Richard Ferguson

Further injury losses for Boks


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :End of Year Tour, Original Content, Springboks on 8 Nov 2016 at 08:48
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Roelof Smit is the upteenth flanker to be ruled out of the End of Year Tour, following an injury picked up at training yesterday.

Smit tore a pectoral muscle during training on Monday and will be replaced in the squad by Uzair Cassiem. Cassiem was in the squad for the match against the Barbarians but was not selected in the match 23. He has since returned home and will be on he next flight back to the UK.

Smit joins Francois Louw, Jaco Kriel and Marcell Coetzee on the injured list, while Heinrich Brussow and Schalk Burger are both unavailable for selection. It does open the door for the new faces in the tour group to stake a claim.

In other injury news, there is speculation around the availability of Bryan Habana for this weekend’s clach after he picked up an injury on Sunday. According to the press release he is unlikely to take part this weekend.

Other players who sat out the training session with minor niggles were Pieter-Steph du Toit, Vincent Koch, Willie le Roux and JP Pietersen. Wing Ruan Combrinck completed the training session without difficulty.



106 Comments

  • Too much rugby by chance? I love it but a body can take so much

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.11.16 09:25:05 by Sharkfinn Reply
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  • This leaves the Boks without a genuine option at openside. I see England winning a lot of turnovers at the breakdown. Cassiem is a blindside and therefore not a like-for-like replacement for Smit. I do rate him above Oupa though!

    The Boks should have called up Kwagga. I would have loved to have seen Brussow called up. Pity he isn’t available.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.11.16 09:36:22 by ChrisS Reply
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  • More and more likely to go to bash it up rugby and start with Alberts…

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.11.16 09:46:49 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I doubt Roelof Smit would have played this weekend anyway so not a massive blow. I think JL DuPreez or Nizaam Carr will play 6

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.11.16 09:55:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 4) : Jaques du Plessis would also be a good call.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.11.16 09:59:34 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 4) :

    Most likely Carr to play, I hear..

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.11.16 09:59:52 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 6) : He has played 6 for WP so i expect so.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.11.16 10:19:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 5) : At lock or flank?

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.11.16 10:19:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 8) : Flank,that kid is only 23,and will be the next CJ Stander,but capped for France not Ireland.
    The guy has been playing high level European rugby the whole year, he is in a much better state of mind to play a test in Europe than Carr.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.11.16 10:27:34 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 8) : What happened to Arno Botha,he was touted as the new Schalk Burger,and at the time most Bulls fans dismissed Stander leaving as not a big deal because they had Arno.
    Stander has proved to be a huge loss.

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.11.16 10:33:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 9) : Im still undecided on flank or lock for him. Always thought he could be a good mobile lock and think he often partners Willemse at lock for Montpelier. Speaking of Willemse…would love to see him get a run.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.11.16 10:34:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 10) : Arno Botha played CC and is slowly starting to put in some consistent rugby. I think his knee injuries have meant his chances of playing top flight rugby again are gone. He is a good player but i dont think he will be international quality again. Also rememeber CJ Stander was the reason Marcel Coetzee was left out of the u20 SA side- think they should have taken both. A loose trio of Stander, Coetzee and Botha would have been immense

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.11.16 10:44:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 11) : We have so many good locks in this country,I think PSDT is the best but don’t think Esterbeth is the second,I would rate a fit Lewies ahead of him ,I agree with you on Willemse but think the next big thing is the RG Snyman.

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.11.16 10:46:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 13) : I rate RG Snyman, i think if he keeps learning he can be very good. I agree we do have a lot of good locks and perhaps not so many good 6,7,8.
    Although i think there are a good few combos we could field that would be better than those currently picked. I mean just off the top of my head you could have 4. PSDT 5. Snyman 6. Coetzee 7. Vermuelen 8. Whiteley or even 4. Etzebeth 5. Lewies 6. Kriel 7. DuPreez 8. Van Der Walt

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.11.16 10:58:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : Thats why its such a shame that our looses got pulverized on the week end the combination Coetzee fielded was probably the weakest one he could have chosen,Carr is far too light and Mahoje just doesn’t have the skill to play at this level.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.11.16 11:07:08 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : And the other guy apart from looking like Reuben Kruger did sweet FA

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.11.16 11:08:34 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 16) : I thought the whole loose trio were poor on Saturday. The front row also didnt contribute at ruck/tackle time. Marx almost looked scared to play against Akker- perhaps he knew from Lions training

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.11.16 11:10:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 17) : I thought Ethebeth was dog shite when he came on, standing around glaring andflexing his muscles and doing his best Pierre Spies imitation

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.11.16 11:20:54 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 18) : The lineouts definitely suffered when Marx and Snyman went off and Mbonambi and Etzebeth came on. Etzebeth seems to be trying to hard. Id prefer Snyman and PSDT. Id take Etzebeth over Lood though currently

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.11.16 11:27:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Cat amongst the pigeons time. Why is everyone forgetting Keegan or everyone’s favourite- Brynard. Both are 6′s & I would rate them both over whatever stocks we have left. Why not call Schalk Brits or Craig Burden to play at 6? :grin: Seriously, Marcel (when fit) & Kwagga are our best bets for 6 at present.I have to put in my R10′s worth about another position where we are struggling.Scrumhalf. Claasens seems to be the best bet to play in England as he has done so for many years. IMO, Faf,Paige & van Zyl will struggle.One hit wonders!Should have asked Akker to stay & cover all positions as he did on Saturday for Baabaas. :smile: Here’s hoping AC gets the the right combo’s for Saturday & I don’t mean ribs & wings from a fast food outlet!!!!

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.11.16 11:27:41 by markm Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 20) : Eish seeing some of your selection proposals means i should give AC more credit as its not as easy and clear as i think it is.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.11.16 11:37:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 20) : I can’t ever remember a Faf/Lambie combination and I would be keen to see it,I think your other suggestions are wishful thinking,Coetzee will never play Keegan or Burden,he might play Schalk Brits but only at 2.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.11.16 11:38:48 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 21) : :lol: @The hound (Comment 22) : :grin: We all live in hope.Remember hope deferred leads to a sick heart :mrgreen: Can you imagine what a brilliant team we would have if things were done democratically & not autocratically as they are being done now? This is where my comment above about hope comes in. You can’t pick someone (without prejudice or merit),let them play & HOPE they improve.It’s like buying an Asian vehicle & driving it in the hope of it becoming a Europen vehicle. A bit simplistic but it’s like playing Oupa & hoping he comes PSDT,Hooper,Pocock or Read! :lol:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.11.16 11:58:02 by markm Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 23) : Picking the Bok team democratically could be a very interesting venture…very interesting indeed.
    If i look at the team that played on Sat:
    The front row scrummed and mauled well- they could have added more at ruck/tackle time however but overall fairly happy with that combo.
    The locks did pretty well- a couple lost balls in contact but generally good.
    The loose trio- they were poor, no defensive impact, no interplay, just looked very off.
    9 & 10 – thought they did alright. Lambie’s goal kicking wasnt great and id like to see him play closer to the 9 and not so far away but overall thought went ok for the little ball they had.
    The Centres- thought they were good. Yes perhaps a couple defensive alignment issues but overall better and a bigger threat than anything we have seen this year.
    Back 3- good on attack and horrible on defense pretty much sums it up

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.11.16 12:04:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 24) : Loose trio didn’t even turn up (IMO)!Lambie played pretty clever rugby & needed a Reinach or Claasens or even a Ross Cronje with a longer pass & better decision making.Agreed about back 3. Ulengo,Peterson & Kriel were out of sorts on defence. Combrinck didn’t make that much difference.Who will make a difference?Don’t rate le Roux this year, Habana past his sell-by date,Dunno. :?:

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.11.16 12:22:29 by markm Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 25) : I really didnt think Paige or VAn Zyl played badly. They got to the breakdowns pretty quick and just cleared the ball to Lambie. I cant remember any wayward passes that De Klerk tends to throw so really think the 9s did what was required of them- thats get the ball to the 10. Lambie was almost standing in the 12 channel…possibly why him and Van Rensburg clashed a couple times. Lambie needs to play a lot closer to the 9 in order to both stop the opposition loosies but also allow his 12&13 more space and time. Eng will have seen Saturdays game and if Lambie line sup the same they will rush up and i can almost put money on a run away try being scored due to a dropped ball under pressure. As for the back 3- they need to close the space quicker on defense and then well big man vs small man is always going to be 1 winner…solution-pick bigger man.

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.11.16 12:27:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • 1-beast
    2-marx
    3-jannie du plessis
    4-eben
    5-lood
    6-jldp
    7-psdt
    8-alberts
    9-de klerk
    10-lambie
    11-combrinck
    12-jansen van rensburg
    13-venter
    14-jpp
    15-johan goosen

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.11.16 12:42:46 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 26) : Agreed. Lambie needs to use logic & strategy instead of just sticking to game plan of AC. He is brilliant in creating space but needs to play a more natural,flowing game. AC has turned them into automatons – “they are my instructions, you play them as I want you to or else…..” Maybe I read too much into it, but if I perceive that, then how many coaches (like Jones & Deans) also see it.That behemoth of a wing from Baabaas just steamrolled us. Nainai did the same & so did Akkers! :roll: Anyway, here’s to an entertaining game with the Boks edging it by 4.I have a lot of faith & hope. :grin: :cool:

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.11.16 12:49:59 by markm Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 17) : The “next Bismarck” was a bit of a disappointment. He did work hard on defense and lineouts were much better (but then he was up against some average locks), but I would have liked him to take the ball up more.

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.11.16 12:50:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 27) : Talk about big men! And captain, seeing that Strauss is not there?

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.11.16 12:52:01 by markm Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 23) : I agree with you there. Mohoje is the one player in the pack that really doesnt play good rugby.Lets compare him to someone like Willem Albers who sits on the bench while oupa takes center stage.Now do you think or infact any one on this site think that Oupa is a better player than Alberts.The springboks have won 80% of there games from 2012-2015 with alberts starting at 7.Ask any international loose forward which player they fear the most all of them would say alberts.Now how on earth can he be on the bench behind mohoje if he has won so many games for the boks under meyer.

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.11.16 12:55:07 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 31) : When was the last time Alberts played a full game?

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.11.16 12:59:03 by The hound Reply
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  • @markm (Comment 30) : venter would be my cap

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.11.16 12:59:22 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : he benches so how can he play a full game

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.11.16 12:59:54 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : under HM he did probably only last 60 min but by then the boks had the game in the bag already

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.11.16 13:00:48 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 29) : Yeh look my main criticism of him in his previous game were his core functions of hooking in the scrum and lineouts and both of those he did really well on Saturday…but in doing so his general play suffered. He seemed to concentrate purely on the core functions and almost ‘saved himself’ during open play by not getting that much involved. Not that he was poor- just probably expect him to do more. Same goes with the rest of our front row- they hardly contribute in open play compared to some other teams front rows.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.11.16 13:04:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 34) : He has become an impact player, because his body can not last the full 80,he is past his sell by date.I would rather play Juan Smith as old and banged up as he is than Alberts.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.11.16 13:04:14 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 37) : What about each of them playing 40min?

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.11.16 13:05:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 38) : What about finding new young talent that can play the full 80.
    I have a strong dislike of the substitution game, subs should only be used when there is an injury reason.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.11.16 13:08:16 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 37) : i got to disagree with you there m8 i think alberts should still start and play a full 60

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.11.16 13:10:37 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 39) : ok name the new talents that will save us at loose forward?

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.11.16 13:12:06 by schrodingers cat Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 39) : I would agree with you there. Guys like Marcel Coetzee, Jaco Kriel, Warren Whiteley, Uzair Cassiem, JL Duplessis, Janno Kirsten, Sikhumbuze Notshe, Phillip Van Der Walt, Jaques DuPlessis, Ruan Ackermann are all quality young players

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.11.16 13:16:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 41) : Just bear in mind we won a RWC with a loose trio of Schalk Burger, Juan Smith and Danie Rossouw.

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.11.16 13:18:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 41) : Jaques du Plessis,du Preez x2,Arno Botha, , Hanro Liebenberg,Uzair Cassiem,Michael Rhodes, thats off top of my head, but most of them have one thing in common they can all play 80 min, add Marcel Coetzee,Duane Vermullen, why would you need a 20 min battering ram.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.11.16 13:25:34 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 42) : Ruan Ackermann will still become a legend.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.11.16 13:27:00 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 45) : Just not sure his best position- almost a Danie Rossouw type

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.11.16 13:40:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 46) : He is only 20,will still grow think into a lock, very much in the Bakkies vein.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.11.16 13:49:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 47) : He definitely is a big boy like his dad. Think his mobility will make him more Danie Rossouw in that he can play lock, 7 or 8. Would love to see him at 7 for the Lions next year with Kriel and Whiteley. Just food for thought here..with the options at 6 currently do you not think its worth having a longer term look at JL Dup at 6? He can look at playing there for the Sharks and then Boks.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.11.16 13:59:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : Definitely,what is Marcel’s story, what is the situation with his injury and where is he going next.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.11.16 14:04:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 38) : @The hound (Comment 39) : yes and then you get an injury in the first 10min and now they must play 70 min?!?!?! To play international rugby you’re body must be ready to 100min even if you’re on the bench!!!

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.11.16 14:05:45 by JD Reply
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  • Cant they guys at the fringes of the squad stay in Europe ?

    Having to fly back to England must be torture for Cassiem

    Cassiem has developed into a excellent player, from University of Western Cape, to the Pumas, To the Cheetahs and now the boks. but his more of a blindside player, thus Carr to start at openside on Saturday, which isnt too bad as he had a good game his past weekend

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.11.16 14:06:24 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : As far as i know he had an ACl op…did the first part of his rehab in Durban and then the latter part in Ireland. Think he is expected back in the early part of next year. Not sure how much if any of the European season he will play which means i dont know if he will play any rugby before the June Internationals. Will be interesting to see what happens with him going forward as well as Duane Vermuelen, Bismarck DuPlessis

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.11.16 14:07:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @schrodingers cat (Comment 41) : @SheldonK (Comment 42) : @The hound (Comment 44) : now is the perfect time to let some of those youngsters get a chance to show what they can do as none or very few of the older player will make it to next world cup!

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.11.16 14:08:27 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 50) : 100min? Do they have to run back to the hotel? ;)

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.11.16 14:08:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 53) : Shouldnt we worry about winning the current test matches and worry about the RWC when it arrives? No use ‘investing’ in a player for him to get crocked playing super rugby in 2019 and then we lose that investment. I feel we should pick a team to win each test match as it comes along. Best way to create a winning culture

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.11.16 14:12:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 43) : yes and at 24 and 26 Schalk and Juan were a lot faster than they’re now at 33 and 35!!!! Time to give some other 20 something odd players their chance!!!

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.11.16 14:17:37 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 56) : That im happy with but the youngster selected must be selected because he is the best to play the next test match, not because he will be there for next RWC.

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.11.16 14:23:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : @SheldonK (Comment 55) : not saying pick a fresh new team of 20-22 year old players. Yes pick teams to win now but have a plan for the future. There’s players that’s young enough to make next world cup that’s good enough to be picked now! A good example is the loose forwards. For me there’s enough quality youngsters that I don’t see the need to carry on with Alberts and co. Rather pick them before they leave just like CJ did!!!

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.11.16 14:25:59 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 57) : I believe on performance there is youngsters that deserves to be selected as they’re just as good as the old guys!

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.11.16 14:27:44 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 58) : @JD (Comment 59) : When you say Alberts and co…who else is the co?

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.11.16 14:28:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 57) : I think the worst thing for a players to deselected for a game he is not ready for.Sergeal’s career might just be over because of AC prematurely shoving him into that match on Saturday.Nobody would have looked good against that gorilla.That guy would have smashed guys like George North andJulian Savea. Petersen will dream of that humiliation for the rest of his life.

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.11.16 14:30:01 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 61) : I do get your point. 2 things on that interest me- 1. why the hell do Australia not pick the guy? and 2. Why did Ulengo and Pieterson not swap wings? Ulengo is bigger and could have been more effective…unless he saw Pieterson’s demise as his chance to be promoted

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.11.16 14:32:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 62) : I think even Bakkies would have thought twice about moving to that channel, but Jean Luc actually did nail him from behind as well.

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.11.16 14:34:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 63) : The Baabaas game plan was so obvious though- move the ball to his wing…he causes defenders to get sucked in so that the ball can get move the opposite way and defense is scrambling. We need Venter and Peterson shooting up and cutting the ball to him- even if they kicked in behind he isnt that quick and Kriel/Combrinck could easily have tidied up.

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.11.16 14:40:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 64) : I think the one saving grace in Coetzee’s favor was that he resisted the urge to play Kolbe at 15,imagine the mess that man-mountain would have made of Kolbe,they would have had to stop the game to scrape Kolbe’s off his studs.

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.11.16 14:45:52 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 65) : Kolbe has no future in international 15s unless he moves to 9 or 10. If he craves international rugby he should stay with the 7s. Size does matter

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.11.16 14:50:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 66) : Agree totally even at 9 he’d be bullied and crying to the ref,Frans Steyn used to love hunting him down.

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.11.16 15:00:32 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 67) : Yeh as i said at a push he could get away with it at 9 or 10 but definitely not at 15 or wing. I think the Boks and some franchises are missing out on 7s players though- think there should be better co-operation that uses 7s as a breeding ground and upskilling of players. Guys like Werner Kok, Seabelo Senatla, Kyle Brown, Chris Dry, Justin Geduld could all add a lot of value

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.11.16 15:08:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : You joke! Apparently that is exactly what Andre Venter used to do! He used to run back to the team hotel after a test match. What a legend, and hard man!!

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.11.16 16:19:14 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 65) : :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

  • Comment 70, posted at 08.11.16 16:23:48 by Southern_Shark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 60) : well Jannie for one and maybe use one of Habana and JJP and give a youngster a chance on the other wing.

  • Comment 71, posted at 08.11.16 16:44:32 by JD Reply
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  • @markm (Comment 28) : I can only chuckle at the opinions sometimes. When Lambie is bland, it’s because the coach told him to play like that! Or he had crap scrum halves playing inside him.
    How about the straight up version. Lambie is low on confidence, having just returned from injury. So he stands too deep to attack the gainline. Geez, talk about hero worship.

  • Comment 72, posted at 08.11.16 18:09:15 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @markm (Comment 25) : Lambie has played outside Reinach at test level, and according to some on here, the reason Lambie didn’t set the world on fire, was because he got crap service from Reinach…. the fact that they played together at the Sharks had no domino effect at all. The mind boggles!
    I agree with SheldonK, Lambie is simply standing to deep, and I don’t see that as being the coach’s instruction.

  • Comment 73, posted at 08.11.16 18:20:15 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • Its all about combinations. The Cheetahs haven’t had an out and out fetcher since Boom Prinsloo got injured. Yet with Paul Schoeman, Cassiem and Jordan, all being fast and pretty athletic, they get good quick ruck ball.
    Strauss will start, and he is not bad at contesting, not as good as Bissy, but he does get in there and snaffle. Marx, still needs to grow into the 2 jersey.

  • Comment 74, posted at 08.11.16 18:24:12 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 73) : In fairness to Reinach (and Lambie), HM tried to convert him to a FdP clone (which didn’t work) while converting Lambie to a Morne steyn clone, which screwed up his game for quite a while.

    In 2013 Lambie probably had his worst year for the Sharks after HM spent the whole of the EOYT getting him to play like Morne

  • Comment 75, posted at 08.11.16 18:48:53 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 75) : I agree 100%!

    I said at the time (and in 2014 and last year) that Lambie was kicking way more than he used to. I even wrote a tongue-in-cheek article about him possibly moving to the Bulls to enhance his Bok chances.

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2012/10/30/sharks-trio-sign-with-bulls/

  • Comment 76, posted at 08.11.16 20:50:53 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 76) : HM has a lot to answer for. He really screwed up SA rugby

  • Comment 77, posted at 08.11.16 20:57:14 by Baylion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 65) :

    Maybe you don’t realize it but the way in which you are referring to Naiyaravoro is pretty damm offensive

  • Comment 78, posted at 09.11.16 03:05:23 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 73) : I dont think its Lambie standing too deep (well mostly as he does do that on occassion) but its more a case of him standing too wide. So the scrumhalf has pretty untidy ball thanks to our forwards and then has to fire off a 15-20m pass to find Lambie who is bunching with the 12. It means Lambie is rushed, the 12 has no space and the 13 just gets the ball shovelled his way. Lambie needs to play closer to the 9 as both Paige and Van Zyl clear from the base. With Faf De Klerk liking to pick up and run from the base before passing i can understand why Lambie would play wider then

  • Comment 79, posted at 09.11.16 08:09:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 69) : My best memory of Andre Venter is not of his play but of an SA Rugby Magazine poster about the then Currie Cup. It was a picture of Andre Venter and it said in order to experience what the Currie Cup is like put poster on the wall and run into poster. Love it

  • Comment 80, posted at 09.11.16 08:12:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 78) : You obviously aren’t a Donald Trump admirer.

  • Comment 81, posted at 09.11.16 08:50:46 by The hound Reply
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  • Japan – Leicester City – Brexit – Chicago Cubs – Ireland – Donald Trump……if only I was a betting man..

  • Comment 82, posted at 09.11.16 10:01:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 82) : Trump was 7/2 before voting started…think someone said Ireland was 5/1 before the game

  • Comment 83, posted at 09.11.16 10:13:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 82) : OMG

  • Comment 84, posted at 09.11.16 10:18:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 83) : But what was Trump when he first won the nomination. Leicester City were at 5000/1 at the start of the season.

  • Comment 85, posted at 09.11.16 10:35:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I wonder what Bob Dylans odds were on winning the Nobel Prize for literature.

  • Comment 86, posted at 09.11.16 10:36:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Be brave, put money on SA beating England on Saturday, its written in the tears of millions of Democrats.

  • Comment 87, posted at 09.11.16 10:38:41 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 85) : Good question…dont think it was as high as Leicester City though. Still 7/1 before the start of voting is a great bet…or well it was

  • Comment 88, posted at 09.11.16 10:48:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 87) : I dont think the odds will be that high on a Bok win…perhaps at most 3/1

  • Comment 89, posted at 09.11.16 10:49:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 89) : Proteas to beat Aus in Perth must have been a good bet too, especially if you took it at the moment Dale went down,

  • Comment 90, posted at 09.11.16 10:54:40 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 90) : Very true

  • Comment 91, posted at 09.11.16 10:57:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • So anyone keen to guess who will be the biggest surprise Bok selection this week? im putting early money on Rohan Janse Van Rensburg in the 23.

  • Comment 92, posted at 09.11.16 13:01:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Hey Trump won, so that means a Bok win is not out of the question! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 93, posted at 09.11.16 13:51:11 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 92) : Sergeal to keep his place on the wing!

  • Comment 94, posted at 09.11.16 17:08:17 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 81) :

    neither a bigot.

  • Comment 95, posted at 09.11.16 20:27:01 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 82) : @SheldonK (Comment 83) : strange world we living in! Just shows nothing is impossible! Sharks to win Super rugby 2017?!?!?!

  • Comment 96, posted at 09.11.16 20:47:40 by JD Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 78) : I was going to say something but thought I was being oversensitive. You’re right, though.

  • Comment 97, posted at 09.11.16 21:03:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 88) : The odds on Elvis being alive were better than Leicester’s odds of winning the EPL…!

  • Comment 98, posted at 09.11.16 21:53:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 92) : Do you think he will be? Surely AC will stick with DDA. Anyway, that would at least be a surprise…

  • Comment 99, posted at 09.11.16 21:55:18 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 95) : @robdylan (Comment 97) : You must cringe with embarrassment every time you hear the chant Beast that goes up when Tendai touches the ball or is that in some way different to anything I said.

  • Comment 100, posted at 09.11.16 22:50:28 by The hound Reply
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  • Get a life as Tanna said thesis not a game of tiddlywinks.

  • Comment 101, posted at 09.11.16 22:52:02 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 100) : @The hound (Comment 101) : Wow. You really can’t think of a difference? I’m almost speechless. Just wow…
    And that’s all I’m going to say about that…

  • Comment 102, posted at 10.11.16 06:33:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 99) : I think he will go with DDA but think Van Rensburg will make the 23…thats my big call

  • Comment 103, posted at 10.11.16 08:06:13 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 98) : What do you mean…Elvis is alive so those odds cant be too great :cool:

  • Comment 104, posted at 10.11.16 08:06:48 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 102) : Whats the difference in referring to one player as a beast and another as a gorilla,Muhamed Ali always referred to Joe Frazer as the gorilla.I am so sick of peoples PC sensitivities, this is a rugby site not a knitting circle, where is the offense in referring to the guy as a gorilla.Any offense must also be transferred to calling another guy a Beast which is another way of calling him a uncivilized animal.

  • Comment 105, posted at 10.11.16 08:42:26 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 103) : Aha…

  • Comment 106, posted at 10.11.16 17:50:11 by pastorshark Reply
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