Richard Ferguson

Lambie leads from pivot


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :End of Year Tour, Original Content, Springboks on 3 Nov 2016 at 15:04
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The Springbok team to face the Barbarians at Wembley on Saturday has been announced, with Pat Lambie leading the team from flyhalf with a very exciting backline to feed.

The team has only 6 uncapped players in the starting team, with a further three debutants on the bench.

Rudy Paige is Lambie’s halfback partner and Jesse Kriel starts at fullback, and that is where the experience ends. Rohan Janse van Rensburg and Francois Venter combine for a very exciting midfield partnership, while there is equal excitement about Sergeal Petersen and Jamba Ulengo starting on the wings.

There is a bit of experience amongst the tight five with Beast Mtawarira and Lourens Adriaanse in the front row sandwich with Malcolm Marx. SA Rugby Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit gets to do duty in the second row, with RG Snyman his partner in crime.

The loose trio is made up of Roelof Smith, Oupa Mohoje and Nizaam Carr, and it will be interesting to see how they go considering the loose forward stocks going into the English game a week later.

The bench sees Bongi Mbonambi, Lizo Gqoboka and Trevor Nyakane cover the front row. Plenty of experience in Eben Etzebeth covering the second row and green horn Jean-Luc du Preez covering the loose trio. The backline spots go to Piet van Zyl, Tiaan Schoeman and Ruan Combrinck, who comes back from an injury lay-off.

South Africa: 15 Jesse Kriel, 14 Sergeal Petersen, 13 Francois Venter, 12 Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Patrick Lambie (captain), 9 Rudy Paige, 8 Nizaam Carr, 7 Oupa Mohoje, 6 Roelof Smit, 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Lourens Adriaanse, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Eben Etzebeth, 20 Jean-Luc du Preez, 21 Piet van Zyl, 22 Tian Schoeman, 23 Ruan Combrinck.



68 Comments

  • I truly believe this is one of the better Bok sides put out on paper this year. I really like the combos.
    Only questions are how quickly will they gel and then also- how many of this team have played in the UK before?

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.11.16 15:09:22 by SheldonK Reply
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  • That backline excites me. The front row is solid and with PSDT there we shouldn’t have a problem in the second row. The loosies look a bit light to me but this is possibly the most excited I’ve been about the Boks this year.

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.11.16 15:12:39 by Hulk Reply
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  • So the following players go on tour to play the Barbarians only, and don’t get a spot in the match 23:

    Uzair Cassiem
    Thomas du Toit
    Cheslin Kolbe

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.11.16 15:21:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : Least Munster save on DuToit’s plane ticket ;)

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.11.16 15:26:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : I fail to understand the logic behind this? :?: :|

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.11.16 15:30:23 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 3) : @SheldonK (Comment 4) : need to take some extra players to ensure you can have 23 players for the game.

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.11.16 15:30:31 by JD Reply
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  • I love that backline, Wish Reinach was at 9 then give them the freedom to run and play whats in front of them

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.11.16 15:35:12 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I think they could have rested Beast and start Lizo with du Toit on the bench. Vice versa.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.11.16 15:35:50 by Another Nick Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 6) :

    Don’t agree with you..

    They have an entire squad going over for one game, and then some player staying Surely your thinking will be that everybody gets a run. du Toit in for Beast? Cassiem in for Mohoje and Kolbe in for Kriel?

    All players get a run without having to change a single thing?

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.11.16 15:44:56 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I seriously cant see the point of playing Beast in this match?

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.11.16 15:45:52 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : Hardly think you should be looking for logic when evaluating squad selections at this point.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.11.16 15:47:06 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : I would agree with you there

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.11.16 15:48:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 11) :

    Valid point..

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.11.16 15:50:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • In terms of “building” it does offer some hope and this is a team we should build on…I wonder if they are conditioned well enough and are fit enough to do what feel on the pitch. Good luck boyz…it would great for an emphatic statement if we win well.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.11.16 16:02:19 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 10) : I agree, his workload this year has been unbelievable, as Sharks cappy, he played almost all of every match in SR, then started all the Bok matches, and people criticize him because he is not as prominant in play as he has in the past. He is still by far the best Bok LH, but needs rest badly. Would have liked to see Thomas get some time off the bench at 1, but I suppose they no longer see him as a 1.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.11.16 16:46:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 4) : Look, I think the fact he is already there was a huge factor in bringing him into the squad. Still would have liked to see him get some game time.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.11.16 16:48:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : @Hulk (Comment 11) : @SheldonK (Comment 12) : not saying I’m agreeing with the selection of Beast and Mohoje for this game but I’m sure that will be the answer that AC will give. Personally I’d like to have seen Thomas start and would have had Cassiem on the whole tour in the place of Mohoje.

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.11.16 17:15:09 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 17) : Sometimes I try to think along the lines of AC’s thoughts…….I usually end up with a headache. ;-) :twisted:

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.11.16 17:17:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 17) : I do however believe Beast will be the first choice LH at the next world cup, so he is certainly someone you can build a team around, but he badly needs the rest (even though one more week is not nearly enough, he should have been rested for this tour). We have seen what Mohoje has to offer, his effort and enthusiasm is excellent so we have seen the best he can offer, why not give JLdP a chance to show what he can offer, in an essentially meaningless match. In the same way he has given this centre pairing a chance.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.11.16 17:25:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 19) : I think a lesson should be learned from how Jake White managed Os du Randt during the lead up to the 2007 RWC, with the result Os being a stalwart for the team, playing almost every minute of every match at the RWC. Beast should be managed similarly leading to the RWC, and let him shine in his farewell RWC.

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.11.16 17:28:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 18) : ja that’s like trying to figure out how woman think……… live is just to short to try to understand it! ;-)

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.11.16 17:32:39 by JD Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 19) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 20) : must agree with you but can’t see it happening as I think AC is very desperate and will pick the “stalwarts” every time they’re available!

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.11.16 17:35:11 by JD Reply
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  • While I understand the sentiment expressed above, I also think that the scheduling of this you, with a Baabaas game first without a full strength side before the full strength side then has to go straight into a Twickenham Test, is just not ideal. AC is almost having to give guys like Beast, PSdT, Mohoje and co a run as preparation before England. If Beast doesn’t play he goes into the England game cold after 5 weeks of no rugby. Nowadays that’s almost an entire off season… :o I have some sympathy for him…

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.11.16 18:22:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Hypothetically…the “young guns” vs Babaas game shows the young bloods with tons of potential and they hammer the babaas…do we just chuck em out and go with the tried tested loser team? I dont mean to sound negative but this young team has some potential and what if…

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.11.16 18:55:05 by Sharkfinn Reply

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  • @Sharkfinn (Comment 24) : think the decision is already made so no matter what happens they youngsters will go home.

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.11.16 20:13:19 by JD Reply
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  • @Sharkfinn (Comment 24) : @JD (Comment 25) : To be fair, 12 of this starting XV and 6 of the 8 replacements are staying on no matter what…so there will not be that many going home either way. Your scenario will just make the selection for the England game very interesting…

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.11.16 21:04:40 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 26) : basically only 8 guys going home?

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.11.16 07:15:17 by JD Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 2) : 1 player in the back line played SR QF . (given Lambie was injured )

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.11.16 08:12:04 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 28) : Obviously Coetzee does not think SR is an accurate format to judge form. The CC on the other hand…… :twisted:

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.11.16 08:20:37 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 29) : haha . what ever comp the Lions perform in is not good enougth it seems :P :lol:

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.11.16 08:34:05 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Is it just me or does the lock combo of PSDT and Snyman excite me more than PSDT and Etzebeth? Also the centres Van Rensburg and Venter excite me more than any other combo ive seen in the last 2 years for the Boks.

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.11.16 08:41:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 31) : Lock combo no, granted I don’t know much about Snyman so that’s probably it.

    The centres yes, but all our other options have been poor this year. So this can only be better.

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.11.16 08:52:36 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 32) : have to agree with you about Snyman . it seems forced that we should be excited about him . He needs to prove himself first .

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.11.16 09:10:22 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 32) : @Zibbie (Comment 33) : He has impressed me for the Bulls and then his performance in the SA A Side. So lets see if he can produce in a Bok shirt. He has massive potential and reminds me a lot of Matfield

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.11.16 09:17:34 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : Agree with you really like this guy he has a bit of Bakkies and a bit of Victor.
    Ethebeth has been a shadow of himself this season,almost Spies like in his loss of performance.

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.11.16 09:24:01 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 34) : we still waiting for the chosen onces , Jesse Kriel en Pollard to give a consistent good performance

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.11.16 09:27:37 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 36) : I think both of them have shown patches of really good play so now just need to be consistent. Think Kriel needs to stay at fullback though and Pollard at 10 or 12. I dont think anyone in SA rugby has been consistently good though

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.11.16 09:35:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : I saw Snyman play at school and was very interested to see how he would develop as had massive potential. I think if he stays injury free and keeps learning he could be very good.

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.11.16 09:37:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : yes true . But there was an expectation created . People were excited by both those players .

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.11.16 09:40:23 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 39) : I dont see why we shouldnt be excited bout them and others coming through. There is a lot of talent that just needs to be channeled correctly

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.11.16 10:05:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 35) : That is a very accurate comparison. With Etzebeth I expected him to take over Bakkies role but he loses his physicality far to easily during tight games. A strong fired up Etzebeth is good for the Boks and the PSDT & Etzebeth combo in my opinion is probably one of the strongest (possibly 2nd) in the world.

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.11.16 10:07:49 by Hulk Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 40) : Because we then focus only on the players we are excite about . when fit they HAVE to start . Cause maybe the next test the will deliver . We are never willing to dim the excitement .

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.11.16 10:15:12 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 42) : I do get your point about unfaltering faith in hyped up players but i think we are perhaps a bit quick to judge a player in this country, especially one that is a bit hyped up but perhaps not from our favourite team or bunch of players. Also interesting what some fans consider ‘delivering’…

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.11.16 10:20:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 43) : ja that’s the thing everyone will have their “favourite” player(s) so will be a bit “soft” on them. Other players (especially those that keep our favourites out of the team) will be judged with a sharper eye! Human nature as we can’t all agree on things.

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.11.16 10:45:11 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 44) : Too true indeed.

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.11.16 10:47:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • My alterations from Baabaas lineup to test lineup:
    South Africa: 15 Jesse Kriel, 14 Ruan Combrinck, 13 Francois Venter, 12 Ruan Janse van Rensburg, 11 Brian Habana, 10 Patrick Lambie (captain), 9 Rudy Paige, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Oupa Mohoje, 6 Roelof Smit, 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Lourens Adriaanse, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

    Replacements: 16. Adriaan Strauss, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Eben Etzebeth, Jean-Luc du Preez, 21 Faf De Klerk, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Johan Goosen.

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.11.16 10:52:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • How Piet van Zyl still makes the squad is a mystery.

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.11.16 11:29:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 46) : I’ll take that deal. If you swop goosen for kriel and Pietersen for Habana. Or even Petersen.

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.11.16 11:31:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 48) : I could live with that :)

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.11.16 12:01:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 48) : If you want the best out of Goosen, play him at 10 for an extended run.
    Yes he can be good at 13/15, but he can be a great at 10

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.11.16 12:16:12 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 50) : The problem is how often will he play 10 during the year? Only Bok games and perhaps the odd game for his club. Should we not want the Bok 10 playing 10 more often than not during the year

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.11.16 12:22:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 50) : @SheldonK (Comment 51) : that’s the problem with players playing abroad. No common goal to work for so thay will only play a player how and where it’s best for them!

  • Comment 52, posted at 04.11.16 12:54:55 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 52) : Why else would you spend all that money on a player but to play him where its best for you.
    Cant blame the overseas club for that.

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.11.16 13:38:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 53) : Would you have gone with anyone different for this Baabaas game based on who is there for the game personnel wise?

  • Comment 54, posted at 04.11.16 13:49:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • i would have started Combrink,instead of Ulengo,Would have played Cassim instead of Mohojo,and had Goosen at 15 instead of Kriel,,Beast is also a joke, by now we know what he can do, would have given Thomas or Dylan Smith a shot there.Same thinking with Kriel and Mohojo,with all the game time they have had they have been seriously underwhelming.

  • Comment 55, posted at 04.11.16 14:10:52 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 55) : Goosen cant play because he has an oversees contract

  • Comment 56, posted at 04.11.16 14:17:23 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 55) : @Zibbie (Comment 56) : Yeh look barring the Goosen not being available and Smith being injured i would agree

  • Comment 57, posted at 04.11.16 14:36:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 57) : And I would have started Jean Luc instead of Carr,just so he could get in Robert’s face from the get go and put him off his game.

  • Comment 58, posted at 04.11.16 14:39:28 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 58) : I have this feeling that JL Dup will sub with Roelof Smit during the game. He should in theory sub for Mahoje but just a feeling

  • Comment 59, posted at 04.11.16 14:44:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 59) : Yes I agree

  • Comment 60, posted at 04.11.16 14:58:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 53) : not saying the clubs are wrong it’s just another plus for picking only local players as the local team coaches will rest and play players more in line with the idea of the national coach.

  • Comment 61, posted at 04.11.16 16:08:56 by JD Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 50) : Still think him and Lambie on a tb the same time will give us a wide range of attacking options. Especially with Combrincks boot on the wing.

  • Comment 62, posted at 04.11.16 18:58:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 62) : Not that I have anything against kriel, but I don’t expect fireworks from him Goosen on the other hand can give us that especially if things are firing around him.

  • Comment 63, posted at 04.11.16 19:04:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 63) : not sure about that as Goosen did not really provide any fireworks thus far!?!?!?

  • Comment 64, posted at 04.11.16 19:52:30 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 64) : He was playing as FB, in a new setup. It will take time to gel with your mates. That said he was one of the few boks that was prepared to have a go. He made the most attacking meters of all the bok backs in the matches he played, and scored the most points.

    Goosen on form is a delight. His exploits in his debut Super rugby season was a glimpse of what he is capable of, when given the freedom to play. Ditto when he made his debut for the boks at FH. He was a breathe of fresh air, even back then.

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.11.16 08:30:25 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 52) : True. Goosen is too good to leave out. So with Dan Carter there, they play him at FB or 13. With Carter injured, Goosen is back at 10. He often shifts to FH during the matches anyway.

    He was duly recognised by his peers with the Top 14 Player of the Year Award.

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.11.16 08:42:36 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 66) : Imagine, and I do stress imagine,,Lambie at 10,Pollard at 12,and Goosen at 13,all fit and firing.

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.11.16 09:11:55 by The hound Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 65) : @KingCheetah (Comment 66) : yes Goosen is a good player and is performing for his club. Just did not see that in the Bokke setup. That said don’t think any player performed for the Bokke this year so let’s see what they can do on the tour!?!?
    Personally I think Goosen should play 10 and stick to it but like you said club will use him were they need him.

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