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April backed at 10


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 18 May 2017 at 12:15
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Rob du Preez has decided against throwing Benhard Janse van Rensburg to the (sun)wolves this week, rather opting to hand Garth April the number 10 jersey for Saturday’s clash in Singapore.

The Sharks have been dealt yet another backline injury blow, with Mike Claassens ruled out with a hamstring injury. Young Rowan Gouws has been flown over and looks set to debut off the bench, with Cobus Reinach starting alongside April. Making a first start at this level is Johan Deysel, replacing injured Jeremy Ward at inside centre.

Lukhanyo Am and Kobus van Wyk retain their positions at 13 and 14 respectively, with Lwazi Mvovo shifting to fullback and Sbu Nkosi coming in for a start at left wing.

Du Preez has rotated the pack, with Thomas du Toit and Chiliboy Ralepelle starting next to Lourens Adriaanse. Stephan Lewies plays alongside Ruan Botha in the second row, with Etienne Oosthuizen moving to the bench. Philip van der Walt leads the team, wearing number 6 in an unchanged loose trio with the du Preez twins.

Sharks: 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Johan Deysel, 11 S’busiso Nkosi, 10 Garth April, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Philip van der Walt (capt), 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Ruan Botha, 3 Lourens Adriaanse, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Thomas du Toit.
Subs: 16 Franco Marais, 17 Beast Mtawarira, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Etienne Oosthuizen, 20 Tera Mtembu, 21 Rowan Gouws, 22 Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 23 S’bura Sithole



252 Comments

  • Dragons!!

    I like Mvovo at 15. Pity about Claasen let’s hope Cobus has one of his rare good games.

  • Comment 1, posted at 18.05.17 12:22:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 1) : he had his good(ish) game last week. Oops

  • Comment 2, posted at 18.05.17 12:30:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 1) : :lol: at ‘Dragons’

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.05.17 12:37:21 by McLovin Reply

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  • Pretty much as anticipated….can’t see Gouws getting game-time unless Reinach gets injured or we lead by 50 points.

    RdP won’t be taking any chances – can’t blame him, pressure is on (well not really, Jags having a bye, and Kings are still a few victories away from challenging for the best loser spot)

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.05.17 12:48:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : Don’t think many here will understand… :grin:

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.05.17 13:17:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 5) : I actually discovered Sharksworld via the Keo website.

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.05.17 13:20:09 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 6) : Same here…..actually Rob came and fetched me from Keo and forced me onto SW.

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.05.17 13:23:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 7) : Someone linked to a SW article in the comments correcting the Keo article. I never went back :grin:

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.05.17 13:27:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 7) : He did the same with me.

    – I saw your “dragons” comment and cringed….that place was an absolute zoo

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.05.17 13:35:32 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Would been fun to see a nkosi and sbura centre combo

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.05.17 13:37:52 by Poisy Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 9) : You spelled clusterfu$% wrong

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.05.17 13:39:18 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 9) : Oh gosh! Bad memories surfacing.

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.05.17 13:40:04 by bokbok Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 11) : Hatred fueled comments turned that place into a war zone – Sharksworld became a safe haven for a lot of us (not that I never indulged in the mud-slinging over there :oops: )

    @bokbok (Comment 12) : We might still need trauma counceling having endured that hole. :twisted:

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.05.17 13:42:54 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 11) : hahaha….I opened a can of worms. Don’t know why I did the ‘Dragons’ thing. Suppose I’m not around that much any more and saw I was the 1st comment. Voldy got very nasty at times. I suppose it’s a large part of the reason for the ‘strict’ rules over here.

    Can anybody remember what Dragons meant?

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.05.17 13:48:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 14) : Apparently a reference to “Here be Dragons” i.e. tread carefully.

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.05.17 13:54:27 by vanmartin Reply
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  • On a completely unrelated topic, I just read about Chris Cornell’s passing. I know a number of musicians have died in the past two years but this one’s particularly sad for me. Was a huge fan :sad:

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.05.17 13:55:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 14) : Not sure, didn’t one of the RW okes start it?

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.05.17 13:57:04 by McLovin Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 15) : Ah yes I think you’re right.

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.05.17 13:58:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 16) : Sad indeed, he did write and perform some classics.

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.05.17 13:59:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I dont see the Hound around anymore?

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.05.17 14:35:45 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • Good work. Seems like we lost probably the most entertaining and interesting voice on here because of name calling. And we bitching about mudslinging on old dead sites :roll:

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.05.17 14:37:41 by West Indies Cricket Board Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 21) : I don’t think we’ve lost him.

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.05.17 14:53:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @West Indies Cricket Board (Comment 21) : You spelled Culling Song wrong. I’m sure he’s still around though.

    This should lure him out: Coldplay is the Beatles of our time, only better.

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.05.17 15:00:15 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 23) : If that doesn’t work, then Beyonce is a firm favourite of his….and if you are really desperate then mention your love for Nickleback.

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.05.17 15:04:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • This is a good team – I like the Tank starting. Hopefully Reinach manages to replicate last week’s game.

    Perhaps Mvovo can rekindle the form he had under JW at fullback

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.05.17 15:12:37 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 13) : lol Yah the dragons comment reminds people of keo, which overall is a bad thing as that place wasnt known for open exchange of ideas and opinions so much as it was known for creative insult (if you want to see something similar but not as bad go to any article on mmafighting.com thats if your a fan of mma)

    however it would be awesome if we had a comment such as that for our first comment, something fun and sharks or music related ?

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.05.17 15:45:09 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 25) : agreed on both counts, mvovo had a powerful boot in him as well, return those kicks interest!!

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.05.17 15:46:53 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 26) : How about “Next Year” or is that a tad too on the nose? :mrgreen: (It’s also a Foo Fighters song)

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.05.17 15:51:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • You guys will be pleased to know that last night I was at a Justin Bieber concert, well outside the stadium waiting to pick up my daughter. Baby, Baby.. :razz:

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.05.17 15:55:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 28) : “in loving memory – 2007″….too soon?

    “Next year” will do, it’ll do just fine.

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.05.17 16:00:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 29) : Your poor daughter – has she gone for counseling?yet. :)

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.05.17 16:02:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 29) : The things we endure for our kids. Good job Salmo!

    @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : Forever too soon :grin:

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.05.17 16:05:12 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 29) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 31) : time to phone Police-files as I’m sure that counts as child abuse!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.05.17 16:26:31 by JD Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 23) : It’s been more than an hour…do you think he really is gone? Please no…

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.05.17 16:35:16 by pastorshark Reply
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  • If I think about (from the ruck/scrum outwards) we have Reinach, then April, then Deysel; lots of pace if the guys can find the space. April has a great step but the whole idea is probably scary to a lot of the young-uns, playing by ear what’s in front of you. That said, of course we must be smart with when to speed up or slow down. Hoping for just one game when the Sharks don’t concede any cards.

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.05.17 16:36:51 by SeanJeff Reply

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  • I like the route RdP gas gone here. Come on, men!!!

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.05.17 16:37:56 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 29) : I would move mountains for my kids…but that sounds like just a bridge too far!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.05.17 16:39:31 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Ive never heard so many adolescent female voices making such a noise before, you could hear them blocks away.

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.05.17 16:41:00 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 29) : My niece is going to the Joburg concert. I am deeply ashamed and am trying to work out what our family did wrong to result in this…

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.05.17 16:42:42 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 37) : :lol: hey Im a martyr, I support the Sharks after all.

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.05.17 16:52:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 39) :Well if you dont have the answer to tthat one then no one will have it :mrgreen: Im sure she will have a blast, its good for friends to let their hair down and have some fun together.

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.05.17 17:00:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 40) : A dentist told me I had an admirable pain threshold. I told him I support the Sharks. We both laughed. I cried a little, but only on the inside.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.05.17 17:04:54 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 33) : …or parent abuse, making her poor dad endure that, no man should have to go through that :)

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.05.17 17:11:02 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 23) : @Pokkel (Comment 24) : I’m trying to decide which of the swear words I learnt this week I should use on the pair of you….

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.05.17 17:18:34 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 44) : Let rip CS i have the popcorn ready :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.05.17 17:37:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I see Hanco Venter is only the reserve 9 in the Sharks xv team this week, damn how he has dropped.

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.05.17 17:39:16 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 45) : I’m just checking with my colleague in Shanghai that I have the pronunciation right. Patience; good thinks come to those who wait

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.05.17 17:50:47 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 47) : Have you left the smog of Witbank for that of China?

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.05.17 17:56:42 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 46) : Seems he only ever aimed to stay behind Ungerer, he’s still there.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.05.17 17:58:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 48) : Just temporarily; I returned this morning

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.05.17 17:59:09 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : lol Love me some foo fighers, so maybe everlong lol ? rob might want something Bob dylan related which in cool with as well as im a big fan.

    I was at cape town stadium to see the foo fighters live, right in front gold circle tickets cost an arm and a leg, and I had to dodge an ex girlfriend, fun times.

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.05.17 18:05:15 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 50) : Welcome back, I’m sure China will never be the same again. :)

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.05.17 18:07:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 51) : Now to patiently wait for a new thread to unveil our brand new “next year” – the suspense will be unbearable. :)

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.05.17 18:10:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 46) : well spotted i was wondering what had happened to him.

    remember he was a baby bok the same year as ungerer.

    him, gouws and stevens to fight it out for a sr place during the cc.

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.05.17 18:13:19 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Very old maps used the term “Here be Dragons” for areas on their maps that were uncharted, i.e. unknown and dangerous. Everyone there assumed that is what it was, but there was a bug in the site that left a stray link to an old article at the top of the comments section for all articles. This link was to an article titled “Welsh Dragons”. The first comment was Dragons?? with an arrow pointing up to the stray link. Then everyone thought it meant something else, and each first idiot to post, posted Dragons. This has been discussed here ad nauseum, can we put it to rest now? And please don’t use the word in the first post anymore, it is meaningless and just brings back bad memories! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.05.17 18:33:33 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 50) : welcome back!!!

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.05.17 18:37:15 by JD Reply
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  • I hear the incidents of kidnapping in pretoria are increasing. People waking up at a bulls game with season tickets tattooed to their left arms….

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.05.17 19:15:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 57) : Also an increase of armed security staff forcing people to stay toll after half time. …

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.05.17 19:16:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 55) : First time I’ve read the proper explanation. Thanks for the history lesson!

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.05.17 19:27:52 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 55) : There was a time on the old innerwebs, where commenters would type “First” like they won a damned competition or race to be able to occupy the first comment.

    Thank goodness those days are gone.

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.05.17 19:42:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 60) : Last! :grin: :lol:

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.05.17 20:15:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 28) : A song that was written a couple of years ago especially for us Shark supporters : Cypris hill insane in the membrane

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.05.17 21:45:41 by HB Reply
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  • @HB (Comment 62) : “insane in the brain!” lol

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.05.17 22:10:09 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : I hope its me that gets it :D

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  • The Sharks Media Release
    SUPERSPORT RUGBY CHALLENGE

    Cell C Sharks vs. Free State
    Date : Saturday, 20 May 2017
    Time : 15h00
    Venue : Ashton College, Ballito
    Referee : Stuart Berry

    Cell C Sharks XV
    1. Ngoni Chidoma
    2. Stephan Coetzee
    3. Gerhard Engelbrecht
    4. Jean Droste
    5. Hyron Andrews
    6. Khaya Majola
    7. Wian Vosloo
    8. Keegan Daniel (v/c)
    9. Damian Stevens
    10. Courtney Winnaar
    11. Morne Joubert
    12. Marius Louw
    13. Tristan Blewett
    14. Odwa Ndungane (c)
    15. Clement Poitrenaud

    Replacements
    16. Kerron van Vuuren
    17. Thierry Kounga
    18. Ruan Kramer
    19. Rikus Zwart
    20. Graham Geldenhuys
    21. Hanco Venter
    22. Danrich Visagie

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.05.17 22:11:33 by BluffShark Reply

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  • I assume Keegan is not favour with Robert…
    and noticeable Clement Poitrenaud is playing

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.05.17 22:13:10 by BluffShark Reply

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  • @HB (Comment 62) : Love that song

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.05.17 23:02:15 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @BluffShark (Comment 66) : I prefer they not rush keegs back like they did lambie. he was in the mix before the injury, he will be vital to us this year, likely he will play sr games.

    im glad the frog stayed with the second team, mvovo does well at fb

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.05.17 00:38:36 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 16) : A lot of listening to Soundgarden going to be happening around these parts over the next couple of days.

    Also a lot of conveniently forgetting that Chris Cornel was part of Audioslave going to be happening around these parts over the next couple of days…

  • Comment 69, posted at 19.05.17 06:22:42 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @HB (Comment 62) : The Cypress Hill song that comes to mind for me is Trouble (from the Stoned Raiders album)

  • Comment 70, posted at 19.05.17 08:11:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 69) : I enjoyed his Audioslave stuff too (might be my Rage Against the Machine bias) and most of his solo work. Come to think of it, I probably just have a serious Chris Cornell bias :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 19.05.17 08:33:10 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 55) : Well if it originally referred to dangerous uncharted territory then it would have been a very appropriate for any new Keo thread .

  • Comment 72, posted at 19.05.17 08:35:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 71) : You enjoyed Audioslave!? You are dead to me… (and I too am heavily pro-RATM and Chris Cornel)

  • Comment 73, posted at 19.05.17 08:48:00 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 72) : Keo was useful for blowing off some steam, just had to remember not to take the blow-back personally…..I guess that goes for all things social media: don’t take it personally.

  • Comment 74, posted at 19.05.17 09:05:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 73) : This aggression will not stand, man.

  • Comment 75, posted at 19.05.17 09:07:00 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 70) : ahh, you out witted me with a better one there, actually completely forgot about it, until you strung the memory cord there

  • Comment 76, posted at 19.05.17 09:28:27 by HB Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 60) : I think rugby blogging has lost a lot of its appeal to many people or they have just moved on. In those days you had to constantly update to stay with the thread. Games were comented on live by numerous contributors. Its way more settled and civilized now.

  • Comment 77, posted at 19.05.17 09:59:41 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 74) : If you were into stirring it was the place to be, mind you there were many there that gave as good as they got. Someone should take all those archived threads and do a thesis on social media studies just on that.

  • Comment 78, posted at 19.05.17 10:03:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 77) : this development is not lost on me. In fact, in many ways, this place feels like a bit of an anachronism, but one that people still seem to appreciate all the same.

  • Comment 79, posted at 19.05.17 10:03:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : Things are still good here in comparison with any other SA site that I know. Other than the slow, out of season, period there is always some discussion going on for most of the day. Some sites post more (many more) articles than comments that they receive in an entire day. Other sites will get 100 comments per thread but then it is only one person posting his comments on a live game.

  • Comment 80, posted at 19.05.17 10:20:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 77) : I think back in the Keo days, the appetite for rugby still ran strong.

    That was just after we won the world cup, and had two teams competing in a SR final.

    We also had the Lions tour looming, a strength Vs strength SR comp, and a controversial yet successful Bok coach.

    Now, rugby in SA has become worse than stale bread, rubbish Bok team, rubbish SR format, with rubbish SR teams getting hammered by half-centuries on a weekly basis.

  • Comment 81, posted at 19.05.17 10:39:23 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : Said it before. It’s the site rules that makes SW the exception to the norm. That’s the differentiator. It prevents every discussion from devolving into the same arguments which immediately bores everyone and they then resort to insults. It forces everyone on here to try a little harder; even the insults on here tend to be a little better thought out.

    Except for Culling Song. The guy promises choice swear words and here we all are, still waiting…

  • Comment 82, posted at 19.05.17 10:39:59 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) : I remember when we had threads on here for every single game.

    Now, this Saders Vs Chiefs game as an example, has zero bearing on the Sharks – so we don’t care about most games except for the Jaguars (Lions are untouchable).

    This new format of SR has seriously hampered the game.

  • Comment 83, posted at 19.05.17 10:44:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 83) : the decisio to drop match threads for non-Sharks games was a tough one to make, but it came jointly out of a desire to protect my own sanity and free time and also the fact the nobody was commenting on those games at all.

  • Comment 84, posted at 19.05.17 10:49:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : if you willing and there are some of the guys that want to, and only if there is someone to start a tread on other games, will you give it a thought maybe again?

  • Comment 85, posted at 19.05.17 10:53:49 by HB Reply
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  • @HB (Comment 85) : Use the Predictions thread for the week

  • Comment 86, posted at 19.05.17 10:55:58 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 75) : Sorry. But Audioslave is a sore point for me. The mismatch between the heights of my expectation, and the depths plumbed by the debut album caused me serious mental scarring. Of all the music I have accumulated over the years there’s not much that I regret spending money on, but Audioslave tops that list by a country mile. The Lord did not take so many bright, flowering young men at Khe Sang, at Langdok, at Hill 364, to listen to this shit…

  • Comment 87, posted at 19.05.17 10:56:47 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : It was a good decision – this is a Sharks supporter site after all, only one game that matters – B&W

  • Comment 88, posted at 19.05.17 11:14:03 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 87) : That sir, was very well done.

  • Comment 89, posted at 19.05.17 11:24:30 by vanmartin Reply
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  • When Voldy changed from anonymous logins to social media logins (Facebook) there were far less posts and far less attacks. Seems people are less inclined to be a$$holes when their identity is known.

  • Comment 90, posted at 19.05.17 13:08:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 68) :

    The difference is that Keegan has already played 2/3 games for the XV. So it’s not a question of rushing him back anymore. We might lack experience and leadership (especially in the forwards) with all the injuries…

    Buy as I said he is clearly not in favour of Keegan.

  • Comment 91, posted at 19.05.17 15:10:27 by BluffShark Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 90) : Yes cyber bravado, to coin a phrase. But without anonymity how many people would also render honest opinions, given the ridiculous possibilities of prosecution. Freedom of speech Is a contradictory concept as far as Internet is concerned.

  • Comment 92, posted at 19.05.17 15:19:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 92) : You make a very good point, however, I have to say as an IT Security professional, in most cases, supposed anonymity will not protect a person from prosecution. A simple analysis of the network traffic associated with an anonymous post will usually identify the “anonymous” source quite easily. If most people knew this, I suppose things would be different, but I strongly believe that for most people cyber bravado is a very real thing.

  • Comment 93, posted at 19.05.17 16:44:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 93) : You must’ve had your hands full this past weekend?

    That was quite the attack, I see even Pirates of the Caribbean is being held for ransom….crazy stuff.

  • Comment 94, posted at 19.05.17 17:16:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 94) : Makes one WANNA CRY!!!! LOL

    If, as an IT Security Professional, you did your job properly (and had sufficient funding) it had virtually zero effect. Not a problem for me, of course we have not allowed Windows XP and Windows 8 on our network for years. (actually never allowed Windows 8).

    Oh and by the way, if you think it is really held for ransom, you are off the mark, payment of the demanded amount will very unlikely result in recovery of files. Cloud storage and backups is the answer to all this ransomware crap, just most people are not very good about this.

  • Comment 95, posted at 19.05.17 17:35:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 94) : Also take most of what you hear about cyber attacks with a grain of salt. If you think that the Sony hack a couple years ago happened in the way it was reported, you would be so far off the mark. I don’t want to post anything here, but it had far more to do with insurance, and almost nothing to do with the North Koreans.

  • Comment 96, posted at 19.05.17 17:38:34 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 93) : For the average Joe sure. But with carefully crafted identity using free services and vpn ‘ s you can evade those surface checks. But most people don’t build deeply nested identity.

  • Comment 97, posted at 19.05.17 17:39:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 97) : Vpn and TOR proxies can hide one quite well.

  • Comment 98, posted at 19.05.17 17:40:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 95) : Win 10 better than Win8 security wise?

    Cloud storage is a good idea, except when you need to pay for it, then you’re also basically being held for ransom – quit paying for you cloud storage, and you data is just as lost.

    Yeah I saw about that one hospital that paid the ransom, and then was held ransom for more money.

  • Comment 99, posted at 19.05.17 17:41:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 96) : Also this last one was more oppertunistic relying on lax patching policies more than anything. Crypto and ransom attacks mainly are opportunity attacks more than raw hacking talent. Human element stuff.

  • Comment 100, posted at 19.05.17 17:43:19 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 99) : Built old copied crypto to which the attacker does even have the keys since it’s just a script kiddie who recompiled someone’s old Warez.

  • Comment 101, posted at 19.05.17 17:45:16 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 101) : Doesn’t have the keys I meant

  • Comment 102, posted at 19.05.17 17:46:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 98) : Until the VPN gets debunked, then your identity is available to authorities…tor has also been breached, through JavaScript.

    The guy from silkroads (the original) was caught because he outed his screen name on a public forum – long before he became wanted for silkroads….some or other agency worker went through all those comments and was able to tie the kid through that tiny slip-up to silkroads.

    I find this stuff extremely interesting, wish I had some actual knowledge of the dark arts of IT.

  • Comment 103, posted at 19.05.17 17:49:11 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 103) : Nope vpn can stay secure you must just remain diligent not use outdated structures like sha1, cycle key pairs often protect backends properly with good IAM policy. It all comes down to human failure.

  • Comment 104, posted at 19.05.17 17:52:19 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 101) : Sure is fun talking to you tech guys.

    So in that case, the kid holding your HDD ransom couldn’t unlock it even if he tried?

    If I’m not mistaken, windows themselves published the exploitable flaw before it was actually exploited.

  • Comment 105, posted at 19.05.17 17:52:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 105) : No cause he recompiled some one else stuff he doesn’t have original keys just the code to encrypt not decrypt. You are stupid to pay and even if he could are you relying on the integrity if a scumbag to keep his word?

  • Comment 106, posted at 19.05.17 17:54:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 98) : Not really true. Can still be traced with the right knowledge and tools.

  • Comment 107, posted at 19.05.17 17:56:23 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 105) : Go to a site called udemy they offer an insightful course in cryptology for beginners.

  • Comment 108, posted at 19.05.17 17:57:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 99) : Yes, Windows 10 much better than 8 regarding security. 8 and XP were vulnerable to WANNA CRY, Windows 7 and 10 were not.

  • Comment 109, posted at 19.05.17 17:57:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • This thread has now encompassed every possible iteration of everyday life…..when the rugby’s dull, we’ll find something to talk about.

  • Comment 110, posted at 19.05.17 17:58:25 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 108) : UDEMY offers great IT courses on lots of different and useful things. We use it all the time.

  • Comment 111, posted at 19.05.17 18:00:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 109) : Damnit, that’s bad news for me. Win10 does not support my plotter driver, and I ain’t buying a new plotter just because of driver issues.

    Guess I just do regular backups.

  • Comment 112, posted at 19.05.17 18:01:08 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Coolfusion is right, this last episode was kind of dull, anybody who is diligent keeping their machines patched did not have a problem. The Sony hack was far more fun to dig into. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 113, posted at 19.05.17 18:01:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 112) : That is unusual, most Windows 8 drivers will also work in a Windows 10 environment. Have you looked into that (using the Windows 8 drivers in Windows 10?)

  • Comment 114, posted at 19.05.17 18:03:00 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 107) : Takes too much time. Enough time for a carefully crafted ID to move on. Depends on the attacker. Else they would have cracked down on ramsomware syndicates much quicker. Time and effort are against you. Best you can do is contain and secure. Maybe if you had extensive rights, treaties and presence like nsa or cia to request access to other protected systems but normal corporations don’t have the resources.

  • Comment 115, posted at 19.05.17 18:03:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 115) : You make good points, but what you said before is very accurate, ransomware is more of a human problem.

  • Comment 116, posted at 19.05.17 18:03:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 115) : Blades….break the source!

  • Comment 117, posted at 19.05.17 18:05:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 112) : When xp got outdated I managed to track drivers via f cc numbers tracking the original chip manufacturer and finding their drivers or compatible drivers. Most of what you buy is someone selling rebranded stuff under their name using their drivers. But most cases there is a way.

  • Comment 118, posted at 19.05.17 18:05:42 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 114) : No I haven’t, but that gives me hope….will try it as soon as I upgrade my laptop, then I at least won’t have to roll back to Win8.

  • Comment 119, posted at 19.05.17 18:05:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 108) : Am checking it out right now

  • Comment 120, posted at 19.05.17 18:07:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 114) : Ja correct xp to win 8 may be a problem but 8 and 10 is basically same architecture and a dresses the hardware abstraction layers the same way. Very rare that an 8 driver won’t work. You did of course go from a 64 to 64 bit as well presumably?

  • Comment 121, posted at 19.05.17 18:08:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 121) : Right, 32 bit drivers and 64 bit OS don’t like each other much, and vice versa. Good point.

  • Comment 122, posted at 19.05.17 18:10:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 121) : Yep it will be 64bit to 64bit.

  • Comment 123, posted at 19.05.17 18:11:30 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 123) : Did your windows updates as well not just security that gets updated you also get updates for hw but you have to specify you want those updates.

  • Comment 124, posted at 19.05.17 18:13:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 124) : Thanks for the advice guys, you’ve been a great help.

  • Comment 125, posted at 19.05.17 18:15:30 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 125) : No problem bud. There is always snmp as well to sniff out oid codes. Everything is hackable.

  • Comment 126, posted at 19.05.17 18:16:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 125) : You could always send me details of the device if I have the time it can help you break it.

  • Comment 127, posted at 19.05.17 18:18:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 127) : I always have a lab at hand with various os and flavors to test.

  • Comment 128, posted at 19.05.17 18:20:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 127) : What an offer, I’ll be sure to take you up on it should I require it. Thanks a million.

  • Comment 129, posted at 19.05.17 18:24:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 128) : I’ve been in management too long to have a lab anymore. You looking for a job? Always looking for good engineers for my programs….you would have to move to the USA (washington DC) though :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 130, posted at 19.05.17 18:27:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 130) : Move to USA? Not to sound unpatriotic but any day. I’m bound to some contracts currently though. And our contacts are a little tougher than the SA player contracts eh? Wink wink.

  • Comment 131, posted at 19.05.17 18:36:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 130) : How close to leaked emails are you ;)

  • Comment 132, posted at 19.05.17 18:49:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 132) : LOL very very far, I am far too strict on myself.

  • Comment 133, posted at 19.05.17 18:52:49 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 131) : It is kind of hard to enforce a contract or even a non-compete clause in a different country. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: You really don’t want to be on a contract here in the US, so called Right to Work states make it far better for you to be employed, benefits are far superior. Of course “Right to Work” cuts both ways, and you can be let go for no reason whatsoever at your employer’s pleasure.

  • Comment 134, posted at 19.05.17 18:56:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 133) : Don’t want to get suicided by two bullets to the head, or botched mugged with two bullets to your back….yeah, safety first – lest they accuse you of being Russian. :twisted:

  • Comment 135, posted at 19.05.17 18:56:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 134) : I must confess I don’t know the legality suffice it to say my employer is a UK based entity one of the largest in their space with presence in almost every country. I’ve always wanted to find out more about the laws governing employment in countries such as us especially concerning the kind of permits visas etc one must obtain to be legally employed without owning a green card etc. As I said I’m a noob I’ve never actually found out all the options.

  • Comment 136, posted at 19.05.17 19:02:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 135) : You want to ensure mails are not leaked or trace leaked mails or what? Remember smtp and mime are inherently weak often enforced enhanced by other means of security such as certs secured smart hosts etc. Usually at different network layers.

  • Comment 137, posted at 19.05.17 19:05:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 135) : Dude you sound like your into some spy shit. Is your last name Snowden?

  • Comment 138, posted at 19.05.17 19:12:09 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 136) : Temporary work visas in the USA (a majority of them) are either H-1B or H-2B. H-1B is a specialty worker (permanent) which means the hiring company has to show that the individual has skills not readily available from local employees. H-2B is for temporary workers (non-agricultural). Application for H-1B is made jointly between employer and employee. Hope that helps some.

    The right to work issue I brought up above is state law not federal law, so it differs state to state.

  • Comment 139, posted at 19.05.17 19:17:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 137) : LOL 100% there is no such thing as a secure email. I am just extremely careful about what I send in emails.

  • Comment 140, posted at 19.05.17 19:18:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 135) : Or worse “colluding with the Russians” :lol:

  • Comment 141, posted at 19.05.17 19:18:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 138) : Just following yank fake news and real news – lots of people mysteriously dying as soon as they get close to the truth……never cared for anything US, then Trump won and it’s full blown information war over there…..some seriously dirty buggers entrenched in their politics, and they are fighting tooth and nail to stay out of the light.

    If I was Snowden, I wouldn’t be this tech stupid….:)

  • Comment 142, posted at 19.05.17 19:19:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 139) : Where would one go and read up on such things? I know new Zealand has companies specialising in migrant workers and laws and requirements. I’ve never seen such a body for US though.

  • Comment 143, posted at 19.05.17 19:19:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 142) : He got caught didn’t he?

  • Comment 144, posted at 19.05.17 19:20:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 142) : So you are afraid they might be profiling you on keywords etc? My suggestion, have a beer and watch less tv maybe?

  • Comment 145, posted at 19.05.17 19:21:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 144) : I’d say not being caught puts you ahead him so far…

  • Comment 146, posted at 19.05.17 19:22:16 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 141) : Oh no, fake news will call for your public hanging….Russian collusion is only acceptable when it’s Obama and Hillary.

    Funniest is the Cia’s memetics department, an actual meme department – information/propaganda war is a real thing.

  • Comment 147, posted at 19.05.17 19:23:09 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 143) : In the US, it is usually private attorneys that guide companies and employees through the foreign employee nightmare. Let me find some information and I will post it for you next time we are online at the same time.

  • Comment 148, posted at 19.05.17 19:23:27 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 147) : shhhhhh I worked for a company owned by a Russian immigrant to the US for 6 weeks…..trying to bury that now. :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 149, posted at 19.05.17 19:26:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 144) : Nope, he outed himself to mainstream media, after he fled to Hong Kong (and now Russia)….which is probably why he’s still alive. Seth Rich on the other hand, leaked 40k plus emails to Wikileaks, and was botched robbed two days later….he dead now.

  • Comment 150, posted at 19.05.17 19:26:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 148) : Cool thanks.

  • Comment 151, posted at 19.05.17 19:26:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 150) : Or he outed himself cause he knew he was exposed and their is some safety on having a public spotlight on your person in such circumstances rather than remaining obscure and easy to knock off? Just kidding you I don’t know his whole story…

  • Comment 152, posted at 19.05.17 19:28:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 152) : Watched the movie about him, very insightful.

    Saw Julian Assange (Wikileaks) had charges of sexual assault dropped, having had these charges over his head for 7years in Austria….dunno if he was under house arrest over there for all this time.

  • Comment 153, posted at 19.05.17 19:32:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 152) : @FireTheLooser (Comment 150) : I follow this extensively but wont discuss in here, So much i could tell you and show you how the Democrats and CIA along with the deep state are colluding,

  • Comment 154, posted at 19.05.17 19:34:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 153) : Ja dude look their is just so much info out there. A lot is very hard to verify source. And history is written by the victors, or most influential. So how do you spend your time wondering if the version of truth you read is true or manufactured to serve some other, longer game. It difficult I tell ya.

  • Comment 155, posted at 19.05.17 19:35:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 153) : Julian Assange? @JulianAssange 4h4 hours ago
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    Detained for 7 years without charge by while my children grew up and my name was slandered. I do not forgive or forget.

    Julian was framed, spent 7 years in the Ecuadorian Embassy in the UK

  • Comment 156, posted at 19.05.17 19:37:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 154) : We can always discuss on r/the_donald, or for the Keo version of social media, Voat (v/thedonald – voat is pretty much all over their subs eyes open about the deepstate, unlike most of propaganda driven reddit, just as I say, very keo-esque).

  • Comment 157, posted at 19.05.17 19:39:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 157) : I chat with the like of Sean Hannity, etc etc

  • Comment 158, posted at 19.05.17 19:41:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 157) : Oh hell no more Keo style for me :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 159, posted at 19.05.17 19:42:05 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 156) : Yeah saw that tweet, didn’t know he was stuck in that embassy for all this time though.

    Yank politics and leaks are tons more interesting than any other in the world, being run by globalists.

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  • Stormers are down 12-0, conversion to come for Blues.

    Miss, and EE again involved in fights.

  • Comment 161, posted at 19.05.17 19:43:50 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 160) : Here is a name you will recognize behind the years of unrest in SA…. George Soros,

  • Comment 162, posted at 19.05.17 19:45:21 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 161) : That ‘fight’ was just dof beyond measure..

  • Comment 163, posted at 19.05.17 19:45:38 by McLovin Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 161) : Effy-beth, worst 4-lock in rugby – shrugs the hard work, but loves looking like the breeker on camera.

    Should stick to bar fights, sadly the show pony will once again stroll into the bok team.

  • Comment 164, posted at 19.05.17 19:46:50 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 160) : Check this link and see why the world has the Fake news it has. and BTW this person you will hear has been Murdered like Seth Rich.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/world-class-journalist-spills-the-beans-admits-mainstream-media-is-completely-fake/5516749

  • Comment 165, posted at 19.05.17 19:47:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 163) : So unnecessary, but the Blues 8 started it not Eben, again our local officials are useless.

  • Comment 166, posted at 19.05.17 19:48:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 162) : Sadly his ilk is winning the info war over here….treading mud in the US right now, but working ( read bankrolling) very hard behind the scenes.

  • Comment 167, posted at 19.05.17 19:49:04 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 164) : True, he should grow up some.

  • Comment 168, posted at 19.05.17 19:50:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 165) : Will check it out as soon as I’m on my laptop (using app right now).

    Rob will be getting notice from the CIA regarding this thread.

  • Comment 169, posted at 19.05.17 19:51:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 166) : I think they meant Eben started it. But it didn’t sound good.

  • Comment 170, posted at 19.05.17 19:54:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 167) : Trust me I know and unless things change fast there could well be civil war, the problem in the USA is that they have been infiltrated from within and from outside the borders etc and that is why there is turmoil.

  • Comment 171, posted at 19.05.17 19:56:29 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 164) : Have to slightly disagree on the hard work part, but his ‘rough stuff’ too often detracts from any good he might do and he ends up looking liking a prize plum.

  • Comment 172, posted at 19.05.17 19:57:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 169) : :lol: follow me on twitter mate, t_jacoby

  • Comment 173, posted at 19.05.17 19:57:50 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 170) : The Blues 8 started it by shoving Eben against the shoulder from which he responded

  • Comment 174, posted at 19.05.17 19:58:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 171) : I’ve got my tin foil hat ready. Just let me know when I should put it on. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 175, posted at 19.05.17 19:59:04 by McLovin Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 171) : That”s a worldwide agenda. Certain populations just need different avenues of manipulation but the end result will be the same.

  • Comment 176, posted at 19.05.17 20:00:27 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 167) : They wining the info war as it is the globalists that own all the newspapers and TV stations etc. NYTimes for example own by some Mexican kingpin. but the article link i sent you will explain a lot.

  • Comment 177, posted at 19.05.17 20:00:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 174) : Eben started it. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 178, posted at 19.05.17 20:00:59 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 175) : I never take mine off :mrgreen:

  • Comment 179, posted at 19.05.17 20:01:16 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 176) : Of course, the elites and globalists want a new world order, George Soros for example makes his money from collapsing economies, one of the reasons he is wanted dead or alive in many countries like Russia, George Soros was Hitler apologist and behind millions of Jews being sent to the gas chambers, he made his fortunes then by robbing the Jews he had sent to their deaths.

  • Comment 180, posted at 19.05.17 20:03:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 177) : People are waking up, though. So much so that SHTF is not far off.

  • Comment 181, posted at 19.05.17 20:03:39 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 181) : Trust me mate they need to wake up fast because the world is in deep KAK, :lol:

  • Comment 182, posted at 19.05.17 20:04:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 180) : I know. Google Colgate’s role in the funding of Auschwitz.

  • Comment 183, posted at 19.05.17 20:05:31 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 169) : A ? for you, how many people do you think has suddenly died that wanted to testify against the like of the Clintons?

  • Comment 184, posted at 19.05.17 20:06:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 182) : My Bug Out Bag has been ready for ages :lol:

  • Comment 185, posted at 19.05.17 20:06:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 180) : You have actual hard evidence for those claims?

  • Comment 186, posted at 19.05.17 20:07:31 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 186) : Yes, and yes some comes from Wikileaks, who by the way has never had to retract a published fact from their side.

  • Comment 187, posted at 19.05.17 20:09:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Actually enough of this chat in here lol, FTL follow me on Twitter will show you stuff there. @FireTheLooser (Comment 169) :

  • Comment 188, posted at 19.05.17 20:10:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Blues score again, 19-10 to the Blues

  • Comment 189, posted at 19.05.17 20:11:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • High tackle on Blues player by Stormer 12 and Blues on Stormer tryline again.

  • Comment 190, posted at 19.05.17 20:12:22 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • SBW having a good game.

  • Comment 191, posted at 19.05.17 20:14:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 187) : I call bullshit. Sounds like your typical crackpot conspiracy theorist nonsense.

  • Comment 192, posted at 19.05.17 20:14:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 192) : Prove me wrong dude, because you do not have knowledge does not mean everyone else has their head in the sand, and i seriously could not care less what you believe or do not believe

  • Comment 193, posted at 19.05.17 20:15:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 193) : Not how it works old boy. You make the claims you prove it.

  • Comment 194, posted at 19.05.17 20:19:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 194) : Dude I do not need to prove anything to you, you were not even a part of the convo, now run along, I mentioned names go google for yourself stop being a lazy twat.

  • Comment 195, posted at 19.05.17 20:21:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 183) : Did not know that,

  • Comment 196, posted at 19.05.17 20:22:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 173) : Means I need to get back on that cesspool called Twitter.

  • Comment 197, posted at 19.05.17 20:23:46 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 197) : :lol: Mate I understand but i do not want to show that stuff in here or actually even discuss it in here,

  • Comment 198, posted at 19.05.17 20:25:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Kolisi having a good game.

  • Comment 199, posted at 19.05.17 20:26:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 172) : Think u right witb Etterbeth, since trying to push SBW around tonight, and he came back, he has done a shit load full of fuck all, just standing and hiding around on the field

  • Comment 200, posted at 19.05.17 20:26:40 by HB Reply
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  • Blues defense is very good.

  • Comment 201, posted at 19.05.17 20:27:18 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Leyds scores 20-19 Stormers

  • Comment 202, posted at 19.05.17 20:28:19 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 195) : I have, little to no credibility. Any actual experts?

  • Comment 203, posted at 19.05.17 20:28:44 by McLovin Reply

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  • Please don’t let DdA score!

  • Comment 204, posted at 19.05.17 20:28:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Stormers probably loving van heerden as he is the absolute best ref in the world and we can see all of his class on display tonight

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  • Thanks Leyds!

  • Comment 206, posted at 19.05.17 20:30:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Entertaining stuff this.

  • Comment 207, posted at 19.05.17 20:32:54 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • SBW ran over DDA :lol:

  • Comment 208, posted at 19.05.17 20:33:05 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 207) : Loved how dda got smashed onto his ass now

  • Comment 209, posted at 19.05.17 20:33:41 by HB Reply
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  • @HB (Comment 209) : I sense a club forming

  • Comment 210, posted at 19.05.17 20:34:37 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 210) : If it is anything to do with how Dda is seing his ass, i will be a volunteer for shit removal fir life just to be part of the club

  • Comment 211, posted at 19.05.17 20:36:11 by HB Reply
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  • Blues player gets RED, now Stormer player knocks on 5 meters from Blues line.

  • Comment 212, posted at 19.05.17 20:40:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @HB (Comment 211) : :lol:

  • Comment 213, posted at 19.05.17 20:41:30 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Crawling, for a fisherman from the stormers it is also called trawling

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  • Stormers butcher a try imo. TMO to decide.

  • Comment 215, posted at 19.05.17 20:44:29 by McLovin Reply

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  • Brilliant refereeing. :twisted:

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  • Van heerden gives the try, bloody brilliant reffing this, oh my bad was not a double movement but a quadruple movement, sorry got all my pigs on the loose tonight

  • Comment 217, posted at 19.05.17 20:45:53 by HB Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 216) : Outstanding :lol:

  • Comment 218, posted at 19.05.17 20:46:19 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 216) : Ref almost as brilliant as Etterbeth is on hiding on the field between smaller guys, they both super amazing

  • Comment 219, posted at 19.05.17 20:47:02 by HB Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 218) : Even I’m finding it hard to just say nice things about the officials. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 220, posted at 19.05.17 20:49:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @HB (Comment 219) : The most depressing thought is that Etzebeth and PSdT are going to be the Bok locks.

  • Comment 221, posted at 19.05.17 20:50:12 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Van heerden like great red wine, getting better and better as the night goes on, best display i have seen from him in forever

  • Comment 222, posted at 19.05.17 20:50:28 by HB Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 220) : You’re doing well :mrgreen:

  • Comment 223, posted at 19.05.17 20:50:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 221) : That is a given, and enough to make me like AC even less that what i currently do

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  • @HB (Comment 219) : He’s great. Shoe-in for the Boks. A real superstar.

  • Comment 225, posted at 19.05.17 20:52:03 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 225) : He is the best, so much of the whole world evening entertainment is all due to him being so creative and bamboozeling

  • Comment 226, posted at 19.05.17 20:53:21 by HB Reply
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  • Eben & PSdT bok locks? Surely a conspiracy by the Cape Town illuminati. :twisted:

  • Comment 227, posted at 19.05.17 20:53:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • Everybody knows the Bok selectors and coaching staff are manipulated by the Cape press.

  • Comment 228, posted at 19.05.17 20:54:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • Stormers are going to win. :shock:

    Talking so much kak, I almost missed it. :lol:

  • Comment 229, posted at 19.05.17 20:55:26 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 228) : Think van heerden has a hand in that selection also, and he is keeping the players down to earth, and making him the center so it os not that obvious

  • Comment 230, posted at 19.05.17 20:56:16 by HB Reply
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  • 2 out of 5 Kiwi sides beaten.

    Would have taken that at the start of the season.

  • Comment 231, posted at 19.05.17 20:56:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • Lots of big love between the stormers and blues after the game

  • Comment 232, posted at 19.05.17 20:57:35 by HB Reply
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  • @HB (Comment 224) : That’s not the problem, though. The likes of Retallick, Whitelock, Bird, etc. perform week in and week out. Our guys have little flashes of pseudo dominance every now and then. No coach in SA will change that.

    Oh…. and congrats Stormers!!

  • Comment 233, posted at 19.05.17 20:58:00 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Enjoyed the game and the banter. Thanks gents!

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 233) : Thos guys are real hard working and talented locks, a shame that we will have to be content with Pieterbeth as the lock combination, as they not the best in sa by a country mile, Etterbeth is the best with flashing eys, and pulling clown faces, but that is about it, they will crush these guys

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  • Blues 5th out of 5 kiwi sides. I think tonight we saw why.

  • Comment 236, posted at 19.05.17 21:02:35 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 234) : Best of all is that the stormers already won SR according to Cape news, although the Sharks still have more log points even after the rebels and kings game :)

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  • Thanx Gents, really loved all the banter and shinanigans going on during the game, and thanx for being a sport, really enjoyed it

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  • I won’t be shocked by a predominantly streamers bok team – AC can’t figure out how to change the Lions players to fit his game plan. :roll:

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 234) : Cheerio.

  • Comment 240, posted at 19.05.17 21:05:21 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 236) : They were poor, and streamers only just managed to beat them…..at home.

    Bok team being made up out of these brand name type players will supply us with many more years of heart ache.

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  • Suppose I have to go too. Such fun tonight. Thanks to all.

  • Comment 242, posted at 19.05.17 21:07:52 by McLovin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 241) : And Blues only had 14 men on the field for a fair while.

  • Comment 243, posted at 19.05.17 21:08:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 241) : Problem in SA is the coaching not so much the players. But subject for another day.

  • Comment 244, posted at 19.05.17 21:10:07 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 242) : You’ve had the privilege of enjoying team talk, music talk, obituary talk, tech-talk, conspiracy talk, and some rugby breaking out here at the end – what a thread this turned out to be. :)

  • Comment 245, posted at 19.05.17 21:10:33 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 245) : These are the kind of threads I love. Just hope the CIA don’t come knocking tonight. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 246, posted at 19.05.17 21:13:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 246) : Us shark supporters may not have a mountain, bit we do have the best threads and banter in any business

  • Comment 247, posted at 19.05.17 21:17:33 by HB Reply
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  • Really going now. Toodle pip everyone.

  • Comment 248, posted at 19.05.17 21:23:41 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 246) : If they knock, we don’t mind, it when the surveil without even asking that it feels slightly intrusive ;)

  • Comment 249, posted at 19.05.17 21:48:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 180) :

    George Soros was 15 years old in 1945.

    Can you explain to us how as a 13 or 14 year old boy was he sending millions of Jews to their deaths?

  • Comment 250, posted at 20.05.17 00:55:40 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 143) :

    If your employer has operations in the US and they want to transfer you it will be relatively easy. They just have to demonstrate that you have a special skill that is crucial for the business.
    The H1 style visas are harder. They are for categories of professions such as engineers, scientists, nurses and therapists for which there has been deemed to be a shortage. You must have a job offer and the company must prove that they have advertised the job and was not able to find suitable candidates. Be careful of lawyers and firms that advertise visa services, most are scams. Typically for the professions in high demand and easy paths to a visa there will be recruiters doing the rounds with genuine job offers and they won’t charge upfront fees.

  • Comment 251, posted at 20.05.17 01:23:04 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 250) : Go read his own book,

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