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Currie Cup 2017: Blue Bulls v Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 9 Aug 2017 at 16:36
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Right – it’s about to get real. Celebrate Women’s Day in style as the Sharks face the improving Bulls at Loftus.

Kick-off is at 17h30. Go SHARKS!

Blue Bulls: 15 Manie Libbok, 14 Travis Ismaiel, 13 Franco Naude, 12 Burger Odendaal, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Tony Jantjies, 9 Andre Warner, 8 Nic de Jager, 7 Jannes Kirsten, 6 Boom Prinsloo (captain), 5 Ruben van Heerden, 4 Irne Herbst, 3 John-Roy Jenkinson, 2 Jan-Henning Campher, 1 Pierre Schoeman.
Replacements: 16 Jaco Visagie, 17 Matthys Basson, 18 Abongile Nonkontwana, 19 Shaun Adendorf, 20 Ivan van Zyl, 21 Dries Swanepoel, 22 JT Jackson

Sharks: 15 Garth April, 14 Kobus van Wyk, 13 Jeremy Ward, 12 Lukhanyo Am, 11 Sibusiso Nkosi, 10 Inny-Christian Radebe, 9 Michael Claassens, 8 Tera Mtembu, 7 Jacques Vermeulen, 6 Keegan Daniel, 5 Ruan Botha (captain), 4 Tyler Paul, 3 Ross Geldenhuys, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Thomas du Toit.
Replacements: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Jean Droste, 20 Cameron Wright, 21 Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 22 Odwa Ndungane



78 Comments

  • Nkosi Try

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.08.17 17:33:43 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • 5-0

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.08.17 17:36:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Fluck, ward off with bad injury.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.08.17 17:40:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • 4 points already left on the field ….

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.08.17 17:52:28 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • Rolling maul Marais try, April has missed both conversions.

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.08.17 17:52:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 3) : How have they changed the backline? No proper 13 on the bench

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.08.17 18:11:28 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 6) : Nope, Van Wyk to 13 and Odwa on wing, Odwa has already missed 3 tackles, one of which ended in a try for them.

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.08.17 18:14:12 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 6) : Ward off with according to commentators what looked like a serious injury, not confirmed as to what the problem was though. As for Odwa I have always been a big fan but he is way past it.

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.08.17 18:15:28 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I don’t think Inny is the answer. Too erratic in my opinion.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.08.17 18:17:11 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I agree, bring Ben10 into 10

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.08.17 18:18:10 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I would have much preferred Sithole on the bench too Odwa, Rob must look past favorites, Odwa also very slow.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.08.17 18:22:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Try AM, very good running line.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.08.17 18:37:09 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Ben 10 playing far better than Inny so far.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.08.17 18:40:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Hate to stick it to a Sharks legend who has always given it his all, but I’m really not sure what Odwa adds when we have some younger players who could take the chance to shine.

    April is frustratingly erratic.

    Can someone explain why CC is still 22 man squads? I think it went to 23 in the NH around 2010?!

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.08.17 18:41:01 by Here be dragons Reply

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  • Tera is bad
    Inny is bad
    April is bad

    One of those nights

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.08.17 18:45:40 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • Ward on the bench with Arm strapped, not looking good

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.08.17 18:47:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • They score a iffish try and now April scores a corker.

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.08.17 18:54:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • so poor little pinkydick ref gets his feels hurt and throws a penalty for words …… meanwhile all you can hear the dutchies shout is the exact same thing :roll:

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.08.17 19:00:25 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 18) : Exactly, Ref try hard to help them, he overlooks all their obstruction running.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.08.17 19:02:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Scrappy but very good win at Loftus, so many changes, we need players to to still get used to each other again

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.08.17 19:12:28 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Mostly happy with the game. Improvements to be made and certain players need an arse kick of note. How lekker does Akker look in a Sharks jersey :lol: MotM for me was Am, hard grafting tonight

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.08.17 19:12:49 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • My MOM Vermeulen.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.08.17 19:12:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 21) : Vermeulen or AM I agree.

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.08.17 19:13:31 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 18) : This is why Sharks supporters are thought to be such whingers. The ref gave the exact same lecture to the Bulls just before he did to the Sharks.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.08.17 19:13:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Bonus point win away in Bulls territory, I will take all day long. Well done, Sharks!

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.08.17 19:14:01 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • Ohhhhhh Yeah!!!! This is huge, well done boys! Super Proud!

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.08.17 19:16:58 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • Vermeulen as i called, he was superb.

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.08.17 19:17:21 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Not a perfect game but denying the bulls any points at home is perfect enough for me!

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.08.17 19:18:23 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @Julesgr8ter (Comment 25) : that kid is fantastic!

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.08.17 19:18:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 24) : He warned them twice and never penalized them, out first offence we got penalized, that is why @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 18) : moaned about the call.

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.08.17 19:19:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • And Cam Wright’s passing and varying there of is absolutely superb…think the forwards enjoy receiving those pin point passes.

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.08.17 19:20:32 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 30) : The right way then is to call both captains and then give a general warning, that did not happen.

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.08.17 19:21:03 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 31) : I also thought he made a big difference when he came on.

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.08.17 19:21:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I really enjoyed this and will celebrate in style tonight! You know it was fantastic when your almost 2-year old girl sings “Go Sharks, Go Sharks spread the ball wide!” and they score!

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.08.17 19:25:08 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) : And the pace he injects creates the defence to scramble…reminds me bit of Graig Davidson Dave von Hoeselin back in the day

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.08.17 19:27:46 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 22) : Losing team but burger odendaal deserves motm

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.08.17 19:29:45 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 35) : Could not agree more, A bit more coaching and experience and I tell you this boy can be a Bok.

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.08.17 19:30:00 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 36) : Nah I will still stick with Vermeulen, Oodendaal was very good I agree,

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.08.17 19:30:59 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Nkosi must ‘ve knocking on the selectors door by now, really thought he was amazing tonight, van wyk owes us a Superrugby performance after being quiet the last few games

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.08.17 19:31:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 39) : Must be not must’ve, silly Autocorrect

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.08.17 19:31:55 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sad to say but odders and Keegan seem a half step off the pace, let the young guns build their own legacy and thanks for many years of great service

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.08.17 19:33:14 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 21) : And that little break by Akker got me on my feet! Great acquisition for the Sharks

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.08.17 19:33:24 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 42) : And he still needs to find his feet,

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.08.17 19:43:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : thanks Rob- great game by all as far as I am concerned!

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.08.17 19:45:30 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 43) : Lol exactly!

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.08.17 19:45:55 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • Cameron is the business.

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.08.17 19:55:19 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 39) : I love the way Nkosi is coming on, but with all the raw skill and talent, he still has much to improve on. He often carries in the wrong hand, leading to knock-ons in the tackle. I love that he is always looking for the offload, which is great for a wing, but he still makes some of these offloads that are too risky and he would be better to have held on. He will come right and be a superstar, but give him a SuperRugby season to sort out these minor issues, and he will be a superstar.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.08.17 19:57:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 30) : Bottom line, whinging at the ref never works, and only gives the ref a reason to rule against you. Best for the Sharks is just to shut up and get on with the game. Notice at the end when Botha was blown up for offsides, he did not whinge to the ref, he gave a bit of a look, showing his disagreement, and then went and had a civilized conversation with the ref after the match was over. This is how Sharks should be handling refs, not crying, moaning, and whinging when things don’t go their way. Personally, I don’t blame this ref, I really dislike it when players yell and scream or whinge hoping for a call from the ref.

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.08.17 20:01:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 47) : With his youth, he will err often, how many other more experienced players do not have his work ethics and determination. Really believe that he will be an amazing springbok not too long from now

  • Comment 49, posted at 09.08.17 20:10:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 49) : Mistakes due to youthful exuberance is not a problem, but he does need to be trained and drilled on certain skills (like carrying the ball in the correct hand). I do agree that he will be a great in the future.

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.08.17 20:26:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 48) : Agree, think quite a few of the refs should have done this during ST. Ridiculous the way that players are shouting at the ref. Sucks that the penalty was against us, but it was an unnecessary display from van Wyk.

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.08.17 20:59:52 by HeinF Reply

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  • If the refs were consistent then NO player would be shouting . Fix the problem not the symptom

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.08.17 22:01:23 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 52) : Sorry but I call bullshit on that, there are players that will yell no matter what, think players like Gregan from the past. Yelling and shouting will get you nothing from the ref but a penalty, I don’t care how inconsistent the ref is, yelling is not the appropriate response, and gains nothing, and will only hurt your team. So yes, inconsistent refereeing should be fixed, but yelling at the ref is never appropriate, it is not a symptom, it is an inappropriate response.

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.08.17 22:44:52 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 30) : Actually, the first time he warned the Bulls about shouting at him, he did penalize them

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.08.17 22:48:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Well done, Sharks!!!

    I think you played well. Jacques, in my opinion deserves the mom – played really well. Our forwards were good. AM played well but sometimes he was a bit of selfish. I am still in favour of Keegan. He played a very good linking game between phases and you could see he encouraged the younger players. They respect him.

    Some minor concerns were with our defence (missing tackles), handling errors, changing too quickly to a defensive game with kicking when the ball in hand approached worked, going to post when we just ran amok with a driving mall from a line out and back chatting to the refs. Inny needs to work on his defence and sad to say Odwa also. Garth had a few good moments, but he has not impressed me. Ruan seems to rather want to play safe sometimes. I for example, don’t understand why we kick for post (and yes it was over), when we were very solid with our lineout drives.

    Overall, I was really impressed with our team. I really hope that Jeremy‘s injury is not too serious. Now for Saturday and this might be one of our first revenge games.

    Go Sharks!

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.08.17 22:50:23 by BluffShark Reply

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  • I really wish my fellow Sharks supporters would just stop with the whinging about referees. The problems is we (Sharks supporters) have now cried wolf far too many times, so when there really was a problem with a referee (think SuperRugby quarterfinals), “it is just those whinging Sharks supporters who always have a go at the ref, even when they win.” Save your outrage for when it really matters, not every single ref is “out to get the Sharks”, may even be only one. ;-) But in all seriousness, we really need to stop this whinging about the referees ALL the tine, if it has become tiresome to a life long Natal Rugby supporter, then think how others view us.

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.08.17 22:53:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • We are always going to have a problem with defence as we will have the big boys running at 10 which was either inny or april. Ben10 did shore that up a little. We may see a inny ben10 combo on sat. I hope akkers slight injury isnt bad and just a knock.

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.08.17 07:32:49 by Dunx Reply

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  • Ryan Botha’s captaincy is what has been missing at the Sharks for a long ,long time.
    Very impressed with his calmness, under his continued captaincy team can only get stronger.
    Our backline defense is our Achilles heel, cannot afford to play Radebe and April together.
    What the news on Ward’s injury?

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.08.17 08:00:32 by The hound Reply
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  • That was a good away win. After Wards injury and the way we were playing i thought we wouldnt pull it through. Having a play maker at 12 is making a huge difference to the backline attack- defenses have to be more alert and focussed on him which frees up space on the outside. Sorry for me Esterhuizen needs to move to 13. I also think we need to look past guys like Odwa and to a lesser extent Keegan…we need to find out who else we have so we can bring them into supe rugby next year.

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.08.17 08:43:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Our missed tackles was atrocious but I’m willing to believe that was in a large way due to the 4 day turn around between games.

    Now on what I saw I am very concerned about Inny, I just saw far to many errors from him and for the Lions I’d most certainly start Ben10 (he also looks better defensively). Odwa was poor in my opinion and can’t understand his continued selection.

    Now onto the positives feel Vermeulen and Am had particularly good games and although April wasn’t perfect he certainly did enough to make me feel he did well on the day. I’m liking Botha’s captaincy style. Even when we’re looking like we are dominating he still respects the opposition enough to take points offered. We didn’t have that game in the bag because of our defensive woes and he made sure the game was 2 scores away from the Bulls. Good game, in my opinion, by the boys and hope to see more fight against the Lions on Saturday.

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.08.17 09:29:43 by Hulk Reply

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  • Congrats on the win guys and gals…….ruined my winning streak on Bru, but well played.

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.08.17 09:31:28 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 59) : I hate to say it but seeing a playmaker at 12 really raises question marks over Andres continued selection at 12. I don’t think he’s got the pace for 13, so the only place I see for him if not at 12 is either 15 (not a fan of this idea) or wing (fits the same mould as Nadolo). On saying that it creates an issue as Nkosi and van Wyk are doing so well.

    A conundrum indeed; my hope is we can get Andre to play more expansively and work on his skill set as I feel the Am / Esterhuizen combo is an excellent partnership, they are the best example of the knife and hammer approach.

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.08.17 09:40:19 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 62) : I do feel that Esterhuizen can play 13. Although i cannot see the Sharks picking him anywhere abut at 12 with AM moving to 13. Which is a pity as our backline is more dangerous with Am at 12

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.08.17 09:49:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 62) : He would make the perfect 15,best tackler in the team, huge boot, great runner.
    Solve all the leaky problems in the back line ,a 15 in the Gavin Henson,Hugh ReeceEdwards,Joe Roff,mould.

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.08.17 09:55:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 58) : Jeremy has a deep forearm laceration – 20 stitches. Not going to play Saturday, but fine after

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.08.17 10:00:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 64) : Yeh not bad thinking at all, even if not likely to happen. Who would you play at 13 then? Ward?

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.08.17 10:06:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 66) : Definitely,although he and Bosch played 10/12 at school.

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.08.17 10:18:10 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 67) : Good point

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.08.17 10:19:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 63) : I know Andre is no slouch, but how fast is he compared to for example Am or Ward?

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.08.17 10:35:00 by HeinF Reply

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  • CC rugby is not close to SR rugby. Esterhuizen has been a massive asset for us in the SR and we missed him during his suspension.

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.08.17 10:39:59 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 70) : do you not think we might have moved further in SR this year with Luk at 12 and the tries flowing.

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.08.17 11:26:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : do you think Andre will be an effective outside center? One thing I noticed yesterday is that we really missed his left boot to get out of our own 22. The bulls placed us under a lot of pressure when we did not kick the ball out far enough.

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.08.17 12:56:17 by HeinF Reply

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  • @HeinF (Comment 72) : I think he can. How many opposition 13s are going to bring him down easier if he is running at an angle off AM?

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.08.17 12:59:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 73) : I like the idea of Am at 12 and Andre at 13, would have been nice to have a CC to experiment with that combo

  • Comment 74, posted at 10.08.17 13:50:03 by HeinF Reply

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  • @HeinF (Comment 72) : yeah – his boot is a major factor as is his defensive prowess….

  • Comment 75, posted at 10.08.17 14:02:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • We need both Am and Andre. Each brings something different to the position but by the looks of it both should be focusing on playing 12. Also Super Rugby is loooong.

  • Comment 76, posted at 10.08.17 14:14:49 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 76) : For me Jeremy Ward is the future of the Sharks give him time and he will do for us what Crotty does for the Crusaders.

  • Comment 77, posted at 10.08.17 14:33:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) :
    Hard to tell. I think Esterhuizen helped our defensive concerns at 10 a lot. I also think that his distribution isn’t bad – he doesn’t just crash-ball everything.

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