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Sharks 2018 – In, out or inbetween


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 5 Jan 2018 at 13:10
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As we wait for the Sharks to return from their Christmas break (they reconvene next week), I thought I’d do a bit of work to put together what the squad for this year’s Super Rugby tournament should look like.

There has been a fair bit of movement since the end of Super Rugby last year, with some new blood coming in (mostly from the Kings) just before the Currie Cup season. A few more players have confirmed moves to the Sharks since November, while there has also been confirmation of some contract renewals. All of this helps to paint a mostly complete picture, with most of the names below in the “firmly in” category. I’ll also list the players that I’m not currently sure about and obviously try and firm up those details as the year picks up steam.

Props:
Definitely in: Beast Mtwarira, Thomas du Toit, Mzamo Majola, Ross Geldenhuys, John-Hubert Meyer
Maybe: Juan Schoeman (no contract renewal that I’m aware of), Enoch Mnyaka (injured all of last year), Gerhard Engelbrecht (no contract renewal), Khutha Mchunu (under 21), Thiery Kounga (highly unlikely)
Definitely out: Coenie Oosthuizen (long-term injury), Lourens Adriaanse (Pau)

Hookers:
Definitely in: Franco Marais, Akker van der Merwe
Maybe: Chiliboy Ralepelle (still contracted, but must be damaged goods now), Kerron van Vuuren (no contract renewal that I’m aware of), Andrew du Plessis (loan to Griffons?)
Definitely out: Stephan Coetzee (Kings)

Locks:
Definitely in: Stephan Lewies, Hyron Andrews, Ruan Botha, Gideon Koegelenberg
Definitely out: Etienne Oosthuizen (Lyon)

Utility Forwards:
Definitely in: Tyler Paul, Jean Droste, Wian Vosloo

Loose Forwards:
Definitely in: Keegan Daniel, Philip van der Walt, Jean-Luc du Preez, Daniel du Preez, Jacques Vermeulen, Tera Mtembu
Definitely out: Jean Deysel (Ulster), Francois Kleinhans (Pumas), Khaya Majola (Kings)

Scrumhalves:
Definitely in: Louis Schreuder, Cameron Wright, Michael Claassens
Maybe: Damian Stevens
Definitely out: Cobus Reinach (Northampton), Hanco Venter (Retired), Rowan Gouws (Kings)

Flyhalves:
Definitely in: Robert du Preez
Maybe: Benhard Janse van Rensburg (with Kings – perhaps on loan?)
Definitely out: Patrick Lambie (Racing 92), Inny-Christian Radebe (apparently gone to Lions)

Utility Backs
Definitely in: Garth April, Curwin Bosch
Maybe: Rhyno Smith (Sevens), Courtney Winnaar

Centres:
Definitely in: Lukhanyo Am, Andre Esterhuizen, Johan Deysel, Jeremy Ward, Marius Louw, Tristan Blewett

Outside Backs:
Definitely in: Lwazi Mvovo, Kobus van Wyk, Sbusiso Nkosi, Makezole Mapimpi, Leolin Zas
Maybe: Ilunga Mukendi (Not aware of a contract extension), Morne Joubert
Definitely out: Odwa Ndungane (Retired), S’bura Sithole (Kings), Clement Poitrenaud (Retired)



104 Comments

  • tighthead prop looks like a big headache at the moment with coenie out and ross who was not looking good in the cc

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.01.18 13:21:32 by Darius de Lange Reply
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  • @Darius de Lange (Comment 1) : 3 and 15 are the positions that scare the shit out of me, along with 2 where I’m worried that we lack depth should the differences between Chili and Rob prove irreconcilable.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.01.18 13:23:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Darius de Lange (Comment 1) : to be fair to Ross – he was murdered by JC in the Currie Cup final, but did pretty well otherwise in the CC?

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.01.18 13:23:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think the Sharks executives should be getting their chequebooks ready for any tighthead that’s half decent and available! (No disrespect to our current crew)

    I’m also surprised that Mvovo doesn’t have a contract extension.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.01.18 13:26:40 by josefgremlin Reply

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  • Some serious pace in the backline. Just hope our defence is also up to the challenge.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.01.18 13:27:16 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 4) : it’s quite possible Lwazi does and I just missed it….

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.01.18 13:28:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : I’m still convinced that Bosch will most likely be used at 15. RdP jnr must surely hold the favorites tag for 10. Though April irritates the crap out of me at times, he looks dangerous as impact player.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.01.18 13:30:32 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • It’s good to see our centre stock is whealthy for a change. Been an area of concern the past couple of seasons. Think Johan Deysel will shine this year of he gets some decent opportunities.

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.01.18 13:36:56 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • @boertjie101 (Comment 7) : I feel the same way about April.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.01.18 13:45:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wondering if we can trade April and Chilli for a quality tighthead?

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.01.18 14:53:58 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @boertjie101 (Comment 8) : Would love to see Am given a run at 12 again

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.01.18 14:58:37 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 11) : jeez me too.

    There’s a part of me that looks at Andre and thinks “Big boot, solid defence, played 15 as a kid” and wonders if we should try that. Let Am and Deysel/Ward be our centres.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.01.18 15:12:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : Seconded and it results in Marius Louw and Tristan Blewett getting a possible look-in more often.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.01.18 15:20:00 by vanmartin Reply
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  • late breaking news (and shit news) – it seems Inny Radebe has gone to the Lions. No official confirmation yet.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.01.18 15:27:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : sad to say but think it’s the best for him (and also for Ben10 to remain on loan to Kings).

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.01.18 15:37:28 by JD Reply
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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 4) : problem is finding a decent no3 that’s not already locked into a fireproof contract.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.01.18 15:40:27 by JD Reply
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  • just one question. andre esterhuizen playing some games at fullback?? will it be a bad idea or not? i heard he was playing some games at fullback. true or not???

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.01.18 15:41:30 by Darius de Lange Reply

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  • @Darius de Lange (Comment 1) : @robdylan (Comment 2) : I have a feeling that John-Hubert might step up in the absence of Coenie. Also think Ross was not to bad just maybe a bit “over played” and faded a bit in the last couple of games.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.01.18 15:48:16 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : @vanmartin (Comment 13) : @Darius de Lange (Comment 17) : could work but he will have to gain a couple of yards pace for it to work as I think some of the smaller faster wings might beat him out wide?! Personally I’d prefer Mvovo at 15 and André/Am as centre combo.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.01.18 15:51:42 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Man, that would suck if true. I like Inny.

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.01.18 15:54:40 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 15) : :shock: Do you seriously believe the Sharks should go into a Super Rugby season with only one out and out flyhalf? With only Bosch and April as, backup? No boet, we need Ben10, especially now, Ben10 will be needed for the Currie Cup Qualifiers or whatever that comp is called now, and will be needed to allow Rob some rest from time to time. Let’s also not forget that Rob has had a history of injury problems, so we can’t be too confident to have him always available.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.01.18 16:11:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Clearly as many have pointed out, TH and Hooker are thin, and a concern. But with Rob Jr. as the only out and out flyhalf in the squad, I am far more concerned about our prospects at 10. Yes, April and Bosch have shown they can provide some impact at 10, but both have also shows they are not good options as a starting 10. Somewhat surprised nobody else here sees this as a concern.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.01.18 16:14:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Tight head is a lottery now, Johnny might step up and maybe we are being harsh on Ross, he went straight for the kings to starting for us in the cc, a rest and a proper preseason might help, not to mention big strong lock and loose forward assisting him.

    Hooker is fine if we keep chilli and rotate, but if we let chilli go cause of bad vibes I still think we will be ok.

    Big fan of inny but hope if its true that he excels at the lions.

    Ben to stay at kings unless we need to recall him when needed.

    FH: Rob, bosch, april

    dont move andre to 15, teams will kick behind him and smoke him for speed.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.01.18 17:33:37 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : I feel like Tyler Paul is going to step up. The little I’ve seen of him shows he has lots of heart. Maybe a good Oosie comparison in 2018.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.01.18 17:33:42 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 24) : Also hopeful that Rhyno Smit comes back and gets his oppertunity. To me still better bet than April.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.01.18 17:35:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 22) : you’re spot on. i guess I kind of felt ok about this because we have Robbie and Curwin, but the reality is that we’re only one injury form disaster here. Losing Inny is a blow, but then Inny is pretty much always injured anyway. Garth simply not consistent enough to play 10 on the big stage every week.

    Fullback still worries me more than 10, but both are a big concern

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.01.18 17:54:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 23) : Ross Geldenhuys has one thing that nobody else in this sorry squad has…. I’ll let you guys work out what I’m talking about.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.01.18 17:55:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 24) : I like Tyler. I like him a lot. Problem is, though, he has to power through both JL and Jacques Vermeulen to get a run at 7. Not going to happen. Probably best if he supersubs at lock for the time being.

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.01.18 17:58:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : that’s easy boss a Super rugby winner medal!!! Come on make it tougher next time! ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.01.18 18:38:20 by JD Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) : personally I’d rather have Ben10 play for the Kings in Pro14 until March than play whatever lower competition is called! Think with Rob and Bosch Sharks should be ok for the start of the season. Don’t forget André also played 10 in Japan so in a pinch he can also probably do a job for half a game or so.

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.01.18 18:42:12 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : Super Rugby Winners Medal.

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.01.18 18:43:22 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 24) : @robdylan (Comment 28) : Tyler had a huge Currie cup at 4 so personally I’d like him to stay there. Think he could be the answer to the calls for Dan dP to move to 4 as Botha, Lewies and Andrews are all more 5 than no4 locks although they’re not bad when stuff gets physical.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.01.18 18:45:17 by JD Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 31) : haha beat you by 5min!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.01.18 18:48:55 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 30) : Far be it from me to argue with a fellow front rower, so you must think what works for you. Personally, with Rob’s recent run of injuries, and both Bosch’s and April’s frailty on defence, I am extremely worried about 10 for Super Rugby. As rob said above, we are one injury from disaster at 10.

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.01.18 20:24:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • We are crazy fortunate with good wings, maybe Kobus can get his springbok jacket at 15 for the sharks. If he can’t kick, he usually makes so much running metres the forwards don’t have to backtrack to support him.

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.01.18 20:45:04 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 33) : Lol it’s only pre season and your already bang in form JD, speed and accuracy

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.01.18 22:51:45 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 32) : Ja I agree. I think he can make his mark at lock. Let’s see if he makes them sit up and notice. I agree with Rob though at flank he has a harder path.

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.01.18 14:49:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 35) : I think he is good enough at wing to get his colors. Play Zas at 15 with Smith why use a fb with sub par kicking? His defence is very good and wing gives him freedom.

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.01.18 15:00:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 34) : Hopefully dick muir can help work those kinks out.

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.01.18 15:39:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 34) : Ja true but Ben is still young and I’m not sure he’s ready for Super rugby.

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.01.18 21:07:16 by JD Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 36) : hahaha or maybe I was a bit luck to see it first :lol:

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.01.18 21:09:07 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 37) : for sure can’t see him cracking at at 7 without a couple of injuries but at 4 it will be “easier” for him to get game time.

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.01.18 21:12:42 by JD Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 35) : @coolfusion (Comment 38) : think it’s a long season so rotation is important to keep players fresh and in form.

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.01.18 21:14:02 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 38) : Hopefully Zas doesn’t have any lasting ill effects from that injury he suffered

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.01.18 23:13:32 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 43) : Not a single RSA side has managed to get that balance right unfortunately, Rdup snr is a decent coach, just fear he isn’t brave enough to get it right. Agree with you on your statement

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.01.18 23:14:56 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 45) : Ja unfortunately “rotation” is only done once players get injured. Hope RobSnr can get it right with the help of Muir and co.

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.01.18 23:36:55 by JD Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 45) : That is a very slippery slope. Lions fans were ready to crucify Ackerman for rotating at crucial moments and then losing because he didn’t play his best team. If the coach must be brave the fans must be mature, and understand the risk. Not that we have too much say, but fans can’t go off on a crusade against him if the risk doesn’t work out.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.01.18 10:10:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 47) : Never heard a kiwi or Aus team complain regarding rotating players, we Rsa supporters are a fickle bunch. The coach has a hard job, the public makes it undesirable at best. However, we need all the players to be match fit, not just gym fit. Hence rotation is a must for these marathon tournaments.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.01.18 15:54:49 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 41) : Lol, I choose to believe in your mental sharpness JD, and I hope it’s a reflection of our team going forward this season.

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.01.18 17:22:11 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 48) : Agreed!

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.01.18 17:23:57 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Honest prediction: win the first 4 lose 3 win 3 lose 2 win 2 draw 1 win last game make quarters sneak into semis and after the 84th minute Sbu Nkosi crashes over under the posts to beat the hurricanes 21-20 in Wellington. Sharks finally reward us crazy fans with a victors medal

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.01.18 20:18:51 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks re-signings:

    Mzamo Majola – 2020
    Courtney Winnaar – 2020
    Akker van der Merwe – 2019
    Wian Vosloo – 2019
    Rhyno Smith – 2019
    Johan Deysel – 2019
    John-Hubert Meyer – 2020
    Jean Droste – 2019
    Louis Schreuder – 2020
    Jeremy Ward – 2020
    Thomas du Toit – 2019
    Lukhanyo Am – 2019
    Ruan Botha – 2019
    Sbu Nkosi – 2020

    https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/sharks-show-future-intent-with-host-of-re-signings-12637193

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.01.18 23:55:42 by Baylion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 51) : Only the craziest of fans would even try to predict what the sharks will do. I refer you back to the most recent curry cup. ;)

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.01.18 06:54:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I’m worried about 10; 3 & 2, but our options at centre are very exciting, and with Muir there I’m keen to see a more attacking and enterprising backline.

    Sad to see Inny go, but I think his continual injuries counted against him.

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.01.18 09:23:39 by StevieS Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 51) : may your dreams ag sorry prediction come true!!! But like @coolfusion (Comment 53) : said only crazy fans will try to predict what the Sharks do!!!

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.01.18 10:09:08 by JD Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 54) : Yeah and when he was fit he was too inconsistent. Wish him all the luck none the less, Now though we are a bit thin at 10, no out and out options at 10 beside Rob Jr.

    Also very keen to see what Muir is going to add to our style of play and how quick our players will be able to adapt to it. It’s a long competition, but starting strong has proven to be vital in the long run. It gives you some freedom in the later stages of the comp to rotate and play a bit more expansive.

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.01.18 10:34:42 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 56) : I hope we do rotate more. We tend to stick to the same team throughout, start off strongly and then fade as players get tired. To be cliche, this is a marathon and we need to plan smarter than we have done in the past. Adopt a horses for courses plan with regard to opposition, weather etc.

    I’m hoping we see no injuries at 10 or we could be in for a very long season.

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 53) : Still believe that match fixing is alive in the modern era, how could we squander that lead at half time to lose that ugly……..

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.01.18 12:37:43 by jdolivier Reply

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  • I see that SA Sevens Academy side ended up winning the Uruguay tournament. Anyone have any idea how Smith and du Plessis faired?

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.01.18 12:39:07 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 59) : afraid I don’t.

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.01.18 12:39:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Seems Inny Radebe failed his medical at the Lions and the deal is off

    http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/super-rugby/82730-failed-medical-costs-sharks-flyhalf-dearly

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.01.18 15:31:07 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 61) : eina. Bad luck for the young man!

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.01.18 15:38:38 by JD Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 57) : Yeah agreed, somehow most of our previous and current coaches all weren’t keen on rotating, can’t understand why, it’s crucial in the modern game to have strong backups as injuries are almost a guarantee in these long seasons.

    I am confident however that we will be stronger this year than we were last season.

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.01.18 16:09:34 by Quintin Reply

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  • I am surprised to see Lwazi with no contract extension, I thought he could add great value at 15, he has been a great servant for Sharks, but also no spring chicken, maybe he likes Kobe beef more than he first thought. We have plenty of options at wing, but 15 looks thin. On a side note worried about Hooker, Tighthead and sad to see Inny losing out on a contract with the Lions due to a failed medical, his knees really let him down. :(

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.01.18 16:53:46 by Richard Reply

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  • Agree with Rob’s speculation, don’t think Chilli is going to have a great time after the fiasco post-CC Final. He was properly burnt by the Sharks in the media. He is also no spring chicken, so will have to settle for playing 3rd Hooker for this season and be okay with that. (which I doubt he will).

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.01.18 16:58:07 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 64) : it’s possible Lwazi has extended and it just hasn’t been announced. I wouldn’t panic just yet

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.01.18 17:04:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 58) : Ja that took some doing to choke like that. Although they did seem to be slipping a little the game before as well.

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.01.18 17:29:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : hope you’re right!!!

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.01.18 21:29:58 by JD Reply
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  • Lwazi was great at fullback last year, hope he can make a similar impact. hopefully all our players come back from japan fit and not fat

    whose all in japan mvovo, lewies and ginger correct ?

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.01.18 23:29:04 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Who will be our imported player this season? Hopefully a decent fullback.

  • Comment 70, posted at 09.01.18 07:55:08 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 70) : Do we need an imported player? No. I’d rather wait and see if we extend Mvovo’s contract.

  • Comment 71, posted at 09.01.18 08:41:28 by Quintin Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 69) : And Andre

  • Comment 72, posted at 09.01.18 09:43:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 71) : Probably don’t need one, but it’s always exciting to have one. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 73, posted at 09.01.18 10:25:16 by Ben Reply
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  • A prop import probably wouldn’t hurt.

  • Comment 74, posted at 09.01.18 10:29:17 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 74) : Who was our last prop import? Matt Stevens? That did not work well at all…

  • Comment 75, posted at 09.01.18 12:06:00 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 75) : Ag hell no did you have to remind us of that!!!!!

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  • @robdylan (Comment 66) : Thanks Rob, hope so. He has so much to offer the Sharks still, I am watching this space.

  • Comment 77, posted at 09.01.18 17:28:41 by Richard Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 74) : Brian Mujati – would be a welcome addition, he has become a hard man in the North, and could push for a place back in the Bok team again… You never know…

  • Comment 78, posted at 09.01.18 17:29:50 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 78) : Nice idea, could be ideal

    he was very good for the lions and stormers, and has moved back and forth form england to france and back since he left for europe, wonder what shape his in, his a similar age to jannie, could be a great proposal to him, come back to sa, your likely flush with cash, live in durban, be a back up TH and coach, we can pay him as much as when he was in his prime but he probibly doesnt expect that anyway.

    only problem is once coenie is fit we will have four TH props, coenie, johnny, ross and brian

    he plan going forward is ross and johnny (maybe enoch) and in an emergency Tank at TH

    @Rob: thanks, forgot about Andre the giant

    No import needed in my view unless its a short term TH loan deal

    Lets give johnny and ross a chance guys, come on now.

  • Comment 79, posted at 09.01.18 17:59:46 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 79) : I think he could offer a lot even when Coenie is back, but chances are slim to none :( TH worries me big time, hope our squad boys can keep it tidy. Ross will have a lot to prove this season, his reputation took a hammering…

  • Comment 80, posted at 09.01.18 18:10:10 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 78) : @revolverocelot (Comment 79) : Just had a quick Wiki. Jannie is 35 Ross 34 and Brian 33 so he’s actually the youngest. Currently he’s contracted to Ospreys until the end of the 2017-18 season so can’t see him helping much in Super rugby.

  • Comment 81, posted at 09.01.18 19:56:38 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 81) : Thanks for doing the research, wow still very young for a prop about really experienced, unlikely to be that quick around the park but I doubt he’d be a defensive liability (sorry jannie)

    I had a look now as well, his been in wales since jan of 2017 and only made 7 appearances, strange that, though I agree its unlikely we persuade them to give him too us, also brians a dad to young kids, im sure their in school he would want to move them around. his a massive dude though, always thought of him as the TH version of beast. could make for a great coach once he retires. would love if he played for the sharks at some stage so long as its not when his over the hill (sorry mat stevens)

    My vote, coenie out, johnny starts, ross on bench, enoch given a chance if fit, tank in a emergency, and maybe we have a young prop from the u21 that we are unaware of, you never know. lions get props from club rugby and turn them into world beaters (not ruan dreyer, my god the most penulties given away in SR, lets make him a bok, and ignore lico louw until its too late)

  • Comment 82, posted at 10.01.18 02:44:21 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Speaking of Sharks tighthead prop options, did anyone see this? http://www.the42.ie/munster-keynan-knox-academy-tighthead-3788843-Jan2018/

    “PROMISING SOUTH AFRICAN tighthead prop Keynan Knox has linked up with Munster’s academy.

    The 118kg front row only finished school late last year, but has already moved to Ireland and is training with the southern province’s academy.

    Knox was the 1st XV captain of the Michaelhouse school last year, as well as starring for the KwaZulu-Natal Sharks provincial side at the U18 Craven Week”

  • Comment 83, posted at 10.01.18 10:10:03 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 83) : i believe he had already decided to go to WP before changing his mind and going to Ireland. So at least we’d kind of already lost him before this happened. Cold comfort.

  • Comment 84, posted at 10.01.18 11:58:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : Cold comfort indeed, especially as they seem to have recruited him as a possible future Ireland player

  • Comment 85, posted at 10.01.18 12:49:13 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 82) : pleasure. Was interesting to see Ross was linked to about 10 of the 14odd teams in SARU (and most Super rugby franchises). Also believe Meyer should start if he’s up to speed with Ross covering. Workload of Ross should be managed so that he can last the whole season.

  • Comment 86, posted at 10.01.18 20:28:49 by JD Reply
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  • and while we worry about choosing between Rob du Preez and Curwin Bosch, the Stormers contract George Whitehead because they have no 10s other than Damian Willemse and Joshua Stander :)

  • Comment 87, posted at 11.01.18 10:14:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 87) : They should have looked at Inny Radebe. Whitehead is a solid player though. Stomers lineup will be very interesting i think.

  • Comment 88, posted at 11.01.18 11:22:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 87) : well played… :grin:

  • Comment 89, posted at 11.01.18 13:31:48 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 87) : lol fun times, they feel that Damian and JL dupls are there guys at fh

    so they let coleman and thomson go and rob left them.

    but JLdplls is recovering form surgery, thus their options are thin, but that stander kid is no slouch.

    Our options are Rob, curwin, april, and if needed recall ben10 form kings like we did mzamo majola

  • Comment 90, posted at 11.01.18 16:22:46 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • So thought id start the year by putting forward my optimal Sharks team for 2018, based on injuries/form/difference of selection opinion im sure the actual Sharks team will not be exactly this but here goes my preferance:
    1. Beast 2. Marais 3. Meyer 4. Botha 5. Lewies 6. Van Der Walt 7. JL DuPreez 8. D DuPreez 9. Schreuder 10. R DuPreez 11. Mapimpi 12. Esterhuizen 13. Am 14. Mvovo 15. Bosch
    Bench: Dutoit, Van Der Merwe, Meyer, Paul, Daniel , Wright, Louw, Nkosi

  • Comment 91, posted at 12.01.18 10:03:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 91) : Hey! Stop the nepotism!! Three du Preez’s!!! You’ll get old Rob in trouble!!!! :mrgreen:
    Just kidding, of course…I would definitely pick all three u Preez’s.
    Nice team…who would your captain be?
    I would have Mvovo at 15, Curwin on the Bench, Nkosi at 11…I would rotate Bosch and van Wyk in regularly, Bosch at 15 and sometimes at 10 depending on the opposition.

  • Comment 92, posted at 12.01.18 11:03:34 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 92) : Hey if RDP himself is fit maybe he can play 9 to make it 4 DuPreez :mrgreen: Ruan Botha retains the captaincy for me, thought he was good during CC and his play was taken to next level as well. Reason i went with Bosch at 15 is that he has a very good and long kicking game so teams will be reluctant to kick onto him as he will return with interest, which means they will keep ball in hand more which allows our big hitters in defense, the like of Dupreez , Van Der Walt, Esterhuizen to do some damage.

  • Comment 93, posted at 12.01.18 11:06:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 81) : Yeah Brian was just hype for me, just being wishful – never grounded on anything real. :(

  • Comment 94, posted at 12.01.18 11:25:16 by Richard Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 91) : @pastorshark (Comment 92) : geez poor Meyer starting and on the bench!?!? How low are Ross on your list rating him lower than Meyer and then picking Meyer on the bench again rather than him!?!? Shame poor guy he must be gutted!!! :twisted:

  • Comment 95, posted at 12.01.18 13:29:21 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 95) : lol thought I was the only one who saw that, im happy keegs on the bench as super sub in the second half

    I would also have Mvovo start at fb and bosch as cover on the bench, ward as centre cover ahead of louw, deysel and blewett (lots of centres)

    our second team in the super sport rugby challenge should be decent, unless we are on tour and they lose players to the touring squad.

  • Comment 96, posted at 12.01.18 15:49:11 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • this Marcus Smith kid is getting the red carpet treatment in englands, is he that good ? havnt watched him much, he is very young, also shorter and bulkier than bosch, pretty much the same build as inny radebe.

    What does this mean for tim swiel at the quins I wonder, didnt whose their other fh options ? is tim relegated to the bench or reserve team unless a serious lose of form or injury, wonder if he would stay or go to france. Tim was only hear for a season, wondered why he didnt stay longer.

  • Comment 97, posted at 12.01.18 19:15:25 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 93) : Rob dup senior could be successful by now people will have forgotten his predictable blindside rush.

  • Comment 98, posted at 12.01.18 19:34:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Injury happy hour has started (or maybe it’s just continuing)…
    https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/stormers-set-to-lose-etzebeth-for-10-matches-20180113
    By the way, is Etzebeth really inspirational? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 99, posted at 13.01.18 10:15:35 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 99) : He gyms boet, that is what you need in cape town, jacked and ripped ;-)

  • Comment 100, posted at 13.01.18 10:56:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 91) : Solid team. I’d have Nokomis in the team ahead of Mvovo, though.

  • Comment 101, posted at 13.01.18 11:58:46 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 101) : No idea how to edit a comment. I meant to say Nkosi.

  • Comment 102, posted at 13.01.18 11:59:17 by Ben Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 100) : :o :mrgreen:

  • Comment 103, posted at 14.01.18 18:56:11 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 95) : haha good spot, didnt even realise. I originally had Meyer on the bench and Ross starting but decided to swap them and guess only swapped the one. But hey if he both start and be on the bench then great :) Tighthead is a big issue for me this year

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.01.18 08:58:04 by SheldonK Reply

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