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Mapoe in for second test


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 15 Jun 2017 at 14:11
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Allister Coetzee has kept changes to a minimum ahead of Saturday’s second test against the French, making just one injury-enforced switch to his line-up for the match at Kings Park.

Lionel Mapoe comes in for injured Jesse Kriel at outside centre, with Coetzee opting for a specialist replacement in the crucial position, rather than promoting Frans Steyn from the bench and possibly switching Jan Serfontein to 13.

“Jan Serfontein had a very good match at inside centre in Pretoria and we wanted a specialist at No 13 as replacement for Jesse, so Mapoe is a logical choice. It also means we’re preventing making two changes to the team,” said Coetzee of the selection.

Warren Whiteley leads an unchanged pack and the in-form Lions now boast no fewer than eight players in the starting fifteen.

The Springbok team to face France in Durban:
15. Andries Coetzee (Emirates Lions), 1 caps, 0 points
14. Raymond Rhule (Toyota Cheetahs), 1, 0
13. Lionel Mapoe (Emirates Lions), 11, 0
12. Jan Serfontein (Vodacom Bulls), 27, 15 (3t)
11. Courtnall Skosan (Emirates Lions), 1, 0
10. Elton Jantjies (Emirates Lions), 12, 95 (16c, 21p)
9. Ross Cronje (Emirates Lions), 1, 5 (1t)
8. Warren Whiteley (Emirates Lions, captain), 16, 15 (3t)
7. Oupa Mohoje (Toyota Cheetahs), 16, 0
6. Siya Kolisi (DHL Stormers), 17, 0
5. Franco Mostert (Emirates Lions), 8, 0
4. Eben Etzebeth (DHL Stormers), 55, 10 (2t)
3. Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), 16, 0
2. Malcolm Marx (Emirates Lions), 3, 0
1. Tendai Mtawarira (Cell C Sharks), 88, 10 (2t)
Replacements:
16. Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers), 6, 0
17. Steven Kitshoff (Bordeaux-Bègles, France), 11, 0
18. Coenie Oosthuizen (Cell C Sharks), 24, 15 (3t)
19. Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers), 22, 15 (3t)
20. Jean-Luc du Preez (Cell C Sharks), 2, 0
21. Francois Hougaard (Worcester Warriors, England), 40, 25 (5t)
22. Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France), 54, 132 (10t, 5c, 21p, 3d)
23. Dillyn Leyds (DHL Stormers), 1, 0



29 Comments

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  • Comment 1, posted at 15.06.17 16:54:02 by Poisy Reply
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  • It’s safe logic. Not necessarily game winning but safe. Frans is definitely more experienced and capable of breaking the line and defending it than Jan though. Maybe a Steyn Mapoe combo with jan covering both from the bench. Let’s see how it plays out. Also with Frans on the bench he has cover for fh fb Centre.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.06.17 17:42:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Seems like a waste of a very big (and expensive) gun though.

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.06.17 17:46:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Maybe I’m being prissy, but the team looks like a Lions XV (with honored guests); I can’t get excited about it. 1 Shark in the starting XV – we’re not that bad.

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.06.17 19:21:47 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 4) : To be honest, though, which Sharks would you justifiably bring in? I’d go with JLdP…and maybe one of our locks…but that’s about it right now…

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.06.17 20:11:36 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 5) : That’s as may be, however it doesn’t diminish the fan-boy-ism fascination with the lions where weaknesses are glossed over and fawning praise is uttered over and over. As if Warren Whiteley were a centrefold pin-up in a ‘dirty’ rugby magazine. Realistically, Whitely is – in my opinion – not the leading #8 available, he’s there because primarily he’s captain. Vermeulen is better (and more experienced) and could captain, and I’ve got a soft spot for Philip van der Walt. Mvovo has lost a little form but he’s cast aside to the SA ‘A’, though I think he’s got game-breaker ability. Kobus van Wyk has been as impactful at the Sharks as any lions wing. And I can’t explain it, and maybe its a primal thing, but I don’t like Elton in the least (I suppose in the same way that some don’t like Lambie); thus far in the first game Jantjies has played against a B French side, I think the Rugby Championship will show him up. And let us assume for a moment that Am were not injured…don’t you think that Mapoe would still get preference because he’s a lion? I’m a bit sore about it because the lions have got away with a lot of penalties not given and forward passes ignored because of the pace they play. I just can’t get around that and see them all in green as representing the country…but then maybe I’m just a party pooper.

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.06.17 20:39:16 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 6) : The most irritating are those Lions fans suddenly declaring their undying support for the Boks, and attacking anyone that dares raise an eyebrow at the Boks.

    Wonder where these fervant supporters were back when no Lions players made it to the Bok team.

    Sanctimony taken to brave new heights…..but their bubble will pop – again.

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.06.17 21:38:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 6) : you know I used to think very much in your line but after 2016 I’ve shifted. I believe if Am were available he would have started last week and Mapoe would still be in the A side. I feel the side picked really doesn’t feel like a provincial bias team but rather a form team with a few errors. Mahoje really shouldn’t be part of this team and Jean-luc should be starting. Van der Walt should be in the mix but he’s been unlucky his whole career and probably always will be. Steyn should be starting at 12 but otherwise I can’t complain too much. Our wings are weak on defense but let’s give them a chance. As for van Wyk, I feel he’s unlucky but this is only his first good year and he’s not been the same since his injury, give him time, he may get a look in later this year. On Elton I’ve never been a fan but when I soul search it’s because I’m a huge Lambie fan. Elton is yet to show consistency at test level but with no other flyhalf staking a claim he’s the best we have and I was impressed by him last week, which hurts me to say. 2017 is the year I support the Boks first and foremost not the sharks in green and gold. I think once you make that decision you’ll find your excitement for Bok rugby returning.

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.06.17 08:06:54 by Hulk Reply

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  • All Blacks just ripped Samoa a new one. Very impressive.

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.06.17 11:41:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • Free entry today at mosses mabhida for people 18 of younger for SA A match

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.06.17 12:44:17 by Poisy Reply
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  • Marx, Mostert and Whitely are nowhere near international quality in their respective positions.
    Neither are Cronje, Jantjes and Mapoe.
    Coetzee is questionable. So is Rule.
    Skosan has some potetial, but would really need a few better partners around him to show it. Serfontein is top level, but has probably been ruined by the crap ideas they’ve had at Bulls lately.

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.06.17 13:20:31 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 11) : Marx, Mostert, Whiteley, Cronje and Jantjies are the best in their position in the country at the moment. Mapoe is second best but Am is injured. Coetzee has been consistent the whole season and so has Skosan.

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.06.17 14:05:47 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 12) : Am is over hyped by us sharks fans. He is not better than mapoe.

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.06.17 14:08:57 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 12) :

    That may be true, but if we’re going to keep to the ‘in the country’ line, then we’re also going to have to accept not being a top tier nation anymore.

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.06.17 14:21:09 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 13) : I don’t think the argument is worth the time Am needs time to become world class and Mapoe has probably shown as much as he is able to achieve. Which is still not world class baby standard. But that being said who else is currently world class and ready to play at 13?

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.06.17 15:43:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 14) : Well, most of the so called better players of Europe come back unfit and in bad form. Vermeulen last year was not a factor and based on the Top 14 final he is not a factor now either and Louw hasn’t been a factor since 2013. Marcell Coetzee is unfortunately always injured (He would be an asset to the squad). Jannie kon nog nooit scrum nie net soos Coenie, Morne Steyn is past his prime so is Ruan Pienaar. Bismark is the only overseas player not currently in the squad that I would add.Other than that there is nobody better than the players we have here in SA.

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.06.17 15:46:24 by Mutley Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 9) : Expected not impressive. They are at a standard and level where such things are expected.

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.06.17 15:47:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 15) : That may be true but you can put Conrad Smith next to Dom een die Ellendige and he would look average. I believe Saturday is Mapoe’s last chance to show what he can do at international level. I do not see him getting another shot if he has a terrible game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.06.17 15:53:36 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 18) : I’m not saying he is terrible. I’m actually saying he is the best we have for the job at the moment, and before argue that possible up and coming stars should be considered, we must also try to be practical. They are a future he is a now. Much as I like Am he needs to be consistently good for at least 2 or 3 seasons before we ask the question of him. Same goes for bosch and AE and Nkosi etc. We can’t have provincial blinkers on this really isn’t lions vs the world. Much as some lions Gan would like love and other fan would like to loathe the concept.

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.06.17 16:05:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 19) : Gan= fans

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.06.17 16:06:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @fyndraai (Comment 11) : Agree on Whiteley and Marx I can see them being easily replaced at the moment. But they are getting better and could make that argument dissappear. As for Ross I think we have so little stock in that position almost anyone just doing his job adequately will still look a lot better than the rest.

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.06.17 16:10:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I know this is really off topic. Last night after several Whiskies in the city, we ended up arguing about how Black and White became colours of Natal rugby. Does anyone know?

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.06.17 17:00:48 by durbsguy Reply

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  • @durbsguy (Comment 22) : And also the two animals romping on the badge?

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.06.17 17:07:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 23) : No one knows, it’s a mystery wrapped in a conundrum shrouded in a veiled percipience of who the fuck knows entombed in an edifice of who the fuck cares shoved up an orifice of an amnesiac master of the trivial forgettable.

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.06.17 17:15:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 23) : The Black Wildebeest has always been synonymous with Natal.

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.06.17 17:36:07 by durbsguy Reply

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  • @durbsguy (Comment 25) : I know there is sub union wildebeest team but why wildebeest and why two?

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.06.17 17:47:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 26) : Sometimes one is just not enough.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.06.17 18:02:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 27) : That’s all the explanation I need. Case closed.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.06.17 08:10:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 8) : Well said, your post echoes many of my sentiments.

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.06.17 11:48:20 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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