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Changes for Sharks XV


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 8 Jul 2016 at 10:00
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It’s a little strange, to me at least, to see wholesale changes to the Sharks XV side that recorded a narrow, but important, victory over the Leopards last week.

For this week’s clash against the Griffons, Morne Joubert moves from fullback to right wing, with Alrin Eksteen preferred in the last line of defence. Malcom Cele switches wings, with Legend Marwana, who was at left wing last week, now partnering Neil Maritz in the centres. A new scrumhalf in Hanco Venter leaves Maritz and flyhalf Inny Radebe as the only two backline players to start in hte same positions.

Retief Marais is at 8 for Ayron Schramm, with Jean Droste replacing Hyron Andrews as captain Dave McDuling’s lock partner. Further changes in the front row see Mzamo Majola and Ruan Kramer start at prop, in for Juan Schoeman and Gerhard Engelbrecht respectively.

Sharks XV: 15. Alrin Eksteen, 14. Morne Joubert, 13. Neil Maritz, 12. Nkululeko Marwana, 11. Malcolm Cele, 10. Inny-Christian Radebe, 9. Hanco Venter, 8. Retief Marais, 7. Wian Vosloo, 6. Graham Geldenhuys, 5. Jean Droste, 4. David McDuling (Capt), 3. Ruan Kramer, 2. Stephan Coetzee, 1. Mzamo Majola
Replacements: 16. Kerron van Vuuren, 17. Barend Potgieter, 18. John Meyer, 19. Khaya Majola, 20. Jaywinn Juries, 21. Duncan Campbell, 22. Sandile Kubeka



30 Comments

  • Hi Rob, the flu has depleted the side

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.07.16 10:13:51 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • What’s the story with Inny Radebe? I expected him to have started making his mark in senior rugby already but it seems he hasn’t played much for the Sharks XV. Injuries? Form?

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.07.16 10:26:50 by Baylion Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 1) : aaah, is that what it is?

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.07.16 10:46:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 2) : had a bad run with injury this year

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.07.16 10:46:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Tx Rob

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.07.16 10:48:33 by Baylion Reply

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  • Nice to see Eksteen back as i think he has been good this year. Im not convinced by Marwana at 12 so would have switched him and Morne Joubert even if thats a bit out the box thinking. Duncan Campbell seems to have snatched Tristan Tedders place in the 10 pecking order…

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.07.16 10:55:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : It looks like it Rob, I was up in Durban for business and had dinner with two of the players, both who looked half dead.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.07.16 11:43:53 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : Louw would have played 12 but it not well

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.07.16 11:44:56 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • Pardon my rant, but as a passionate sharks supporter I have to say this:
    It’s a bit scary that this XV team represents the depth of youth in Sharks rugby with no-one (except for Inny-Radebe) tipped as a future star.
    It’s been quite obvious that this season the team has been used as a PR tool to spread the love of the game into the townships, which is a noble cause for sure, don’t get me wrong, but then are we surprised by dire results when the focus here is clearly not on the rugby field, but off it?
    When unwanted Natal players like Ruan Combrink, Julian Redlinghuys, Warren Whitley and the Cronje brothers all go on to star for the Lions (and Boks) then the union should be asking serious questions about its ability to identify, recruit and retain young talent.
    As for the XV captain, Khaya Majola may be the popular choice but no-one is realistically tipping him for higher honours in the game, and if he was going to break-thru he would have done it by now; which begs the question of why he is earmarked as a leader for the future.
    Lastly, I propose that with the Craven Week to be held at Kearsney this year, the KZNRU should do the shameless thing and hold out their cheque-books to any youngster with a modicum of talent, because we need to start building a team of future stars, and this XV team ain’t cutting it.
    Rant over.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.07.16 11:47:10 by The Great Couch Shark Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 8) : Fair enough, just think Marwana would make a bigger impact on the wing or 13. Not taking anything away from Maritz who is a good 13.

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.07.16 11:52:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The Great Couch Shark (Comment 9) : Holding out an empty chequebook wont do much good though ;) But i fully get your rant :)

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.07.16 11:54:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The Great Couch Shark (Comment 9) : You could not be further from the truth. I posted on here the other day, an u21 side that could be fielded this year. Inno is certainly not the only player tipped for higher honours.

    I will give you the following names, 99% will make it – M Majola, J Du Toit, G Geldenhuys, A Schramm, M Louw, C Bosch, Nkosi – then you have the twins, H Andrews and T Du Toit who are already there. for your personal worry, I will let you know the current team who could play u21 this year and could easily win it

    1 T Du Toit
    2 A Du Plessis / K V Verron
    3 Kramer
    4 H Andrews
    5 J Du Toit
    6 D Du Preez
    7 JL Du Preez
    8 A Schramm ( again, watch this space )
    9 J Juries / M Reece Edwards
    10 Inno
    11 Cele
    12 Louw
    13 M Joubert
    14 Nkosi
    15 Bosch

    now if you telling me there is no talent there, you are crazy The XV side has not been playing the best u21′s and in the one game they did, they ended up beating W Province. The XV side has also been used as a platform for non contracted players to put up their hands, to be honest, no one gives a shit about the comp.

    we have plenty talent and I will not be surprised if the Sharks are the top Union once again in the next 2 years – they must just not let players leave.

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.07.16 12:28:53 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 12) : If you take out the Springboks from the current SR teams, and you then add in these youngster into the Sharks CC squad, we could well be very well of at the end of the CC, a real great list of guys with lost of potential, but like you say we need to hold onto them

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.07.16 12:36:59 by Henkb Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 12) : The big problem will be retaining these guys and/or promoting them ahead of older established players. So non u21s already in senior setup: Chadwick, Schoeman,Adriaanse, Coenie , Marais, Chilliboy, Botha, Lewies, Oosthuizen, Deysel, Daniel, Mthembu, Claasens, Reinach, Ungerer, Esterhuizen, Sithole, Mvovo, Mjekevu, Am, Williams. Havnt heard of any of those moving on so limited space for youngsters to play

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.07.16 12:37:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : This is where talent scouting becomes very important. Out of those youngsters named, you do not want to lose more Combrinks, Whiteleys etc You have to find a balance, which will never be perfect.

    But to my mind, this young group of players need to be kept together and nurtured, they need to shown they are wanted and believed in. there is no rush, let them compete in the u21 comp this year and lets start blooding them in slowly next year.

    This is where communication and man management become vital, all the young guns going past the u21 age group, need to know where they stand. I am very positive about our young players and this is also why I do not want someone like Bosch playing senior CC this year, lets rather focus on the incredibly strong u21 side and go out and win the comp. I am sure this will make a lot more of us positive for the future

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.07.16 14:25:28 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 15) : I do get where you are coming from. Its that man management that is very tough and something the Sharks arent known for being particularly good at truth be told. out of those u21s….i can see Thomas DuToit,Andrews, Dupreez x 2, Inny Radebe and Bosch making it in the senior side next year. The rest i highly doubt…injuries aside.

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.07.16 14:36:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) : Keep an eye out for Schramm – he had a rough start, was made captain of the u19 side with the twins etc and went through a bit of a naughty time, typical 19 year old behaviour. He was selected in the final 32 for the SA U20 side whilst still u19 and would have made it, bar his discipline problems.

    anyway, to cut a long story short, the sharks have been very good with him and given him a chance to mature, just give him a watch and let me know your thoughts – the game is televised next week Friday against the Valke.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.07.16 16:33:13 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) : Nkozi junior Boks this year in a position we will be short, Joubert and Silaule went close – and the prop Majola looked great last year. I think the glass is less half-empty than you’re making out…

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.07.16 17:39:34 by JR Reply

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  • I agree thing are so where as bad as people would like to be leave

    the cc for real hasn’t even started yet

    people are freaking out cause we’re mixing the team up, giving plays a chance

    we’ve had a few injuries etc

    this is the vodacom cup, it looks to me like they were using it to get some players ready for the currie cup

    Majola was great last year in the cc, and was missed when he got injured

    and taking the team to the town ships for home games is not the reason we’ve struggle.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.07.16 19:10:58 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • XV win 36 – 27.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.07.16 17:17:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Good result again this week from the Sharks XV against a tricky Griffons side. Quite scary that a fairly close win against the Griffons gets us excited but i guess thats the level we are currently at. Hopefully some continuity and more good results will drag us further forward…heres to hoping

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.07.16 10:29:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 17) : With the loosies we have i really cant see Schram getting a look in. Unless some are leaving i dont know about. So yes he has a good pedigree..but just cant seem him getting in ahead of the older guys there.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.07.16 10:32:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JR (Comment 18) : Nkosi when fit will come into it as we short in the back 3. I havtn heard a single thing about Silaule…is he even playing? I wouldnt say Majola the prop looked great…he looked alright when he came on but gave away a lot due to his smaller size. He will need some injuries before he gets a run…he isnt even a starting fixture in the Sharks XV.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.07.16 10:35:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : Sheldon, you must remember something here, this is by far the youngest side in the comp. At any given game, you have 9-10 u21 players in the team/22 man squad. No other Union has such a young side.

    So yes, a win against anyone of the MEN provincial sides is a great achievement.

    As far as Schramm goes, watch this space, next year I will be telling you I told you so :grin:

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.07.16 16:30:53 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 24) : @SheldonK (Comment 23) : what happened?
    how did 9,10, 12, 13 go?

    Especially Inny coming back from another injury?

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.07.16 08:55:52 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 25) : I didnt watch or know anyone that watched the Griffons game, just saw the result and having watched the Griffons play before they are a tricky side to play…not very conventional.

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.07.16 09:16:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 24) : Yes it may be a young side but that was the Sharks choice and not sure who else besides those guys would have played? So the Sharks chose those young kids to play so must then live with the poor results. We cant say we have good youngsters ready to make the step up but the next sentence say the very poor results are because these are youngsters playing against men…its either one or the other. In my view yes we have some promising youngsters but they arent ready for the top level. Schramm does have a lot of potential…i just cant see who will miss out for him to be included?

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.07.16 09:19:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Young players not getting higher honours sooner rather than later will always leave a union and likewise others may join a union. So if i look at youngish Sharks side for the next few years id probably look to 1. DuToit/Majola 2. Chilliboy/Marais 3. Adriaanse/Kramer 4. Botha 5. Lewies/Andrews 6. Majola/Geldenhuys 7. DuPreez/Mthembu 8. DuPreez/Scramm 9. Ungerer/Venter 10. April/ Radebe 11. Nkosi 12. Esterhuizen/Marwana 13. Sithole/Am/Mjekevu 14. Joubert 15. Bosch/ Smith?

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.07.16 09:58:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 28) : Could be much worse! Am an option at 12?

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.07.16 22:32:30 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 29) : I wasnt sure the future of guys like AM, Mjekevu, Smith at the Sharks. I think all 3 could add good value if we can keep them.

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.07.16 07:49:56 by SheldonK Reply

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