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Flyhalf change for struggling under 21s


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 9 Sep 2016 at 10:32
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With yet more injuries suffered at training this week, the Sharks under 21 side have been bolstered, at least, by the timely return to fitness of Junior Bok utility back Benhard Janse van Rensburg, who will start at flyhalf against the Cheetahs tomorrow.

Janse van Rensburg joined the Sharks this year from the Leopards, but has not seen action due to injury. He comes in to replace the unlucky Ruben de Vos, who suffered a serious knee injury this week. Other changes to the backline see Marcel Coetzee (no relation) and Morne Joubert come in at wing for Sbu Nkosi and Malcolm Cele.

Up front, Ayron Schramm returns and will start in the unfamiliar number 7 jersey, with the man who wore it last week, Namibian Johannes Retief, moving into a makeshift second row. Kyle Hatherell comes in for injured Hyron Andrews in his first start of the season, while the front row is unchanged.

Sharks under 21: 15. Kelvin Elder, 14.Marcel Coetzee, 13. Tristan Blewett, 12. Marius Louw, 11. Morne Joubert, 10. Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 9. Damian Stevens, 8. Michael Meyer, 7. Ayron Schramm, 6. Kerron Van Vuuren, 5. Kyle Hatherell, 4. Johannes Retief, 3. Mthunzi Moloi, 2. Andrew Du Plessis, 1. Mzamo Majola (Captain)
Replacements:16. Erich Kankowski, 17. Ngoni Chidoma, 18. Ruan Kramer, 19. Bandisa Ndlovu, 20. Jaywinn Juries, 21. Jasper Genis, 22. Danrich Visagie

The under 19s also face Free State on Saturday. Bubele Gonqa starts at hooker for Sam Swanepoel in the only change to Paul Anthony’s starting team this week.

Sharks under 19: 15. Donovan du Randt, 14. Mfundo Ndhlovu, 13. James Tedder, 12. Taigh Schoor, 11. Ilunga Mukendi, 10. Gareth Simpson, 9. Francois de Villiers, 8. Mthokozisi Ntuli, 7. Cornelius Otto, 6. Andre Coetzee, 5. Andrew Evans, 4. Clifferd Jacobs, 3. Khuthazani Mchunu (Captain), 2. Bubele Gonqa, 1. Christopher Klopper
Replacements: 16. Samuel Swanepoel, 17. Jordan Els, 18. Muammir Salie, 19. Marco Ian Koen, 20. Gustav Kirstein, 21. Migcobo Bovu, 22. Khali Koetzenberg, 23. William Squires



30 Comments

  • Rob is that a relation of yours in the no.7 jersey for the u19s?
    I hope Janse Van Rensburg has a good game as i think he has serious potential, hope he is actually fully fit as well. Schramm at 7 is interesting- he is very similar player to Tera Mthembu

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.09.16 10:35:47 by SheldonK Reply
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  • Good luck guys!!! Enjoy the games!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.09.16 11:41:46 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : nope, also no relation :)

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.09.16 11:41:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : are you sure?

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.09.16 11:43:03 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 4) : yeah, pretty sure.

    I actually have very few relatives with the same surname. My dad has 3 sisters and no brothers.

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.09.16 11:43:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : Its ok if you claim him as a relative if he has a good game ;)

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.09.16 11:44:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : I think at this stage of his career, Schramm is better suited to 8, he prefers space to the tight phases, so tomorrow will be a big test for him. He will need to play a far tighter game than what he is used to playing.

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.09.16 11:56:08 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : OK just checking ;-)

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.09.16 11:58:31 by JD Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 7) : You dont reckon we could see a switch with Meyer actually playing 7 and Schramm scrumming etc at 8? Think the switch would suit each better

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.09.16 12:05:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) : Not from what I heard – he really needs to lead this weekend, he is in charge of all line out calls, scrum calls and will be expected to be their main ball carrier – here’s the problem, he is not match fit!!! I feel for them, so many quality players all out at the same time. On a positive note, we get to see what Benhard can do, I do not know much about him at all.

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.09.16 12:19:10 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 10) : Not a great sign that a flank is calling the lineouts. I think the whole system around these u21 sides need to be looked at. I mean there is a hooker on the other flank! I havnt a large amount of Van Rensburg but what i have seen is a guy that likes to play flat and attack the line and isnt afraid of contact. He also has a fairly big boot. Not sure what his goal kicking is like though. If Botha is fit surely Droste will drop down to the u21s then which will help them?

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.09.16 12:23:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 11) : Droste is not u21.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.09.16 12:27:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Ah ok…another of those inbetweeners then

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.09.16 12:31:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : yeah. you can check out the squad here: http://www.sharksworld.co.za/ccsquad/

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.09.16 12:59:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Shot Rob. Hmm i wonder how much longer guys like Ndungane, Claasens, Daniel and Deysel will play…all over 30 now

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.09.16 13:09:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : @robdylan (Comment 14) : Ja Jean was part of the u21 squad last year and is only just 22, so I would not say an inbetweener, still very young with huge promise. They need Schramm calling the lineouts as there is no one else who can, the job would normally be for Hyron and Wian, both of whom are injured – so the second row are a bit stuffed with regards to knowing the calls etc

    I think that they must just give the ball air tomorrow and forget too much about structure, I think the tight five are in for a tough game, which means the entire side is in for a tough game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.09.16 13:26:28 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 16) : When i say inbetweener i mean he forms part of that contracted group that arent eligible for age group rugby and arent part of the elite super rugby squad. And i feel the sharks have too many players in that inbetweener group on their books.

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.09.16 13:30:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 17) : They do have a few and they are bound to lose a view, it is just a matter of trying to identify who will be world class in the future, not all players develop the same and some will be world beaters between 24-27 yrs old, much like a Duane Vermeulen. But it is a tough ask to keep everyone happy.

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.09.16 14:06:09 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @Vonno13 (Comment 18) : Very tough task indeed. I said to Rob on another thread that i feel the Shark should move towards contracting only age group players and then elite super rugby players with the CC being a mix match of the two…with some club players if required. Just feel there are too may on the books adding no real value and not producing anything as we saw in CC qualifying

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.09.16 14:13:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : we have thrown away a fair few guys in that 22-24 age bracket that have gone on to be very good elsewhere.

    Look at 50% of the Lions side, for instance. Redelinghuys, Whiteley, Cronje, Mnisi….

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.09.16 14:29:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : The problem with the CC Qualifiers, is that the players do nto get up for the game, what are they playing for, essentially nothing. So a lot of the players just go through the motions as opposed to playing with real pride – how you change that mind-set I do not know. It comes down to the amount of rugby being played, it seems that especially amongst the youngsters, the pride of pulling on a provincial jersey losses its appeal, especially as most have been used to wearing the jersey from u13 through the ranks. I mean the common answer I got on a recent trip up to Durban, when I asked a few of the guys if they know how lucky they are to be wearing a provincial jersey and getting paid to play, the response is generally, ‘ I guess so ‘ Not like the older generation anymore, not sure they have as much pride.

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.09.16 14:33:13 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Exactly Rob and that is why I am saying you need to identify players that will come through, maybe not at 21 or 22, but at 23/24 etc some players are late bloomers, their bodies develop later, so you need to find out what the player can offer. I mean, the Bulls thought Johan Janse Van Rensburg was one dimensional, how ironic from the Bulls, and look at him now with the Lions. You need an eye for talent and I think this is essential in terms of long term goals.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.09.16 14:35:58 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : @Vonno13 (Comment 21) : It is a tough ask, i mean of those guys mentioned i cant remember 1 ever do anything good in a sharks jersey at any level? We cant retain everyone and hope they come good. Perhaps we are then carrying too much at the top level which would allow us to then contract more promising talent ( im talking guys no longer u21 here). I mean no offense to them but take guys like Alrin Eksteen, Neil Maritz, Jean Droste etc….all on some form of contracts but how much value have they given the Sharks or continue to give the Sharks? If the answer is a lot of value then is that value more than any of the “elite” guys? If so that elite guy should be let go. I just feel the Sharks are hanging onto to much average which doesnt help on the off field financials and on field results.

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.09.16 14:42:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : The three names mentioned above are all very young, just out of u21 rugby – I would be looking more towards the likes of guys around the 25-26 yr old age that are not making the standard. It is such a tough balancing act as there is always so much talent coming through. Personally, I have no idea what is up with Maritz not being picked, did he get injured? He was very good when he did play and apparently after initially not being signed, has now signed a big contract – but why is he not playing? Jean is a very versatile lock, much in the mould of Lewies and can add a lot to the Sharks going forward. Eksteen, I would pack my bags and go, Bosch and Smit seem to be the number 1 and 2 fullback and he needs game time, so ja, I would duck in his case. But then again, who says he will not be great in the next year or two.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.09.16 15:11:26 by Vonno13 Reply
     
  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : to be fair all of them showed potential as youngsters but could not dislodge Shark regulars. Only starting to deliver on there potential when the got regular game time at Lions.

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.09.16 15:17:08 by JD Reply
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  • @Vonno13 (Comment 24) : Yeh fair point you make about perhaps culling the guys in the 24+ category. As you say its a tough balancing act. I also thought Maritz was good when he played- he got involved, ran hard etc. Just seems there is a pecking order at the sharks and that is followed no matter what. And that does have merit to an extent.

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.09.16 15:24:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 25) : It did also take them a couple years of that regular game time for them to finally produce good performances consistently. A lot of people still think that all the Lions players are instant success stories

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.09.16 15:26:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 27) : for sure! Point is there’s for sure players that could have turned out to be top quality if they had a chance to play and work on their game. Unfortunately live does not work like that and some times players sit behind giants like JS and Bissy and just never get that chance.

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.09.16 15:36:57 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 28) : Very much so. Also different players thrive in different environments because they are more comfortable and get on better with fellow players etc.

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.09.16 15:42:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : yes very true.

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.09.16 15:45:16 by JD Reply
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