Richard Ferguson

End of Year Tour 2017: Italy vs South Africa


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :End of Year Tour, Original Content, Springboks on 25 Nov 2017 at 14:30
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Last year this time the Boks would have been quite confident of a victory over the Italians, but we all know how that ended. Will this year be different?

The Boks will again be confident of getting a second victory on tour after sneaking in over the French last week. There hasn’t been much in the form of change with the backline being unchanged for this encounter and only two changes up front.

The Italians would have set their target on another victory over the Boks, seeing how they have struggled on this tour so far.

Italy: 15 Jayden Hayward, 14 Angelo Esposito, 13 Tommaso Boni, 12 Tommaso Castello, 11 Mattia Bellini, 10 Carlo Canna, 9 Marcello Violi, 8 Sergio Parisse (captain), 7 Abraham Steyn, 6 Giovanni Licata, 5 Dean Budd, 4 Marco Fuser, 3 Simone Ferrari, 2 Luca Bigi, 1 Andrea Lovotti.
Replacements: 16 Leonardo Ghiraldini, 17 Federico Zani, 18 Tiziano Pasquali, 19 Francesco Minto, 20 Renato Giammarioli, 21 Edoardo Gori, 22 Ian McKinley, 23 Matteo Minozzi.

South Africa: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Dillyn Leyds, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Ross Cronje, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth (captain), 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Daniel du Preez, 21 Rudy Paige, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Warrick Gelant.

Date: Saturday, 25 November 2017
Venue: Stadio Euganeo, Padua
Kick-off: 15.00 (16.00 SA time; 14.00 GMT)
Expected weather: Cold and wet. Rain, with a high of 10°C, dropping to 7°C
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: JP Doyle (England), Ben Whitehouse (Wales)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (France)



115 Comments

  • Its no fairytale…Italy have been consistently bad since their peak last year when they beat the springboks. So, they won’t win, and my best guess is that the Saffas will win but look a little poorly doing it. It won’t change the results in Dublin, Albany, Durban and the last game against Italy (in Florence?); A paucity of Sharks in selection means that the team holds barely more than a breath of interest. The faster the springboks implode, the faster Allister will be gone…its uncomfortable to say, but not as uncomfortable as it ought to be.

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.11.17 15:20:32 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Penalty Italy
    Italy 3
    Boks 0
    10min

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.11.17 16:15:38 by Mutley Reply
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  • Try Francois Louw

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.11.17 16:16:01 by Mutley Reply
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  • Converted by Pollard
    Boks 7
    Italy 3
    15min

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.11.17 16:16:57 by Mutley Reply
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  • Patient buildup from the Boks and eventually Louw scores the try.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.11.17 16:17:23 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • 200 points in 25 games for Pollard

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.11.17 16:17:52 by Mutley Reply
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  • Kickable penalty not taken by Italy. Going for the line out

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.11.17 16:19:57 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 7) : Italy build numerous phases and Italy get a penalty under the post after offside by Pollard

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.11.17 16:21:08 by Mutley Reply
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  • Penalty converted
    Italy 6
    Boks 7
    20min

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.11.17 16:21:48 by Mutley Reply
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  • Scrum Penalty to the Boks. They play the advantage but does not ake use of it. Poite calls them back and brings them back. Pollard goes for the line out

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.11.17 16:25:38 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 10) : and Bongi Mbonambi scores a try from the maul

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.11.17 16:26:18 by Mutley Reply
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  • Boks gets a maul going for a change and Bongi scores

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.11.17 16:27:06 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Pollard converts from the corner
    Bokke 14
    Italy 6
    25min

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.11.17 16:27:21 by Mutley Reply
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  • Better kicking from Pollard so far

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.11.17 16:28:08 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Beast replaced by Kitshoff. 28min

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.11.17 16:30:59 by Mutley Reply
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  • Line out stolen by Italy

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.11.17 16:31:43 by Mutley Reply
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  • Ross Cronje hits a half gap and offloads to Lood who loses the ball. Scrum to Italy 15m from the Italian goalline

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.11.17 16:35:48 by Mutley Reply
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  • Italy win the scrum and kicks upfield. Line out to the Boks on about the halfway

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.11.17 16:37:13 by Mutley Reply
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  • Francois Venter scores for the Boks. But TMO first to check

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.11.17 16:38:36 by Mutley Reply
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  • Boks playing the advantage after a high hit on du Toit. Cross Kick gathered by Venter and TMO confirms the try

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.11.17 16:40:25 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 19) : Why you talking to yourself?? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.11.17 16:40:42 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • 3/3 for Pollard
    Bokke 21
    Italy 6
    33min

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.11.17 16:41:07 by Mutley Reply
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  • Try is eventually awarded

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.11.17 16:41:12 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 21) : lol. Follow up on what I said :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.11.17 16:41:59 by Mutley Reply
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  • Can we please just teach the Boks to run onto the ball?

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.11.17 16:43:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Anyone else noticed what an amazing game Romain Poite is having, usually shocking against SA sides, truly a fair contest today

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.11.17 16:44:38 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 25) : one lesson at a time. They just learned how to catch the ball

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.11.17 16:44:57 by Mutley Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 26) : I think he must have had a knock to the head before the game – just not himself today

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.11.17 16:45:38 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Francois Louw is having a great game at the breakdowns

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.11.17 16:45:48 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 28) : One idiot retired, the other a conversion in faith regarding the bokke, might have to buy a lotto ticket

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.11.17 16:46:41 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Penalty to Italy after a high tackle by Etsebeth.

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.11.17 16:47:30 by Mutley Reply
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  • Italy go for goal but missed
    Italy 6
    Bokke 21
    Halftime

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.11.17 16:48:24 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 29) : Italy really consists of Parisse and 14 other players who would struggle to make the Griquas team

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.11.17 16:48:28 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • In the mean time. Scotland lead the Ausies 10-0 after 18min

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.11.17 16:49:39 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 33) : You insult the onion people from the big hole good sir, parisse and 14 guys that like to be on tv

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.11.17 16:49:56 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 33) : Trust me this will extend the Bok coaches contract by another 10 years. lol

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.11.17 16:50:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 33) : that is true. Most of their players are not even italians. Other than Parissi they dont have any star quality players

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.11.17 16:50:51 by Mutley Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 36) : to beat Italy should be standard for any Bok team. The fact that we lost to Italy last year should have signalled the end of Allistar. The problem is the Boks dont have any game plan and rely on individual player brilliance to win the games. The team started the year well but the longer the players are with Allistar the worse they get

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.11.17 16:53:42 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 38) : I am worried a good win here will be enough for SA Rugby to continue with Toetie plodding along next year

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.11.17 16:59:05 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Scotland still lead 10-0 after 28min

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.11.17 17:00:09 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 39) : The bad Allistar done overshadows the good. 1. First ever home loss against Ireland. 2. First ever away defeat against Argentina. 3. Biggest ever home loss to NZ in SA in 2016. 4. First loss to England in 10years. 5. First ever loss to Italy. 6. Biggest ever loss to NZ. 7. Biggest ever loss to Ireland

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.11.17 17:03:29 by Mutley Reply
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  • Italian crowd look a bit less enthusiastic now – obviously expected their team to dominate the plodding Boks

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.11.17 17:03:57 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • The second half is underway

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.11.17 17:04:20 by Mutley Reply
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  • Penalty to the Boks and Pollard sets up the line out

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.11.17 17:06:24 by Mutley Reply
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  • The Boks get penalty from the maul and Pollard sets up another line out

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.11.17 17:07:44 by Mutley Reply
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  • Try for the Boks and Kitshoff is credited with the score

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.11.17 17:08:25 by Mutley Reply
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  • Yellow card for repeated Italian infringements cannot be too far away, and the Boks score another one.

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.11.17 17:09:02 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Pollard converts
    Bokke 28
    Italy 6
    44min

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.11.17 17:09:42 by Mutley Reply
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  • Surely Toetie can start bringing some of his reserves on now – e.g. players he will need next week against Wales

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.11.17 17:10:01 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Owen Nkumane does not think 28-6 is enough of a buffer for the Boks against the Italians :roll:

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.11.17 17:11:11 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • The Boks forwards are very physical today

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.11.17 17:11:47 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : Allistar is not a big fan of using his bench. That was why we usually fade in the last 20minutes. He does not use his bench in the most effective way

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.11.17 17:14:56 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 52) : Since Thor and Louw will not be playing next week, we will start two under-cooked loosies against Wales next week

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.11.17 17:16:12 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Ross replaced by Paige. 55min

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.11.17 17:20:19 by Mutley Reply
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  • Nowthe weather and both teams starting to drag each other down in terms of quality

  • Comment 55, posted at 25.11.17 17:21:30 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • This is a very poor italian team and apart from the score, its not a good performance from the boks. Were running sideways and kicking away turnover possesion on attack and unable to put pressure on itialy on defence

  • Comment 56, posted at 25.11.17 17:21:46 by byron Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 53) : Kolisi will be back next week. So it is between Cassiem and du Preez who will play 8

  • Comment 57, posted at 25.11.17 17:21:54 by Mutley Reply
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  • Penalty to Italy 5m from the line

  • Comment 58, posted at 25.11.17 17:24:11 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 57) : Forgotten about Kolisi

  • Comment 59, posted at 25.11.17 17:25:07 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Duanne Vermeulen replaced by Dan du Preez. Nope just warming up

  • Comment 60, posted at 25.11.17 17:25:29 by Mutley Reply
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  • Chillyboy replaces Bongi now. 61min

  • Comment 61, posted at 25.11.17 17:29:06 by Mutley Reply
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  • Toetie now making a whole bunch of non-injury enforced changes – must be a record for him

  • Comment 62, posted at 25.11.17 17:29:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 60) : I still see Thor on the field – must have been PSDT?

  • Comment 63, posted at 25.11.17 17:30:19 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Italy has been on the attack for most of the second but the Boks defence is holding

  • Comment 64, posted at 25.11.17 17:31:55 by Mutley Reply
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  • Jantjies now replaces Pollard

  • Comment 65, posted at 25.11.17 17:35:15 by Mutley Reply
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  • Dan is not on the field.

  • Comment 66, posted at 25.11.17 17:37:14 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 66) : Yip – only reserved not yet used I think

  • Comment 67, posted at 25.11.17 17:38:10 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Mostert on the field now

  • Comment 68, posted at 25.11.17 17:38:17 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : thought Dan was coming on when he was warming up and Vermeulen looked like hr was going off

  • Comment 69, posted at 25.11.17 17:39:13 by Mutley Reply
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  • Warwick Gelant makes his debut with 10minutes left in the game

  • Comment 70, posted at 25.11.17 17:40:26 by Mutley Reply
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  • Italians are offside nearly every ruck. Lots of niggle … springboks doing well to ignore it

  • Comment 71, posted at 25.11.17 17:40:42 by byron Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 68) : Mostert is on for Eben, eish Mutley if you be the commentator you need to be awake :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 72, posted at 25.11.17 17:40:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • We all called for Galant but he has already missed 3 tackles, not good.

  • Comment 73, posted at 25.11.17 17:41:28 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 69) : Makes no sense to play Thor the entire game

  • Comment 74, posted at 25.11.17 17:41:33 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 73) : He does look good on attack though

  • Comment 75, posted at 25.11.17 17:43:36 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Jantjies gives a good little kick forward and Gelant almost scores

  • Comment 76, posted at 25.11.17 17:43:38 by Mutley Reply
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  • The in goal area is very small.

  • Comment 77, posted at 25.11.17 17:44:31 by Mutley Reply
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  • Dan rerplaces PSDT :roll:

  • Comment 78, posted at 25.11.17 17:45:13 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 72) : just saw Mostert come on. Thought it was for Lood lol.

  • Comment 79, posted at 25.11.17 17:45:28 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 78) : that must be why Vermeulen remains on the field because Etsebeth is off

  • Comment 80, posted at 25.11.17 17:46:18 by Mutley Reply
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  • What is the deal with the dude with the goggles – surely not that wet?

  • Comment 81, posted at 25.11.17 17:46:41 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 79) : Excuses excuses :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 82, posted at 25.11.17 17:46:48 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Franco Mostert scores the Boks 5th

  • Comment 83, posted at 25.11.17 17:46:58 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 83) : no wait. Want to check for foul play

  • Comment 84, posted at 25.11.17 17:47:30 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 84) : TMO cant find anything and Poite has to award the try.

  • Comment 85, posted at 25.11.17 17:49:48 by Mutley Reply
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  • Seriously??

  • Comment 86, posted at 25.11.17 17:50:35 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Jantjies converts
    Bokke 35
    Italy 6
    77min

  • Comment 87, posted at 25.11.17 17:50:55 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 86) : dont know what they were looking for

  • Comment 88, posted at 25.11.17 17:52:08 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 88) : Parisse claimed lood cleaned an Italian illegally

  • Comment 89, posted at 25.11.17 17:54:20 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Wonder if Owen thinks 35-6 with clock past 80 is safe?

  • Comment 90, posted at 25.11.17 17:54:54 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 90) : Owen thinks it’s 90minutes like soccer

  • Comment 91, posted at 25.11.17 17:55:20 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Scotland 39 Australia 17 (61 min)

  • Comment 92, posted at 25.11.17 17:56:23 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Toetie will now go on as if the Boks beat the WC champs at home.

  • Comment 93, posted at 25.11.17 17:56:55 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Final Score
    Italy 6
    Penalty Carlo Canna x 2
    South Africa 35
    Tries: Bongi Mbonambi, Francois Louw, Francois Venter, Steven Kitshoff and Franco Mostert
    Conversions: Handre Pollard x 4, Elton Jantjies

  • Comment 94, posted at 25.11.17 17:57:48 by Mutley Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 92) : damn. Scotland came so close to beating NZ last week. Would be awesone for them to beag the Ausies

  • Comment 95, posted at 25.11.17 17:58:44 by Mutley Reply
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  • If anyone cares scotland are still 39-17 up against australia. Anyone know what the red card was for?

  • Comment 96, posted at 25.11.17 17:59:36 by byron Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 95) : They’re playing some very good rugby :cool:

  • Comment 97, posted at 25.11.17 18:00:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 96) : Kepu shoulder charged watson

  • Comment 98, posted at 25.11.17 18:03:20 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 98) : To the head

  • Comment 99, posted at 25.11.17 18:03:45 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 65) : Pollard MOM

  • Comment 100, posted at 25.11.17 18:05:47 by Dunx Reply

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  • WP will really miss Hugh-Jones, but then they do have Ellendig

  • Comment 101, posted at 25.11.17 18:14:36 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Scotland gets more than 50 against Aus. Thank goodness we are not playing them this tour

  • Comment 102, posted at 25.11.17 18:19:46 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Wonder how many reports will say boks are back on track after this nothing game. Toetie will def milk it and spin it like fidget. …

  • Comment 103, posted at 25.11.17 19:56:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • This world cup going to an island nation nz scotland England Wales we probably won’t see quarters.

  • Comment 104, posted at 25.11.17 20:20:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Just to put our results in perspective – Japan drew with France at home yesterday. What the hell is going on with France at the moment? This is a team that came second in three WC finals.

  • Comment 105, posted at 26.11.17 09:42:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 105) : you call it Top14 syndrome

  • Comment 106, posted at 26.11.17 13:11:27 by John Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 105) : too many saffers playing in France .. therefore too few french players

  • Comment 107, posted at 26.11.17 15:46:59 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 107) : And to think Japan almost beat them too

  • Comment 108, posted at 26.11.17 16:39:31 by Dunx Reply

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  • Thomas the tank called up to go help Louis, Lukhanyo, Curwin and Ruan carry tackle bags

  • Comment 109, posted at 26.11.17 17:04:21 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 105) : @John (Comment 106) : @byron (Comment 107) : @Dunx (Comment 108) : yes all the foreign players playing in France (Top 14 and also second league) is a big part of the problems but also think, just like in SA, their administrators is fucking up their national team by not selecting the best coach as their national coach!!!
    Similar to the French rugby situation is English soccer Premiere League. Some of the strongest teams in Europe but yet the English National Soccer team suck just like the French rugby team!
    Look at Irish improvement and their National Union limiting foreign players in their domestic teams! Seems their administrators is testing it right!!

  • Comment 110, posted at 26.11.17 21:59:13 by JD Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 109) : maybe bags are getting to heavy for the small guys!?!?!?! :twisted:

  • Comment 111, posted at 26.11.17 22:01:13 by JD Reply
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  • Unconfirmed as yet but Coetzee might be going back to Japan soon. Hopefully SARU doesn’t select a bigger turd in his place.

  • Comment 112, posted at 27.11.17 06:40:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Just my thoughts on the Bok game. Wasnt a great performance but playing Italy on those vry narrow fields very seldom results in a good game. Boks did well in terms of the scoreboard. SOmetimes you play well and the scofe doesnt reflect it so got to give them credit in that regard. Still think we have backline issues and only ever one gy coming onto the ball if we lucky. I watch NZ/Eng/Scot and they all have multiple runners coming onto the ball which makes it tough for the defense. I must admit a lot of our issues stem from our 9 not having a strong pass.

  • Comment 113, posted at 27.11.17 08:14:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • My suggested lineup for the Wales game:
    1. Kitshoff 2. Mbonambi 3. Louw 4. Etzebeth 5. De Jager 6. Kolisi 7. PSDT 8. DuPreez 9. Paige 10. Pollard 11. Lleyds 12. Venter 13. Kriel 14. Gelant 15. Coetzee.
    Bench: DuToit, Chilliboy, Nyakane, Mostert, Cassiem, Schreuder, Bosch, Am
    Im being a bit hopefull with the bench as i know AC will favour consistency over anything.

  • Comment 114, posted at 27.11.17 09:52:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 102) : How I wish we were playing Scotland and how, Im sure, the Sots wish they were playing the Boks.

  • Comment 115, posted at 28.11.17 11:22:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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