Unproven combinations stunt Sharks


Written by (tomwatchingsports)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 19 Feb 2018 at 19:23
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With an opening encounter against a powerful Lions team that some pundits said would be worth two wins if the Sharks could cause the upset, it was surprising to see a number of previously untried combinations from Rob du Preez in a game of such magnitude.

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The most notable of these was of course in the front row, where the switching of Thomas du Toit from loosehead to tighthead looks like a gamble that may not pay off. The injury to Coenie Oosthuizen seems to have confused du Preez slightly – that the Beast wasn’t starting this game at 1 and John-Hubert Meyer at 3 is bizarre. Mtawarira is, arguably, the Sharks’ best player in any position and you do wonder how long he can be content with sitting on the bench in crunch games such as this. The scrum went from embarrassing to dominating when the Beast and Meyer were brought on.

It wasn’t only the front row where du Preez fudged his combinations. The Lions quickly identified new boy Mapimpi as the weakest link in the Sharks back three and went after him horribly; Mapimpi missed as many as five tackles in the game and, for all his pace, looks a concern considering he will be facing the likes of Julian Savea later on in the competition. Cobus van Wyk singlehandedly ran the Sharks out of trouble on numerous occasions last season, and unless he was carrying a niggle, he must have felt aggrieved to have been left out of the starting XV. A back three of Nkosi, van Wyk and Mvovo is a proven one that can provide flair but more importantly, act as a far better defence.

After doing a little too much tinkering pre-game, du Preez was reluctant to change things in the first half despite the scrum woes. This seems to be taboo in all sport (even Jose Mourinho is ridiculed when he substitutes a player in the first half) but there was a sad inevitability about the failed Sharks attacking scrum in the Lions 22 at the end of the first half and the missed points as a result of this.

Having had a dig at du Preez for some questionable combinations, it must be said that the now solid combination of Esterhuizen and Am at 12 and 13 look the real deal. They were brutal on defence and after a year playing together seemed to have formed a great understanding with one another. This only adds to the frustration of not seeing last season’s proven back three start the game.

With the Sharks’ roster capable of mounting a serious Super Rugby championship charge, management can’t afford to dream about what may lie ahead for players in the future. The Sharks had several players on the bench Saturday who have proven themselves at the highest level of this competition, and with injuries mounting up (again), it is these guys who will invariably have the biggest say in how this campaign plays out.



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  • Early days. I think the sharks did well as a team, not for one second did I doubt they commitment to cause which is a huge improvement from last season.

    Rob jr needs to work on goal kicking alil bit more and the tank needs another shot at tighthead if they are serious about converting him.
    He didn’t do so bad when beast was on so there’s something to work with.

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.02.18 19:40:38 by Poisy Reply
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  • Saw enough positives in the game, we can’t start the witch hunt after the first game of the season, let’s give the guys some time first before we say Rob snr doesn’t have a clue what he is doing.

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.02.18 19:55:59 by Tintin Reply

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  • Agreed on most points made. Rob Sr must have seen something to have played the players in question. Our only real let down was the front row, but take nothing away from the Lions front row whom have played together for a while now and are a powerhouse especially with Marx, whom is really a powerful scrummaging hooker. If something is not working however after a few scrums you need to look at fixing it. I would suggest Mapimpi at this stage as a super sub for when the game gets a bit more open where he could use he feet and pace.

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.02.18 20:12:01 by Flintshark Reply

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  • The Sharks’ backline “struggled” on defence. This is one of the issues I was very interested in before the game as the Sharks move to a more attacking game. We saw it at the Lions and last year at the stormers. As a team moves to a more attacking game its defensive systems seem to take a while to catch up, especially against counter attacks. I’ll be interested to see how the Sharks address this in the coming weeks

    The Sharks starting backline missed 15 tackles

    Tackles made/Tackles missed
    Mvovo 1/0
    Nkosi 3/1
    Am 7/3
    Esterhuizen 5/2
    Mapimpi 4/5
    du Preez 9/2 (another site has him at 8/3)
    Wright 1/2

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.02.18 20:22:03 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Tintin (Comment 2) : Agreed, just for a game that means a lot in terms of the SA conference, those personnel decisions were a bit confusing. I suppose we don’t have the Kings twice a season to try new things out anymore…

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.02.18 20:46:02 by tomwatchingsports Reply
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  • @tomwatchingsports (Comment 5) : Uhm?

    Kings 35-32 Sharks

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.02.18 20:54:23 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 6) : I didn’t say we did well against them, just that they were perceived to be the worst side/gimme..

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.02.18 22:10:58 by tomwatchingsports Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 4) : thanks interesting reading! For me the main problem to fix is the scrum and ball control in tackle/ruck situations! Think the rest will come good.

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.02.18 23:26:00 by JD Reply
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  • Those locks as a combination are not to be played together against a South African or NZ side. Two number 5′s playing together. We lost Oosterhuizen and his physicality and value to the team can’t be underestimated. The only lock that comes close is Tyler. Botha must go back to five so he can scrum behind Thomas.

  • Comment 9, posted at 20.02.18 05:40:10 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 9) : ummmmmm 4 locks usually scrum on the tighthead side. 4 locks are generally shorter, heavier, stronger than 5 locks, who tend to be taller and not carry as much weight. Most teams put their strongest lock (usually the 4 lock) behind the tighthead. Most teams also use their 4 locks to jump in the front of the lineout and 5s in the middle, since they tend to be a little shorter and don’t jump quite as well. All generalizations of course.

  • Comment 10, posted at 20.02.18 06:03:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 10) : I would play my strongest scrumming lock behind my weaker prop, regardless of number though.

  • Comment 11, posted at 20.02.18 06:04:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Early days yet…

    If we are going to point out potential weaknesses in combinations we also need to give credit where it’s due. The untried Cam & Rob combo looked promising.

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.02.18 08:07:07 by vanmartin Reply
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  • They know what they are doing with Thomas, he’ll come right.

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.02.18 08:43:24 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • I think we tend to forget that with our terrible scrum and missed tackles etc we were still one decent lineout drive away from drawing this game. Thats was the margin. So yes the scrum needs work- i personally think we just need to be more proactive in that area as we seem to be reactive to the Lions hit on the weekend. And in terms of the missed tackles, well besides changing selections and hoping the new guy doesnt miss its tough for a coach to change that. For me the biggest thing RDP Snr can change is getting the players to be more decisive in open play in terms of when to offload and when to go to ground…way too often we would be going to ground and try this miraculous offload only for the player looking to clean the ruck to knock it forward etc.

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.02.18 08:46:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 10) : Lewis was scrummaging behind Thomas. That was never going to work if we were serious about supporting Thomas.

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.02.18 08:50:53 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • We have a serious tight 5 and defense problem. It is too early in the season to being haveing such a problems. It strikes me as just not being prepared enough. And I thought we would be serious contenders this year. A serious contender plays like the Lions did this past Saturday.

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.02.18 09:06:56 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • The problems, which cost us the game against the Lions, aren’t new. The scrums, breakdowns and defence have been issues for a while and also cost us the CC Final. To me, that’s more worrying and why I don’t buy the “first game rustiness” excuse.

    When the scrum sort of started holding up in the second half, we had long periods of ascendancy in both possession and field position but still couldn’t win the game.

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.02.18 09:43:33 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : One decent lineout drive, and also one blatant forward pass from Warren Whitely for their first half try.

    With respect to the missed tackles – the defensive system for the Sharks has changed dramatically. It seems like one player will try to trap the attacking player with the ball, and a second support player will help hold up or drive back the attacking player while they are on their feet. This forces a maul and a turnover. It looks like Braam van Straaten has done his homework on the new law changes and is trying to force turnovers without using a traditional fetcher. (Unfortunately, the turnover restart is from a scrum, which wasn’t great for us this weekend.) I think the missed tackle count will improve as the players get used to the new system and each other. And don’t forget that Mapimpi came into this side very late and has had less exposure to the new system than the other players – he is usually no slouch on defence.

    Great article, Tom!

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.02.18 10:13:20 by josefgremlin Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 18) : Yeh good points. Must admit i dont recall that Whiteley pass.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.02.18 10:36:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 18) : That pass wasn’t forward. Whiteley was stopped by a tackle as soon as the ball left his hands which will always make the pass look forward.

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.02.18 10:36:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 15) : Are you sure? I am pretty certain Ruan was scrumming behind Thomas

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.02.18 10:45:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 18) : Thanks!

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.02.18 12:03:58 by tomwatchingsports Reply
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  • @josefgremlin (Comment 18) : I am a Mapimpi fan and always have been, fact though is his defence was woeful and had nothing to do with being new, attitude must be right to defend, he just threw his arm out on many occasions, coach needs to work on his attitude then you will see a difference.

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.02.18 12:29:31 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : I respectfully disagree. Yes, Sbu Nkosi smashed into Whitely as soon as he caught the ball, but to my (admittedly partisan) eyes, the ball travels forward from his hands.
    Credit to Whitely for standing in the tackle and getting the pass away; he’s bulked up a fair bit while he’s been away.

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.02.18 12:32:33 by josefgremlin Reply

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  • There must have been a plan for Beast to be on the bench, maybe they visualised something else and stuck to their guns when we were just one score out at half time.

    I won’t make changes to the starting backline just yet, as Kobus can be seen as a centre and wing and offers something off the bench, that is for now, as squad management will be crucial this season.

    Defensively there is much to work on, we know upfront the scrum is a problem and we will expect Beast to anchor the Number 1 position, they are sticking with Thomas at Tighthead and they’ll have to work on that. Considering this was the first match back the skill levels were pretty decent, there was a breakdown in communication here and there, handling did cost us momentum, and I do agree with Coach Robert that were impatient and inaccurate with our execution. We’ll have to maintain intensity and use the Durban weather to our advantage against the Tahs.

    Much work to do, but the team is looking good.

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.02.18 12:34:36 by Richard Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 17) : Am I the only one who thought that our breakdowns were much better?

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.02.18 13:23:44 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Agreed…guys complained about two forward passes…both weren’t forward…

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.02.18 13:25:15 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 26) : I thought we were good at the breakdown at the beginning of the game but as we neared the end I feel our bruisers were to slow to the breakdown and we started to get turned over a lot. I don’t have a problem with a big loose trio starting but we need some quicker players (of any size) to the breakdown for the end.

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.02.18 15:31:16 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Rob – still no news on the injuries from Saturday, The Sharks not making any announcements in lieu of the bye?

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.02.18 17:10:38 by Richard Reply

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  • ‘Thomas thrown to the wolves’

    Four former Springbok props on whether Thomas du Toit can make a successful conversion from loosehead to tighthead.

    http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/thomas-thrown-to-the-wolves

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.02.18 17:18:30 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 30) : Yeah just read that article myself – despite all that is being said and done, I agree with Kempson’s point of view, despite the lack of tightheads, I still think he should be the next King of looseheads at Kings Park and fight it out with Kitshoff for starting honours – if this backfires it will negatively affect his career. Coenie took two seasons or more, and now because he is injured they are bringing him across – if he were not injured I don’t very much this motion would have come to the table, highlighting short-term thinking. Thomas is playing himself out of Springbok contention at current and will need hands-on technical coaching – so wherever Pieter de Villiers is, I suggest he come to Kings Park pronto and work with Thomas.

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.02.18 17:29:16 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 31) : We might not have world class #3s at the moment but we have some who can operate there and some who can develop rather than ruin a good loosehead.

    Nyakane – not world class but he can stand him man okay
    Wilco Louw – potential to be world class in time
    Dreyer – potential to be world class (I know many will disagree but once his set-up against top looseheads is fixed he will be good there. So fix it)
    Ox Nche – can scrum both sides, develop him.

    Identify some young #3 props to be focused on
    Frans van Wyk (Bulls), Johnny Meyer (Sharks), Johannes Jonker (Lions)….

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.02.18 17:45:50 by Baylion Reply

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  • Ollie Le Roux’s view, and I agree.

    ‘You don’t get good young tightheads, you only get good old tightheads. That’s because they have been scrummed and hurt, and with that experience they become good tightheads. There is no quick fix at tighthead. It takes a while for a prop to become a master of his craft. Thomas definitely has the potential to be a really good tighthead. But people want to move him to there without giving him the proper technique or support, which has created a situation where he has been thrown to the wolves. At the U20 World Championship he annihilated everybody as a loosehead, then he goes to tighthead and gets scrummed. It doesn’t mean that he is weak, it means that there is a technical problem in the Sharks’ scrum. I firmly believe Thomas has been thrown in the deep end without the right support, and it is upsetting, as he has the potential to be a devastating tighthead with the right players around him.’

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.02.18 17:55:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • http://sharksrugby.co.za/injury-update-11/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.02.18 17:55:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 31) : Os du Rand or Ollie le roux Or Kempson could also help. Get a specialist consultant to work with all the prospective tight heads.

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.02.18 17:56:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • News on injuries not bad,

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.02.18 17:56:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Injury Update:

    Dan Du Preez – shoulder ligament tear – 4 weeks.
    Cameron Wright – concussion – training subject to return to play protocol
    Jean-Luc Du Preez – back in full training next week with return for March
    Louis Schreuder – back in training next week –
    Akker Van Der Merwe – shoulder strain, back in full training

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.02.18 17:57:01 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 31) : The problem is he has the potential to be both, now he gets advised by Peter De Villiers for example and being young he takes that advice, it hurts his career but in my view he should either get the best scrumming coach available to coach him or be left at LH, then to top it he gets played at TH with an inexperienced Hooker and Loose head next to him and he gets the blame, not right one the player, and in that article all 4 props are basically right in their view, Ollie also right but Ollie also says how to do it right.

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.02.18 18:01:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 37) : Dammit Richard I gave you the article at least read it right old chap, Akker has an elbow strain :shock: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.02.18 18:05:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 37) : Actually no mention of Keegan if you think about it, and he was meant to start last weekend and then did not due to a niggle?

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.02.18 18:06:33 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 39) : Tennis elbow? :)

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.02.18 18:06:59 by Baylion Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : Didn’t the commentators say it’s a stomach bug? Suzie?

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.02.18 18:08:00 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 41) : :lol: :lol: :lol: Ja Ja Bay, blerrie spy :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.02.18 18:10:16 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 43) : Don’t worry, it’s a while before we have to worry about the sharks again :)

    Note the small caps :)

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.02.18 18:12:41 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 44) : :lol: :lol: :lol: Yup ons wag in Durbs vir julle, last year we got robbed, this year Lions won fair and square, so revenge needed :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.02.18 18:16:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 44) : Jokes aside, the teams were about equal, BUT…… the lions were hungry for the win, they were more aggressive “not in a dirty way” aggression well channeled.

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.02.18 18:17:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 45) : I thought you got robbed in Joburg.

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.02.18 18:17:58 by Baylion Reply

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  • Not this year :roll:

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.02.18 18:18:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 48) : I mean last year. Wasn’t the Durbs win fair?

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.02.18 18:21:59 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 49) : I think it was, only in JHB is what I meant.

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.02.18 18:24:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 49) : One cannot blame officiating every time, gotta admit when a better team won on the day. It’s like some said there was a lions try with a forward pass, there was no try off a forward pass.

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.02.18 18:25:25 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : to put it plainly Keegan had the shits. So he wasn’t injured to start with! Haha. Sorry man, I jumped the gun, shoulda read the article. ;)

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.02.18 18:38:30 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 52) : :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.02.18 18:44:10 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 29) : Does that sound like anything too bad. Will get it up in the morning.

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.02.18 22:17:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 28) : That’s fair. I do think Dan going off and Tyler Paul coming on probably pushes the balance of our trio even further towards what you are saying…

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.02.18 22:18:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Hey Guys. This is my first time commenting on this site although I’ve been reading the articles since about 2011. Never wanted to comment because I am a Lions supporter and didn’t want to intrude. However, I love the comment section on this site. You guys talk rugby with a lot of knowledge, give respect to teams where it is due and you are active. I know there is a couple of Lions supporters here and would love to participate in future discussions.

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.02.18 23:00:45 by Rey Spies Reply

     
  • @Rey Spies (Comment 56) : With a first post like that, you are welcome to post on here any time.Congratulations on your team’s efforts this past weekend, hope we return the favour in Durbs. ;-) Welcome to the comments section of SharksWorld. All the supporters of other teams are awesome here…..it’s just that McLovin WP supporter that……. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: J/K love McLovin…

  • Comment 57, posted at 21.02.18 03:35:53 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Rey Spies (Comment 56) : Just remember, The Sharks are the best and Lambie is the one true king :cool:

  • Comment 58, posted at 21.02.18 07:25:04 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 58) : With Sbu Nkosi next in line to the throne

  • Comment 59, posted at 21.02.18 07:47:53 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 58) : Hear hear

  • Comment 60, posted at 21.02.18 07:52:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I see every man and his dog throwing his 3 cents into this DuToit debate so here is mine. Firstly i think we should be clear that the Sharks scrum issues were not down to DuToit alone, our loosehead and the whole scrum was being shunted. Then onto DuToit, i personally feel he has been coasting along without improving sicne he arrived at the Sharks. When he arrived he was a big boy, much bigger than his age group peers and as such could get away with dominating on purely his size. When he arrived he was quick around the park and carried the ball in open play a lot. Since then he has been injured a fair bit, picked up a lot of weight and hasnt really carried the ball in open play. We should also bear in mind that it was at loosehead where he got his head pretty much shoved where the sun dont shine in the CC final by Wilco Louw. So for me, DuToit needs to man up, drop weight, do some extra work on his technique and be the quality prop we signed him to be.

  • Comment 61, posted at 21.02.18 08:00:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 61) : Whoa man, that’s some serious fighting talk there! What’s next, calling Lambie an average flyhalf!? :mrgreen:

    But for the record, I’m in complete agreement with you

  • Comment 62, posted at 21.02.18 09:58:59 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 35) : My vote is still with Pieter De Villiers and Balie Swart. To be honest, given Ollie’s attitude and infamy, wouldn’t really want him near The Sharks pack.
    Besides Kempson, Ollie and Os are all looseheads, Garvey was a great tighthead and has a close affiliation with The Sharks.

  • Comment 63, posted at 21.02.18 10:24:07 by Richard Reply

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  • @Rey Spies (Comment 56) : welcome, Rey and thanks for the kind words!

  • Comment 64, posted at 21.02.18 10:24:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 62) : Hey Lambie’s King, ’nuff said :smile:

    @SheldonK (Comment 61) : Fair analysis. I’ve been a huge Thomas fan from day one and therefore may have ignored his shortcoming. I’ll watch him and keep your thoughts in mind. I think his weight has looked a bit iffy and would have liked to seem him “slim down” over the years.

  • Comment 65, posted at 21.02.18 10:32:11 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 63) : What is the situation with Balie Swart nowaday? I know he consults at the Lions but he’s not with them fulltime

  • Comment 66, posted at 21.02.18 10:34:28 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 62) : Im probably one of the very few that still thinks Lambie should have stayed a fullback….

  • Comment 67, posted at 21.02.18 10:34:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 65) : Yeh look dont get me wrong i rate DuToit highly, but i do prefer the more mobile, ball carrying DuToit that first arrived at the Sharks to the current 2018 version. For lack of a better term he is a big bastard and if he can find his feet at tighthead there will be many a loosehad that will be in trouble.

  • Comment 68, posted at 21.02.18 10:37:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 66) : You took the words out of my mouth, I believe he is an incredible knowledge and wished The Sharks held onto him full time, as far as I know, he is a consultant only, as he also has his own business interests too.

  • Comment 69, posted at 21.02.18 10:52:19 by Richard Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 67) : Watch your mouth, heathen!

  • Comment 70, posted at 21.02.18 11:33:25 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 69) : Apparently Balie is still employed by SARU as a sort of floating scrum consultant but as far as I know only the Lions are using him regularly

  • Comment 71, posted at 21.02.18 12:25:42 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 71) : Hmmm. Well, it looks like they are benefitting big time, their scrum is one of the most destructive around at the moment.
    If he is working for SARU still, then it is a crying shame The Sharks have not made more use of him. The Sharks need a specialist scrum coach available to them / or make use of the ones that are available. Shotgun pointed at the foot, with a finger on the trigger.

  • Comment 72, posted at 21.02.18 12:29:24 by Richard Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 70) : :mrgreen: :cool:

  • Comment 73, posted at 21.02.18 12:29:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 71) : Damn, Sharks really need to give him a call. If Rassie has said he wants Thomas at TH then it only makes sense to ship Balie to Durban to get Thomas as much help as possible. Unless of course our coaches have said they don’t want him here or just feel they don’t need him, which would be a crying shame.

  • Comment 74, posted at 21.02.18 15:45:18 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 70) : :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 75, posted at 21.02.18 16:02:48 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Make sense to call Balie in for help. Especially since he cut his coaching teeth at the Sharks way back in 2003 / 2004 if I recall correctly

    I reckon the entire scrumming effort needs a bit of a revamp

  • Comment 76, posted at 21.02.18 16:27:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 76) : Agree. Yes you need to gain experience but good mentoring is not to sneezed at.

  • Comment 77, posted at 21.02.18 18:20:42 by coolfusion Reply

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