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Oosthuizen signed by Lyon – reports


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 10 May 2017 at 08:56
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As we revealed a few months back, Sharks lock Etienne Oosthuizen has been eyeing a move to France when his contract ends later this year.

According to various reports yesterday, the Sharks seem to have lost the battle to retain his services and Oosthuizen will leave Durban on completion of the current Super Rugby campaign to take up a contract with Lyon.

This is obviously hugely disappointing for the Sharks, who have stuck by the player and allowed him to grow through his initial discipline and work-rate issues. Oosthuizen is now a critical member of the Sharks tight five and a player for whom no obvious replacement exists.

As a fan, I can only express sadness that Etienne has decided to pursue this choice.



69 Comments

  • Thought he would maybe try for Montpellier.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.05.17 08:59:52 by JustPlainSHARK Reply
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  • Oh what a huge let down….just as he was gaining some form and finally finding his “place”

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.05.17 09:01:11 by Sharkfinn Reply
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  • Such a good disrupted of opposition mauls and a real enforcer.

    He’ll be missed.

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.05.17 09:03:32 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 3) : Second to none in that regard currently.

    Pity as he has been superb apart from penalties

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.05.17 09:11:35 by Kabouter Reply

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  • @Kabouter (Comment 4) : Is there currently a 4 lock in SA that can be called an “enforcer” with a lower penalty count than EO.

    Effy-beth is rubbish when he’s not giving away penalties….and rubbish when he is giving away penalties.

    Sadly for EO, he probably won’t unseat rubish Effy-beth. SA has a fascination with that guy, for some unproven reason.

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.05.17 09:17:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 1) : why? Jake has left

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.05.17 09:23:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • It seems as if one of the biggest challenges for modern SA unions will simply be churn rate in players. I have no doubt at all that RPD could take our current core team to a Super Rugby title given the opportunity to work with them over several years but if we churn out roughly 30% of the “core” team every year we will never get there.

    Right now, we are already looking at a real shake-up in both scrum half and tight head for next year.

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.05.17 09:32:15 by KimFurber Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : I wonder if there’s a solid international offer on the table for Jake?

    I would love for him to be given the role of identifying talented players throughout SA and run an academy that develops the skills of those players – from there, create a pool of centrally contracted players to be used by franchisees on a draft system.

    The guy has always (almost always) had a great eye for spotting talented players, before anybody even heard of them – EO being one of them.

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.05.17 09:36:10 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Jake was still in die coaching box when Montpellier played Stade France on Saturday….it was the only Top 14 game I’ve ever watched. :roll:

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.05.17 09:38:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KimFurber (Comment 7) : Three of the most difficult positions to fill: Tight Head, Scrumhalf, 4-Lock – you just don’t get those players off a shelf.

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.05.17 09:40:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • As far as I know Jake will be coaching in Japan.

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.05.17 09:43:19 by sharkingmad Reply

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  • Best of luck Ettas. You’ll be sorely missed.

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.05.17 09:47:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • We (Saffa teams) might as well get used to good players getting targeted and leaving.It sucks but if we can get 3 good years out of a good player I think we would have done exceptionally well under the present conditions.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.05.17 09:53:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @sharkingmad (Comment 11) : Jake is off to Japan next, i read somehere that he already has a good few SA players joining him there.

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.05.17 09:57:20 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 14) : Seems every time he leaves a franchise, it’s under the auspices of wanting a crack at international rugby – unless he’s eyeing Japan for 2019 world cup.

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.05.17 10:09:38 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 15) : He was let go by Montpellier and was in limbo for a while until this Japanese post came up. Im not a big Jake fan but feel that he is probably exactly what SA needs right now even if its just to steady the ship and let players realise what their priorities should be. He can be accused of many things but indecisiveness is not one of them.

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.05.17 10:17:35 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Sad to lose quality players, but understandable. Probably very little chance of making the Bok team so might as well go earn some real money.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.05.17 10:56:25 by McLovin Reply

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  • Huge ,huge loss, very unappreciated player, guy who did the hard unglamorous work.
    Always felt his contribution is undervalued, and that he had been unjustly marked as a dirty player, often on these pages.
    Should now move Dan into the third lock position

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.05.17 11:11:11 by The hound Reply
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  • Not a fancy player by any means but a true hard, mongrel 4 lock. He will be sorely missed I’m afraid.

    Perhaps we need to consider Dan du Preez at 4 – I know there are counter-arguments but we have a few good loosies and no decent 4, while he hasn’t seemed dynamic enough at 8. Of course, he’s still young so I am not writing him of as a loosie either.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.05.17 11:12:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 19) : Beat you by precisely 1.25 seconds Touche’

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.05.17 11:14:56 by The hound Reply
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  • Damn…

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.05.17 11:20:22 by pastorshark Reply
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  • SA is leaching talent at an alarming rate. Soon we won’t even be able to field 3 competitive super rugby sides.

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.05.17 11:34:50 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 20) : you can laugh at me for this, but I’m actually onside with this suggestion now. Dan is not what we need at 8, but could perhaps develop into a decent 4. He’s very hard, anyway and perhaps we can compensate for the lack of height.

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.05.17 11:45:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Ettas is only 2 cm taller than Dan – that is if Wiki is correct

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.05.17 11:52:32 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : He’ll do fine at 4 even with his height. Main problem is losing another player to rich oversees clubs. How can you build any continuity with the way things are going?

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.05.17 12:10:54 by Quintin Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 20) :
    I am humbly content to follow the hallowed footfalls of those who have much to teach. ;-)

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.05.17 12:32:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) :
    I don’t think the height is an insurmountable issue. He’s probably got a pretty explosive vertical jump anyway. He could potentially be lethal as an extra loose-forward – like PSDT.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.05.17 12:35:21 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : @Big Fish (Comment 19) : @The hound (Comment 18) : Got to agree with all of you on this.

    With Dan moved to 4 and involved more in the tight exchanges I imagine his handling woes won’t be as prominent. Problem being Robert du Preez has said publicly that Dan is an 8 and I assume he isn’t interested in shifting his son to 4….

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.05.17 13:30:56 by Hulk Reply

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  • Sad news indeed!
    Good luck EO you will be missed!

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.05.17 13:47:36 by JD Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 28) : Dan played 4/5 for Natal schools for 3 years and SA schools for 2 years he is more than capable in that position.

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.05.17 14:33:02 by The hound Reply
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  • Quote from Beast which sums up why I think it’s so important we find some way to keep this team mostly intact:

    “This season has been really great. I think it has been one of the best enviroments I have worked under at the Sharks. It is my 11th year of Super Rugby this year and so I have seen a few coaches come and go. The current set-up is one of the best and I think it is because Robert du Preez is a Sharks man through and through. You know he played for the Sharks and understands the culture. He came in and just brought us back to who we are. I think over the last of couple of years we had lost our identity as the Sharks. So he came in and really shook the system and really set standards and goals from the beginning. We had a camp at Pumula where everybody spoke. The players had a chance to say what they feel. I think now at this stage of the season we are seeing those things coming through. All those things that we spoke about before the season. You can see this in the belief and the culture within the team. It is really great. I think everybody wants to keep on improving. I think now is the time for us to make a big step up. We want to finish strong and be in the play-offs,” Mtawarira concluded.

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.05.17 14:45:52 by KimFurber Reply

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  • It’s sad to see Ettiene go. He is one of my favorite Sharks players at the moment. I don’t think the opposition has scored one rolling maul try against us this year while Ettas was on the park.

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.05.17 15:13:11 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KimFurber (Comment 31) : It’s a pity that culture isn’t stronger than the lure of the Euro.

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.05.17 15:17:45 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 24) : I don’t believe Dan is really 1.96m, but I could be wrong

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.05.17 15:29:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • Good luck, Ettas…
    …but still: DAMN!

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.05.17 15:44:14 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : Sharksrugby have both Dan and Ettas at 1.98. One would assume being the official site of the Sharks, the info would be correct?

  • Comment 36, posted at 10.05.17 16:10:05 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : On match day, they showed Dan at 1.98, and JL at 1.93. So perhaps 1.96 is actually accurate.

  • Comment 37, posted at 10.05.17 16:11:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DANIEL DU PREEZ

    Position
    8th Man, Flanker
    Height
    198
    Weight
    112

  • Comment 38, posted at 10.05.17 16:19:10 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • JEAN-LUC DU PREEZ

    Height
    194
    Weight
    110

  • Comment 39, posted at 10.05.17 16:20:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • So yes Daniel can play 4 lock, but does he want to or does his father want to play him there?

  • Comment 40, posted at 10.05.17 16:21:50 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Other option is JEAN DROSTE
    Height
    2.00m
    Weight
    109kg

    Personally not sure how good he is???

  • Comment 41, posted at 10.05.17 16:23:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • As foir Jake White? he is off to Japan and players that have been reported to as having signed to join him is Lock Jason Jenkins from the Bulls and Another backline player but cannot remember the name.

    Now a damn pity Jenkins is off to Japan, Sharks should have signed him :cry:

  • Comment 42, posted at 10.05.17 16:27:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 36) : pffft. I wouldn’t assume that, not at all

  • Comment 43, posted at 10.05.17 16:30:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • If its size you want just go to Glenwood and get that giant lock of theirs to cut his teeth at Currie Cup time.

  • Comment 44, posted at 10.05.17 16:30:48 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : Where is the massive lock you spoke of a few years ago Rob?
    he was I think 16 at the time, at the time he was like 125kg and 2.05??

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.05.17 16:41:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 44) : Which one is massive? Seth Van Den Heever or Mathew Harmsworth?

  • Comment 46, posted at 10.05.17 16:53:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 46) : i think his surname is van der Mescht.

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.05.17 16:58:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 45) : JJ van der Mecht

  • Comment 48, posted at 10.05.17 17:08:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • Maro Itoje
    Height 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in)
    Weight 116 kg (256 lb; 18 st 4 lb)

    Bradl Thorn
    Height 196 cm (6 ft 5 in)
    Weight 119 kg (18 st 10 lb)

  • Comment 49, posted at 10.05.17 17:10:18 by The hound Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 47) : @robdylan (Comment 48) : Thanks gents, hopefully he is not to far away from the main team and of course has grown his potential.

  • Comment 50, posted at 10.05.17 17:19:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 50) : hmmmm. Not sure what to tell you

  • Comment 51, posted at 10.05.17 17:25:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • Congratulations Ettienne! Best for the future.

  • Comment 52, posted at 10.05.17 17:32:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : :???: If someone would have known it is you, :mrgreen: guess we will have to wait until his name pops up somewhere lol

  • Comment 53, posted at 10.05.17 17:33:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Wow! @thesharksza under16 player jj vander mescht is 2.01m & 115kg …

    @TheSharksZA Under16 player JJ vander Mescht is 2.01m & 115kg,

    This is all I find on him, but it does not show current.

  • Comment 54, posted at 10.05.17 17:39:31 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 53) : no, you misunderstand me. I know what’s up but i don’t want to disappoint you.

  • Comment 55, posted at 10.05.17 17:46:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : So another big guy with a small heart (Lood de Jager comes to mind) :)

  • Comment 56, posted at 10.05.17 18:16:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 55) : Ahhh no problem bro, I see something about him and Essex? So if he is gone he is gone, not the first not the last lol

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.05.17 18:19:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 57) : no, he hasn’t’ gone anywhere. It’s just that he apparently hasn’t developed much since he was under 16 and in some ways actually seems to have gone backwards. I’m hoping it’s just that he’s outgrown schoolboy rugby and can’t really be bothered anymore…. maybe a step up to the next level will revitalise him?

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.05.17 18:26:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : Sad to hear and this is why it is never about size of the body but size of the heart and the will to be the best. He needs someone to guide him but who lol

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.05.17 18:34:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : Have you been able to sniff out any news on Kleinhans?

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.05.17 18:57:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 60) : good question

    @robdylan (Comment 58) : this is unfortunate, sounds like maybe his bored, hopefully with the correct team around him we can revive his potential. sounds like he doesnt really like playing the game anymore. but that can change over time.

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.05.17 19:29:51 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 49) : your time has come my friend, you suggested this months ago and now it seems very viable

    Botha and lewies seem more like 5′s that enforcer 4′s

    Hyron andrew has always been groomed to be the next great 5 and his body shape is not that of a 4.

    droste is a 4 in my estimate but like andrews still young.

    further down the line I dont know much about wian vosloo to comment.

    everyone praises eddie jones for what he did at england, where all he did with the locks was replace bean polls joe and cortney, with slightly shorter about way more mobile around the park Maro Atoje and george kruise. basically playing what other would term blindside flanks at lock, any get losing very little in line out security and stealing ability, thats down to good coaching, structures, player ability and buy in and trusting the players.

    what I see happening with us is we go as far as we can with EO will his still around and then from the cc onward the 4 experiment could happen.

    if it happens as im not sure rob senior is on board and he has the last say, and I defer to him.

    we do have guys that can step in at 8 ginger, keegs, tera (much more comfortable at 8 than flank), khaya majola, and franna has played well there in last years cc.

    I wound how a change of position will affect dans bok chances ?

    next year look to see the team rotate hyron, lewies and botha in super rugby at lock, and maybe maybe dan, or if not dan then droste as he should have bulk up a bit by then

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.05.17 19:44:12 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Eish,eish,eish, the French hey, they only come for the seriously good players, that says it all

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.05.17 08:06:16 by benji Reply
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  • Dan can easily develop into our own Danie Rossouw. Plus don’t you guys know that for the Boks to win a World Cup, we need a lock to play at 8? :smile:

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.05.17 08:08:28 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Also with the muppet still coaching the Boks, I don’t think EO would’ve gotten a look in at the Boks anytime soon, and with the eligibility rule moved from 3 – 5 years now, maybe it is a good time for EO to move now, that way he might still play for France before his career is finished.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.05.17 08:14:41 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : I have no doubt. Think he’d make a very good 4 lock.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.05.17 08:51:32 by Hulk Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 58) : @sharks_lover (Comment 59) : I saw a bit of him playing 2 weeks ago in the Glenwood vs Paarl Boys High game, he looked pretty good to me for such a huge unit. Glenwood battled to get much ball so were basically on the back foot for most of the game but vd Mescht was physical and for such a big chap is pretty quick.
    I have read somewhere that he is staunch Bulls fan and that he will be heading to Pretoria, so the chances of him staying in Durban after matric are very slim.

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.05.17 09:25:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 65) : He must so regret following Jake back from Aussie,he could have been qualified for Dan Vickermann’s slot [no pun intended] at the next WC by now.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.05.17 11:10:38 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : Yeah, he would’ve missed the 5 year rule

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