might as well through the young guys on and see what they can do, I would have also had Bosch on the bench even if he only got 20 minutes or so, but we need our guys back from the kings

  • Comment 159, posted at 02.07.16 22:02:46 by Henkb Reply
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  • Rough game

    not overly impressed by smith

    so much hype, i would have rather played eksteen

  • Comment 160, posted at 02.07.16 23:14:37 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 159) : what a waste of money flying in from PE for this game

  • Comment 161, posted at 02.07.16 23:19:43 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 161) : damn. what a disaster of 30 mins. hopefully no more such crap and errors

  • Comment 162, posted at 02.07.16 23:50:58 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 161) : I believe you, I’m sitting here also, although in front of the TV, but I have this strange feeling as if I’m not mad because of the loss, just heavily disappointed and that I have the negative feeling towards the team and management, this is not what we are used to from these guys, our replacement players have always been very high class, and they normally had huge impact but tonight they were just bland, especially the guys that we know and what they can bring, but at least there was a couple of guys that did try with all they had, just a pity it was not the whole team, I hope you also had other plans in Jozi and did not spend all the money just to watch this performance

  • Comment 163, posted at 02.07.16 23:55:09 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 162) : At least the jaguars are helping us so far a bit

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  • just love it, the Jaguares gave us some hope and rescue what would have been a pathetic weekend. Wonder if they just might surprise all of us and beat the Lions on the 16th in Argentina….

    At least we are 3 point above the zeros and if we just won our two remaining games then we have at least a quarter final. However not sure against who??

  • Comment 165, posted at 03.07.16 01:42:03 by BluffShark Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 157) : ja have to admit that Heimar did not look too interested and I am expecting that he will be on his way soon. JPP snd Odders have been legends but their hart / bodies not in it anymore. From the field our forwards looked poor and slow. We got monstered at ruck time and no forward momentum which fit the Lions script.

    Everything the Lions touched turned to gold and they are a supremely confident team. Great play to be so clinical.

  • Comment 166, posted at 03.07.16 07:13:20 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 163) : Was a nice compromise on paper – I get to take family to Rugby but have to attend Disney on Ice today

  • Comment 167, posted at 03.07.16 07:32:14 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Pool Champion, Sharksworld – U20 Champs16

    Do I get another trophy for the above :grin:

  • Comment 168, posted at 03.07.16 07:50:04 by JarsonX Reply
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  • We simply got smashed by a far superior side. They have been coached to play new age rugby, there loose forwards are light, mobile and quick, Mostert is a 108kg lock, which is also light, it shows in his work rate. The Sharks, as with all the other SA teams, are playing outdated rugby. The Lions are showing us the way forward, much like the All Blacks have been doing for years. There is however hope, whoever watched the Sharks cv side would have seen 4/5 players who are the future of Sharks rugby. Just watch the u21 side this year, they will be dynamite.

  • Comment 169, posted at 03.07.16 08:29:22 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 169) : the All blacks don’t have small loose forwards ,maybe Sam cane is small but Kiano and Reid are definitely not light.Its not about being big or small it’s about power and explosiveness.The Wallabies have got a small loose trio and they got dominated by England.Its all about explosiveness. And I think we lost because of the pace at which the lions played if the boks can play at that pace we will be unstoppable.

  • Comment 170, posted at 03.07.16 11:35:34 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @Henkb (Comment 159) : PJ is already going overseas and AE will be going soon I’m sure ,those French clubs love big centres,what do we do then ?

  • Comment 171, posted at 03.07.16 11:43:54 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @BluffShark (Comment 147) : Sarcasm? Talking about playing who were moaning about lambie getting the spot then comparing April to a man of many campaigns and superior ability.

  • Comment 172, posted at 03.07.16 14:59:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 172) : People moaning not player. ..

  • Comment 173, posted at 03.07.16 16:32:43 by coolfusion Reply

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  • No hard feelings against the Lions though, they did their job. We didn’t.

  • Comment 174, posted at 03.07.16 16:33:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 169) : yep i agree, but if the league ended today we would play the lions in jozi in the quarters, and with lambie, willie, AE and the best possible thing

    hopefully lions get some more injuries in that final game in ARG or they rest players and it back fires

  • Comment 175, posted at 03.07.16 16:35:45 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • My biggest concern of this match was that it wasn’t even a contest, the result was pretty much decided after 20mins. The previous one against them we couldn’t even score a try, what is going on? To win this competition you have to be more consistent. I get that we have a lot of starters injured/suspended, but that isn’t an excuse. We should at least be competitive for 80 minutes, we only realized we can play in the last 5-10mins. Very sad about this result. It’s humiliating.

  • Comment 176, posted at 03.07.16 17:19:51 by Quintin Reply

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  • Recovered from that shell shocking yesterday,we were fucked before we even went onto the field.
    Our players arrived for a hiding,our fans arrived for a hiding and we all bought into it until a moment in the second half when we changed the front row knocked the Lions scrum back and scored some of the best trys in the competition this year.
    Botha,Chilli and Coenie were just so good that one has to question how Gold left them out of the starting line up.
    Our problems are off the field not on it,how can we come back from a five week lay off with so many injuries,that is unacceptable.We lost more of our big players in the layoff than in the tour from hell.Something big is wrong with this team. in the scrums
    Beast is a shit captain,and he is becoming an embarrassment,maybe time for him to join Whahl Bartmanns security company.
    Odwa time to go join the coaching staff ,hell if Stick can make it to the Boks backline coach,Oddie could coach the entire team.
    Sit hole was brilliant,but the biggest disappointment for me was Paul Jordan eagerness to get off the field as quick as he could..
    But above all its time Gold swung his hook,he is a loser and any team he coaches will never be any more than mediocre.

  • Comment 177, posted at 03.07.16 18:52:17 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 177) : I’m looking forward to seeing what Rob Du Preez brings during CC as head coach – I would love for Small to rejoin him, even if it’s only because Small embodies the “harregat” attitude the Sharks need to show on-field.

    Sharks need their attitude back, saw glimpses of this when Claasens finally told Peyper how to do his job.

    We went to Jo’burg hoping the Lions would give us permission to play some rugby, as you said, we had the game lost on the plane to Jo’burg already.

    Sagtegat word harregat!

  • Comment 178, posted at 03.07.16 19:52:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 178) : What got me was that this was the team that went to N.Z. back to Durban and onto Argentina and won in successive weeks,nobody gave us a chance and we got better and better.WE then get 5 weeks off to prepare for a game in JHB 7 hour car journey up the road,we arrive with a severely depleted team and roll over on our backs and accept a rogering without a whimper.
    I have never seen such a meek and mild Sharks team.our front row with two experienced Bok props in Beast and Adriaanse got their heads shoved up their arseholes by a front row with two 21 year olds. It was almost as if that team took the field in a major case of depression..Hell I’ve seen the Kings who hadn’t been paid in six months hit the park with a better attitude.

  • Comment 179, posted at 03.07.16 20:56:08 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 179) : So the big question: what’s been happening at the tank during the July break?

  • Comment 180, posted at 03.07.16 21:20:24 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 180) : *June break

  • Comment 181, posted at 03.07.16 21:20:52 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 180) : Fuck knows but it certainly wasn’t tiddlywinks,i found Esterhuizens late withdrawal and Jordan’s hasty retreat very fishy,Peterson looked as happy as a pig in shit playing tens in Mauritius then he’s on available,so is Deysel,Cooper,all the guys who should have been in the forefront of the battle at Ellis Park earning their money,not getting injured in a second rate tournament in the Indian Ocean.
    Shit management

  • Comment 182, posted at 03.07.16 21:33:03 by The hound Reply
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  • Eish,so there we have it,the Sharks are at best a good CC team,what you saw on TV was not close to events on the field,despite the smoke blowing above quite simply they were blown off the field

  • Comment 183, posted at 03.07.16 22:55:48 by benji Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 48) : I fully agree he needs to hang up those illustrious boots and keep that great reputation intact,time has moved on

  • Comment 184, posted at 03.07.16 22:59:57 by benji Reply
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  • @John (Comment 53) : Heimmar worshippers, really, he was wholly exposed

  • Comment 185, posted at 03.07.16 23:03:30 by benji Reply
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  • Claasen at 9 not on he to old to slow, Ungerer not up to scratch either,

  • Comment 186, posted at 03.07.16 23:08:19 by benji Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 172) : really, give April a chance, what has Bambie done in 7 yrs of SR, when Sharks went to final it was due to French Freddie

  • Comment 187, posted at 03.07.16 23:11:36 by benji Reply
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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 54) : I fully agree, AE has as much penatrayive poeer as wet toilet paper with skill to match, runs into contact to upright, tries to bully opposition but NZ teams drop him on the spot ot knock him backwards,nah

  • Comment 188, posted at 03.07.16 23:18:01 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 187) : Do you actually like anyone in the Sharks team or are you another one of the fair weather Lions supporters who have crawled out of the woodwork in the past three months.Funny I never used to see any of them when I used to go to Ellis Park and the only one watching was Jimmy Abott who used to take up four seats.

  • Comment 189, posted at 03.07.16 23:18:18 by The hound Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 185) : Heimar worshipper ? where did you get this from ?

  • Comment 190, posted at 04.07.16 06:56:04 by John Reply

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  • So who will be our centres now ? please not JP at # 13 he cannot play there , home to Cheetahs and sunwolves next maybe we should throw a new centre pair in ? 13 Neil Maritz, 12 Marius Louw ?

  • Comment 191, posted at 04.07.16 06:58:43 by John Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 179) : As things stand now, would we not play Lions in JHB in the playoffs?

    Two games to get some kind of plan going as there is enough talent and ability to beat the Lions. Please please manage the guys to get the two wins and have key players fit.

    Adding Lambie, Willie, AE, Botha, Chillie and Dan or Terra to this weekend’s team will improve decision making, grunt and D big time. Has Coenie found his mojo?

    Our forwards have to front up as they were the biggest dissapointment along with lack of intensity the first 40. The Lions pounced on our mistakes and Toilet’s allowances as champion teams should do but therein lies our opportunity as this was a much worse performance than the one in Dbn as in that game the Lions were supreme and were not helped by poor poor play. Yes pressure adds to mistakes but no excuses for first two tries and Mvovo/Odders amateur hash.

  • Comment 192, posted at 04.07.16 07:01:59 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Well, that sucked. The lions played well and peyper let them get away with murder at the breakdown. They quickly realised this and got quick ball by basically just diving over and sealing off the whole game. We weren’t allowed to go near the ball on the ground while they could basically do as they pleased including playing ball on the ground and entering from the sides. We really did not play well. Losing our centers didn’t help, and I hope Lambie is going to be fit for next week.

  • Comment 193, posted at 04.07.16 07:37:22 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 192) : Actually I think Toilet is too nice a name for him,Shit Peyper,or Bog Roll

  • Comment 194, posted at 04.07.16 08:33:33 by The hound Reply
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  • That performance from the Sharks on Saturday was shocking. Not fire, commitment and just a total lack of interest. Lions were fired up and the Sharks honestly looked scared from the moment they ran out. From 1-15 in the starting lineup it was the most pathetic and sometimes idiotic display that i hope they all lose their match fees for that game. The only thing that made me not throw my beer at the tv (besides my wife) was the impact of our tight 5 in the 2nd half. DuToit, Chilliboy, Coenie, Botha,Lewis actually brought some grunt to the game and we actually looked half decent…but then Claasens and the backline got involved and it turned to poo. Very disappointed. Cant see us beating the Cheetahs or the Sunwolves to be honest

  • Comment 195, posted at 04.07.16 08:37:45 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @John (Comment 191) : Neil was brilliant against the Leopards but has not been offered a Contract, absolute disgrace!! I was really hoping he would get a chance in the next game, but I doubt it

  • Comment 196, posted at 04.07.16 08:54:01 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • I wonder what’s the chances of the Sharks luring Francois Venter over from the tsietas? We’re pretty much doomed at 13.

    Is there anything other than Estrehuizen looking to step up at 12?

    It’s worrying when the supposed DoR decides to play the only centre combo into the ground, without finding and testing guys in-case one or (low and behold) both get injured – in the same game!

  • Comment 197, posted at 04.07.16 09:14:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 187) : What are you puffing on ? You ask what has Lambie done for us the last 7 years? I hope that is a joke, and even if so it’s a fucking bad one to be honest.

    @SheldonK (Comment 195) : Agreed about the tight 5, just can’t stand our coach not making changes when he sees there are a number of guys just hanging around on the field, not doing their damned jobs.
    I get that he might not have plucked everyone of after 20mins, but he might as well have, we were out of it by then.
    A whole lot of ‘old timers’ who’s either not up to SR level anymore or who, sadly, just looks disinterested.

  • Comment 198, posted at 04.07.16 09:19:30 by Quintin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 197) : And most of us on here has been calling for at least Sithole to have a go on outside and one of the XV players to be given game time. Coaches were naive and ignorant to think we can play the whole season, including play-offs(if we even make it) with only 2 centers that has game time.

  • Comment 199, posted at 04.07.16 09:22:16 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 199) : Sithole is not the answer.

  • Comment 200, posted at 04.07.16 09:25:22 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 197) : SA coaches (apart from Ackerman) only rotate when injuries force their hands.

  • Comment 201, posted at 04.07.16 09:29:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 199) : Poor Heimar went from being used at 10,12 and 13 for the XV – and zero game time in SR, to having to run the defensive line for near 70mins. of the Super Rugby game of the year!

    I’m afraid, on this point alone, Gold has been gravely exposed….I gave him credit when the Sharks did well, but he needs to stand up for what went wrong this past Saturday – and it was mostly caused by the lack of rotation.

  • Comment 202, posted at 04.07.16 09:40:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 196) : with PJ going this might change or is there another 13 in the pipeline?

    We were poor but playoffs are in own hands and the guys will deliver at least that. Regarding our centre stock, Cheetahs have the two I would really like in Venter and Small-Smith with Rob Du Preez and Dan Kriel next choice if we have to look elsewhere. If Andre not fit next week I would go with the following:

    9 Claasens ( cant have another shocker like that)
    10 April (have to play him to get his confidence else we have another Fred Z on our hands)
    11 Mvovo
    12 Lambie (dont like it but with PJ going also not an option and need some experience. AE actually needs break for playoffs in any case if he is fit)
    13 Sithole
    14 Nkosi (if fit else Joubert, JPP needs rest and Odders bench for experience)
    15 Willie (point to prove against old team and rested)

    Heimar, Smith, Ungerer and Odders on bench? I would also be tempted with Bosch in place of Odders. @Quintin (Comment 199) Against the Cheethas and Wolves I believe we need the experience in the forwards and can be more adventurous with backline selection. How much are we missing Am and Mjekevu now???

    Forward thinking please Brainstrust!! Thankfully the Bulls were even worse…

  • Comment 203, posted at 04.07.16 09:42:35 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 201) : I don’t think any other SA coach would have planned to play with only two centres for the entire Super Rugby season….13 we could argue that Gold had JP, but at 12 he failed to plan.

  • Comment 204, posted at 04.07.16 09:44:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 200) : He has all the attributes but seems a confidence player. Lets play him because JPP even less of an answer and his confidence will improve.

    We are in the situation where we can try short term conservative options to make the playoffs but causing medium and longer term issues. To be honest, I don’t think the conservative options will do any better at the moment.

  • Comment 205, posted at 04.07.16 09:46:19 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 204) : unfortunately looks this way

  • Comment 206, posted at 04.07.16 09:47:05 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 203) : I find it curious that Esterhuizen broke down after 4 weeks of rest – any more rest, and he’ll be woeful in the quarter finals – if he’s fit, he needs to play.

    April’s confidence was shot to pieces in his first SA-A game, more game time will cost the Sharks – play him at fullback if Lambie is fit (and if le Roux’s injured).

  • Comment 207, posted at 04.07.16 09:48:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 200) : Neither is JPP. Name one other player from the Sharks you can just throw in there at SR level that will do better? We don’t have any options left, if we had giving him some game time earlier, this wouldn’t be a problem.

  • Comment 208, posted at 04.07.16 09:57:14 by Quintin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 207) : that is probably the safer route but I really believe the next two opponents are the right ones to back him based on their composition and style. He and our defensive system will be tested very differently but we have to back him else we will have many more issues going forward with Garth

  • Comment 209, posted at 04.07.16 09:58:41 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 203) : I hope so, he is very talented and should be offered a contract. The Sharks decision making with letting players go is ridiculous, Whiteley, JL Du Plessis and Rob Du Preez, how do you let these players go, they obviously do not know how to identify talent. Marius Louw is very quick and great on D and to top it off is a Free State boy, so perhaps they can give him a chance at 13. Personally, I would give Maritz a go, but like I said, the Sharks seem content on letting him go.

  • Comment 210, posted at 04.07.16 10:10:34 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Kabouter (Comment 209) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 207) : It does look like he is not a guy who can handle real pressure all too well, but I agree let’s give him a chance at least to see if it is just a temporary problem. Strange how much confidence has to do with certain players ability.

  • Comment 211, posted at 04.07.16 10:11:32 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 210) : sounds promising! at some stage we have to back the guys in system else we will have this issue of doom and gloom when an injury occurs.

    We are playing teams below us on the log so lets have a go. I still think next two games are the right ones to have a go and being conservative not the right route

    @Quintin (Comment 211) : do the Sharks have a mental coach at all? Gibbs and De Villiers are perfect examples of cricketers that are unbeatable when confident but De Villiers playing for Proteas now is either not motivated or down on confidence

  • Comment 212, posted at 04.07.16 10:24:24 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 212) : Is it confidence, or is it BMT. Think about De Villers and Gibbs, both absolute freakish talents. However, on the biggest stage, have either ever delivered?

    Look at P Montgomery, could be very up and down, but, on the biggest stage ( WC 2007 ) he delivers by not missing a kick. I think some players lack the ability to do it when it matters most.

  • Comment 213, posted at 04.07.16 10:50:39 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 213) : BMT is a big issue (Butch as well in that 2007 RWC was sublime) but without any confidence BMT will also suffer and maybe someone here at Sharksworld has some insights into the psychological aspects of if and how they are related — way above my knowledge to comment, but something mentally is off….

  • Comment 214, posted at 04.07.16 11:16:11 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Lambie @ 10 , heimar sorry if you not good enough then select next in line Marius Louw I guess , as I said before skip this out of position crap and play the sharks xv centre pair

  • Comment 215, posted at 04.07.16 11:46:06 by John Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 189) : no mate im just sick sick and tired of being sick and tired at what has happened to my once mighty and feared Sharks,its a bloody disgrace,where in the past would the Sharks have even blinked at the Lions and most supporters where Sharks,eish

  • Comment 216, posted at 04.07.16 12:06:36 by benji Reply
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  • At Ellis Park

  • Comment 217, posted at 04.07.16 12:07:44 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 216) : Times do change unfortunately. The Sharks do not have the superstar team of a few years ago. The Lions also dont have the poor team of a few years ago. They have a good side like they used to when they were still Transvaal and the Sharks/Natal were pretty much as good as we are now. The wheel does turn…

  • Comment 218, posted at 04.07.16 12:21:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 154) : KD for captain, eish, the nonsense knows no end here, KD was wholly exposed for the has been he now is

  • Comment 219, posted at 04.07.16 12:22:52 by benji Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 218) : sad but very true the wheel has turned, but what’s worrying is that the Sharks are seemingly unable to improve.

  • Comment 220, posted at 04.07.16 12:46:18 by JD Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 216) : @SheldonK (Comment 218) : Guys, just trust me on this, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Like I said, watch the u21 side dominate this year. The Sharks will again have a golden era – the likes of T Du Toit, M Majola, G Geldenhuys, The Twins, J Du Toit, Ayron Schramm, I Radebe, M Louw, C Bosch, Nkosi, M Joubert – you have a number of GREAT PLAYERS there and they are all u21 or below.

    Last years u21 side came very close to a final and beat WP, the side who eventually won the competition. The entire pack was u20 last year. The good times will come again, and some very very special players will emerge

  • Comment 221, posted at 04.07.16 12:55:39 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @benji (Comment 219) : I agree with you, Keegan was very quiet

  • Comment 222, posted at 04.07.16 12:56:09 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 221) : I am hoping the u21 side does well this year…question is how much of the quality start looking elsewhere as they want senior game time. Kids dont seem to have the patience to fight for a place these days.

  • Comment 223, posted at 04.07.16 13:00:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 223) : If we look at going into the CC…its hard not to see them play the likes of DuToit, Chilliboy,Marais, Adriaanse,Chadwick, Schoeman, Botha, Lewies,Oosthuizen, Daniel, Deysel, Van Der Walt,Mthembu, DuPreez x 2 Claasens, April, Ndungane, Esterhuizen, Williams, Sithole…so not many places for youngsters besides DuToit and Dupreez x 2 to get a look in…other than in the back 3 positions really

  • Comment 224, posted at 04.07.16 13:05:36 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 223) : No worries about that. I am in close contact with a few of them and they simply want to bring pride to the Sharks with the aim of winning the u21 CC. The concern you talk about comes next year, where the best players must be picked regardless of the age.

  • Comment 225, posted at 04.07.16 14:11:03 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 225) : Glad to hear it regarding this year. Although i think there could be some unhappiness next year. Very seldom do the old guard get discarded…

  • Comment 226, posted at 04.07.16 14:28:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 221) : problem is most of the supporters (like me) was expecting more improvement to show that the good times was indeed coming!

  • Comment 227, posted at 04.07.16 14:52:40 by JD Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 225) : @SheldonK (Comment 226) : must agree that’s very good news! Think a lot of them will have to step up into Super rugby next year as seemingly a lot of places will be open next year!

  • Comment 228, posted at 04.07.16 14:55:04 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 228) : I think it depends who sticks around in 2017. As i said its not often the old guard just get totally discarded. so looking at 2017: Beast, Chilliboy, Coenie, Botha, Lewies, Van Der Walt, DuPreez,Dupreez, Classens, Lambie, Mvovo, Esterhuizen, Sithole, Ndungane April will all still be around. Together with Keegan Daniel, Jean Deysel, Terra Mthembu, Eitienne Oosthuizen, Chadwick, Schoeman,Marais, Reinach, Williams,Mjekevu, Am…so unlikely to see too many new faces really

  • Comment 229, posted at 04.07.16 15:05:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 228) : I think more of the u21 players should have been playing in this years CC qualifiers. On Friday night, we had 4 u21 players in the starting pack with two more on the bench. In the backs, we had another 4 u21 players. Now although they just beat the Leopards by 3 points, this was a fantastic result, as essentially, it is men playing against boys.

    I hate the state that Sharks rugby is in, but if you look at the bunch they recruited in 2013/2014, we have real quality with 4 players having already played super rugby, T Du Toit, Twins and Hyron. We can’t expect miracles over night, these guys are still learning and growing as men. But if we can keep this side intact, much like the Lions did with their youngsters, we are looking at a great future.

    Essentially, this year, you can put out this side:

    1Du Toit
    2Du Plessis
    3Kramer
    4J Du Toit
    5 H Andrews
    6 JL Du Preez
    7 D Du Preez
    8 A Schramm ( keep on eye on this one )
    9 M Reece Edwards
    10 Radebe
    11 M Cele
    12 Louw
    13 M Joubert
    14 Nkosi
    15 Bosch

    Now believe me when I tell you this, that side will be incredible and could well win the u21 CC. A few of them will certainly be involved in the senior set up, but if we can keep this group together, Sharks rugby is going to pump in the next 2-4 years, mark my words

  • Comment 230, posted at 04.07.16 15:10:54 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 230) : For the sake of the Sharks and their supporters, I really do hope that you are right! I haven’t followed the U21′s that closely, so I can’t give my fair input on what our other prospects are for next couple of years, but as you are stating it, it sounds promising.

  • Comment 231, posted at 04.07.16 16:12:51 by Quintin Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 187) : Lambie has been the only guy you could count on to perform even when the rest of the team was falling apart. You cannot be serious. He has been our biggest contributor.

  • Comment 232, posted at 04.07.16 18:11:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 229) : a couple of backs are leaving at the end of the season so spaces from 13-15 will be available for the youngsters if they can make the step up!

  • Comment 233, posted at 04.07.16 22:59:58 by JD Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 230) : @Quintin (Comment 231) : for sure I hope we can keep most of those players as I’ve seen a bit of most of them (especially the Impi players) and yes there is some serious talent there!
    I would not mind if the Sharks decided to play all these players in the u21 team and really go for the trophy but I know it will not happen and giving some of them game time with the Currie cup team will help them push for a spot in Super rugby 2017.

  • Comment 234, posted at 04.07.16 23:05:27 by JD Reply
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