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Sharks beat Force, but bonus point eludes


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 6 May 2017 at 17:05
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The Sharks have picked up a handy 37-12 win over the Western Force at Kings Park, but are still – frustratingly – in search of their first try bonus point of the season.

The Sharks scored four tries, their best in some time and had three others disallowed; the Force scored first and also picked up a late score to prevent the Sharks from ending three tries clear.

Curwin Bosch nailed two early penalties before the Force turned the game on its head with a try to winger James Verity-Amm. Somewhat lucky to be ahead 7-6, the Force battled well but ultimately were outmuscled in most areas; the Sharks eventually got onto the board late in the first half after Force centre Curtis Rona had been yellow carded for a professional foul. Jeremy Ward scored his first career try at this level just before half time, with Jean-Luc du Preez adding on of his own minutes later to see the Sharks go into half time leading 20-7.

It was more of the same in the second half, with the Sharks making most of the play but undoing their own good work through silly errors. Curwin Bosch eventually scored the third try after some outrageous backline play that saw Sbu Nkosi and Ward show off their dribbling skills en route to the line. With a 30-7 advantage, the bonus points was on a plate, but for a lapse that saw the Force score through Marcel Brache in the final quarter.

A great intercept try by Lukhanyo Am gave the Sharks some hope again, but ultimately, they failed to register the needed 5th try and will once again have many question to answer about their own play against a side that simply shouldn’t be troubling them.

Sharks (37): Tries Ward, J du Preez, Bosch, Am. Conversions Bosch (3), Lambie. Penalties Bosch (3).
Force (12): Tries Verity-Amm, Brache. Conversion Prior.



49 Comments

  • Schalk Brits cappie of Sarries today. Go boys!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.05.17 17:15:23 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • When I saw the points difference I was really hoping for the bonus point so bit disappointed they could not do it!

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.05.17 21:03:59 by JD Reply
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  • No bonus point, but I was pleased with the intensity. It’s been a while since the lads scored 4 tries so that’s an improvement.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.05.17 11:52:53 by SeanJeff Reply

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  • Actually think uScott Robertson, the Crusaders coach, has taken the game one level up, both on attack and defense. When his team is on attack they force the defending side to focus on individual channel defending and be able to make last minute decisions on defense without compromising the integrity of the wall. On defense they and in one motion are on a push-up position which enables them to quickly launch themselves into a rucking position. They don’t have big names in that teams but area able to crack open any defense. I actually don’t blame the Bulls for conceding so many points. Doubt there is any SA team that can beat the Crusaders. The level of our rugby is still very low and unfortunately the coaches think they are on the right track and blame everyone and everything for the state of our rugby but themselves. Scott Robertson is in his first year as SR coach, so this talk of requiring experience so that one can cope with what the NZ bring to the field is shit. As I have been saying since the Rebelgate, put standards in place for when you are defending and attacking, track performance against those standards without fear or faviour. If that was happening we would not have these CR go-slow situations. SA coaches must coach or step aside for NZ coaches to come teach them how it is done.

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.05.17 11:54:02 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 4) : The results column doesn’t reflect it, nor does the log, but Cheetahs have been way better than the Bulls in terms of their play. They were unfortunate to suffer a 14 point swing against the Crusaeders, and were doing very well against the Highlanders.
    Superior fitness maybe, but the Cheetahs have been playing attacking rugby, despite their off field distractions.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.05.17 12:57:45 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 4) : Kiwi coaches would do wonders with our player resources.

    I’m sure some of their ITM coaches would jump at the opportunity to come coach our SR franchises.

    Guaranteed, saru is doing everything in their power to block this, as well as employing foreigners becoming somewhat of an issue in SA.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.05.17 13:06:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 5) : Between attractive losing rugby and boring losing rugby, SA seems to be excelling at the “losing” part of rugby.

    It’s ironic that so many tsietas left for the greener pastures of Pretoria, yet they have now dropped exciting losing rugby, for dour losing rugby.

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.05.17 13:10:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Not managing the bonus point probably not so critical seeing as the Jags could not get one despite scoring 7 tries against the Wolves. Sharks still have an 8 point buffer on the log.

    However we better treat the Kings and Wolves as if they are top Kiwi teams in the next two games or we could get unstuck.

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.05.17 13:21:19 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 7) : I am at a wits end, in all honesty. My only consolation is that the Lions on their journey to where they are now, was also paved with some implosions. Cheetahs just seem to make imploding a habit!!
    If the Cheetahs can maintain the growth, it will be good to see if they can make the step up, from choking, to closing out matches.
    Ox has been a revelation, and Henco Venter is beginning to play to his potential. Rhule and Petersen doing well (defence aside)

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.05.17 13:30:44 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 9) : I wanna see Ox and Thomas as the two LH’s for the Boks.

    The biggest frustration is, when considering the teams represented in the Baby Bok team, it’s telling that Bok rugby wants nothing to do with the culture created by the Lions.

    Streamers and Bulls still rule SA rugby, and it is no coincidence that their results directly reflect that of the Boks.

    Rubbish blind-leading-the-blind administration will always be the death of any good being done in any of our franchises.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.05.17 13:36:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : Agreed. Lions won both the u/19, and u/20 championships, but have sparse representation in the Junior Boks. On a side note, Ginger is a damn fine captain, and his english is good. I really miss him. He was destined for greatness.

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.05.17 13:40:41 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 10) : Very big concern.

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.05.17 13:56:15 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 11) : Jislaaikit I was impressed when he opened his mouth, was expecting his very best Dutchanese, but AJ Venter will do well to go for english classes with Ginger.

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.05.17 14:12:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 12) : Thankfully the Sharks seem to be more aligned with the Lions, than with the Broederbonders destroying bulls, Streamers and bok rugby.

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.05.17 14:15:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • You guys are aware that theres a good chance we are in for a absolute dog fight against the Kings in PE next week right

    they have serious momentum and they are doing a huge attendance drive for all the final home games, they even had a #fillourstadium banner at todays spar womans race. it also depends on which of their players they have fit.

    then again this may work in our favour, if thw coaching staff of the sharks bring this to the players attention or the players pick it up, we always play better when we are not thought of as definite favourites.

    wandile mjekevu is playing really well at the kings, gaints is captaining their ss rugby challenge team, and ungerer is playing well along side gaint. interesting to see which of these players we bring back.

    oh how I hope we get Louis shroeder

    did the coaching staff ask CR to slow the game down when he came on yesterday ? maybe they told him set up forward pods in our own half and speed the ball up in the opposition half ?

    either way none of our box kicks worked, all game

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.05.17 15:37:03 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 13) : he speaks fluent Xhosa too. I reckon he should stay captain. Let Lambie focus on playing flyhalf.

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.05.17 15:51:41 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 14) : Broederbonders as in idiot brothers in arms or Broederbonders? Because if its the latter I doubt it. Jurie Roux, AC, Thelo etc definitely trying hard to destroy sa rugby but not cause they BBonders just fking morons.

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.05.17 15:55:27 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 9) : I agree. Chetan do have a good start in first half but the consistency in second half is eluding them. Do you think the bench strength is a problem? Also think the pivots lose the plot a little after a while?

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.05.17 16:07:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 16) : wow really thats awesome, the PR team should get him to do lots of interviews in xhosa if they are serious about grouping the game and on top of that gaining more sharks supporters

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.05.17 16:51:46 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 18) : @KingCheetah (Comment 11) : They have a losing mentality. Show me proof otherwise and I will agree. And please don’t mention the CC they won. They need leadership and inspiration which they can’t even buy if they wanted to. They have never been good in SR, and, sorry to say, probably never will be due to their geographical location and the resources available to them.

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.05.17 17:13:33 by Quintin Reply

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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 17) : Don’t think the Broederbond exists anymore – probably all immigrated to Canada, then England, then Oz.

    Mostly aimed at a tiny group fighting tooth and nail to keep their spot on the saru gravy train – they will resist all attempts to unseat them, as their well-being is all that matters to them.

    Kings is a perfect example of this, now that their gravy-train pirates have walked the plank, they’ve suddenly discovered an ability to coach and play rugby.

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.05.17 17:14:39 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 19) : not sure there are too many isiXhosa speakers in Durbs, though.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.05.17 17:50:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 18) : I really don’t know. The players do have the skills. Maybe its just the winning mentality they need to acquire.

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.05.17 18:08:03 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 23) : Sharks also had the skills when we had that fresh young team but what we lacked was that element that keeps it together. We kind of found it again with some seasoned veterans like Lambie vd Walt etc. Maybe that’s what cheetahs need some old heads that can help the consistency and to right the ship when the moment gets to big or the pressure gets to the younger guys. People would probably balk at this but having Strauss and sarel and some others of that ilk would have helped.

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.05.17 19:07:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Great win: we could have scored many more times, but the patience and disciplined execution will come with time.

    Great game from Nkosi – I knew he that he is an exciting runner, but his commitment and power on defence reminded me of JP – great to watch.

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.05.17 08:50:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : But there is a huge Xhosa rugby viewership. Plus most if not all Zulu speakers can understand and/or talk isiXhosa.

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.05.17 09:14:50 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • We hosted a big choir festival in Wartburg this weekend, so I had no chance to watch anything this weekend. I’m glad to hear that our loose trio played well, our tight 5 is continuing its good work, that Sbu Nkosi made an excellent debut, Jeremy Ward really does look the real deal…and that Pat is back…
    Keep it up, men…

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.05.17 09:15:07 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 13) : “Dutchanese”… :shock: reminded me of this little gem by the then 71 year old Bob Dylan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mns9VeRguys

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.05.17 09:25:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • So let me see if I get this right…yes The Sharks haven’t scored a bonus point yet, we scored 4 on Saturday and but for some bad luck, it would’ve been 7. I am not really seeing the doom and gloom that people are talking about. It is this team’s first season together, people talk about the Lions, but they had several years to gel and work on their style and gameplan, also, don’t forget the importance of that one season where they were playing in the ”Lions Challenge” or whatever it was called, as that allowed them to experiment in a no pressure situation. The Sharks might not win the SR this year, but they are still a contender, and that is more than what we could’ve asked from them. Next year all the youngsters would be wiser and some of the older legs would be gone. I am enjoying the Sharks this year, apart from the Rebels brain fart, they have shown a consistent upwards curve.

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.05.17 09:29:21 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 25) : Nkosi’s performance needs to do one, or both of two things: earn Mvovo a spot on the bench, and/or put some fire in him to radically UP his performance.

    I long for our (SA) rugby to reward performance over brand-name/”experience”.

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.05.17 09:32:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) : Are you trying to summon Rob “Dylan” Otto? :)

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.05.17 09:36:53 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : This kinda reminds me of one Garth April this time last year, one good game straight into the Books and straight out into obscurity, not even able to make the Sharks bench a mere 12 months later.
    Its amazing that the very same people who lead the cheering party for the one game wonder, are the same ones who rip his ring out when he fails on the stage too far.
    Give the guy time to make it at this level before we destroy him at the next.

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.05.17 09:43:13 by The hound Reply
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  • :lol: :mrgreen: I know quicker ways of summoning him, but Im sure he would (or does) enjoy that number.

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.05.17 09:55:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : You are so right. People are so quick to just want to drop the experienced players for the hot new kid on the block. But then they crucify that same kid when he makes a mistake

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.05.17 10:03:22 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 34) : Yes when he does not live up to the inflated opinion they have built for him.I think this guy is potentially a good player, the operative word is potentially.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.05.17 10:10:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 34) : experienced players must deliver. That’s why we have them.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.05.17 10:11:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Also true. But I felt during the Jaguares team that Mvovo was upping his game, I just can’t explain where his speed went. Back in the day Mvovo only needed half a gap to be able to be gone.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.05.17 10:14:23 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 37) : to be fair, that was Lwazi’s best performance in some time

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.05.17 10:20:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 36) : Apparently experienced players are there to keep talented youngsters in a safe place away from any action and possible criticism….Keep them wrapped in cotton until the £/€/¥ comes calling, at least their feelings won’t get hurt that way.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.05.17 10:22:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : He was also on such a good roll last year until that game against the Leprechauns.

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.05.17 10:23:23 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 37) : If your wing doesn’t have speed, he’d better have bulk….If he has neither, he should reconsider his position on the field.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.05.17 10:24:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : Not sure which experienced player was dropped for April’s debut in the A side….bigger indictment was dropping him after one poor performance, and elevating him to international duty after a very short SR debut.

    Not unlike Mthembu, Mvovo has been given the benefit of the doubt for the entire season, and he didn’t deliver. So the youngster grabs his opportunity with both hands, and you’re advocating for him to be dropped for the slow and out of form Lwazi – Saffa logic.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.05.17 10:27:47 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • The positive is that finally we have another player that looks able to make the step up to the senior side when needed. We urgently need someone else to deputize for Kobus when he goes down. What’s happened with the other Sbu (ra)?

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.05.17 10:31:48 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 42) : Where did I say drop him,I said play him into that position and don’t do what we do to every player of color who shows potential,elevate them straight into the national team, with out the confidence and experience to play at that level.
    There are very few Jonah Lomu in the world who can play international rugby in their first years of senior rugby.As good as this kid is he’s no Jonah at 19.
    Also you forget how good Lwazi and Odwa are in the air, if you play a tiny fullback like Smith or April or Bosch you need wings who can cover in the air.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.05.17 10:58:02 by The hound Reply
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  • I also thought Kobus was very dodgy on Saturday he looked like he was playing one week too soon.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.05.17 10:59:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 45) : Agreed. I was very excited for Kobus to be back but he looked out of sorts, probably just some rust or like you said he was rushed back. Nkosi will become a very good player I reckon, but he definitely needs some time to mature first.

    @The hound (Comment 44) : Agreed about having a small FB. You have to have a balanced back three that can defend as well as they can attack. The Cheetahs and Stormers back three is proof of that. They are too small overall and they are leaking tries because of that. One perfect example was the cross kick try scored by the Canes where they just ran over Kolbe to score a 60m+ try.

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.05.17 11:44:46 by Quintin Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 44) : I never called for Nkosi to be elevated to the Bok squad (a kiss of death these days), just that a quality display like that needs to be rewarded with continued selection ahead of the underperforming experienced player.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.05.17 13:52:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 46) : Nkosi and van Wyk adds more than enough bulk to cover for Smith’s lack of size – no one can honestly tell me that Mvovo is bigger than Nkosi.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.05.17 13:55:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 26) : I think you may be correct that most peeps that can speak zulu can also speak xhosa, will have to look at census stats. all my friends and co workers of zulu ethnicity speak both zulu and xhosa along with english, afrikaans and on average atleast one other official sa language.

    We need to do more on the PR front to draw supporters, get ginger, tera, mvovo etc to do interview in more diverse sa languages, and xhosa should be up there as your correct that there is a big xhosa rugby watching community thats why ss has xhosa commentary. also even if those xhosa speaking peeps are not in durban we can draw them in with great interviews.

    case in point: I’m born in western cape, spend part of my childhood in Mpumalanga, have never been to kzn (and yet some how iv been to tanzania lol) and im a die hard Sharkie, attend all our games here in western cape if time and finances allow (missed last years win over the streamers as it was the same day and my older and only brothers wedding)

    but otherwise I like where the team is at right now, both the sr team and the sharks15 team, and I really hope we make the play offs , get a sa or oz team away in the quarters, then a sa team in the semi, and then lets see what happens in the final.

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.05.17 18:26:26 by revolverocelot Reply

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