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That was great, Sharks, but…


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 2 May 2017 at 14:14
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Call me Ebenezer Scrooge if you like, but I’m not quite ready to roll out the red carpet for the all-conquering Sharks, despite a good performance at the weekend that saw them become the first team to defeat the Jaguares at home this season.

Yes, it was a fine showing and to win like that in hostile territory showed just what this team is capable of. To me, though, this is not really anything new and we’ve already seen just how good the Sharks can be in big games; finding a way to win against the Brumbies on tour and coming so close against the Lions at Ellis Park. Fact is, this is a team that doesn’t battle to get up for the crucial clashes against top-flight opposition and Saturday’s big result was just another proof point.

This week, though, we play a home game against the unfancied Force and if anything, it’s this kind of game that has been the team’s downfall in recent times. Rather than showing improvement, the Sharks are actually getting worse when playing against the competition rubbish – narrowly scraping home against the Kings earlier in the year only to DRAW against the Rebels a fortnight ago. Champions teams get themselves properly up for ALL of the games they need to play and to be frank, there’s little use in putting in big performances against the top teams if you’re going to fail to perform against the minnows.

So my message to the Sharks team is simple: we will always support you and we will celebrate every big victory like the one you achieved on Saturday. Don’t, for a moment, though, think that means we are prepared to go easy on you when you fail to perform against teams that should be easy-beats. We expect nothing short of a big bonus point win against the Force this weekend. We need you to respect these opponents enough to work hard against them, but not respect them so much that you’ll accept a narrow result.

Let’s face it, this is not the most difficult challenge you’ll face this year, but if you fail to capitalise in a game that you really need to win with a bonus point, you will not be in the reckoning later in the year. That’s just the way it works.



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  • Very true, Rob and unfortunately an old problem. We so rarely really put a team to the sword.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.05.17 14:21:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Absolutely, 100% agreed Rob.

    Now have a bonus pint on me ;-)

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.05.17 14:22:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 2) : ah shit, did I do it again?

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.05.17 14:27:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 2) : those three keys are right next to one another and I guess I type so fast that I miss the middle one. That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it!

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.05.17 14:28:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • I am a big sharks fan boy… and always will be… But we have shown glimmers of what can be… now is time to work on consistency (Fans love that from both refs and teams) and then an edge can be honed on the sword that we put the opposition to.

    I think the Sharks need to look at each game as do or die… not because of the opposition is that good, but because the fans deserve it (even though I don’t think anyone half arses it on the pitch for because the game is technically easy, i would be hard pressed to claim that week-in and week-out we have the same urgency and desire for the ball and the win) and giving 100% it is possible to climb up out of 8th place to a position where we can win the final.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.05.17 14:30:26 by Warren Harvey Reply

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  • I would like more consistency during each match, and then also more consistency between matches.

    In most games this team can have some sublime moments followed by lots of utterly rubbish play. In the better games like against the Lions there were a lot of sublime, and then against the Kings and Rebels only mediocrity.

    It seems to be a concentration issue – these okes really need a mental coach.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.05.17 14:41:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Agree 110%. We want to see some beautiful tries this weekend!

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.05.17 14:48:03 by T-Shark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : It honestly didn’t bother me. I just like the sound of a bonus pint and I will have to insist that you have one on me at some point in time.

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.05.17 14:48:08 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 8) : point or pint in time?

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.05.17 14:51:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 6) : This inconsistency has somehow subtely embedded itself in the union’s culture and seems to manifest regardless of coaching staff. A mental coach or similar position, that has influence at all playing levels is the only way I see this particular pattern being uprooted once and for all.

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.05.17 14:54:08 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : I cannot tell you how happy it makes me that someone picked up on that silly bit of wordplay so quickly :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.05.17 14:56:12 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 11) : :grin:

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.05.17 15:00:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Hope it’s not too humid. Still, should be 5 easy points.

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.05.17 15:57:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • Thy need to play,…….

    as it is in Buenos Aires,
    so shall it be in Durban……..

    Rob is taking devotion to the Sharks to a whole new level.

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.05.17 16:05:39 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 14) : no idea what you mean.

    Completely random side rant. How silly must one look when one posts a witty comment relating to a typo in the article, only for said typo to be corrected rendering said comment a complete non sequitur?

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.05.17 16:17:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • ”We expect nothing short of a big bonus point win against the Force this weekend. We need you to respect these opponents enough to work hard against them, but not respect them so much that you’ll accept a narrow result.”
    Just doesn’t have a solid ring toit when it comes from a guy who publicly predicted a loss in Argentina last week :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.05.17 17:02:14 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) : bonus pint to celebrate a famous Sharks win??? Perhaps he was just trying on humour for size? :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.05.17 17:07:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 16) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.05.17 17:08:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Hi Rob, Have to agree some of us were told we are negative during the game but you have to say it as it is, and like all Sharks supporters we are extremely happy with the win, it was a huge win in context of the log etc.
    But one must also call a spade a spade as there were many problems during the match which could just as well have cost us the match which probably would have ended our season, instead it has us in a very good position.

    Things I find frustrating with our team are, (Lapse of concentration, lack of mental preparation, Lack of a fetcher, Slow play in getting to rucks etc, poor option taking,and i think we do not always back our youngsters)
    We play wings for example that are close to pension and do not get me wrong I have always been one of Odwa’s biggest fans because as he has always been an intelligent player, but he is far too slow, If you take the wings in most other teams like Mpimpi, even Mvovo has lost a lot of pace.

    The lack of speed in our team is clear to see like our loose forwards who are very good but they get beaten to every ruck etc, the poor concentration is very clear when you see how many unnecessary penalties we give away and I have no doubt one of the biggest reason the Kiwi teams thump our teams in general is they are taught to play smart, think on your feet, where our teams get caught out all the time due to lack of concentration and poor mental preparation.

    I am not saying our players are poor etc, but i sure would like to see improvement in the mental side of the game, we depend far to much on only the physical.

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.05.17 17:21:58 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 17) : I was referring to fyndraai’s comment. No issue with what van said

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.05.17 20:31:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 16) : So you think the Jaguares are of similar quality to the Force?

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.05.17 20:32:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :

    I was actually hoping it was not a typo and for you to add a Thou or two, to go with the Thy. You were in the USA recently, were you not?

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.05.17 21:12:17 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : I too was referring to Fyndraai’s comment..specifically about your bonus pint taking devotion to the Sharks to a whole new level. :lol: Personally I am impressed by your “bonus pint” devotion to the Sharks! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.05.17 21:53:49 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) : You were in the USA too long, your humour is incomplete, it is missing a u :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I always find humor in American spelling!

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.05.17 21:55:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : or maybe you were typing with a pint in your hand and that caused you to miss the point!? :twisted:

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.05.17 22:01:43 by JD Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 6) : @vanmartin (Comment 10) : @sharks_lover (Comment 19) : I’m so desperate for this bloody mind coach thing to address this issue once and for all that I’m considering doing the job for them for free!!!
    Concentration is such an issue. It is not only clear in the various points you make, but in the fact that basically every time we score and particularly every time we open up a 10+ point lead we do something silly STRAIGHT AWAY to let the advantage go…

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.05.17 22:17:04 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 1) : @Bokhoring (Comment 6) : @vanmartin (Comment 10) : @robdylan (Comment 21) : Ja Rob sorry to say Sharks have a real habit of losing to bottom sides!!! Sharks needs to be able to enforce their playing style and not to get sucked into the “weaker” sides poor play.
    Time for Sharks to concentrate and ensure they keep the intensity they had against the Jaguares. Respect opponents by taking all points that’s on offer (in the first 40) by kicking penalties and scoring tries. This will put pressure on opponents and hopefully demoralise them and then allowing Sharks to nail them in the last 20-30 min much like the All Black do!!!

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.05.17 22:18:29 by JD Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 26) : Amen! (if you’ll pardon the shop talk…)

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.05.17 22:20:30 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 26) : please do we will chip in to pay your petrol!!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.05.17 22:22:04 by JD Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 28) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.05.17 23:20:43 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The article a fair asessment of how most of us feel. It kind of makes you not want to NOT celebrate the wins, cause you are always wondering if you are celebrating too early…

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.05.17 05:54:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Typing fast because you needed to get to the pib. ..I mean pub?

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.05.17 05:56:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Let’s hope there’s no change of captain (or scrummie actually) again this week because that’s almost a death knell for the game I’m sorry to say.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.05.17 06:32:34 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • Its going “Pint in die wind” with the Sharks (and this thread) or should that be “punt in die wind”.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.05.17 08:53:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) : Dit bewys beslis ‘n punt of twee

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.05.17 09:38:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sharks = Liverpool of rugby.

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.05.17 10:00:13 by Bite me Reply

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  • just to correct any potential misconceptions – the Sharks do in fact have a mental coach this season. Dr Pieter Kruger.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.05.17 10:11:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : Interesting, had no idea. His first season with the side?

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.05.17 10:35:55 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 38) : I think so, yes

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.05.17 10:55:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • I wonder if it’s a perception that top sides that put away lesser opponents are doing so because they are playing a different more expansive game plan. Have a gut feeling that the Sharks tend to think “right let’s go score heaps of tries against these guys” instead of “let’s work on the things we didn’t get right in the previous game”. Playing against opponents who we should beat every time should be used to refine rather than show off. If your core game plan doesn’t yield bonus point results against the lesser teams then something is wrong with it no?

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.05.17 11:42:27 by gregkaos Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : See he was attached to the Boks during the last part of the Meyer era (if it’s the same guy). Any idea whether he’s consulting or onboard full-time?

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.05.17 11:43:46 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 41) : That does not fill me with confidence. Instead of calling for a mental coach, perhaps we should be calling for a NEW mental coach because this one is not getting the results.

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.05.17 14:30:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 42) : If none of us even knew we had a mental coach, and have been begging for one since it seems so obvious we need one, then this guy is failing miserably.

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.05.17 14:33:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 43) : The news that he was associated with Heyneke (asshat) Meyer during his Bok coach tenure does not exactly put a song in my heart…

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.05.17 16:02:03 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 43) : @Culling Song (Comment 44) : I’m willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt if he only joined us at the start of the season. The “clear eyes, full hearts” business takes some doing. Brains are tricky.

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.05.17 16:25:57 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : Thanks for the update boet, then with time I am sure he should up the players mental strengths etc.

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.05.17 16:44:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 45) : You’re far nicer than I am :mrgreen: The problem I have is I have seen absolutely no change, no improvement, they are behaving as they have for the past several seasons. Yes mental business takes time, but surely we would see even an inkling of improvement? Yet we have seen nothing, and based on the Kings and Rebels games, I think we have gone downhill in this area. Let’s not forget he was the Boks mental coach when the Boks lost to the Argies at home, and lost to Japan in the RWC, talk about playing down to your opponents level. If he screwed the Boks up so badly, how do you expect him to fix the exact same problem with the Sharks??? I still think you’re awesome though Van!

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.05.17 17:12:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 47) :

    Perhaps it speaks to the fact that it is extremely hard for a single person to change a culture. This issue at the Sharks has probably more to do with what’s been going on in the board room over the last few years or even the wider rugby culture in Durban. These matters are beyond the pay grade of a mental coach. He can only treat the symptoms, not fix the underlying problem.

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.05.17 17:54:13 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 47) : I was watching John Kirwan ,on Geoff Wilson’s show and they were talking about All Black selection, his take in a nutshell is that teams win who have the best on field leadership.
    The AB’s have always picked the captain first and tenth team, and the team have always backed the captain to the end.
    Sharks problems are all to do with the utter lack of on field leadership.You can say what you like about the last two games but the difference was in the on field leadership.

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.05.17 17:58:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 48) : Fine, but if you are going to bring in a mental coach, why bring one in with a terrible track record of not fixing the exact problem you are trying to fix? The culture is not only Durban, it is firmly entrenched with the Boks, do I have to remind you of Argentina, Japan, and Italy???

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.05.17 18:00:26 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : I could not agree with you more, and people in SA complained when John Smit was picked first as captain at the expense of Bissie, but the Bok record with Smit as captain was superb.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.05.17 18:02:04 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : Sharks do not have a standout leader ala Smit, Kieren Reed, McCaw, even Matfield, etc.

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.05.17 18:03:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 52) : Yup even Lambie is not that guy, he is too shy to be a natural leader,I think van der Walt could do it, my other pick would be Ruan Botha and in time Thomas.

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.05.17 18:07:54 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 53) : Lambie as captain reminds me a lot of Teichman, does no do a lot of talking, has more to do with the way he carries himself….If Lambie could once and for all have an extended injury-free run, we’ll see his leadership skills bare fruit.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.05.17 18:52:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) :

    Bok issues relates to rugby economics and rugby politics in South Africa. No person with the word “coach” in his title can correct for those.
    The Sharks issues may have a different underlying cause, but considering how long it has been going on, I’m pretty sure it’s underlying to a point beyond the reach of any one person to fix within a few months.

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.05.17 19:36:13 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 55) : Don’t agree, the Boks came very close to the All Blacks in the semi-final of RWC, but lost to the Japanese in the early rounds. This has nothing to do with economics and everything to do with not being up for a “weak” opponent.

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.05.17 21:18:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 54) : A great captain is one that the team is built around ,who pitches week after week,Teich,McCaw,Read,Smit,Mattfield,Whitely.
    Lambie is like Jean de Villiers,you never know when he is going to string 2 games together, you can’t build team culture around that.He is a fantastic player, decision maker, but I have yet to see evidence that he is a leader of men.

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.05.17 21:19:40 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 53) : Agree, although I believe Lambie’s biggest problem as leader is that he has been prone to long term injury of late, it is hard to be a strong leader if you only play less than half the teams games. Personally I actually like Lewies as captain a little more than Ruan. When Lewies is calling lineouts, they are much better, and he does not lose his head ala Botha. We don’t need a captain with a penchant for strangling opposing players. ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.05.17 21:21:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 57) : Spot on!

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 58) : Lewies is also a walking wounded, still want to know why he came off so early last week, he too can never string two good weeks together.
    Botha is the kind of guy whose transgressions are out weighed by his physicality,like Dylan Hartley or Bismark.Every week I enjoy him more.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.05.17 21:41:38 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : Bissie was a terrible captain, and personally I don’t think much of Hartley either, neither seem capable of establishing a positive relationship with the match officials. You do make a good point about Lewies and injuries though, which enforces my earlier point that the Sharks simply do not have a natural leader/captain. Ginger Ninja does well, makes good on field decisions, but is not much of a motivator, no fire and brimstone. Perhaps the Sharks should be recruiting for a strong captain and not just top players.

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.05.17 21:54:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 61) : Keegan is excellent with on field decisions and motivating his team, but he sucks with the referees. And oh by the way, Keegan played a full club match this past weekend, so he is definitely a possibility this week or next.

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.05.17 21:56:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 56) :

    Economics induced SA to select overseas players, which in turn may have caused cohesion and morale issues that manifested itself more in games for which the motovation was low.

  • Comment 63, posted at 04.05.17 02:29:45 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 61) : No fire and brimstone? In terms of what? Look at his hair mate, he’s literally on fire! In all seriousness, he motivates other players by performing the way he does. He’s currently one of the best players we have. I am very satisfied with him being our captain and he repaid the faith shown in him by scoring the opening try for his team this weekend and captaining us to a very difficult win in ARG.

  • Comment 64, posted at 04.05.17 07:37:57 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 64) : Agree.

  • Comment 65, posted at 04.05.17 08:08:51 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 60) : Lewies calf strain – touch and go for the weekend

  • Comment 66, posted at 04.05.17 08:17:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : He was looking good, but the good news is that E.O slotted seamlessly into his place.I honestly believe our lock situation is the best in world rugby.

  • Comment 67, posted at 04.05.17 08:20:44 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 67) : Our lock situation is potentially world class, provided a) Lewies can maintain his fitness for more than two games in a row, and b) Oosthuizen and Botha can maintain their cool for more than two games in a row

  • Comment 68, posted at 04.05.17 08:31:12 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 68) : Yeah I agree, if they can keep it clean and injury free we have some of the best options at lock.

  • Comment 69, posted at 04.05.17 08:45:42 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 68) : I don’t think any of our three locks are dirty in the Elstadt mould, I think all three are hard and aggressive,would hate to see any of them lose the aggression.
    I feel for Oosthuizen he plays with his heart and to a moron like Peyper who can’t tell the difference between a hard player and a dirty player he is a target

  • Comment 70, posted at 04.05.17 09:56:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 70) : you seem to be living in a strange word where you think it’s Peyper’s fault that Oosthuizen and Botha cannot stop grabbing players around the neck. Explain this to me? Is there a pill I need to take to understand this better?

  • Comment 71, posted at 04.05.17 10:02:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • I mean, it’s not been talked about much, but Etienne was bloody lucky not to get a red card this weekend. If Peyper hadn’t spotted an earlier infringement that clouded his mind a bit, Ettas would have gone.

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  • @The hound (Comment 70) : @robdylan (Comment 71) : Have to agree with Rob here. He gets into unnecessary trouble more often than other players. I do also agree that he’s not as bad as Elstadt(his intentions surely isn’t) but he needs to work on his discipline none the less.

  • Comment 73, posted at 04.05.17 10:17:08 by Quintin Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 70) : I also don’t necessarily think they are dirty; it’s more a case of ill-discipline. They definitely should not tone down the aggression, just tighten up how they play to the laws of the game

  • Comment 74, posted at 04.05.17 10:36:46 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : Tanna Umanga summed it up in language you might understand.
    ”Its not a game of tiddlywinks mate”

  • Comment 75, posted at 04.05.17 11:23:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 75) : and yet World Rugby have decreed that you’re not allowed to touch a player above the shoulders. So ultimately Tana’s pithy soundbite counts for f-all when Etienne and Ruan are costing us games because they won’t learn.

  • Comment 76, posted at 04.05.17 11:28:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 76) : It’s becoming such a farce, apply that stupid law to scrumming front row contact is all above the shoulders.If a big man goes in to tackle a shorter man the law of probability is that the shorter guy will slip down and the taller guys grip will go up above the shoulders.
    The referee should have the discretion to determine what is hard play and what is foul play.
    Unless you feel that all contact above the shoulders is foul play.
    First time Rettalick,Read or Whitelock are carded for this the rule will change.

  • Comment 77, posted at 04.05.17 11:43:35 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 77) : it’s pointless to argue against what the law states. If you’re going to play the game, then you need to follow the laws. If not, then it’s your own fault when you get blown up.

  • Comment 78, posted at 04.05.17 12:03:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • Its been said before – the law is an ass.

  • Comment 79, posted at 04.05.17 12:06:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 78) : While watching a huge handoff on the week end it once again came to me how stooped this law is
    .It was a massive New Zealand handoff straight into the face of the opponent,way above the shoulders, so breaking two laws at the same time, contact with the face and contact above the neck.Yet it was perfectly legitimate.
    In the same vein a skew throw at the line out results in a turn around of the line out opportunity,but a skew put in at the scrum is never even blown up.
    Why,teams are often offered a choice of scrum or lineup so they are regarded as equal opportunities,surely they should be policed equally.

  • Comment 80, posted at 08.05.17 14:36:43 by The hound Reply
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