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Springbok captain to retire


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, The Rugby Championship on 2 Sep 2016 at 08:11
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Current Springbok captain Adriaan Strauss is set to retire at the end of the 2016 season.

This will come as a shock to most as his recent appointment as captain would have given the fans the idea of there being a long term plan with Strauss as captain. This is in fact not the case, as Strauss had informed Allister Coetzee of his intention to retire at the end of the season when he was appointed.

This makes me question the decision to appoint him, but we won’t go into that right now.

My initial reaction was that the media coverage of him and the general public outcry had gotten to him mentally, but this is then not the case if his decision was already made at the start of the season.

We wish you all the best Adriaan.



103 Comments

  • So he will retire, and the apparent second choice hooker has not played a minute yet. I’m just hoping this means Bissy will be recalled and that Whiteley be appointed captain. The Boks are crying out for a leader.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.09.16 08:21:17 by KingRiaan Reply
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  • I question a lot of things Allister has done, including accepting the job offer in the first place

    It seems Adriaan needed Bismarck to bring out his best, just not been the same this year. Anyway, all the best

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.09.16 08:21:22 by Die Kriek Reply
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  • I have so many questions, and I actually feel bad about the article I wrote. We should be wishing this guy all the best after many seasons of decent rugby, both provincially and internationally.

    But I am irritated in the lack of logic in the greater scheme of things. It is just so frustrating that nobody in our administration is thinking, they are just doing stupid things at all times without thinking of the consequences…

    One has to wonder if the plan was not initially for Duane Vermeulen to be captain? But that also doesn’t make sense, a he was in the squad at the time and not made captain.

    So many questions….

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.09.16 08:26:17 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : I have to agree with you on all those points butt also have to add that Im glad he’s going, I just wish it could be sooner.

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.09.16 08:31:17 by Quintin Reply

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  • Firstly i have to say that Strauss moving to the Bulls pretty much killed his career and he looks far less energised and dynamic than he did at the Cheetahs. Then i too have a few questions…why announce this decision now whilst he is overseas, in the middle of a competition and a week out from a test match? Is this decision prompted by AC having a frank conversation with him? Does this decision possibly signify a change in leadership for the remainder of the comp? Just seems very odd to announce it now instead of when they returned or after the comp. I must admit i was a fan of Strauss when he was at the Cheetahs.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.09.16 08:33:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 5) :

    Seeing as everybody is going on about his decision rather than wishing him well, I might as well add my thinking:

    If Coetzee knew he was going to retire, why make him captain? That is obvious, but think about the consequences: Him being captain would require him to be on the field of play 90% of the time, meaning that no other hooker in the country would get 10 minutes to prove he is good enough. So a year down the line, we would have no 2nd choice hooker that we know can step up.

    Why would Coetzee knowingly appoint a captain for only a year. I can understand a short term captain for the Ireland series, having had a few weeks to prepare. But by the time the Rugby Champs came around, he had a few months in SA to make a call. Why then still go for the retiring guys, especially with all this talk of a young and energetic group. It was the perfect time to appoint someone young, to give the player all the time with no pressure, seeing as the team was young and rebuilding and there wasn’t this expectation of winning everything.

    Now a new captain would most likely be appointed for the End of Year Tour, which puts all of the pressure on that person to go over to Europe and prove a point, knowing that a poor performance would mean he would not be captain in 2017.

    There was the ideal opportunity to get a captain settled early in his tenure as coach, but he missed it.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.09.16 08:43:09 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 5) : I am now convinced that the Bok management and leadership’s stupidity has no bounds. We all said it before the Irish tests, why make him captain if he’s not going to be around for long? A lot of people on here actually backed him. Now, for what reason? We’ll need a new captain at the end of the year, just as we did at the beginning of this one, stupidity!

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.09.16 08:43:41 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 6) : @Quintin (Comment 7) : Exactly, stupidity with no bounds! I can’t think of any other reason that we haven’t covered.

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.09.16 08:45:34 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : I agree with you Coetzee wanted Vermulen as his captain,but I would presume that the captain must be locally based.Seems that they couldn’t convince Vermullen to come home to the Stormers and Yoda was stuck with the Telly tubby as his captain
    .Straus was never more than a convenience not the worst option but never ever in his entire career the best option.He grew up in his cousin and Bismarck’s shadow

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.09.16 08:48:13 by The hound Reply
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  • Unless the whole thing about him telling Coetzee at the beginning of the year is an excuse and his retirement is simply Coetzee forcing him out?

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.09.16 08:48:54 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 9) :

    Must say, I would be more comfortable with Vermeulen as captain. I have nothing to base that on, but surely he has leadership ability if Toulon would appoint him from that group of talent.

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.09.16 08:50:43 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • On a positive note, please AC can you get us Marx now for the bench and Bissy to start? Or either way around I don’t care. I won’t last another 80mins with an overwhelmingly under performing captain. Your captain should be one of your players consistently putting in good performances, setting an example to youngsters and providing some energy like Keegan is doing in our setup. Adriaan has been bad from the start of SR.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.09.16 08:52:13 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 12) :

    Just to correct you there, Adriaan has been terrible since he made the decision to join the Bulls. Not sure why, but his form was left in Bloem.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.09.16 08:54:37 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 11) : There is a golden ( excuse the pun)opportunity here to give Whitely the captaincy,would be the best captain since Gary Teichmann.

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.09.16 08:54:50 by The hound Reply
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  • Wel, what is there to say? If he knew from the start he was retiring he just like JS and JdV before him put his own ego ahead of his country.

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.09.16 08:54:58 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 10) : The fact that AC made him captain for the remainder of the year following the Ireland series makes me think he wasnt aware of the retirement plans at end of the year. I also think AC’s first choice was Vermuelen both as captain and no.8 hence the decision to overlook Whiteley even when Vermuelen ruled out. So interesting to see how this plays out. Does Strauss look for an overseas offer in 2017 perhaps?

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.09.16 08:55:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 14) : I suspect they lining up Vermeulin.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.09.16 08:56:09 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • This reeks of face-saving. Heads must roll after bad performances and a soldier was chosen to take the fall (diplomatically done of course). All the best Adriaan. Now go make a ton of money!

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.09.16 08:56:14 by bokbok Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) :

    Would he get an offer overseas based on his current form?

    I still don’t know whether the retirement is from International rugby alone or from all forms of rugby?

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.09.16 08:57:56 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 17) : I can’t see him coming back from the Toulon money and there is no way we will ever have an overseas based captain

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.09.16 08:59:35 by The hound Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 19) : From what I read it isonly for International rugby

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.09.16 08:59:36 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 16) :

    Look, Vermeulen in top form suits the Boks style of play and he is a great player, and is probably not the worst idea as captain. Him being overseas has probably blocked that move, but I don’t see it being a problem.

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.09.16 08:59:44 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 20) :

    Just for interest sake… Why not have an overseas captain?

    I know administrators would say no, but do we necessarily agree with that?

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.09.16 09:00:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 20) : a few years ago there was also no way of us picking overseas players ;-) How this has messed up our local rugby landscape :???:

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.09.16 09:00:50 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 19) : He has very intimate relationships in Samoa,guys he’s got very friendly with on the fieldt

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.09.16 09:01:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 14) : I like Whiteley too, not sure he could be the next Teich at test level though. Jaco Kriel on the other hand, could be the next Mccaw if he is backed fully. I would make him captain today.

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.09.16 09:01:36 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 23) : I personally wouldnt want an overseas captain. Impossible to convince the young guys to stay once you have opened that door.

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.09.16 09:03:49 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 23) : I tend to support the sentiment that your captain should playing the same system as the rest of the team.Can you imagine NZ,AUS,eng picking an off shore captain.

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.09.16 09:03:57 by The hound Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 23) : At the current rate I agree with you, not to say I agree Vermeulin should be cappy, but my biggest issue here is we telling our young stars it’s ok to play overseas, hence the huge player drain currently. That said I can’t really think of any euro player who actually deserves their place in the bok team.

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.09.16 09:04:57 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : Also think Vermeulen isn’t a bad choice but then you sit with a guy who also hasn’t performed like we would like him to this year and with WW on the bench because DV is captain? If that is the plan, at least make Lambie vice captain when he comes back, so that if either of them aren’t playing we have a backup, unlike we have at the moment.

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.09.16 09:06:12 by Quintin Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 26) : I tend to agree there, Kriel is just as good as a cappy as what Warren is. I think Kriel is more sure of a starting place too.

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.09.16 09:06:47 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 29) : Bismark, and Frans Steyn would make such a huge difference to our team going into the next two games.

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.09.16 09:07:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 19) : From what i understand it is only International rugby. And there have been a lot worse players signing for French teams etc…

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.09.16 09:07:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : OK sure, I forgot they still existed :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.09.16 09:09:01 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : yes.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.09.16 09:09:08 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : If Frans Steyn was born in New Zealand he wouldve been a 150 cap superstar. Such a waste.

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.09.16 09:13:18 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 36) : Agreed! I’m very pissed that we wasted such an awesome talent that Frans Steyn is!

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.09.16 09:15:58 by Quintin Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 28) :

    Is Adriaan Strauss playing the same style at the Bulls, as the Boks are playing at the moment?

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.09.16 09:16:52 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) :

    I agree on Bismarck.. Less so on Steyn.

    Bismarck would add an intimidation factor that the current squad lacks..

    And I do suppose Frans would be a better 12 than De Allende or de Jongh..

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.09.16 09:18:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 36) : Badly managed,he should have had a Robbie Deans,Steve Hansen type in his life,in retrospect he should have stayed with the very first guy who moulded him Murray Mexted.

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.09.16 09:19:48 by The hound Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 27) :
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    @The hound (Comment 28) :

    I hear what you guys are saying, and I agree.

    But what exactly is stopping a guy from going overseas and still playing for the Boks? Only being the captain at this stage.. So it is not going to work selecting players, and saying they can represent playing over there, but hey, at least we control the captain here is SA.

    A stand has to be taken, either use no overseas Boks, and commit to it, or simply use them all and pick the best team, no matter where they are..

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.09.16 09:22:59 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • In a dream world,9 Faf,10 ,Patrick,12 Frans,13,Mapoe,bring on the All Blacks.

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.09.16 09:24:35 by The hound Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 41) : I suspect that Coetzee will revert to Schalk Burger soon,he will see him as the solution to his problem at 10.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.09.16 09:26:49 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 43) :

    You sir, just made me smile!

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.09.16 09:32:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 43) : :grin:

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.09.16 09:35:27 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 42) : Map who??

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.09.16 09:39:15 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 46) : :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.09.16 09:41:46 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 41) : Yea look HM started this crap, we now in such a big hole we have to select euro players. My stance on this is stop selecting euro players with immediate effect.

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.09.16 09:43:10 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 46) : Thats the one,much rather have Esterhuizen there at 13 but that won’t happen even in a dream world.

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.09.16 09:43:41 by The hound Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 41) : Well in an ideal world it should be banned to save the local game. Im probably naive, but my tiny mind cant understand how we cant afford to pay our top players top dollar. We can afford to have 14 unions. We can afford to pay our executives Millions. (I heard Smit was getting paid R5m a year at provincial level!) We can afford to shove a 6th team into super rugby. We can afford assistant coaches for our assistant coaches, but we cant afford to pay Duane Vermeulen??

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.09.16 09:49:44 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 48) : Mine too. HM was warned this would happen. a child couldve seen it coming.

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.09.16 09:53:27 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • There is no way that Im buying the story that the decssion to retire from international rugby was taken and made known earlier already. I think its of one person being able to take so much and no more. I foresee a time when finding a (competent) long term captain for the Boks will be just as hard as securing the services of a top notch coach.

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.09.16 10:05:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • This just shows again that sometimes facts are indeed stranger than fiction!!!!

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.09.16 10:09:08 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 52) : I’d say that you can collect your Nostradamus award at the door,that day is already here.

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.09.16 10:10:32 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 54) : I think he knew that before you said it ;)

  • Comment 55, posted at 02.09.16 10:15:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 55) : You also can collect yours too,then.

  • Comment 56, posted at 02.09.16 10:16:41 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 54) : @SheldonK (Comment 55) : Flippit guys there must be about 150 000 guys in line to collect theirs ahead of me, maybe I will come back later. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 57, posted at 02.09.16 10:19:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Marcel coetsee was to be appointed Sharks captain but as soon as it became known that he would be leaving the captaincy was given to beast. Yet AC knew all along that Strauss was retiring but still made him captain. Where’s the intelligence in this?

  • Comment 58, posted at 02.09.16 10:29:53 by sudhir Reply

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  • It’s sad that it has become frustrating to be a Bok supporter. I remember not too long ago, standing in a Keg with a few fellows singing along when the anthem played before the game, knowing we are going to play some good rugby, or at least expecting it. Can’t see that happening next week not to even mention against the AB’s. I want a reason to go to a pub and enjoy a game dammit.

  • Comment 59, posted at 02.09.16 10:32:53 by Quintin Reply

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  • At least we still have Sharks rugby….because, unless major changes happen soon at saru, Bok rugby will be dead by 2019.

  • Comment 60, posted at 02.09.16 10:33:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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    Interesting you mention 2019.

    At that RWC, I would put money on it that the Boks would not make it past the QF’s.

    The cut off for rankings must be soon, and the way the Boks are going, we are due to be in a group with either the All Blacks or England, which would put us against a top team in the QF’s and then it is home James…

  • Comment 61, posted at 02.09.16 10:39:03 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 59) : Maybe you deserve the opposite of a Nostradamus award,
    sorry to have to be the one to break this to you,the best reason to got a pub is to drink.
    Trust me it works, the more you drink the beer the Boks get,for a little while anyway.

  • Comment 62, posted at 02.09.16 10:49:03 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 62) :

    Or just happen to be in the pub when the All Blacks play, then the rugby should be great!

  • Comment 63, posted at 02.09.16 10:51:17 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 63) : I am so amped to be in our stadium when the All Blacks play,seeing the Hakka live is a genuine thrill,seeing it on our ground is a life changing experience.It just reminds you why this game can remain in your veins for so many years.

  • Comment 64, posted at 02.09.16 10:55:29 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 64) : I agree with you. But i hear there is this stupid competiton where fans will get to stand behind or next to the Boks on the field during the Haka to experience it themselves. Talk about degrading some of the tradition and respect that should be shown the Haka. I guess sponsors dont care

  • Comment 65, posted at 02.09.16 11:04:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) : What?

  • Comment 66, posted at 02.09.16 11:20:19 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) : I so hate that,its a great tradition.but apart from that it is one of the few things that has stood the test of time and still make your blood move after all these years.
    I did notice ADIDAS subtly fucking with it,they now stand in the formation of the Adidas Triangle.

  • Comment 67, posted at 02.09.16 11:34:31 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) : Next thing they’ll have a competition to stand next to Bolt on the olympic podium.

  • Comment 68, posted at 02.09.16 11:36:18 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 67) : hahaha not sure if you’re correct with the reason for the “triangle” formation. Personally I was thinking they’re trying to look like an arrow tip. They must be glad Puma is not their sponsor just imagine how that would have looked hahahaha all I can think of now is All Blacks standing in a “Puma” formation hahaha thanks for making my Friday!

  • Comment 69, posted at 02.09.16 11:54:28 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 64) : How about making a round trip of 900kms to go and watch the All Blacks take on the then, very mighty, Natal at KP soon after SA’s readmission to world sports, going to the pub under the main grandstand for a beer before kickoff, getting chatting to the locals and only coming out of the pub long after the final whistle had been blown. Thats what happened to 2 of the guys that made the trip with us that day. They at least saw the game on TV and later on got a live,close up demonstration of the Haka.

  • Comment 70, posted at 02.09.16 11:59:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 70) : :lol: I as always have a better one,how about standing at the boom gate at the Breweries building in Sandton,at 10 o’clock on Saturday night,after the first AB ‘s test after readmission,watching a very pissed Robin Brooke and Ian Jones jumping over the barrier arm while it was in upward motion.

  • Comment 71, posted at 02.09.16 12:05:01 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 62) : Why would I go to a pub and not drink? To me, that does not make any sense :mrgreen: I just like to go there for rugby because then I have a better excuse than just saying I’m going there to, well, drink? :lol:

  • Comment 72, posted at 02.09.16 12:10:27 by Quintin Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 66) : @The hound (Comment 67) : @The hound (Comment 68) : Yeh it really grates me when i hear things like that. All tradition and respect chucked out the window for a few tweets

  • Comment 73, posted at 02.09.16 12:16:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 69) : Iam totally sure about that triangle formation,it is what is known as subliminal advertising.
    Adidas have done some phenomenal advertising with the Blacks,if you’re interested you should look up the campaign where they extracted the players blood,and mixed it into the printing process and printed limited posters containing All Black’s blood.

  • Comment 74, posted at 02.09.16 12:26:59 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 74) : Are you serious? Or is that sarcastic? That would surely break some health and safety laws wouldn’t it? Except if they had it checked and passed.

  • Comment 75, posted at 02.09.16 12:29:40 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 75) : In New Zealand Health and Safety are just words…no real meaning or application

  • Comment 76, posted at 02.09.16 12:38:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • So we’ve been reduced to watching rugby for the thrill of the AB pantomime…so sad.

  • Comment 77, posted at 02.09.16 13:16:19 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 63) : it is frowned upon to be in a a pub at 9 am in some places :P i hear …

  • Comment 78, posted at 02.09.16 13:18:52 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 61) : Thankfully for AC, he has completely different directives to progressing past the qtr. finals.

    Biggest problem in our rugby, ill placed directives. Focus on quality, and graduating to the future of rugby, and everything else will come into place. Wrong priorities.

  • Comment 79, posted at 02.09.16 13:20:28 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 78) : As long as the beer is cold they can frown away…wont bother me

  • Comment 80, posted at 02.09.16 13:21:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 71) : Eina, :lol: the mystery of Ian Jones’ unique voice is being solved. Jeepers those were heady days. We had been isolated for so long that we didnt really know what to expect other than that Natal would win….and they got a smack.

  • Comment 81, posted at 02.09.16 13:22:20 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 75) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSfO8jkXZMk

  • Comment 82, posted at 02.09.16 13:42:05 by The hound Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 77) : sigh,some people must have such exciting lives,

  • Comment 83, posted at 02.09.16 14:22:45 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 82) : Very cool campaign! Just a pity for them that we spoiled it. Or France did for that matter :mrgreen: @SheldonK (Comment 80) : Man, all this talk of beer on this thread! Fuckit, I’m getting one!

  • Comment 84, posted at 02.09.16 15:05:56 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 84) : I still have an hour to go before I can have one :sad:

  • Comment 85, posted at 02.09.16 15:35:32 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 85) : Yeh snap…

  • Comment 86, posted at 02.09.16 15:36:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 85) :@SheldonK (Comment 86) : Perks of being the boss :lol:

  • Comment 87, posted at 02.09.16 15:46:52 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 87) : try being retired you can brush your teeth with it in the morning and nobody givesashit

  • Comment 88, posted at 02.09.16 15:58:19 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 88) : Rub it in :roll:

  • Comment 89, posted at 02.09.16 16:01:34 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • No Rob I thinks you should question the decision to appoint him. So should we all. We should question everything this rudder less clueless coach does.

  • Comment 90, posted at 02.09.16 16:23:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Such a big thing when Pats name was mentioned for captain. Is he so opposed to sharks that he would appoint a man who has all but resigned? And to that point, how can you expect to get the absolute best from a player that’s already out the door? Meanwhile real talent has to wait in line.

  • Comment 91, posted at 02.09.16 16:26:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 83) : Said the pensioner :twisted:

  • Comment 92, posted at 02.09.16 20:42:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 92) : As I said ,sigh, some guys just burn all the adrenalin in the world,and still have time to slum down with the likes of us chickens.Huge respect big man huge respect,thanks for looking in ..

  • Comment 93, posted at 02.09.16 20:51:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 93) : I hate the fact that opposition teams are forced to stand dead still on their own 10meter, and quietly and respectibly watch the AB’s do the haka….to me, it is now just a pantomime, there is no challenge being laid down, it is but a pre-game show….. opposition players are stupid for allowing themselves to get riled up (read suckered) by the performance….’tis but an act.

  • Comment 94, posted at 02.09.16 21:55:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • There could be a perfectly rational explanation for this. All you have to do is to not always assume the worst in others.

    AC wanted a young player as captain and had a few candidates in mind, but needed to see whom would put his hand up as both a leader and 1st choice starter.
    So he appointed someone whom he knew would retire at the end of the season as an interim captain. This avoids any awkwardness that may later result from having an ex-captain in the team.
    If a standout candidate had emerged during the Irish series, then the new captain could have been announced in conjunction with Strauss’ retirement and a spiel about him mentoring his replacement.
    Unfortunately his primary candidate was injured with ongoing uncertainty around his recovery.

  • Comment 95, posted at 02.09.16 23:33:19 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 95) : That is all well and good, but what is the point of keeping those ideas and that Strauss was only an interim captain a secret??? Why wait until now to announce his retirement at the end of the season???

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.09.16 00:47:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 96) :

    The interim captain part was never a secret.

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.09.16 04:02:33 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Handre pollard will be the future bok captain , watch the space

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.09.16 08:04:25 by John Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 97) : that’s true but you must admit this whole story just sounds a bit fishy!!! But maybe we’re looking for something that does not exist and it was just bad timing to announce it just after the lost to Argentina?!?!?!

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.09.16 08:08:49 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 94) : Pity you are too urbane and jaded to appreciate exactly what the Hakka is and see beyond the symbolism.
    When you watch the Blacks perform the Hakka they do it with a united precision,physically and mentally.
    Every player buys into it,that is the moment they become the All Blacks,and when they truely believe that they are the very best rugby team in the world.
    It is also the moment that every opponent facing them realises that they,unfortunately aren’t. .
    And I reckon that its had more successes than failures.

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.09.16 08:49:02 by The hound Reply
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  • I live in the EU so I watch all the Currie cup but also some top 14. ..my feedback Montpellier have lost the first 3 games of the season so far but Bizzie has been an animal turning ball over…still penalty prone but he still has that hunger…that animal…Frans look ok. .Big on defence. ..will see more after this weekend.

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.09.16 14:31:00 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 99) :

    It’s as fishy as you make it.

    Strauss copped a lot of flack over the Bok performance, so perhaps it is just his way of saying: “You won’t have me to kick around much longer.”
    Put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Every rugby playing boy in SA may dream of being a Bok or the Bok captain. Do you think anybody ever dream he’d be treated like this?

  • Comment 102, posted at 04.09.16 04:26:39 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 102) : as captain he will always get criticised if team does not function properly. If you can’t take it don’t take a leadership role!

  • Comment 103, posted at 04.09.16 21:57:12 by JD Reply
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