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Neutral ref for Emirates Park clash


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 13 Feb 2018 at 11:24
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In some good news for the Sharks, up-and-coming Kiwi referee Glen Jackson has been handed the whistle for this weekend’s Super Rugby clash against the Lions.

Fans will still be smarting after the refereeing shit show dished out by local man Marius van der Westhuizen in last year’s closely contested quarter-final at the same venue, with the feeling that “the Lions had to win for the good of SA Rugby” perhaps leading to some rather questionable on-field decisions, none more contentious than the sin-binning of Stephan Lewies, without prior warning, for an innocuous offence. The decision proved costly and turned a match that had been slipping away from the home side in the face of a ferocious Sharks onslaught.

The Sharks will hope that Jackson will blow the game on its merits and will look to secure their first Super Rugby victory over the Lions in several years; they will take plenty of confidence from beating these foes twice in Currie Cup last year, thus breaking a rather long winless streak in all competitions against the men from Johannesburg.

AJ Jacobs and Cwengile Jadazweni will run the touchlines, while the spectre of Marius Jonker, who played his own role in last year’s debacle, unfortunately continues to loom large from the TMO box.

Kick-off at Emirates Airline Park is at 17h15 on Saturday.



60 Comments

  • Good decision. Our refs are too dependent on the masses. Any hint of a probable line-up as yet Rob? Can’t wait till Saturday, the off-season has been long.

  • Comment 1, posted at 13.02.18 11:50:20 by boertjie101 Reply
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  • Good news

  • Comment 2, posted at 13.02.18 11:51:19 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • I would expect the starting pack to remain unchanged from the one that faced Racing 92. In the backline I would guess the only change would come in the form of Esterhuizen replacing Ward.

  • Comment 3, posted at 13.02.18 11:57:09 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • Apologies, meant Esterhuizen replacing Louw.

  • Comment 4, posted at 13.02.18 11:57:54 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • If all these guys are fit i would like to see this team:
    1. Schoeman 2. Marais 3. DuToit 4. Botha 5. Lewies 6. Van Der Walt 7. Vermuelen 8. D DuPreez 9. Wright 10 R DuPreez 11. Mapimpi 12. Louw 13. Am 14. Van Wyk 15. Mvovo
    Bench: Beast, Akker, Geldenhuys, Paul, Daniel , Claasens, Bosch, Esterhuizen

    Its tough on some guys but there is a lot of rugby still to be played.

  • Comment 5, posted at 13.02.18 12:23:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 5) : A solid team you’ve got there. We are fortunate this year with the amount of depth we’ve got in certain positions.

  • Comment 6, posted at 13.02.18 12:26:28 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • I think we will start as Beast Franco Thomas Ruan Stephan Philip Jacques Dan Cam Rob Makezole Andre Luk Kobus Lwazi

  • Comment 7, posted at 13.02.18 12:28:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 5) : @robdylan (Comment 7) : And I think the politicians will hit us with a big stick with those teams. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 13.02.18 12:38:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Jackson gives me a bit of pause (I remember a hammering Sharks got vs Hurricanes with him refereeing), but Blimey, way less biased than the local fellas. Also, at least it’s not that Bulls chap who definitively hates the Sharks as TMO…the name escapes me, but Gary Gold will remember

  • Comment 9, posted at 13.02.18 12:39:37 by SeanJeff Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 8) : fortunately we don’t talk about that here

  • Comment 10, posted at 13.02.18 12:39:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • My team would be:
    15 Lwazi
    14 Van Wyk
    13 Am
    12 Andre
    11 Mapimpi
    10 Rob jr
    09 Wright
    08 Phillip
    07 Dan
    06 Vermeulen/Keegan
    05 Botha Capt
    04 Lewies
    03 Tank
    02 Franco
    01 Beast

    Reserves:
    16 Akker
    17 Schoeman
    18 Meyer
    19 Paul
    20 Claasens
    21 Curwin
    22 Louw
    23 Nkosi

    Yes I would go with 1 less loose forward and play a extra back, speed up and tackle hard, Tyler Paul covers 4 and 7.

  • Comment 11, posted at 13.02.18 12:51:59 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • It’s interesting that Muir thinks the Lions will kick more onto the Sharks back three than they normally kick

    http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/super-rugby/83269-audio-sharks-expect-aerial-bombardment-from-lions

  • Comment 12, posted at 13.02.18 13:13:38 by Baylion Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Ah Rob, as the head honcho on here you shouldn’t feed the monster. :evil:
    Little wonder the ref gets the blame even before the teams run onto the pitch :mrgreen:
    Stirring aside, hope the Sharks have a sterling Super season. Seeing I have no team in S15, I will back my hillbilly cousins from the East Coast :evil:

  • Comment 13, posted at 13.02.18 13:15:43 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) : Yeah I know, but I also know that towards the end of the season team make ups normally get prominent media space with unions and coaches in the spotlight. the chances are pretty good that teams will be selected with this in mind.

  • Comment 14, posted at 13.02.18 13:30:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 13) : :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 13.02.18 13:30:44 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 11) : You must have looked at my notes, exact team I have on my wishlist :lol: How anyone can look at that lineup and not feel excited, I don’t know.

  • Comment 16, posted at 13.02.18 14:48:38 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 16) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I good like that :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: I am not so sure you had the reserves like that?? ;-) ;-) :lol: :lol:

    And of course this is taking injured players into account….

  • Comment 17, posted at 13.02.18 14:52:21 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 17) : Not the reserves no, that would have been too creepy :cool:

    Bring on Saturday as quick as possible universe, kthx!

  • Comment 18, posted at 13.02.18 15:07:12 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @Mephisto_Shark (Comment 18) : :lol:

  • Comment 19, posted at 13.02.18 15:26:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 13) : hahaha as one of your hillbilly cousins I thank you for your support! :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 13.02.18 21:39:19 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : yup think you’re spot on with that team. Only wildcard is maybe Louw for André if the latter is not 100% over his sushi-season.

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.02.18 21:41:56 by JD Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 9) : That would be Johann Greeff…

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.02.18 06:12:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 13) : My New Year’s resolution is not to talk about referees…
    Let’s see how long that lasts…

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.02.18 06:17:23 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 20) : Just get the shots in early JD. Have to rile the locals into action, so they can be all fire and brimstone for the season. Good luck for your team Bud, very excited to see good old Sharks rugby….I can almost say good old Banana Boy rugby.

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.02.18 07:01:57 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 23) : Too lat mate, i also said that and now “Lets blame Rob” he has poisoned our minds :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.02.18 10:21:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Also think we might see Louw instead of Andre because of him playing in Japan but I won’t mind either of them starting. We have a real good chance to get one over them from early. We should see it as a gift and take the opportunity.

    This comp is so unpredictable early season it’s almost impossible to make any predictions up until halfway through(well except for the new guys from Jap and to a lesser extent Arg).

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.02.18 10:35:05 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 26) : Andre has returned looking a lot slimmer, seems he has been working hard.

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.02.18 10:57:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • JUST A NOTICE HERE FOR THOSE WHO KNEW MARK SETZER!!!
    I know many know here knew Mark who has sadly passed away, he leaves behind a wife and 2 sons, he was a wonderful friend and an honor to have know for many years now, may he RIP and condolences to his family.

    Mark was a WP supporter but i know he used to blog all over on the top rugby sites.

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.02.18 13:19:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 28) : what handle did he use?

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.02.18 13:35:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 25) : haha – I have so much power!

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.02.18 13:36:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • The pre-match anticipation is starting to build, I absolutely cannot wait for this Saturday!
    Going to be an absolutely huge match.
    Talk of aerial kicking on our back three, interesting.
    Rohan VS Andre is huge.
    Rob VS Elton.
    Going to be an absolute cracker.
    Hoping our forwards are ferocious and set-up a good ball for our boys to work with.
    I am very interested to see the make-up of our bench – good Lord, I cannot wait!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.02.18 13:41:30 by Richard Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 23) : Hey Pastor, trust you are well. It is a difficult one, as we do sometimes see bias, even if it ain’t there, and sometimes we do have real bad calls that go against us. So it is easy to go down that road. Good luck for your team….. ok “our” team

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.02.18 13:54:20 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : Stormersboy

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.02.18 13:55:02 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.02.18 13:55:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) : amazingly enough he didn’t register here

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.02.18 14:02:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Surprising, he always had good things to say about the Sharks, Anyhow I know some of the peeps in here that used to go to Keo or Rugby-Talk or Rugby365 knew him, Sad day none the less,

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.02.18 14:23:18 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 31) : If we can shut the Lions down up front it will go a long way to winning. Playing at Ellis Park if the Lions get front foot ball they will be tough to stop. Will be very interesting to see the two lineups.

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.02.18 15:03:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 24) : hahaha thanks bud! Cheetahs doing ok in Pro14! Wonder what will happen if they manage to qualify for Heineken Cup. If they’re allowed to play it would be a huge boost for their finances.

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.02.18 15:32:29 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : you power hungry dictator!!!! :shock:

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.02.18 15:33:30 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : Ja Sharks usually struggle to beat top sides if their forwards struggle. My big concern is at tight head for the Sharks. Not sure if Big Tom, Meyer or Ross are 100% ready to start in Super rugby but really hoping at least one of them prove me wrong!

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.02.18 15:40:15 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 40) : Tighthead is also a concern for me. But DuToit needs to own that position now…and if he does the Bok one is open too.
    I think the Sharks can still make a game for it on the coast if their forwards dont get upper hand, but on the highveld it becomes very taxing if forwards are on the back foot and the game normally gets away from them in latter stages

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.02.18 15:47:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : Absolutely, we showed how to beat them in the playoff game last year, and we need to emulate that intensity up front. I feel quietly confident.

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.02.18 15:54:43 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 42) : Its an amazing thing self doubt…if we can get ahead and force them into a few errors…with a new coach etc they will start doubting themselves

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.02.18 16:09:18 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 43) : @SheldonK (Comment 41) : Well they did have Swys in the CC season already no? They didn’t do too well at all but they did miss some key personnel then. I agree regarding the forwards, they have a real good balance of tight and loose players up front. Stop them and you are already more than halfway there.

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.02.18 17:14:42 by Quintin Reply

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  • Also, if we close the space in 9/10 channel and apply pressure on Elton similar to what he will experience on international level, then you pretty much take him out of the game. He’s good in SR, but we’ve seen him struggle in almost all the tight games he’s been involved in.

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.02.18 17:19:17 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 45) : Agree to some extent. But I would say focus should be on pressuing his forwards to dampen his confidence. I’ve seen Elton ball in hand and he can step his way very well out of trouble and into space. So I would not bargain too much on direct pressure on him.

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.02.18 18:46:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 38) : if the cheetahs finish the season in a position that would grant a team a place in one of the two euro comps the spot gets given to the next best team or everyone shifts up as it were, for example if the cheetahs make the final and win (which could happen in a few years)

    Im so excited, cant wait for the team announcements tomorrow and kick off on saturday

    gotta get my superbru and fantasy league setup, may have two fantasy league teams this season.

    Sorry to hear about the passing of a prominent blogger :( . I remember him being fair and mostly unbaised, and contributing good banter on Keo

  • Comment 47, posted at 14.02.18 21:35:38 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 47) : thanks for the info did not know that. Pity for them as playimg in the European tournaments could have opened up huge sponsorship potential.

  • Comment 48, posted at 14.02.18 21:44:53 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 46) : Look, I will never say Jantjies is a scared player, but if you have to defenders like du Preez Jnr and AE marking you (combined with a hit or 2 from Vermeulen and Ginger Ninja) and getting in a few early decent hits, he will feel it. One of the reasons why we did so well against them last year in the group stage match is that Bosch actually did a great job of marking and tackling him. He can’t step if he is properly closed down and it will be difficult to get good ball away with our rushed defense. I won’t say that should be our main focus point, but if Elton plays well, the lions play well, so it might not be a bad idea to try and get a few big hits in on him to try and disrupt him. Add a few missed kicks at goal from him then and it could become a very long 80 minutes for the lions!

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.02.18 07:14:40 by HeinF Reply

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  • Finally. A neutral ref. Thank the heavens. :roll:

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.02.18 08:33:29 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 44) : Yeh thats my point, CC didnt go too well for them with Swys. So a few errors and Sharks points could very easily bring those doubts back into their mind. A small amount of doubt makes a huge difference. DOnt get me wrong they will still be very tough to beat at Ellis Park, but i do think we have a realistic chance. Going to be interesting to see the new tackle/ruck law being reffed

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.02.18 09:18:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 38) : That would be a great boost. They first have to show, they can win on the road. Maybe next season they might be allowed to qualify for the EC.

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.02.18 09:26:26 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 48) : It isn’t an option after this debut season, but it may become an option going forward. If I recall the Cheetahs and Kings are secured in Pro14 for the next two seasons as well.

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.02.18 09:28:26 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 46) : @HeinF (Comment 49) : Exactly what I meant. Don’t have to base the game plan around it, just close down his space enough for him to feel the pressure(which is btw something he can’t handle) early on.

    @SheldonK (Comment 51) : Yes I agree, but as with any new law, I suspect we will see some shocking mistakes being made by the refs and players in the opening stages, let’s just hope it will be ironed out by the time the play-offs commence.

    Also, the law which prohibits you from kicking the ball out of the ruck(only allowed in a backwards motion) is welcoming to me. I’ve seen it happen in games where someone would kick the ball out of the ruck and get a turn over with quick ball. Puts the initial attacking team on the back foot immediately.

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.02.18 09:46:26 by Quintin Reply

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  • i will give andre another 2 games to 3 games rest and work him in slowly back in the starting line up.

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.02.18 10:01:20 by Darius de Lange Reply

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  • I hope the players know who is playing on Saturday, at this rate the public will only find out the team when they run onto the park on game day.

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.02.18 10:02:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Darius de Lange (Comment 55) : Agree but won’t rest him completely, bench, 20mins per game for 1 or 2 games to see how he goes.

    @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 56) : Don’t they usually announce the team around 11:00-13:00?

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.02.18 10:11:08 by Quintin Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 53) : To me it would be silly from them to ‘include’ you guys in the competition but also, don’t? If the rules state the top teams go through to HC and the Cheetahs are one of them, so it should be.

    I think that, with the inclusion of the Kings and Cheetahs into the Pro 14, surely they have thought of that possibility. I do understand though that given they are new to the comp they won’t be considered for qualification in their 1st season but I really do hope they are in contention for the seasons thereafter.

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.02.18 10:32:56 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 57) : First team of the season should have been announced on Monday. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.02.18 10:44:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 58) : Agree. My understanding is that going forward they would qualify for the European Cup (Heineken Cup). I may be wrong, but that is how I understood it. The first season they didn’t get inclusion, due to them being included late, and the rules were already negotiated with regards to qualification for EC.

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.02.18 11:47:22 by KingCheetah Reply

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