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Bosch set for Super Rugby debut


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 7 Jul 2016 at 12:35
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Gary Gold has named a very interesting team indeed for Saturday’s Super Rugby clash against the Cheetahs. The surprise inclusion of Andre Esterhuizen will be a talking point, but not as a big a one as the addition of one Curwin Bosch to the list of replacements.

Gold has resisted the temptation to make too many changes after last week’s loss to the Lions. Odwa Ndungane is rested this week, with Rhyno Smith starting for the first time at full back. Last week’s wings, S’bura Stihole and Lwazi Mvovo are retained, with JP Pietersen again running at outside centre. Esterhuizen, who recovered more quickly than expected from his hamstring injury, returns at inside centre, replacing Paul Jordaan who is himself out injured.

Michael Claassens and Garth April are the halfbacks again this week.

Up front, the only change to the starting line up sees Coenie Oosthuizen start at tight head prop in a rotational switch. Lourens Adriaanse drops to the bench, with the forwards otherwise unchanged. Bosch comes in to cover flyhalf and fullback, with Heimar Williams and Stefan Ungerer the other backline replacements.

Sharks: 15 Rhyno Smith, 14 S’bura Sithole, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Garth April, 9 Michael Claassens, 8 Philip van der Walt, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Keegan Daniel, 5 Stephan Leewies, 4 Etienne Oosthuizen, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Tendai Mtawarira (capt)
Subs: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Thomas du Toit, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19 Ruan Botha, 20 Tera Mtembu, 21 Stefan Ungerer, 22 Heimar Williams, 23 Curwin Bosch



60 Comments

  • Great to see Gary taking a leap of faith!

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.07.16 12:37:11 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • This team has the names on paper to play a high tempo and attractive game. Very strong bench. I just wonder what the mindset will be…the talent is there…but can they execute

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.07.16 12:40:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Lekker Bosch! Great for him. Also very glad that faith is kept in Garth. He will not disappoint.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.07.16 12:40:55 by Another Nick Reply

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  • Great to see AE back in the starting line up, just hope that he is 100%, will be very interesting to see Bosch go for a couple of minutes

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.07.16 12:40:59 by Henkb Reply
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  • not happy with esterhuizen would rest him another week

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.07.16 12:41:06 by John Reply

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  • With Esterhuizen and JPP as our centres we should be pretty well organised defensively. Sithole is no slouch on defense and I’ve not heard of any issues with Smith so we should be ok defensively. If our big centres can break the line a few times we could see some tries (provided the ball goes to hand).

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.07.16 13:15:46 by Hulk Reply

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  • mooi man

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.07.16 13:18:11 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • JPP and Esterhuizen will either be devastating or a disaster,no grey areas in that pairing.
    I wish Gold would get over his fascination with Etienne Oosthuizen and start Botha,he immediately made a difference in the scrums when he came on against the Lions.
    This sis a very good team and I expect a bonus point against the Cheetahs.

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.07.16 13:25:52 by The hound Reply
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  • Odwa is being “rested” this week. :cool:

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.07.16 13:37:58 by The Great Couch Shark Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 8) : The combination of Lewies and Botha is a very physical and I imagine strong scrummaging lock combination. Have those 2, with the twins and Keegan as your loosies next year and you’ve got yourself a very mobile and physical forward contingent.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.07.16 13:38:34 by Hulk Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 8) : I think we will win … but not by much I would have had louw on the bench instead of heimar also

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.07.16 13:39:47 by John Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 8) : What I would like to know is who should the Sharks get to replace Jordaan with next season?

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.07.16 13:39:59 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @The Great Couch Shark (Comment 9) : The inverted comma rested… Meaning not rested for his own good…

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.07.16 13:40:07 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 12) : seems likely Johan Deysel will come

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.07.16 13:40:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • I like the look of this team, and really hope they come out with a different mindset on Saturday, for me that will be the key thing in terms of a turnaround from last weeks results.

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.07.16 13:41:27 by stevovo Reply
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  • Also not a big fan of Beast’s captaincy,I think it is a huge issue in this team,they need a strong captain on the field and don’t think Beast is up to it.
    If you are going to play Keegan then he must be the captain.

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.07.16 13:41:46 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : if we can get that done, it will be a very good signing

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.07.16 13:42:11 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 13) : Yep, more like ‘taken behind the shed and “rested”‘
    He really should be moving towards a player/coach role at the union anyway. His experience is invaluable.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.07.16 13:43:16 by The Great Couch Shark Reply
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  • I would also start Chilli,Marais is no where.

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.07.16 13:44:51 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : The Rob DuPreez influence in that perhaps…? Rhyno Smith then perhaps Johan Deysel…That Leopards 10- Barend Janse Van Rensburg i think is a good one…wouldnt be a bad 3rd choice in KZN…this assuming no Lambie

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.07.16 13:45:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The Great Couch Shark (Comment 18) : I feel that we are playing far to greater game playing Odwa ahead of Sithole. The only time I would play Odwa in the starting 15 is in the rain or if we are expecting a barrage of high balls. He should have been used this season as you said a player/coach, stay training but help groom our next crop.

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.07.16 13:46:49 by Hulk Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 16) : I would concur

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.07.16 13:49:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : I can live with that! :) I rate the lad. Wise move for him too.. Deysels seem to flourish at the Sharks :smile:

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.07.16 13:54:03 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 16) : agreed.

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.07.16 13:59:49 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Another Nick (Comment 23) : What is Jean Deysel up to these days? I know he was playing in Mauritius, but nothing in SR… Is he just not good enough? Injured?

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.07.16 14:13:41 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 25) : he was a tourist in Mauritius, didnt play at all

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.07.16 14:16:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Lekker team this…glad Esterhuizen is fit and ready, I’m sure having the big bruiser at his outside will give April confidence.

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.07.16 14:31:19 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 26) : oh. thought he was captain… whats up with that?

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.07.16 14:32:07 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 25) : Good question.. he was injured in the beginning of the year.. but haven’t seen him since. Youngsters like the Dup twins and ginger ninja probably keeping him out of a playing spot.

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.07.16 14:51:06 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 28) : Yeh that was my understanding, not sure if he was injured or what but he was there just never played and even on Sharkbite they had a piece on the tournament and he didnt even train so not sure what was up.

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.07.16 15:13:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Just a little aside to all the knowledgable rugby folk on this site who are adamant that the 1.96,Dan du Preez is too short to play lock for the Sharks.
    The 1.93 Maro Itoje started 26 games in a row for Saracens and England and was on the winning side in every one of them.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.07.16 15:15:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : stats I have say 1.95m.what is his standing reach?and his standing vertical leap?size of hands?

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.07.16 15:29:39 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : I dont think you need to be 2m plus to play lock but it helps. Dont think Itoje is 1.93 though as im 1.94 and he looks taller than me.

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.07.16 15:33:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : We have two bloody good locks, why waste Dan there?

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.07.16 15:47:23 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Wikipedia Itoje 1.93,Dan1.96,plus he is only 21 as well.

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.07.16 15:50:53 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : Ive stood next to Dan so his 1.96 definitely makes sense and seems right. He could definitely play lock. Itoje i would think is about his height perhaps slightly taller. Or maybe he just plays in very long studs

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.07.16 15:55:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : Ja, but Itoje is a crap lock. :twisted: …..not really, he has been great, a real athlete.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.07.16 16:20:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : @The hound (Comment 32) : dan dup might just be the danie rossouw/aj venter type player for the sharks.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.07.16 16:44:52 by 50shadesofshark Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark (Comment 38) : I agree but not according to the illuminati on this site.

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.07.16 16:52:48 by The hound Reply
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  • That backline has lots of power in the middle lots of speed out wide. Lots for a skilled pivot to work with. But I wonder if the ball skills will be there? Last week’s handling was atrocious. Hopefully the loosies can assist in getting some quick ball to test that backline. Very glad the regular center esterhuizen is available but would it not have been better to use sithole on outside center and JP on his regular position? The more continuity the better.

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.07.16 17:28:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 1) : I think at this point he has a bus barreling down at him on that cliff, so leap is about the only thing he he can do.

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.07.16 17:32:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 39) : I’ve always liked a lock/8th man. Russow and Andrews come to mind and I feel Dan must be used in this mold.

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.07.16 18:25:59 by Hulk Reply

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  • I would have started Chilliboy and Adriaanse. Coenie does a good job of slowing things down to a level where we can’t get quick go forward ball. And while I like Franco Chilli is much more dynamic.

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.07.16 18:34:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Everyone here seems to have forgotten all the hard work, and how productive EO has been at 4 this season. He has been one of the most consistent forwards, and doing a great deal of the donkey work. This is not taking anything away from Botha, who is a great addition. But with Lewies, EO, Botha, and Hyron Andrews, our lock stocks (and barrel) look pretty good. There is certainly no need to replace any of those first three with Dan Du Preez, who is one of our best 8s right now. We need him to stay right where he is in the back row. Yes he can be used in an emergency in the second row, where he will do very well, but his primary place should be the back row. And yes, he is most certainly big enough to be an international lock, I just don’t think that is where he will be best utilized. Dan has had a few injury issues this season, I hope he gets a good long injury free run, and he will prove his worth at 8.

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.07.16 19:30:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : what a sensible post. Du Preez has been impressive in the back row, Oosthuizen is a massively underrated no4 and has proven it whenever given a run in the position. Yes, du Preez can play 4 but why would he when neither the Sharks nor the Boks need him there in my opinion. A great Sharks side next year needs both du Preez boys in the back row and all 4 of the locks we have on the books challenging each other

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.07.16 19:44:08 by JR Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : Oosthuizen’s work at stopping the opposition driving maul is second to none….hard grafter that gets stuck in and does the dirty work – we should see the best of all our boys this Saturday, rust free.

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.07.16 19:55:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : The question wasn’t should he but could he,earlier this year when our lock situation was critical, I was attacked on this site for suggesting that Dan could play no 4,and to a man the criticism was that at 1.96 he was too short.My post today was not suggesting that he should play there but just to note at a 1.93 ,21 year old lock who at the moment is one of the best in the world and definitely the player of the recent Aus/ Eng series.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.07.16 20:33:24 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : Agree with you that Dan Dup is not too short to play 4. But only if absolutely necessary. I also agree with others on this site that he should stay at 8. I didn’t rate EO but the guy has proven every one wrong and deserve praise for his consistent performance.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.07.16 21:32:16 by sudhir Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : I’m with you Hound, I was certainly not one of those attacking your viewpoint. In fact at the beginning of the season there was a big question mark about EO’s ability after poor performances both at lock and at 7, or should I say inconsistent performances. With Botha injured and Andrews being very slightly built, I also felt it may be a good idea to use Dan at 4. However, in hindsight (always 20/20), it was exactly right to keep Dan at 8 as he developed significantly this season, even with the injuries. Furthermore, EO has really shone at 4 and may be the forward with the most minutes played for the Sharks this season. So all in all it turned out well, and I agree Dan is certainly big enough for lock, but right now the more time he spends in the back row, the quicker his development.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.07.16 01:06:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I really hope RS has a good game as we need a quality FB asap. Willie won’t stay around for much longer and Bosch will have to be given time off the bench to get use to SR and bulk up a bit before he can start. Other than that we don’t have a lot of options at 15. Having said that I do hope Bosch gets 10/15mins so we can see what he can bring at this level.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.07.16 07:49:19 by Quintin Reply

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  • With the likes of Botha, Lewies, Oosthuizen, Andrews, Dan Dup, JeanLuc Dup, Van Der Walt, Daniel, Mthembu, Deysel….picking the 4-8 positions and bench spots could be interesting going forward. Thats before thinking of any other youngsters to bring through

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.07.16 08:01:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 50) : Willie is all but gone,and most of the FB money has been invested in Bosch,this game is probably his best opportunity to step up and prove that he is worthy of all that hype and hope.
    Rather against the Cheetahs at home,than any other team apart from the Kings.

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.07.16 08:42:50 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 52) : Agreed, lets just hope the guy is up to it physically, all be it just for 20 minutes.

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.07.16 09:36:02 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : I have not. In fact he is completely different man compared to last year. I for one am happy he keeps the starting berth while botha comes up to speed maybe even after he must continue learning the art of offload and running the space. No reason he can’t be every bit as good as any lock we have available.

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.07.16 10:05:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 51) : Would it not be a good thing to have a sharks A team like the boks A team with some competitions pref international ones just focusing on maintaining and conditioning these guys. We can rotate in and out.

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.07.16 10:09:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • This is going to be a massive game. Good luck to Bosch, I know I have slatted him for his defence etc, but I wish him all the best in this game ( should he get on ) and hope he proves me wrong

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.07.16 10:15:21 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @coolfusion (Comment 55) : Think thats what this whole CC qualifying is kinda intended to be so that super rugby sides can keep fit squads. Although some have rather used it for exposing their youth. So guess the sort of platform is there, just depends how a team uses it.

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.07.16 10:50:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 57) : I would rather see us keeping our guys sharp with some international exposure there is still a huge step up from cc to SR. If we could organise tours or find inclusion in some international series for our A team we would have a ready resource pool plus be able to stock more than one set of good replacements and keep players happy and not wasting away. But what am I saying, we can’t even hold on to the first choice guys we have now so where would be be able to hold on to two teams. Maybe we should find out why guys are so eager to leave first.

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.07.16 11:25:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Come on Sharks!!!!

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.07.16 11:26:51 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 58) : Yeh as you said we would then need to contract a very large group of players…and so would other teams in order for us to play them. So i get the merits of what you saying but find it very difficult to believe anything like that will ever happen. Best result would be to use the CC qualifying games in a much better way. This year i dont think the same team has been used in consecutive games. Cant really see what they are looking to achieve other than to fill a team for the game…which is a waste i feel

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.07.16 11:31:01 by SheldonK Reply

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