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Super Rugby 2017: Sharks v Lions


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 15 Jul 2017 at 15:54
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Spicy…. I’ll just leave it at that.

Kick-off is at 17h15.

Sharks: 15 Lwazi Mvovo, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Sibusiso Nkosi, 10 Garth April, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Philip van der Walt (captain), 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 Etienne Oosthuizen, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Thomas du Toit.
Replacements: 16 Stephan Coetzee, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19 Jean Droste, 20 Tera Mtembu, 21 Michael Claassens, 22 Curwin Bosch, 23 Jeremy Ward.

Lions: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Ruan Combrinck, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Harold Vorster, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Ross Cronjé, 8 Ruan Ackermann, 7 Kwagga Smith, 6 Jaco Kriel (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Andries Ferreira, 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Jacques van Rooyen.
Replacements: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Corne Fourie, 18 Johannes Jonker, 19 Lourens Erasmus, 20 Cyle Brink, 21 Faf de Klerk, 22 Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 23 Sylvian Mahuza.



265 Comments

  • Full time: The Cell C Sharks u19s have beaten Eastern Province u19s 42-13 in their opening match of the season! #oursharks #nextgensharks

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.07.17 15:58:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • This is what I call a conundrum – where both teams are better off if one wins and both teams worse off if the other wins. Sounds like something that a quantum physicist came up with.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.07.17 16:16:17 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 2) : :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.07.17 16:25:29 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • All the best guys. Hoping for a good game

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.07.17 16:56:50 by Baylion Reply

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  • Great that a season comes down to the last game to decide who finishes top of the log

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.07.17 17:04:25 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 5) : Indeed. Silver lining to a sometimes very boring and pointless final few rounds. :smile:

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.07.17 17:07:20 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 5) : Good luck, may rugby be the winner

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.07.17 17:19:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Woohoo go van der westhuizen. Please note that 2 teams play this sport look at the ones in red and white at the rucks also

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.07.17 17:21:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Can’t believe Greeff didn’t recommend a red card

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.07.17 17:23:09 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 9) : For the kick off or the first scrum

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.07.17 17:24:01 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 10) : :lol:

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.07.17 17:24:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Flanks should not try grubbers

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.07.17 17:24:57 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 12) : Ja, he’s been doing that lately.

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.07.17 17:26:25 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Sharks soak up some pressure, and now leads by 3-0

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.07.17 17:27:29 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Eish Reinach – after the ref tells you its outside the 22

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.07.17 17:28:25 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Hate when van der westuizen is against us, dislike it even more when he gives us all the calls. Just waiting for the brainfart bomb to go off

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.07.17 17:30:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Scrums are a total mess

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.07.17 17:31:19 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Geez the ref has already missed 5 forward passes. (Both sidesj

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.07.17 17:34:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : Total free for all at the moment

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.07.17 17:35:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • AE is getting a card this game if he continues like this

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.07.17 17:36:43 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks are doing all the tackling at the moment.

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.07.17 17:37:26 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • How was that not changing lanes

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.07.17 17:38:22 by jdolivier Reply

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  • And need to improve their discipline

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.07.17 17:38:23 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • And the Lions score from a maul

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.07.17 17:38:57 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • We are lucky the lions are off the pace at the moment

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.07.17 17:40:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • AE makes a lot of meters, but with no support Kriel steals the ball at the ruck.

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.07.17 17:42:50 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • At the moment it’s 6-0 Lions loosies.

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.07.17 17:42:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • this ref should not even be blowing school rugby

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.07.17 17:43:19 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • That should have been a penalty against Kwagga there

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.07.17 17:43:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 28) : Do you really hate school boys that much

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.07.17 17:43:56 by jdolivier Reply

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  • But monster scrum gives the Sharks a penalty

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.07.17 17:44:22 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 26) : Kriel pulled Esterhuizen down never released in the tackle

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.07.17 17:44:53 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Now he blows Ackermann for a knock on which was not.

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.07.17 17:45:16 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 32) : We knew from the start that this panel of refs would be confusing

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.07.17 17:45:43 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Poor decision after poor decision.

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.07.17 17:45:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 30) : :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.07.17 17:45:58 by McLovin Reply

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  • What a joke the palimpsest in black and white need to lose this game ,clowns

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.07.17 17:46:48 by benji Reply
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  • Bugger off already Reinach

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.07.17 17:48:24 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Kwagga is taking balls from the Sharks like candy from a kid

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.07.17 17:49:10 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Sharks need to go buy The Kwaggs

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.07.17 17:49:55 by benji Reply
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  • Fortunately Combrick looks like a Sharks back today – can’t seem to catch a ball to save his life

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.07.17 17:50:46 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 40) : 100% agreed – we need some speed in our trio

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.07.17 17:51:18 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Take nothing away from the Lions, playing well, Kwagga is a demon, he is all over the place.

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.07.17 17:51:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 40) : He would stay at the lions for free before sitting on the bench behind the dup brothers

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.07.17 17:51:55 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Get Bosch on, April and his popgun boot ffs

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.07.17 17:51:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Nkosi gets his first touch of the ball after 32 minutes

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.07.17 17:53:20 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Ruck formed with the ball thrown back, geez van der westuizen is having a shocker

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.07.17 17:53:24 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Oosthuizen gives away 2 penalties in 1 min

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.07.17 17:54:05 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • get this joke April and Reinach off now ffs :evil:

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.07.17 17:54:18 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • I can’t believe we all wanted April in the Bok team not too long ago

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.07.17 17:54:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 49) : Wouldn’t it be nice if Wright was available and cronje never left

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.07.17 17:55:08 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 50) : Sharks team maybe

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.07.17 17:55:25 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 47) : Not sure why they do not just gives the Lions the points and ask the players to leave the field, I mean he is doing his damnedest, It is like the Lions are now the new darlings of SA rugby and should be protected at all cost, THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH FFS, Refs need to blow fairly,

    Lions supporters understand I am not blaming the Lions team here at all, not their fault our refs are useless.

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.07.17 17:57:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • This is what happens when you put pressure on a team

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.07.17 17:57:09 by jdolivier Reply

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  • van Wyk has been worth his weight in gold for us

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.07.17 17:57:32 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Van Wyk scores the weirdest try after Elton tries to be too clever at the 22 kickoff

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.07.17 17:57:51 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 53) : No arguments from me bud, just given up on us getting a fair panel

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.07.17 17:57:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 50) : Sorry I was never one of those, just like Bosch is not Bok material yet.

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.07.17 17:58:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 57) : ;-)

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.07.17 17:58:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 53) : 3 years back all RSA refs loved the stormers, before that the bulls, our chance will come

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.07.17 17:58:48 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks lead 10-8

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.07.17 17:59:08 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 53) : really dude look at the BIGGER picture

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.07.17 17:59:41 by benji Reply
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  • Why was there not ONE back in support?

  • Comment 63, posted at 15.07.17 17:59:42 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 51) : a damn nice fairy tale that, I wish

  • Comment 64, posted at 15.07.17 18:00:10 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 60) : :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.07.17 18:00:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • That was synical

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.07.17 18:00:28 by byron Reply

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  • Kwagga 2 Ref 0

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.07.17 18:00:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Lions keep playing after the hooter has gone and scores in the corner

  • Comment 68, posted at 15.07.17 18:02:17 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Again a shocker and Lions score from it.

  • Comment 69, posted at 15.07.17 18:02:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : Kwagga could teach Ritchie a thing or two. Bok selectors just don’t have a clue.

  • Comment 70, posted at 15.07.17 18:03:17 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • again well done Lions, play what’s in front of you.

  • Comment 71, posted at 15.07.17 18:03:38 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : Why is not a single ref blowing the lions forward passes. Watch the replay tomorrow there has been 9 from them in the first half. Not even mentioning the obstructive running every backline movement.

  • Comment 72, posted at 15.07.17 18:03:43 by jdolivier Reply

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  • any other ref and that would be checked to see if he’s in touch but not this banana :roll:

  • Comment 73, posted at 15.07.17 18:03:48 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • While you’re at it move ginger to 8 bring keegan on for Dan.

  • Comment 74, posted at 15.07.17 18:04:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 69) : Did you see April’s huge hit in that last move?

  • Comment 75, posted at 15.07.17 18:04:21 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 74) : Oh wait we can’t cause he has to play an I’ll timed CC. Thanks saru.

  • Comment 76, posted at 15.07.17 18:05:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Is this the same fuckturd that reffed the first game?????

  • Comment 77, posted at 15.07.17 18:05:25 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 75) : :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 78, posted at 15.07.17 18:05:28 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Dan dup has a lot of catching up to do to his bro.

  • Comment 79, posted at 15.07.17 18:06:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 77) : Can’t you tell?

  • Comment 80, posted at 15.07.17 18:09:29 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 77) : Yip and the same tmo

  • Comment 81, posted at 15.07.17 18:09:51 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Nice to hear that at 13-10 the supersport panel makes it sound like the lions are ahead by 50. They never have a nice thing to say about the sharks, not even Bitch James

  • Comment 82, posted at 15.07.17 18:10:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 73) : I’m streaming so maybe my angle is not the same. But his het both looked over the line.

  • Comment 83, posted at 15.07.17 18:13:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Every kick from April is going 50m, 10 forward and 40 into the stands

  • Comment 84, posted at 15.07.17 18:15:38 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 72) : Really dude thus blaming the ref kak is oh so boooooooring

  • Comment 85, posted at 15.07.17 18:16:23 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 85) : And so say all of us…

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.07.17 18:17:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • Is reinach on a go slow

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.07.17 18:17:50 by byron Reply

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  • Great tackle Reinach!

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.07.17 18:18:22 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 85) : Pointing out inconsistent reffing, not blaming him for the scoreboard. That is our own teams failure to perform

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.07.17 18:18:26 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 86) : Is it really too much to ask for a fair contest against one of the best teams in the comp

  • Comment 90, posted at 15.07.17 18:20:28 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Why aren’t we we using the wings more, both of them are making more line breaks than the rest of the team combined

  • Comment 91, posted at 15.07.17 18:23:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Garth April has been poor the last two games

  • Comment 92, posted at 15.07.17 18:24:08 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 92) : Unfortunately, yes, and Cobus the last 8

  • Comment 93, posted at 15.07.17 18:24:35 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Kwagga 3-0 ref. He might be one of Chuck Norris’ illegitimate kids, he can do anything

  • Comment 94, posted at 15.07.17 18:26:10 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Clueless on attack. A relief that we’re not going to NZ for the quarters.

  • Comment 95, posted at 15.07.17 18:26:22 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Cobus is playing in slow mo

  • Comment 96, posted at 15.07.17 18:26:40 by byron Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 90) : Sports fans across all sports and countries are notoriously biased and always blame the ref. You are pissing against the wind.

    As long as there have been refs in sport they have been blamed for teams’ losses. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.07.17 18:26:44 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 95) : Still 27min for us to pull off the upset of the season

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.07.17 18:26:50 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 98) : why

  • Comment 99, posted at 15.07.17 18:27:17 by benji Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 81) : oh of course…

  • Comment 100, posted at 15.07.17 18:28:02 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 97) : Don’t forget old ladies that give your entire team diarrhea just before a world cup final

  • Comment 101, posted at 15.07.17 18:28:03 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 98) : Aint gonna happen pardner…

  • Comment 102, posted at 15.07.17 18:28:17 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 96) : Cobus IS slow. Period.

  • Comment 103, posted at 15.07.17 18:28:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 99) : They’ve passed us off all season why not fuckup superbru

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.07.17 18:28:37 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 101) : And the humidity. And precipitation. And the waves in durbs being just too bitching to bother with practice or fitness.

  • Comment 105, posted at 15.07.17 18:29:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 105) : And the refs wearing purple shorts

  • Comment 106, posted at 15.07.17 18:30:45 by jdolivier Reply

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  • This game, compared to the previous one, is like a bottom-dweller dead rubber.

  • Comment 107, posted at 15.07.17 18:30:52 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 107) : Refer to comment 105

  • Comment 108, posted at 15.07.17 18:31:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • All things being equal, the sharks are kak, the lions are keeping us in the game

  • Comment 109, posted at 15.07.17 18:32:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 104) : Cause knock out rugby is a different game altogether and I fancy the Sharks for some big upset ,just not against the Crusaders in Hamiltin

  • Comment 110, posted at 15.07.17 18:34:02 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 110) : The Crusaders don’t play in Hamilton dude

  • Comment 111, posted at 15.07.17 18:36:16 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 110) : Chiefs in Hamilton, if we beat the saders there, it will be an awesome upset

  • Comment 112, posted at 15.07.17 18:36:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 110) : sorry Christchurch

  • Comment 113, posted at 15.07.17 18:37:36 by benji Reply
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  • When did rugby remove ‘playing the ball on the floor’ from the rulebook. Every time

  • Comment 114, posted at 15.07.17 18:37:48 by byron Reply

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  • And that is why Bosch should be no where near a Bok team

  • Comment 115, posted at 15.07.17 18:38:15 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 110) : Joburg or Christchurch will support them next week anyways. This abusive relationship called being a sharks fan

  • Comment 116, posted at 15.07.17 18:38:32 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Bosch really needs to improve his tackling.

  • Comment 117, posted at 15.07.17 18:38:35 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Bosch taking over from big hitter April as if he’s studied his technique

  • Comment 118, posted at 15.07.17 18:38:46 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 114) : Don’t comment on the ref Byron, apparently it is frowned upon

  • Comment 119, posted at 15.07.17 18:39:14 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Foward pass try?

  • Comment 120, posted at 15.07.17 18:40:13 by byron Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 115) : We should try and get Lionel back to the Sharks.

  • Comment 121, posted at 15.07.17 18:40:15 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 116) : yes but I fancy an upset in Jhb

  • Comment 122, posted at 15.07.17 18:41:10 by benji Reply
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  • Lions way to smart and play, they do not stand and look they play.

  • Comment 123, posted at 15.07.17 18:41:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 122) : Fancy away….

  • Comment 124, posted at 15.07.17 18:41:42 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 120) : Not their first for the season, when your top of the log the ball always bounces kindly

  • Comment 125, posted at 15.07.17 18:41:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Now Sharks are missing tackle after tackle

  • Comment 126, posted at 15.07.17 18:41:59 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 116) : & yes we are rather abused are we not

  • Comment 127, posted at 15.07.17 18:42:07 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 127) : He only hits me cause he loves me

  • Comment 128, posted at 15.07.17 18:42:35 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 124) : Yes Jhb but never Christchurch

  • Comment 129, posted at 15.07.17 18:43:07 by benji Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 126) : If in doubt fall back on the training Brendan Venter gave you, or your predecessor.

  • Comment 130, posted at 15.07.17 18:43:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 121) : Why would he come back? His Sharks stint almost cost him his chance at Bok honours.

  • Comment 131, posted at 15.07.17 18:45:14 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 131) : He did receive the best medical rehabilitation for free

  • Comment 132, posted at 15.07.17 18:46:05 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Luckily next week we get 3 players back, Beast, Botha and Marais

  • Comment 133, posted at 15.07.17 18:46:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 131) : Besides he is playing for a team that can actually beat the mighty resurgent bulls…

  • Comment 134, posted at 15.07.17 18:46:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Kwagga 4-0 ref

  • Comment 135, posted at 15.07.17 18:47:03 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Smit way offside

  • Comment 136, posted at 15.07.17 18:47:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Kwagga is a legend :lol:

  • Comment 137, posted at 15.07.17 18:47:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I’ve seen enough. Going to watch a Muppet movie now. Starring the sharks….

  • Comment 138, posted at 15.07.17 18:48:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Kwagga in 2m offside

  • Comment 139, posted at 15.07.17 18:48:38 by byron Reply

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  • The most impressive thing about this lions team is the support play. Never is a man isolated

  • Comment 140, posted at 15.07.17 18:48:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Lions just doing enough to win. No need to overdo it. Saving themselves for the play offs.

  • Comment 141, posted at 15.07.17 18:49:59 by McLovin Reply

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  • The ref pulls one back against Kwagga

  • Comment 142, posted at 15.07.17 18:50:29 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 141) : Couldn’t agree more.

  • Comment 143, posted at 15.07.17 18:50:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Imagine what the Sharks cud achieve with the hottest 2 9 ,eish ,I can’t wait

  • Comment 144, posted at 15.07.17 18:50:52 by benji Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 140) : We really need a professional attack coach in our setup.

  • Comment 145, posted at 15.07.17 18:50:54 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 142) : He is very good but proper refs are going to nail him.

  • Comment 146, posted at 15.07.17 18:51:34 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 145) : Robbie Dean’s mate

  • Comment 147, posted at 15.07.17 18:51:35 by benji Reply
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  • Kwagga and Kriel having a field day

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  • @McLovin (Comment 141) : We’re going to get slaughtered.

  • Comment 149, posted at 15.07.17 18:52:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 145) : First we need a team, not 15 guys waiting for a paycheck

  • Comment 150, posted at 15.07.17 18:52:14 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 148) : Kriel does hard grafting, kwagga does daylight robbery

  • Comment 151, posted at 15.07.17 18:53:03 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Who the fuck is this hooker replacement? Glenwoods 2nd team hooker?

  • Comment 152, posted at 15.07.17 18:53:10 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 146) : The only proper ref alive today is Nigel Owens

  • Comment 153, posted at 15.07.17 18:53:17 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 153) : Angus Gardner is not the best but at least very consistent

  • Comment 154, posted at 15.07.17 18:53:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • How is Dan still on the field?

  • Comment 155, posted at 15.07.17 18:54:03 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • ok time to rather watch Soccer :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 156, posted at 15.07.17 18:54:31 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 155) : No, I am your father, oops I meant he is good

  • Comment 157, posted at 15.07.17 18:54:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 156) : Do you know the Cricket score by any chance

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 150) : We seeing a lot more effort today than against the Bulls, but these guys just don’t have an understanding of how to attack the weak spots in a defence.

  • Comment 159, posted at 15.07.17 18:55:37 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 154) : Ja, but adding him would screw up my whole comment :mrgreen:

  • Comment 160, posted at 15.07.17 18:55:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 152) : No they found him in the car park, go buy Marx

  • Comment 161, posted at 15.07.17 18:56:20 by benji Reply
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  • Well done to the Lions.

    Officials also. Cracking job.

    Cheerio all.

  • Comment 162, posted at 15.07.17 18:56:20 by McLovin Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 158) : 41-1

  • Comment 163, posted at 15.07.17 18:56:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 159) : Back to basics, start a backline move at pace, always run into space not into a defender

  • Comment 164, posted at 15.07.17 18:56:45 by jdolivier Reply

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  • The game is too quick for us…Hehehehe. Still think we don’t need an international DOR…hehe. u/15 vs 1st team.

  • Comment 165, posted at 15.07.17 18:57:25 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Mystery offside line

  • Comment 166, posted at 15.07.17 18:58:00 by byron Reply

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  • Thank you Sharks. Scrappy game today from both sides.

    See you next week!

  • Comment 167, posted at 15.07.17 18:58:02 by Baylion Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 166) : The 2m he allows Kwagga he denies us, no mystery

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  • @Baylion (Comment 167) : Well done Bay, good victory.

  • Comment 169, posted at 15.07.17 18:58:59 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 167) : Would’ve been much closer if you guys didn’t have Kwagga today. He was a one man wrecking

  • Comment 170, posted at 15.07.17 18:59:30 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 170) : Crew

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  • @Baylion (Comment 167) : You’re welcome :grin:

  • Comment 172, posted at 15.07.17 18:59:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I am going to stick my neck out here but I think AE must play 15 he is waisted at 12

  • Comment 173, posted at 15.07.17 19:00:14 by benji Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 167) : Congratulations, this time don’t screw it up in the final

  • Comment 174, posted at 15.07.17 19:00:24 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Please stop with the fucking fireworks kingspark. The sharks are loosers, and you celebrate with a firework show of + – 100 k! Nothing really surpises me about this union anymore. Outa here!

  • Comment 175, posted at 15.07.17 19:01:06 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 173) : Rather 13 with a creative 12 , if he gets the ball at pace every move, he will be unstoppable

  • Comment 176, posted at 15.07.17 19:01:23 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Our first problem is in both 10′s we have a barn door for opponents to run through, We need the genuine 6, and better 9′s

  • Comment 177, posted at 15.07.17 19:01:39 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Sharks did a good job throwing that, hopefully next week they will actually try

  • Comment 178, posted at 15.07.17 19:01:51 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 167) : Yes I can’t wait ,always remember mate knock out rugby is a whole different game

  • Comment 179, posted at 15.07.17 19:02:03 by benji Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 176) : No he will make a seriously good 15

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  • @benji (Comment 173) : So you want a bigger door open for opponents to run through? also Andre to slow for 15, our problem is at 9 and 10, then also no 6 and our best 8 plays 6

  • Comment 181, posted at 15.07.17 19:03:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Proteas 53-1

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  • @benji (Comment 180) : Why he didn’t kick at touch baffles me. Nice that Kwagga gets motm, hope he gives van der westuizen the cellphone for his contribution

  • Comment 183, posted at 15.07.17 19:04:58 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 182) : Thanks

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 183) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 185, posted at 15.07.17 19:05:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 164) : Unfortunately we still have to master the basics like catching a damn ball, having support near the ball carrier at all times, .. while other teams figure out the best point to attack the defense.

    Extract of Plum’s column on Rugby Mag:

    “Successful attacking teams are always looking for mismatches in the defensive line, as there are always tired props or locks whose defensive incapabilities can be exploited.

    Having players with a high skill level is the other ingredient to a successful attacking game. Kiwi players love honing their skills, whether it’s improving their passing or their short and long kicking game. We often see the best players in Super Rugby showing a special skill that has created an opportunity to score. If you watch closely, you will see how the speed and accuracy of a backline’s passing gets the ball into space for a flying wing. All of these actions come from practising skills at speed and under pressure.

    Having quality coaches who can encourage and implement techniques to improve the players’ skills is also important. You need to teach players to read situations that require a certain skill: a long flat pass because the defensive line has shortened, or a short pass – with a teammate running a good angle – to create a linebreak. “

  • Comment 186, posted at 15.07.17 19:05:57 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 179) : Absolutely, only one chance.

    Personally I would have preferred the sharks to travel to NZ, if it didn’t mean the Lions had to lose tonight. Keep the Saffer sides in the competition as long as possible. Unfortunately that’s not happening

  • Comment 187, posted at 15.07.17 19:06:43 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 186) : Like I said, back to basics. Good hands, good lines, good support, good defence. And great team spirit

  • Comment 188, posted at 15.07.17 19:07:03 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 187) : Bud the lions are the only RSA team that deserve to be in the knockout stages. Thanks for your humility

  • Comment 189, posted at 15.07.17 19:07:58 by jdolivier Reply

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  • We need a 10 urgently, this is our biggest weakness, as for forwards the return of Beast, Botha and Marais will be very welcome,

  • Comment 190, posted at 15.07.17 19:10:44 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 190) : Botha will still be out next week AFAIK

  • Comment 191, posted at 15.07.17 19:12:00 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 190) : If any of the 2 lions scrumhalves played for the sharks tonight, even April would’ve looked good

  • Comment 192, posted at 15.07.17 19:12:23 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 192) : Correct

    Protea’s 73-1

  • Comment 193, posted at 15.07.17 19:15:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 193) : Thanks mate, have the cricket on now

  • Comment 194, posted at 15.07.17 19:16:01 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 181) : 9 is fixed mate ,i say bring back French Freddie for two to three seasons, but AE reads the game very well, like a Serge Blanco ,he has great exit kick ,tavkles we’ll

  • Comment 195, posted at 15.07.17 19:16:26 by benji Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 191) : As far as I remember it is 4 weeks from all forms of rugby but i could be wrong.

  • Comment 196, posted at 15.07.17 19:17:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 195) : Or even Hernandez, someone that can make magic out of nothing

  • Comment 197, posted at 15.07.17 19:17:35 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sport24: Lions beat hapless Sharks to bag top spot on Super Rugby log.

    “Hapless” sounds about right.

  • Comment 198, posted at 15.07.17 19:18:13 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 195) : I agree he has most attributes, he lacks speed and without a 10 that can tackle we cannot afford for him not to be at 12.

  • Comment 199, posted at 15.07.17 19:18:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 196) : 3 matches

  • Comment 200, posted at 15.07.17 19:18:32 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 198) : Bring back Butch :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 201, posted at 15.07.17 19:19:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 200) : Then after the Bok A side he could have played for our Sharksxv, then he missed our match vs the Bulls and then today.

  • Comment 202, posted at 15.07.17 19:20:18 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 198) : If the score was 24-23 sport24 would make the headline : awesome lions ravage hapless sharks. Wouldn’t read too much into their “fantastic” journalism. Both teams were crap tonight, the lions just less crap than the sharks. Neither team would’ve made any NZ stress after tonight’s performance

  • Comment 203, posted at 15.07.17 19:20:48 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 195) : Creates absolutely nothing for Am. That makes him 50% useless.

  • Comment 204, posted at 15.07.17 19:21:06 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 204) : Am at wing and Nkosi at 13. Nkosi can create space in a watertight door

  • Comment 205, posted at 15.07.17 19:22:40 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 202) : Hopefully the Sharks will argue that – because we will need him next week. The Lions were actually very rusty today – next week they will move up a gear

  • Comment 206, posted at 15.07.17 19:23:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 206) : I hope so, remember many of the SR team players played the previous week against the Kwas when we snotted them in Kimberly, and the rules do say all forms of rugby, he could even have gone and played club rugby to stay fit, this is why it is all forms of rugby.

    Problem as have is 10 and Loose forward then,

  • Comment 207, posted at 15.07.17 19:27:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • If Rob Du Preez cared about winning this game, he wouldn’t have taken Jean Luc off, but he didn’t care and neither did the players. Next week we will the passionate sharks team that actually care about winning the game

  • Comment 208, posted at 15.07.17 19:27:28 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • Protea’s 75-1, Amla 23no and 36no

  • Comment 209, posted at 15.07.17 19:28:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 207) : Problem for next week is still 9 as well

  • Comment 210, posted at 15.07.17 19:29:38 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 208) : I got that feeling too, we call for Keegan to play but what i saw of him last week is he has lost it and is not fast anymore, Kwagga will lose him in a flash.

  • Comment 211, posted at 15.07.17 19:29:58 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 210) : Yeah that one we do not have an answer for yet. :???: :lol:

  • Comment 212, posted at 15.07.17 19:30:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 205) : Not with AE inside him. Esterhuizen’s a bash-it-up artist a la Halstead but with better defense and a big left boot.

  • Comment 213, posted at 15.07.17 19:33:52 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 213) : You may just want to rephrase that :roll:

  • Comment 214, posted at 15.07.17 19:34:39 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 213) : If we have a decent 10, just maybe a skip pass is possible?

  • Comment 215, posted at 15.07.17 19:34:51 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 204) : Mate firstly Am is a good CC player at best,and I have knocked AE more than most , but ,one also has to raise positive points as well and in my view he has the ability to read play as a good 15 does ,he only needs to learn to run space and duck down when taking contact

  • Comment 216, posted at 15.07.17 19:35:04 by benji Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 214) : I was wondering if someone would take that the wrong way.

    Sorry, I’ll get my coat…

  • Comment 217, posted at 15.07.17 19:36:45 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 216) : How many times is he last point of defence

  • Comment 218, posted at 15.07.17 19:36:52 by benji Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 217) : Apologies :mrgreen:

  • Comment 219, posted at 15.07.17 19:38:22 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @benji (Comment 216) : Am has nothing to work with, which is why Mapoe buggered off. He had Esterhuizen at 12.

  • Comment 220, posted at 15.07.17 19:39:05 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 220) : Yes that’s why he should be 15,but who would you seriously play at 12?

  • Comment 221, posted at 15.07.17 19:44:01 by benji Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 221) : Not sure. Not convinced Ward is the answer. Maybe some coaching but, then again, a cart horse will never run the Kentucky Derby.

  • Comment 222, posted at 15.07.17 19:52:50 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 222) : Van Rensburg is a similar player to AE, and the Lions have managed to make use of him taking the ball up strongly while making sure they can play off him. Just teach AE to off-load a bit more and try and hit gaps more often.

  • Comment 223, posted at 15.07.17 20:01:37 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 223) : Jip, comes down to coaching. AE’s defense is miles better than RJvR’s but that’s the only factor in his favour. He doesn’t seem to have a natural instinct for space.

  • Comment 224, posted at 15.07.17 20:15:56 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 224) : “Instinct” for space can be taught. RJvR didn’t have it when he moved from the Bulls to the Lions. Even props can be taught that

  • Comment 225, posted at 15.07.17 20:19:33 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 186) :
    Ive seen video sessions off kiwi teams training indoors in a gym doing conditioning, at the same time rugby balls are getting passed around between drills and exercise sets obviously to improve hand eye coordination during activity, also i believe some teams train with undersized balls (lol excuse the pun) but for real the smaller type rugby balls you get for throwing around on the beach they are tricky to catch and improve handling, also drills to pass a ball down the line between 6 runners and it is timed from the moment its passed to when it gets to the last runners hands, and in is encouraged the the passing speed gets faster and faster at pace in front and not behind the runner,

    Have you seen kiwi teams run practice drills, one has to actually pay close attention to figure out what is actually going on, everything is at pace and in configuration so the players are always thinking even at practice, no time to scratch ones nuts or think about whats for dinner,

    Wonder if the coaching team has that figured.

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  • One thing our coaching team has on point is the focus on core conditioning instead of muscle mass,
    Gone are the days of players needing to look like WWE wrestlers to be effective, as muscle mass need oxygen in high intensity situations and more oxygen means more cardio, to be effective and have power in contact you need core strength power in ones thighs along with lower and upper back, Eg UFC fighters and Boxers are among the fittest and strongest sportsman there are, and i can vouch that the conditioning is not weight lifting (only a portion is)

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  • @Baylion (Comment 225) : In that case there’s a massive lack of education in Durban.

    Maybe Dr. Sheryl Calder could be pursuaded to move to Zimbali.

  • Comment 228, posted at 16.07.17 10:25:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I believe the sharks should approach someone like Stefan Tereblache send him to Wellington to the International Rugby Academy, and learn training drills ect, and have a REAL attacking /skills coach

    Also employ a fitness / conditioning coach in Jujitsu to work on core strength, discipline and out the box ground work techniques to apply in the point of contact. since there is now no emphasis on having a specialist opensider and now everyone must fetch, then think differently and teach the side a skill set from other contact sports.

    these are tweaks that could work without trying to get some high profile coach.

    Just a thought.

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  • @Andrew Fletcher (Comment 226) : I think the other keyword in that is the training of skills under pressure.

    Sharks really need to invest heavily in up-skilling attack and skills coaches. In the long run it is much better to develop your own than to pull in Kiwi specialists on short term contracts.

  • Comment 230, posted at 16.07.17 11:02:55 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Andrew Fletcher (Comment 229) : You would need to find who was the best attacking backline player for sharks see if he is available and send him. Skills can be taught but finding someone who has that natural instinct is hard. I think there were guys in sharks who had a greater natural instinct for creating and exploiting oppertunities than Stefan. He was very good all round but not the best attacker we’ve ever had.

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 230) : I agree on the long term theory, you dont want mercenaries
    tho like good chefs steel with there eyes, i would do the same with a coaching panel, OK im going totally out the box.

    Basket Ball (NBA) emphasis on quick passing and looking for space,
    Aussie Rules emphasis on handling and next to boxing prob the highest cardio demanding sport,
    Brazilian Jujitsu would be good for contact situation and pilfering tactics including core fitness

    Tho not NFL (American football) why ???? cause Heyneke Meyer tried that and then had the theory that the no 10 is a quaterback and the outside back must be like running backs, hence the good old kick and chase tactic.

  • Comment 232, posted at 16.07.17 11:30:49 by Andrew Fletcher Reply

     
  • @coolfusion (Comment 231) : It would be interesting to note opinions on who was the best attacking backliner. Personally I rate Brent Russell as way more dangerous than Stefan. But that is a subjective argument Russell like kolbe was a powerful runner with a low center of gravity which stacked his odds. Also the overall capabilities of the backline at the time may also skew perception of best backline player.

  • Comment 233, posted at 16.07.17 11:36:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 231) : Yip you are bang on point, i was using ST as an example, but here are true examples

    Leon Mc Donald – Crusader Backs Coach
    Tony Brown – Landers Head Coach

    Now if had to put a few names in the hat……..James Small, Lem, Butch James,

    We all see the sharks attacking flaws, runners are 95% of the time matched man and ball, and when someone like Andre Esterhuisen makes a break he is as isolated as North Korea,

    If i were coach first of all i would be having AE doing off-load drills in contact all day cause he could have the SBW effect, then i would school the whole backline on how to pass in-front of a runner who has been looking for space and running at pace with assistant runners in tow within the range so when tackled one will know where to automatically off load, thats what i see is wrong……………

    I may be wrong and heck what do i know, but i know what i see thats not looking correct

  • Comment 234, posted at 16.07.17 11:45:55 by Andrew Fletcher Reply

     
  • @coolfusion (Comment 233) :
    Adi Jacods – And here is why……not big, not fast, but could unlock defenses
    I remember a sharks / saders game at kings park in 2006 or 07 (cant remember) but in the last min from deep inside our 22 he unlocked the whole Sader Defense to put Odwa in the left corner

    …….Odwa would be another noteworthy mention

  • Comment 235, posted at 16.07.17 11:52:56 by Andrew Fletcher Reply

     
  • @Andrew Fletcher (Comment 234) : The problem is not AE, it is players next to him not reading play as well as a problem in coaching, I have seen 2 centers that looked excellent next to Andre as they read his play and ran well off him, Jordaan and at junior level a center called Tyler Fisher.

  • Comment 236, posted at 16.07.17 12:44:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Good players do not necessarily make good coaches,

    I differ slightly in opinion as yes skills are lacking but when recruiting players do we even look at their skills? I could mention another 10 plus things wrong at the Sharks. Skills for most professional players are instilled from young

    1) Recruitment
    See the overall recruitment at the Sharks and see how far behind we have gotten since Rudolph left? our backs for the most are tiny, Deysel, April, Smith, and having watched some of the junior teams it is there to see how many small guys we recruit.
    Yes Bulls are poorly coached but look at the size and pace of their back line players as an example. look at the locks they recruit, not only Snyman and Jenkins, but they also have the current 2 junior Bok locks

    We need to recruit players that are specialists in their positions

    2) Skills
    As mentioned above so much needs to be done in this area , now here i see daily how some call for wings to be centers and vice versa, but we forget the Skills a center has most wings do not as those skills are honed throughout their playing careers when growing up. Also you get natural ball players like a Brent Russel or Aplon etc with flair and natural raw talent

    Look at the current Sharks back line and see which players you think are natural ball players etc, then look at their size, do the same with the Bulls back line. The game has evolved and if you look at 90% of other teams they have BIG skilled flair raw talent backs, and yes there are a few exceptions to that rule like MCKenzie from the Chiefs.

    3) Support play
    Here all we have to do is watch for example yesterdays match again and see how many times our players get isolated and then look at the Lions team and see them hunting as 1 pack, no players get isolated, how many turnovers do we not concede because of this?

    4) Fitness
    5) Mental preparation of the team.
    this has been one of my concerns for years with the Sharks teams, how many times do we lose to teams we should be whipping? just like this year we lost 4 we should have won, Kings? Bulls, Reds? all games lost that should have been won

    And yes we lost the first game to the Lions we should have won. We are always up for 1 game then down for the next, Bulls in 3 weeks beat us in DURBAN because they wanted it more, their attitudes was to win no matter what, then look at the kings and their mental prep against the same Bulls team the week after? and they played at Fortress Loftus.

    6) Selections
    Here we also have had major problems through the years, but also it goes back to recruitment, too many buddy buddy selections and less about form.

    7) Speed of players lacking
    We have 1 or 2 players with speed the rest are very slow like Adriaanse yesterday, I mean my dead granny would out sprint him lol

    8) Defense
    Here poor selections also contribute and it is damn unfair to some players like Andre Esterhuizen,and us supporters slate him for not distributing enough but yet we select an April and Bosch that leave barn doors for opponents to run through, to top it we have Loose forwards that are not fast and they are expected to cover for the likes of a non defending 10, for me in the modern game all 15 must tackle, this is not rugby from 1979′s and 80′s where Naas for example could sit back in the pocket and just dictate with the boot while the rest of the team did the dirty work.

    9) Concentration levels
    Here week after week we see how we fail to play 80 min, we see mistakes because of lack of fitness etc

    10) Option taking on attack and defense
    11) Pride and love for the brand they represent
    12) Players it seems not allowed to think for themselves on the field

    Now as much as we mention so many things that could be soughted out by good coaching, are coaches able to work on their players weaknesses and strengths to bring out the best of them?

    Even us as supporters are at fault calling for players to be Springboks after 1 or 2 good performances, like April and Like Bosch, all that happens is players start to believe in that hype, and I include myself in this.

  • Comment 237, posted at 16.07.17 12:53:39 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 236) : Agree, as AE is usually always isolated after an awesome break, just think he would be soooo much more devastating if he mastered the one hand Sonny Bill offload,
    (then as you say what would be the point of him doing that when players have no intuition or read on any play)

  • Comment 238, posted at 16.07.17 12:56:02 by Andrew Fletcher Reply

     
  • To me guy like Jacque Fourie would be a candidate for good backline attacking coach. If he had aptitude for coaching or could be taught this. David Capmpese also a good option maybe?

  • Comment 239, posted at 16.07.17 13:09:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 237) : Gee boet do you have any electrons left after that dissertation?

  • Comment 240, posted at 16.07.17 13:09:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • But Ja I agree with sharks lover having the instinct and skill is very different from the ability to transfer that knowledge and skill. People learn in different ways and being a teacher is knowing how to approach and unlock that.

  • Comment 241, posted at 16.07.17 13:15:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 241) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen Amen lol

  • Comment 242, posted at 16.07.17 13:23:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Andrew Fletcher (Comment 238) : Even though I agree mate the problem is not how to pass but to actually have someone to pass to?

    @coolfusion (Comment 240) : lol I am all good mate, quiet Sunday so time on hand.

  • Comment 243, posted at 16.07.17 13:26:31 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 239) : See even here if we do not admit to our shortcomings we will not seek solutions.

  • Comment 244, posted at 16.07.17 13:27:43 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 241) : True, wasnt Graham Henry a school principle

  • Comment 245, posted at 16.07.17 14:07:23 by Andrew Fletcher Reply

     
  • @sharks_lover (Comment 237) : I agree the sharks SERIOUSLY need some speedy 6,7 and 8s

  • Comment 246, posted at 16.07.17 14:14:16 by Andrew Fletcher Reply

     
  • Article on Netwerk24 that Akker van der Merwe might move to the Sharks. He wasn’t on the Lions list of contracted players for next year and it makes sense for him to get out from under Malcolm Marx

  • Comment 247, posted at 16.07.17 14:29:38 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Andrew Fletcher (Comment 245) : Jake White was a school coach, HM too. School coaches go through a lot of courses and are normally quite well trained

  • Comment 248, posted at 16.07.17 14:32:59 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 248) : So was Kitch Christie,thats 3 school masters with three world cups.

  • Comment 249, posted at 16.07.17 15:02:37 by The hound Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 243) : Couldn’t agree more, the most incredible SBW offload doesn’t help when there is nobody to pass to. I remember a break AE had yesterday where there were no other Sharks in the camera shot. This was on a set play, and none of our loosies were there to support him. Naturally AE was penalized for holding on, but it was not his fault, there were 3 Lions in the tackle, and not a single Shark supporting AE.

  • Comment 250, posted at 16.07.17 15:51:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 250) : I happen to think that earlier this season, AE was showing excellent offload skills, when Am was running good support lines off him. That was lacking yesterday, that was Am’s first game back after an injury layoff, so we should allow some leeway, but I hope he is back to his early season form next week. I think AE is perfectly capable of offloading and would be considered an offloading genius if the Sharks were trained to run good support lines like the NZ teams are trained to do. You almost never see a NZ ball carrier isolated, and I have never seen SBW with the ball without at least two players running support lines.

  • Comment 251, posted at 16.07.17 15:59:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Andrew Fletcher (Comment 226) : Gary Teichman must catch a wake up. Nothing will come of the Sharks unless difficult decisions are made.

  • Comment 252, posted at 16.07.17 16:45:01 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • This was my response to a few fella’s on another site earlier and I have seen Lambie being said to move on on here too, so this is what the 1 guy said….

    wedgestix • 2 hours ago
    Same Same every game….hey RDP ? Either sort out your house or move on .
    Also time to cut Lambie off . For two many years he has been the pivot in which the team is built around and year after year we have the same problem ! Him been injured and leaving a massive void in a crucial position.
    I like Lambie, but we need someone more reliable.
    I ANSWERED

    Load of Bollocks, It has nothing to do with Lambie, all teams should have at least 3 or 4 good 10′s we have 1 injured and 1 still just turned 19 and cannot tackle as he is still too timid.

    Coaches with bad decisions yes have set back the Sharks a lot, think back to just over a year and look at the 10s they had?????

    Then: Lambie, Rob Dup jnr, JL Du Plessis, Lionel Cronje, April
    Now: Lambie, April, Bosch, Radebe

    This is what poor coaches do when they treat players badly, we messed Robert jnr and JL Dup around and bought Tim Swiel from WP, so 2 10′s above left, Swiel non the less left after a year, and since then we got in Radebe and Bosch, so how is that Lambie’s fault? injuries happen.

    What is poor at the Sharks is the standard of recruiting since Streulli left,

    Another example is the Hookers we have so think back a few year and not that many, we had Smit, Bismark, Cooper and I know there was 1 more cannot remember his name

    Today we have Chilli, Marais and Coetzee so how good has our recruitment been??

    For me if true Acker VD Merwe might join us and then throw the book at Cooper and get him back.

  • Comment 253, posted at 16.07.17 16:51:13 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Akker VD Merwe to sharks….chance of Mapimpi too
    Also got RDP…..lambie looks like he may be off to Racing

  • Comment 254, posted at 16.07.17 17:31:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 253) : Burden?

  • Comment 255, posted at 16.07.17 18:34:24 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • We have two pretty sizeable wings for a change and somehow we can’t figure out ways to get them more into the game. In the Bulls game we kept using the 80kg Bosch as a strike runner with the two Bulls centres waiting for him, whereas we have a 95+ kg Nkosi who is totally underutilized.

  • Comment 256, posted at 16.07.17 18:41:57 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Just read RDP blaming the loss on lack of effort. Shame, he also has not figured out that the top SR teams train and play with pace. They have what is called an attack shape. Get rid of Everitt and bring on a DOR of Robbie Deans or Wayne Smith’s caliber. Sharks are followers. Not leaders. Until we are leaders in the industry we won’t be able to compete and beat the current leaders.

  • Comment 257, posted at 16.07.17 18:44:46 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 257) : We can’t just rely on Gees all the time. The other okes are just as strong, as motivated, as fit. We need to start playing smarter – not just harder.

  • Comment 258, posted at 16.07.17 18:51:58 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • I think the players put in a lot of effort on defence, but you can only defend so much before the wall breaks. However I do agree with him that the effort (without the ball) on attack was poor to non-existing.

  • Comment 259, posted at 16.07.17 18:55:01 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 255) : Did not know he was still playing.

  • Comment 260, posted at 16.07.17 19:12:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 260) : It seems he is still playing for Stade. At 32 could probably still add value to the Sharks.

  • Comment 261, posted at 16.07.17 19:20:09 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 258) : Exactly. This has always been my point. Teams are all talented and equally strong. The real competition is in the coaching box. If a team has a better coaching team with better strategies, they will beat us. Yesterday was not a question of lack of effort but a team that was just always too late. They were chasing shadows. They simply could not keep us with the pace of the game. We have just been saved the embarrassment of getting 50 points from the Crusaders. If they are not training with a stop watch so as to time or track how they are doing against the top teams, the root cause will always be misdiagnosed therefore administering the wrong treatment. Our depth is also very pathetic and needs to be addressed asap.

  • Comment 262, posted at 16.07.17 20:36:17 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Actually disappointed by RDP’s comments. He surely needs to realize that if he didn’t for the past 6 months train the guys to play at a certain tempo they won’t suddenly play that way. If he does not have an attacking shape that works, his players won’t miraculously know what to do when they have the ball.

  • Comment 263, posted at 16.07.17 20:53:07 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 259) : All our runners were one off and got the ball standing still. Every lions player got the player after at least 2 steps forward momentum, supported by 2 team mates minimum. That’s why we couldn’t get turnovers, and why stole our ball at will.

  • Comment 264, posted at 16.07.17 21:30:38 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 264) : Kwagga played what the ref allowed him to play, non existent offside line or not. If our loose trio was more balanced with a fetcher type player we might have been able to do the same

  • Comment 265, posted at 16.07.17 21:33:27 by jdolivier Reply

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