Richard Ferguson

Kings remain under control of the pauper


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :EP Kings, Original Content on 5 Sep 2016 at 10:46

The Kings remain under control of Cheeky Watson, this after a vote of no confidence failed to remove him from his power seat at the Eastern Province Rugby Union.

A vote took place on Saturday to oust Watson, with the unhappy clubs requiring a two-thirds majority vote to have Watson removed. This did not happen as they only got 52 of the required 63 votes. 40 votes were cast to keep Watson in power, 9 of those votes coming from the Executive themselves.

What this means is that the people who are being voted against, cast 9 votes to keep themselves in power. A bit of a mess if you ask me. All this while SA Rugby is actually in charge of the Union, which is under liquidation following untoward happenings resulted in the Kings running out of money. A bit of a joke isn’t it? So at the end of the day, following months of attempts to have Watson removed, he was able to vote himself into keeping his job, while the real ruler of the Union at the moment allows this. Smells like SA Rugby, doesn’t it?

The real question here is – Of the 40 votes cast to keep Watson in power, 9 came from himself and his cronies. Where did the other 31 come from? These are club executives who want to keep Watson in power? Why? He is clearly ruining their beloved province with mismanagement, yet they cannot all come together and vote to get rid of the problem.

It’s all good and well blaming SA Rugby and their administrators for the mess the Kings are in, but surely most of the blame lies with corrupt administrators and executives within the province, who worry not about the state of their province, but rather their own goodwill.



40 Comments

  • If you don’t want to get your own house in order, you’d best go play house on your own.

    The sooner the Kings are thrown out of all premier competition, the better for everyone.

    Push all the saru resources wasted on this self-loving union, into the tsietas….there will be far greater ROI for all SA.

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.09.16 10:54:25 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • nailed it Rich – well said. Come on EP, cut out the cancer.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.09.16 10:56:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 1) : 100% with you, the Cheetahs would do a hell of allot better if they got the same injection from SARU.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.09.16 10:57:21 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • This is so frustrating. I have been canvassing former PE businessmen and we have been able to identify a possible combined investment of R25m and possible further R15m from BEE partners on the following conditions:
    a)vote of no confidence succeeded
    b) entire mgmt structure replaced
    c) Jurie Roux returns the SR Franchise asset to Kings (he is currently sole director of company controlling it and thus all funds from SR rights)

    What has been most dissapointing is that we have been met by arrogance and no assistance re fin information from Kings current mgmt.

    Bloody shame

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.09.16 10:57:39 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Look, I feel most for the players within this Union.

    There must be some talent if the U19′s won the Currie Cup last year.

    But keeping that talent will not happen should things continue they way they are at the moment.

    How do keep professional players within your ranks, if you are unable to pay them. If you cannot even guarantee them a place in the Currie Cup, a week before the Currie Cup kicked off. Uncertainty will have most players opting to rather join smaller Unions and play lower level rugby, but knowing that they will actually play and not being associated with what is fast becoming a hated and unliked Union.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.09.16 10:58:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Ep rugby is its own worst enemy. people running the affairs at amateur and professional level want things better but are unwilling to make the tough decisions for that to happen. This vote shows there should be a vote of no confidence in regards to rugby in the eastern cape.

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.09.16 11:09:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 4) : so sad and I feel for every rugby supporter and player in Eastern Cape! Really hope things can change but for that the people themselves needs to stand up and kick out the rotten apples and currently there’s not enough willingness to do so! Good luck for the future but sad to say I can’t see one for your region!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.09.16 11:28:02 by JD Reply
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  • Thus just once again prove that the people running rugby in this country is more worried about what they can get than the well being of rugby!!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.09.16 11:31:10 by JD Reply
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  • We dont mind you destroying your own back alley team. We mind that you and your like are the biggest single reason Super Rugby was ruined for everyone in the southern hemisphere.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.09.16 13:18:16 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 7) : Exactly. There is enough support to resolve the financial issue for at least two years but the amateur structures are the worst enemies and I cant see a change unless SARU somehow changes its constitution allowing private majority shareholding.

    One family has destroyed any tradition left and killed the future through own greed and power need.

    I still believe this was a great investment opportunity as where else will you SR level exposure for such a price?

    Seems the horse had bolted

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.09.16 13:18:44 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Seems like between them the Sharks, Free State, WP, Lions and Bulls have managed to register 31 clubs in the EPRU. Its called divide and rule (or get 1st pick at promising, disheartened players). :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.09.16 13:22:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 10) : yes can’t see anyone investing in EP rugby unless management change and seemingly some clubs are happy for things to remain the same!?!?!?

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.09.16 13:32:50 by JD Reply
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  • 40 – 9 = 31. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.09.16 13:32:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 11) : how can other unions register clubs down there?

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.09.16 13:33:43 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 14) : Im just taking the piss. The only ones to benefit from having this bloke running the show at EP rugby are all other SA unions, the bigger ones especially so Im just making a play on those supporting Watson must actually be doing so at the bidding of the bigger unions because as sure as hell they arent doing it for the benefit of EP rugby.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.09.16 13:40:14 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 13) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : hahahaha ja OK. Just wonder if the players of those 31 clubs know that their bosses voted for things to remain the same!?!?!?

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.09.16 13:49:10 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 16) : Only way for the situation to get any credibility back was for both Watson and Crause (ceo) to step down before vote but alas.

    There is no rugby reason for what happened so Cheeky’s reign is looking more like Geoffrey in GOT!

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.09.16 14:00:50 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 1) : That’s a great idea! The Cheetahs would at least use the money to improve their union, not waste it. I think with them providing a solid stream of players year in year out, they deserve it a lot more than anyone else. Plus then we would have 5 very competitive units in the SR.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.09.16 14:19:26 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 17) : he will never step down only way to seemingly get rid of him is for all sponsors (including Metro and SARU) to stop sponsoring and giving money to EP rugby. Sorry to say but only way for clubs to change is to feel the pain of not getting anything from them. Rugby will have to die before it can pick up again!

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.09.16 15:43:49 by JD Reply
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  • But wait a moment. Were they not liquidated a few weeks ago?
    How can a liquidated union vote for a President. How can they have Executives? Should they not rather be Executors?

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.09.16 16:20:01 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 20) : I smell the Guptas in this Cheeky looks like the typeof partner they solicit.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.09.16 16:30:25 by The hound Reply
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  • What about a brand new union being established? Else the only option is to starve them out. SARU removes them from supers and maybe even CC. Other unions snap up their players. Can’t play rugby without players and games and without those you a only have a union in name. Clubs will start to leave and then it will be a perfect opportunity to establish a new Eastern Province union. They can keep their silly name as well.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.09.16 18:07:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 20) : @The hound (Comment 21) : seemingly in SA rugby anything is possible!!!

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.09.16 19:18:26 by JD Reply
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  • Only way to affect change is to vote with our feet/eyes/time….refuse to watch any games being played by the Kings. The boycott from their own supporters has not convinced the money grabbing thieves, now it’s time for a total Kings blackout.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.09.16 20:09:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 24) : already happening. just looked at figures as part of our proposal and in first SR participation the average attendance > 30000 per game and this year <2500.

    CC worse and no suite holder I have spoken to are renewing. Game day atmosphere is bad and forced to use stadium vendor catering at R250 pp.

    We have to sign a NDA to get more info re financials and plans so it means there is major shite.

    Ad much as it pains me, the death of the union is only way

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.09.16 21:42:04 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 25) : …what I’m looking for is zero attendance for Kings games all over the country. When unions lose out on spectator revenue for hosting the Kings, major change will quickly come about.

    Supposedly the unions own saru, so they would be able to put pressure on saru to stop the Kings free ride.

    Also, switch channel or turn off the TV when Kings play Sharks (for instance). Kings is a symptom of every thing wrong with SA rugby, we want to save our rugby, it starts by not accepting what’s happening at the Kings….it is in the best interest of every supporter in SA.

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.09.16 21:51:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Sad thing is there are so many great players coming from that region.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.09.16 06:59:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 26) : yes

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.09.16 07:05:52 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @Kabouter (Comment 25) : Unfortunately the death of the union is seemingly the only way to get them just hope the clubs that voted for them die with them!!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.09.16 08:14:24 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 26) : Agreed.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.09.16 08:34:12 by Quintin Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 28) : @Quintin (Comment 30) : Guess it starts with the 3 of us.

    #BoycottKingsOfCorruption

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.09.16 12:45:26 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : will also buy into #BoycottKingsOfCorruption !!!

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.09.16 13:28:50 by JD Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : I would also sign up. But do you think a sharks forum is the correct place or platform to reach kings supporters from?

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.09.16 06:45:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 33) : I guess we need to reach supporters all over SA….so let’s start by turning off the tv/switching channel whenever the Kings play the Sharks.

    Get our union to realise that we won’t show up to KP when the Kings play there, and we won’t tune in when the Kings play the Sharks.

    Twitter is probably the preferred platform for stirring these days….but we’d need one of the twitter regulars to buy into this – notch-notch, wink-wink Rob (not Houwing). :smile:

    “Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” – #BoycottKingsOfCorruption

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.09.16 07:05:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • The twitter feed sounds like a good medium. You must also maybe have the ability to state your case in a shortish write up so people can read your argument. So maybe coupled by a facebook page or article. Who knows you may even get a couple of players to read and comment.

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.09.16 16:45:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • guys – this site is not the correct place for this discussion, so please take it elsewhere and leave me out of it. Thanks

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.09.16 16:47:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Jammer oom…thought I managed to stay within site rules and policy, but I accept your “ruling”.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.09.16 17:25:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 37) : no, it’s not really that you contravened an existing rule. This is a new one… :mrgreen: :mrgreen: . I don’t agree with this plan and I don’t want to be involved in it. Simple as that really.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.09.16 18:19:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : “Site Rules and Policies Amendment 2016: No hashtag movements will be permitted on Sharksworld” :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.09.16 06:17:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 39) : hahaha ja boet old rules was getting boring so it was time to add a new one ;-)

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