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Second-half blitz nets WP the Currie Cup


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks, WP on 28 Oct 2017 at 17:53
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After taking a handy 21-10 lead midway through the first half, the Sharks ultimately succumbed to a superior WP display to lose Saturday’s Currie Cup final 21-33 in Durban. John Dobson’s team scored 18 unanswered points in the second half to completely eclipse their hosts.

It could not have been a better start for the Sharks, with veteran Odwa Ndungane scoring in the left corner and Curwin Bosch converting for a 7-0 lead inside the third minute. A botched kick-off receipt put WP back on attack and it was Huw Jones who sliced through for a reply score under the sticks after a powerful WP scrum on the Sharks line. 7-7 became 10-7 as Bosch nailed a penalty and the home team’s lead was extended further through a Dan du Preez try after an outrageous Garth April break had moved them back into Province territory.

The first chinks in the young flyhalf’s armour emerged as he missed the conversion; another penalty shortly afterwards was missed, with Rob du Preez pulling his team back to 15-10. Bosch succeeded with a penalty and a cheeky drop goal to put the Sharks on 21, but the momentum started to turn soon afterwards, with Dillyn Leyds scoring in the corner on the stroke of half time to reduce the gap to 21-15.

The second half was a one-sided affair, with Province’s better execution at the set piece and well-executed rush defence robbing the Sharks of time, space and ball. A wheeled scrum saw Nizaam Carr break around the blindside, wrong-footing Jacques Vermeulen to send Cobus Wiese over, 21-20 was soon 21-27, with Jones scoring a second not long after.

Du Preez’s masterful game control them came to the fore as Province, no longer chasing, showed composure and simply kept the Sharks pinned back. Two further penalties meant the Sharks had to run everything for the last 20 minutes and they simply ran out of ideas and composure, allowing the visitors an ultimately very comfortable win.

Sharks (21): Tries Ndungane, D du Preez. Conversion Bosch. Penalties Bosch (2). Drop-goal Bosch.
Western Province (33): Tries Jones (2), Leyds, Wiese. Conversions R du Preez (2). Penalties R du Preez (3)



49 Comments

  • Assholes

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.10.17 17:57:11 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 1) : no… Sharks

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.10.17 18:02:33 by SharksRTB Reply
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  • Bosch

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.10.17 18:02:34 by jakkalas Reply
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  • Oops, didn’t mean to click post. Bosch can’t tackle. Gave them 2 tries

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.10.17 18:03:15 by jakkalas Reply
    jakkalasCurrie Cup player
     
  • Flaws in the coaching. Hope Dick Muir is really joining us. Cheers guys.

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.10.17 18:10:00 by GreatSharksays Reply
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  • @jakkalas (Comment 4) : And missed probably 8 other tackles.. Huge issue. Dont know how he can even be considered for Boks. 2 years later and no improvement in his defense

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.10.17 18:11:33 by ebenp Reply
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  • Not sure if it is a good idea for Rob Jr to join the Sharks. Great player that will add huge value but the idea of a coach coaching three of his sons is going to cause problems.

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.10.17 19:16:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 7) : No, it should’t be a problem. Rob Jnr by far a better option on form. Bosch has moments of brilliance, but just isn’t physically ready to front up at senior level. Unfortunately a skilled big FH is almost always going to be a better option, than a smaller, frailer skilled FH.
    At the moment Rob is a more mature and stronger FH.
    Hope he can play his natural game at the Sharks. His brothers handling not as pure as that of his WP loose trio.

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.10.17 20:22:12 by KingCheetah Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 8) : No question he is a better all round flyhalf. Would pick him ahead of Curwin myself at the moment. At some point the coaching sons thing is going to cause problems

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.10.17 20:31:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @ebenp (Comment 6) : Sports supporter favourite pass time, throwing player especially young players under the bus.

    we win and you play well: your the greatest there ever was and there ever will be.

    We lose and you get exposed: your kak, you were always kak, and you will always be kak.

    there was more too it. why do we in sa insist on laying out game plans that expose the weaknesses in young players ?

    When do you just acknowledge that the opposition showed up with a spot on game plan or had a better second half (which seems more important).

    how time has flied, feels like yesterday I was watching the sharks vs red game on a friday morning.

    disaster of a season, Nope, considering the resources, it was ok.

    do we need better coaching, kinda seems that way, would love a NZ or ozzy or anything other than sa backline/attack coach just to freshen things up. if you look at the team (when everyone is fit) we can put out next year in SR, I think we will be a force, and we will definitely be playing with a chip on our shoulder.

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.10.17 20:33:25 by revolverocelot Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 10) : “why do we in sa insist on laying out game plans that expose the weaknesses in young players ?”

    Because SA rugby is just plain thick.

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.10.17 20:38:08 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I’m proud of the boys for being in the final and hosting it and sadly really expected them to step up to the occasion…and we tend to forget how young this team is…Bosch can only get better, they will remember this as how not to play a final and think this was a great learning curve.. This squad just need to stay together… The expectation of big things is still there though…Black and White, Nothing Else Matters, The Sharks Forever!

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.10.17 20:51:02 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • I would not throw Bosch under the bus. He is really talented but the coaches will have to work out a plan to fix his tackling technique. Otherwise his talent is going to be wasted.

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.10.17 21:58:17 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 13) : He’s in the wrong country to be managed properly. The SA rugby path is strewn with the wasted potential of talented youngsters.

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.10.17 22:59:41 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 8) : agreed bosch has talent but his body and tackle technique is not yet there for the very top level, and are we suprised, the kid is 20. Rob jnrs form has been off and on over the last two years, thanks to injuries, but boy am I glad we got him now.

    hopefully we are working with inny and ben on their issues as well. both good young fhs. poor inny had to play fullback when he isnt a fullback

  • Comment 15, posted at 29.10.17 04:09:25 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 15) : Proper tackle technique is taught at primary school level though. It should be something he should be able to do. The problem is he’s scared, which is why he attempts tackles the way he does. Unfortunately that is not something you learn with time and experience, but he needs to be forced to either get some courage and do it properly, or he does not get selected to play. It’s harsh, but I don’t think there’s another way. He has to get the courage himself, that can’t be taught.

  • Comment 16, posted at 29.10.17 12:09:08 by jakkalas Reply

    jakkalasCurrie Cup player
     
  • @jakkalas (Comment 16) : is he big enough yet to execute like that at cc/sr/test level ?

    NZ seem to protect damian so that he tackles very little or his never face with a huge miss match of size

  • Comment 17, posted at 29.10.17 13:19:48 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • So tomorrow we officially become Kings/cheetahs world until SR starts lol.

    Cheer up guys, I got it the worst, I reside in the western cape. everyone knows im a dye hard shark, I have the sr or cc schedule next too my desk or as the desk top back ground on my lap top.

    At least when you lose it forces you look at all your weaknesses.

    start of SR, RJ should start at fh, and with him there I would go attacking by placing am at inside centre and ward outside of am, Andre the giant on the bench with bosch.

    mvovo at fullback
    mapimpi and nkosi on the wing
    LS starts at 9
    dan at 8
    with ginger and jldp on the flank
    ruan and lewies at lock
    tanks starts with beast on the bench or the other way around
    franco starts counie starts

    worried about TH back up, Ross is inconsistent johnny could yet prove himself
    lots of depth for the bench. schoeman, aker, chilli, johnny mayer, droste, andrews (still need to bulk up) kogel (something, the lock), vosloo, vermualen, terra, cam, mike, ryno, april, inny kobus, deysel, louw etc etc

    Whats the latest on zas are we getting him or will he become a cheetah/king

    so our second team in the vodacom cup aka super sport rugby challenge etc should be competitive

  • Comment 18, posted at 29.10.17 13:20:10 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • looking at it in the light of day when the pain has subsided, we did extremely well to get as far as we did with that team.
    We really didn’t deserve more.On the day the entire backline from 10 to 15 were weak.,no need to single Bosch out for special attention.Bigest disappointment for me was Kobus van Wyk he had his worst game in Sharks colors,
    But it really got to me in the second half when RDP junior started putting up big bombs and tiny Bosch and April were the sole defense line.
    We paid the price for picking players incapable of defending their own defensive channels, once again Bosch was on the wing in defense.
    Province on the other hand loaded their team with sevens players and between Nel and Senatle and later Kok it was
    men against boys.
    We weren’t helped by the arsehole Peyper who once again set out to be the star of the show
    Nel should have been carded for his very late no hands tackle on Bosch.
    Peyper constantly was on the Sharks case.
    Any way as as has been said above please come back Andre,Lewies,Coenie, and our ginger friend, we really need all of you.
    But hey we got to see another losing final and if you think the team were second rate the stadium management were pure fucking amateurs.
    Arrive with an hour to spare and there is no parking in the Archery club where I have had a parking season ticket for years.
    The thieves at the stadium management opened up the presold reserved parking on a first come first pay basis and stuff the season ticket holders
    That to me is a disgrace, not losing the game that unfortunately is just rugby.

  • Comment 19, posted at 29.10.17 13:51:17 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 19) : lots of reinforcements on the way.

    Wow thats not cool about the parking, I trust you wrote an email to a relevant authority, you’ve been a season ticket holder more than a decade you deserve better treatment.

  • Comment 20, posted at 29.10.17 14:13:44 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 20) : Wasn’t the only one at least I was early enough find other parking heard of others who had to go home.
    Its a disgrace and leaves a bad taste in your mouth, just an utter disregard to people who supported you at the beginning of the year by investing in the season, sacrificed for a quick buck on the day, its in an article on the front page of the Tribune.
    Its actually fraud, those bays are reserved and even if you don’t turn up they can’t be used because they are pre sold.
    Really think its time to bulldoze that pile of bora invested shit and move into the 21st century across the road.

  • Comment 21, posted at 29.10.17 14:44:34 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 21) : As someone who was at the stadium what is your view of April’s positioning on defence? From the camera angles on TV it looked like he was hiding away from the contact situation.

  • Comment 22, posted at 29.10.17 14:53:38 by sudhir Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 19) : If I had to choose a combined team from the two based on their form on the day, I cannot think of a single Shark (perhaps Ruan Botha) that would make that team. We were outplayed in almost every facet of the game by a team that was just so much better. After 30 minutes it was pretty much WP doing all the play and we just hung in by our teeth.

  • Comment 23, posted at 29.10.17 15:00:27 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 23) : I thought Schreuder was good just how good was obvious when Claassens came on.
    Thought Jean Luc and Dan were enormous even tho they were being targeted,Ruan did not have his best game, but then who did
    [email protected]sudhir (Comment 22) : Think he was doing what he was told to do all season him ,Bosch and Radebe,stay out the way on defense.I have been saying that for a long time, its much more apparent when you at the game and can watch the whole field, than at home watching what the T.V cameras allow you to .

  • Comment 24, posted at 29.10.17 15:08:57 by The hound Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 17) : With good technique size doesn’t matter. Tackle around the ankles and the smallest guy can take on the biggest. Case in point is a guy like Lambie or even wp’s Kolbe

  • Comment 25, posted at 29.10.17 18:35:58 by jakkalas Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 22) : I found myself wondering what he was doing a lot of the time in terms of his positioning. Don’t know if his intention was to hide from contact, but it just seems like he finds himself out of position a lot

  • Comment 26, posted at 29.10.17 19:08:40 by Karl Reply

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  • Well for my money. WP played a sterling game. I’m going to give them credit for being better not us not playing to potential. The sharks had a good season and I am happy about our other performances. This is a final and this is the kind of thing that happens in a final. Better teams will learn and lesser teams will point fingers. J actually hope we don’t get Rob du Preez jnr since we are already talking about him like he is crutch or a one man solution. We need to be strong without those.

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.10.17 06:52:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • First troll of the morning by arrogant wp supporter. What a joy to be a Sharks supporter after your team drop the ball.

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.10.17 07:34:29 by SeanJeff Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 27) : Rob jr is not going to keep the scrum up. That was a bit of shock to my system.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.10.17 07:47:38 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 29) : Ja I really though we were going to out muscle them as well.

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.10.17 07:55:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Well deserved win by Province – well done…..gag, gag gag.

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.10.17 08:26:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @jakkalas (Comment 25) : Whats this tackling around the ankles thing, Peyper, on Saturday deemed that dangerous when Franco Marais did just that, Peyeper left everyone gobsmacked on that call.

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.10.17 08:29:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 27) : We are getting Rob juniour, Rob seniour confirmed it after the game. I am extremely happy for this move.

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.10.17 08:31:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 31) : This Dobson oke is really rubbing me the wrong way. On the weekend he stated that he felt really sorry for the Sharks

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.10.17 08:36:53 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Well done Province!

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.10.17 08:49:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 32) : We gave him a good boo when we saw the replay on the big screen

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.10.17 09:47:15 by jakkalas Reply

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  • @jakkalas (Comment 36) : Refs have been instructed to blow grass-cutter tackles, same as tip tackles. I am not sure if all front-on tackles on and below the knees are now blown or just the ones without arms wrapped around the legs?

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.10.17 09:58:35 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Firstly congrats to the Sharks for their best and most promising CC season in a good few years. Thought Ruan Botha did very well as captain for his first stint as such. As for the game- its very seldom a side wins, especially a final when they get shunted at scrum time like we did. It just puts pressure on all other aspects of the game. First time tackles once again proved an issue and WP were smart to attack our weak defenders and get over advantage line. Bosch still remains our best bet at fullback…just in general play he likes to drp back and attack from there. Its a tough loss to take but hopefully we learn from it.

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.10.17 10:15:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Damn Damn Damn … I really don’t know why I put myself through all this punishment – getting my hopes up just to get punch out. Yesterday I stayed the entire day in bed and I nearly booked off for depression for this week. Good morning, all. Unfortunately, I was too emotional to comment about the game yesterday. O well. We lost.

    We were beaten by a better team on the day. They beat us on nearly every aspect and were shit. Just to mentioned three, although it is possible to mention nearly every member of the team. When last did Thomas get pushed in a scrum that it looks like he was … I never rated Ross very high, but Thomas. We knew Curwin was lacking defence, and we should have put something in place to assist him. The remaining portion of his play was just as pathetic as his defence. Finally, Robert, I think you dropped us big time. You owe us.

    @The hound (Comment 19) : I was one of the individuals who parked on the archery field and I would most probably also have been as upset you, if I was in your position, however whether this is worthy a newspaper article is debateable. There are these massive amount of reporters (some of them have never watch a game in their life), just waiting for any negative thing that they could use to make a racial thing or something in order to sell their papers.

    I have season tickets now for 18 years and have only missed 11 games during this period. I have been trying to get parking season tickets on the outer fields, but to no avail. Collegians selling them on their fields from R1800 upwards, which I think is a disgrace. Nearly paying more for the parking tickets than the actual rugby tickets. So I arrived at Kingspark at 11:00 to make sure I have a decent spot for my braai. Played the hand of cards I was dealt with.

    On a special note, I still rate Keegan high and how good was Odwa’s try, I thought that was a well-deserved try to conclude is player status with the Sharks!!!

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.10.17 10:27:52 by BluffShark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : I would trade CC win now for possibility that Rob Jr might be instrumental in a title next year

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.10.17 10:36:44 by SeanJeff Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 37) : I thought he was unlucky to get penalised, but from what the ref said it was about ‘safety’. If it was no arms it would have been a card. I think.

    Is there a referee in the house? :smile:

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.10.17 11:27:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 41) : I can understand from refs view point how it could have looked dangerous. think if he sent it to tmo he would have seen it wasnt. These things happen and wasnt influential

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.10.17 11:41:10 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 42) : True. Looks like they do want to get rid of this type of tackle.

    From a quick read on World Rugby’s site it seems you can go as low as you want, but throwing yourself at the lower leg/ankles (whether you have your arms out or not) can be deemed dangerous.

    But like you said, just one of those things.

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.10.17 11:49:51 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 43) : Yeh look fully understand why they want to get rid f those tackles. As i said i think it was just his view point and if he was positioned differently would possibly have made a different call. Still as i said it wasnt a big moment by any means

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.10.17 11:54:20 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 43) : Funnily enough the tackle to the legs that did cause serious injury was the one from Notshe on JLDP, and that one was fully legal as it was from behind with arms.

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.10.17 11:55:29 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 45) : That was really unfortunate. One of those freakish things that happen in rugby. Hope he recovers quickly.

    Luckily not as bad as that oke in France a week or so ago.

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.10.17 11:58:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 46) : As I said nothing malicious or dangerous about the tackle

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.10.17 12:00:07 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 47) : Noted. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.10.17 12:01:29 by McLovin Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 17) : You may want to watch this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y23SkYKU7c

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.10.17 12:20:54 by Bokhoring Reply

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