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So…. the Currie Cup awaits


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 26 Jul 2016 at 16:29
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While we wait for the coaching structure to become clearer, we can perhaps while away our time by looking at the players who are likely to be in the mix for the Sharks this Currie Cup season.

It’s fair to assume that the bulk of the Super Rugby squad will move forward to Currie Cup, minus those players that we know are leaving (or have already left). Given the state of play at the moment, it’s unlikely that all that many Sharks players will be in the Rugby Championship mix, but those who are will no doubt miss the entire Currie Cup. I’m going to try and piece things together based on a probables and possibles list per position, back-filling the Super Rugby squad with guys from the Currie Cup Qualifying group were necessary.

The overall picture here is that the Sharks probably do have too many players, given their current constraints and with not all that many of them really putting their hands up at lower tiers, I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see a fair few names in the possibles category shipped out in the near term. Where a player is still eligible for under 21 rugby this year, I’ll call that out.

Forwards:

Definitely out: Beast Mtawarira (Boks), Kyle Cooper (Newcastle), Marcell Coetzee (Ulster), Tjiuee Uanivi (Glasgow), Giant Mtayanda (injured/Pumas), Daniel du Preez (injured)

Definitely in: Dale Chadwick, Thomas du Toit, Coenie Oosthuizen, Lourens Adriaanse, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Franco Marais, Etienne Oosthuizen, Ruan Botha, Stephan Lewies, Keegan Daniel, Jean-Luc du Preez, Tera Mtembu, Philip van der Walt, Jean Deysel

Possibly in (u21 in italics):Mthunzi Moloi, Barend Potgieter, Juan Schoeman, Gerhard Engelbrecht, Ruan Kramer, Kerron van Vuuren, Stephan Coetzee, Chris de Beer, Andrew du Plessis, Mzamo Majola, David McDuling, Hyron Andrews, Jean Droste, Ayron Schramm, Wian Vosloo, Christiaan de Bruin, Johan du Toit, Graham Geldenhuys, Francois Kleinhans, Khaya Majola, Retief Marais

Backs:

Definitely out: Cobus Reinach (injured), Patrick Lambie (Boks), Joe Pietersen (Japan), Paul Jordaan (La Rochelle), JP Pietersen (Boks/Leicester), Wille le Roux (Boks/Japan), Rowan Gouws (injured), Tristan Tedder (Toulouse)

Definitely in: Michael Claassens, Stefan Ungerer, Garth April, Andre Esterhuizen, Lukhanyo Am, Heimar Williams, Wandile Mjekevu, Odwa Ndungane, Lwazi Mvovo, S’bura Sithole, Rhyno Smith, Curwin Bosch

Possibly in (u21 in italics): Hanco Venter, Dylan Marcus, Jaywinn Juries, Inny-Christian Radebe, Duncan Campbell, Tristan Blewett, Sandile Khubeka, Marius Louw, Neil Maritz, Nkululeko Marwana, Wayno Visagie, Malcolm Cele, Marcel Coetzee, Sipho Mkhize, S’busiso Nkosi, Zweli Silaule, Alrin Eksteen, Morne Joubert



19 Comments

  • According to R365:
    Director of Rugby Gary Gold confirmed that Robert du Preez will be the team’s head coach for the Currie Cup campaign and he will he be assisted by his fellow Super Rugby assistant coaches – Omar Mouneimne, Sean Everitt and Ryan Strudwick. Loubscher joins the team as a skills coach, on a three-year contract.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.07.16 16:55:09 by Baylion Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 1) : ja, it’s up

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.07.16 16:57:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • Doesnt JC Askle still belong to us ?

    Is ryno smith officially a shark, does he an Johan deysel both not still be contracted to the leopards ?

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.07.16 17:32:52 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 3) : I dunno. They made a pretty firm decision not to use Astle, van Tonder, etc earlier in the year and i’m not sure why they’d go back on that now.

    As for Smith and Deysel, I’m pretty sure we’ve contracted them for Currie Cup

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.07.16 18:19:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Jeremy Ward to play u21? Liked his heart and commitment in the u20 WC, more than what we saw from his colleagues

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.07.16 07:03:20 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 5) : I believe Ward will join us from 1 November, so won’t play u21 for us this year.

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.07.16 07:27:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • I’ve been informed that one of our games is scheduled for 2 Oct 2016 at KP – a Sunday. Surely this is not right???? :evil: :roll: :sad:

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.07.16 07:31:39 by BluffShark Reply

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  • @BluffShark (Comment 7) : the fixtures list that people are publishing is only provisional. The final fixture list will only be ratified tomorrow. So don’t get too worked up yet.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.07.16 07:38:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • Some guys I would like to see get some CC time:

    Lukhanyo Am
    Alrin Eksteen
    Morne Joubert
    Inny Radebe

    Those are positions I believe we need to build some depth and SH, don’t know who we have who would be a good talent in the future though.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.07.16 08:07:02 by Quintin Reply

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  • It looks like we will have a fairly experienced and settled group of forwards and perhaps a bit of a new backline- especially in terms of combos. Overall i think we do have a lot of good players that arent playing as well as they should…how that can change im not sure and perhaps some personal reflection from the players needs to be done…together with some harsh words from a captain (interesting to see who that will be). The Sharks can definitely put out a pretty good unit on paper…whether those guys can lift their current standards and execute on the field is a very different matter…

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.07.16 09:01:59 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Interestingly I read on the Supersport Active news on DSTV about their superrugby bok barometer – they named a squad with replacements – it contains not a single Sharks player…biased much???
    Bok Barometer for 2016: 15. Jesse Kriel (Bulls), 14. Ruan Combrinck (Lions), 13. Francois Venter (Cheetahs), 12. Rohan Janse van Rensburg (Lions), 11. Courtnall Skosan (Lions), 10. Elton Jantjies (Lions), 9. Faf de Klerk (Lions), 8. Warren Whiteley (Lions), 7. Siya Kolisi (Stormers), 6. Jaco Kriel (Lions), 5. Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), 4. Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), 3. Vincent Koch (Stormers), 2. Malcolm Marx (Lions), 1. Dylan Smith (Lions).

    This year the votes were spread out well enough for us to be able to give you bench as well. If you’re not happy with one of our selections, feel free to substitute.

    Replacements: 16: Edgar Marutlulle (Kings), 17. Lizo Gqoboka (Bulls) 18. Maks van Dyk (Cheetahs), 19. RG Snyman (Bulls), 20. Lappies Labuschagne (Bulls), 21. Nic Groom (Stormers), 22. Jean-Luc du Plessis (Stormers), 23. Sergeal Petersen (Cheetahs).

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.07.16 09:31:59 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 11) : I thought the starting side is pretty damn good and accurate. Bench is a bit iffy though.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.07.16 09:44:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • On paper there looks like sufficient depth to have a reasonable side come the Currie Cup.

    that just doesn’t seem enough anymore, however, we really need to start looking more at which guys will bring the right attitude, heart and willingness to upskill I believe if we want to progress as a team.

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.07.16 09:49:47 by stevovo Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 12) : No Redelinghuys, Mapoe and Mostert in the mix?

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.07.16 09:50:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) : I would have probably had all 3 of them on the bench. The guys they picked have all played very well in Super rugby. Could possibly shift Mapoe to wing instead of Skosan. Mostert over Etzebeth perhaps. But yeh if you took that starting side and had a bench of Beast(struggling to think of a LH other than perhaps DuToit), Maratulle, Redelinghuis, Mostert, Van Der Walt, Cronje, Lambie, Mapoe…that would be quite a side with a serious bench impact

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.07.16 10:00:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 11) : @SheldonK (Comment 15) : feel skosan is a very under_rated wing.like the centre combo.

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.07.16 11:44:53 by 50shadesofshark2 Reply

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  • @50shadesofshark2 (Comment 16) : Skosan has had a good season, cannot deny that. He is a guy that gives it all every game. Also like the centres.

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.07.16 11:51:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Stephen lewies averages more line out wins, line out steals, tackles, offloads, meters per carry per game than Mostert yet even on a sharks site he doesn’t get a mention. Such an underated player

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.07.16 08:17:29 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 18) : No you right he has had a good season. Mostert has been very good for a while so is also very deserving. Some quality locks in SA at the moment…and i wouldnt put Lood in the top 5.

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.07.16 08:24:05 by SheldonK Reply

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