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Sharks blow it


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 3 Mar 2018 at 16:52

The Sharks have drawn 24-all with the Waratahs at Kings Park today, in a game where the dominant home side had only themselves to blame for countless stupid mistakes that allowed their visitors to stay in the contest.

From the first whistle, the Sharks combined the sublime with the utterly, utterly ridiculous. A good initial foray down the left hand flank was undone as Keegan Daniel foolishly flung the ball away, allowing the Tahs to counter; a phase or two later and Rob du Preez dropped the ball just in front of the tryline, with visiting scrumhalf Jake Gordon scampering over for the opening score from the ensuing scrum. Time and again, the home side would secure the ball, only to cough it up again tamely in contact or through unnecessary forced offloads and passes.

A series of raids deep in Waratahs territory came to naught – with the Sharks’ line-out drive once again misfiring, but du Preez did at least manage to secure three points through a penalty. A stunning try to Lukhanyo Am followed, with the centre showing just what could have been had the Sharks managed to hang on to the ball more often. A brilliant break by oh-so-strong Andre Esterhuizen saw the Sharks into the 22, with Louis Schreuder following up to take the offload and pop to Am off the ground. Du Preez converted for a 10-7 lead, which was again wiped out when Tahs man Bernard Foley stroked over a penalty eight minutes from halftime. Beast Mtawarira was held up over the line in the final moments of the half, leaving the game deadlocked at 10-all.

More of the same followed after the break, before Am once again broke the deadlock with his second try. It was again a beautiful piece of work, with Akker van der Merwe taking the pass from Cameron Wright and popping the ball up for the centre to run onto.

At 17-10, the Sharks should have taken control and put the game to bed, only for Daniel to suffer a brain implosion minutes later. With his team badly needing to slow things down and consolidate, Daniel foolishly took a quick lineout throw to himself, passed the ball directly to Michael Hooper and than had to watch flabbergasted as the Waratahs captains scored the try to once again bring his team level. Replacement Marius Louw appeared to have saved the home side some blushes when his audacious chip and regather found space for du Preez to score with less than ten minutes to play, but once again, the Sharks conspired to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

A long clearance kick from Curwin Bosch saw a lackadaisical follow up from the Sharks, with the Tahs only too pleased to take advantage of the fractured chasing line to put replacement halfback Mitch Short over in the left hand corner. Foley nailed the tricky conversion and the Tahs watched a late Bosch penalty and then drop-goal attempt sail wide as they played down the clock.

For the Sharks, with just three points from their first two games and a tricky tour looming, things are already looking dire. They were the architects of their own demise today, however and deserve whatever their coach throws at them for delivering such a disappointing result against so lowly a foe.

Sharks (24): Tries Am (2), du Preez. Conversions du Preez (3). Penalty du Preez.
Waratahs: (24): Tries Gordon, Hooper, Short. Conversions Foley (3). Penalty Foley.



77 Comments

  • Scrum penalties not awarded, dodgy lineouts for the warathas?? We were crap, they were allowed to draw

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.03.18 16:59:10 by jdolivier Reply
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  • At the risk of sounding melodramatic: that was a terrible result! So many opportunities in a game we should have won relatively comfortably…to walk away with a draw is like a loss. Initial reaction: just disappointed…

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.03.18 17:02:10 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Absolutely poor execution. Only ourselves to blame. Esterhuyzen was brilliant as was Am. Louw made a great impact. The rest were poor. We need to take a hard look at ourselves if we want to stake a claim

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.03.18 17:12:25 by Fox Reply

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  • You could have just left out the “it” from the headline. :twisted:

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.03.18 17:13:33 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • We are not title contenders, plain and simple. Would prefer u21s or u19s in our loose trio to be honest. Can’t be worse than Keegan “King of the Brain Farts” Daniel.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.03.18 17:14:02 by woody Reply
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  • @woody (Comment 5) : Don’t forget tera has the game started yet mtembu

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.03.18 17:19:32 by jdolivier Reply

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  • The most disapointing aspect to me was Ruan Botha. That wasnt a captains effort at all. He played like he didnt want his hair to get messed up. He should lead from the front

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.03.18 17:27:07 by tigershark Reply

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  • The Bulls are getting schooled!

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.03.18 17:34:27 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 8) : Lions powering through their forwards. Impressive.

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.03.18 17:36:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 9) : One of the best mauls this season so far.

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.03.18 17:38:08 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 9) : Jip!

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.03.18 17:39:37 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Bulls will have to lift this ball. Lions forwards too strong.

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.03.18 17:47:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sharks are a shambles. This is a very poor Waratahs team.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.03.18 17:51:18 by Loosehead Reply

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  • Lions bulls game a lot better to watch.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.03.18 17:52:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Think I will from now on just watch the highlights package to check the Sharks scoring some excellent tries. That way I can miss the utter kak play inbetween.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.03.18 18:19:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 15) : Watch the lions game. Much better.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.03.18 18:27:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Missed the game. Sounds like I dodged a bullet

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.03.18 19:48:05 by Poisy Reply
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  • The Sharks, I’ve seen turds flushed down the loo fight harder. What a positively horrible game of rugby. I said the entire week I feel weird about this game. That was a pathetic attempt to beat a very, very weak team. Not a very good start to the season. Two games we could have won. That’s not how Champions play. The fans will be rabid after what feels like yet another false dawn.

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.03.18 19:55:00 by Richard Reply

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  • Where did we fall down today?

    Nkosi needs to be told to reign in that sonny bill shit. If you can’t do it, don’t. If I were coach he would have been yanked off the field by the 30th minute.
    Keegan and his stupid over thinking things. Between him and Nkosi butchering a sure thing and him and his “do it alone” lineout cost us 14 points.
    Last of all I think it’s clear Meyer should be starting over Thomas. I love Thomas but Meyer is better, he gets the start. Earn your jersey boy. Enough with the preferential treatment…

    These guys best pull their heads of of their asses because tonight was simply not good enough. I don’t want to hear coaches and players talking about paying the fans back and playing for the jersey, showing character or any of that other PR bull. I want to see it. Prove how you feel through actions not hollow words and droopy eyes. It’s early days and we can change things but that must be now and not in week 7.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.03.18 21:57:22 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 4) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.03.18 22:01:11 by pastorshark Reply
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  • http://www.reactiongifs.com/nevermind/

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.03.18 23:03:15 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Guys I know we are all upset to different degrees

    But wow did I laugh when peyper had to go find hooper and when he did asked hooper “are you ok” hooper looks up and says “I’m knackered” lol

    I suspect it was gamesmanship from the ozzie captain but wow was it funny in the moment

    tahs had just given three long arm penalties away in one move and jaco had to find hooper to give them a team warning, I think hooper was purposefully hiding to buy time and pretend they did nothing wrong ?

    cant believe we lots to a tahs team with only 7/8 quality players and we kept folau and beale relatively out of the game.

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.03.18 02:05:22 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • These guys look disjointed, uninterested and very unfit. Our entire pack is just wrong. I’m very shocked and alarmed by what I saw yesterday. We are so far off the pace when compared to the other 3 SA franchises that I don’t see us having a good season. Botha must go back to 5. Thomas back to 1. Bosch must start at fullback. Cameron looks the business at 9.

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.03.18 05:14:57 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I watched the game again and it was really such soft moments that let them back into the game. Whenever we scored points we gifted them points back. We scored some fantastic tries. Esterhuyzen really was immense as was Am. They work so well together as a centre pair. Rob dup had a good game too. We just had to many brainfarts on the day and that cost us a bonus point win. Our forwards had a poor game. Vermeulen, Marais, Keegan, Tyler Paul, Thomas, Botha were anonymous throughout the game. Terra was even worse when he came on. We miss the twins ferocity in the carry and rucks and Ginger in his calmness. I also feel this weekend we need to rotate a bit. My team for this weekend will be.
    1. Beast
    2. Akker
    3. Meyer
    4. Tyler Paul
    5. Botha
    6. Ginger (if available) or Keegan
    7. Vermeulen
    8. Terra
    9. Wright
    10. Rob dup
    11. Nkosi
    12. Esterhuyzen
    13. Am
    14. Van Wyk
    15. Bosch

    16. Marais
    17. Schoeman
    18. Thomas
    19. Lewies
    20. Vosloo
    21. Schreuder
    22. Louw
    23. Mvovo

    Any thoughts?

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.03.18 08:01:20 by Fox Reply

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  • Did no one see Esterhuizen being tripped off the ball by the Tahs 18 for their try? He was on cross defense, would have made that tackle easily.

    None the less, we were poor as hell, butchered some great opportunities and as good as KD was in pre-season, just as bad was he in this game. Nkosi should also be taught to hold onto the ball in a tackle, tried to offload everything.

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.03.18 10:16:17 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 24) : To me AE was the MOM, he was great in almost every facet of his play. Agree re Wright starting, Schreuder was very slow to clear the ball from the rucks and Wright just reads the game better.

    You say Terra was bad but include him in your starting 15?

    Mvovo looked out of sorts in this game too?

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.03.18 10:20:02 by Quintin Reply

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  • Someone please tell me what Ruan Botha offers? For his size he is extremely weak and seems afraid to get stuck in when needed most. Extremely overrated player.

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.03.18 10:59:06 by Dustin Emslie Reply

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  • Esterhuizen was a machine yesterday. Running over defenders, making big tackles. Am, despite making a few errors, was also excellent.

    Mvovo made a few good runs but also made some schoolboy mistake. Nkosi looks dangerous with ball in hand but his positioning and reading of the game, i.e knowing when to pass or just to hold onto the ball, was shocking at times.

    Van Wyk was too quiet for my liking. Bring Mapimpi back in against a depleted Sunwolves. Also, maybe give Du Preez a rest before a tough tour and start Bosch at 10.

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.03.18 11:03:32 by Dustin Emslie Reply

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  • Bulls fans have a lot more to be proud of today. Brave 13 man stand they put up. To think our forwards against the lions we’re stronger and made them play different strategy and then looking at how much the lions overpowered bulls at the front. It just pisses me off that we don’t do more with what we have.

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.03.18 11:18:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 29) : Exactly the discussion we had last night after that match. I really don’t want to become like the Streamers was when Jean, Schalla, Habana, Fourie etc. were there. All those great players on paper but nothing to show for it.

    We know the quality of our players, that’s why we expect more from them than what they are showing us.

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.03.18 11:52:19 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Dustin Emslie (Comment 27) : Surely you can’t blame a nr. 5 lock for playing like he’s used to in a nr. 4 jumper? He’s just not that type of player. Botha is really good in his natural role. I said it before the match, we need some more mongrel in our pack as we’ve lost substantial enforcers in the likes of Coenie(injury) and EO leaving. We need an out and out nr. 4 lock in the Oosthuizen/Bresler mould.

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.03.18 11:59:56 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin agree on all your points. Only reason I included Terra is he has experience and we all know he is better than what he showed yesterday. That team for me will give us front foot ball for our dangerous backs to finish under the posts. I feel we can’t make to many changes as our combos have not played together enough. Especially Rob dup and Wright/Schreuder. I also feel that Thomas will gain more experience at tighthead from the bench for a couple of games. Tyler Paul can be a fine no 4 if given time there. Botha is at his best at 5. We do miss the twins and Ginger more than we admit

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.03.18 12:58:55 by Fox Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 32) : And start with a real TH , give Thomas his experience last 15 minutes if we have to persist with this experiment. Oh and start Akker. Yes his line throws need work but we are willing to force Thomas into TH but not grow our hookers skills?

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.03.18 13:40:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Our loose forwards were bad. Why did the coaches leave Paul and Vermeulen on for the entire game? The heat seemed to drained all their energy after the first 5 minutes and contributed to the defensive lapses ie. The last try. Aside from AE and Am Nkosi was huge on defence and showed the commitment that was lacking by so many. Van Wyk jogging behind the Tahs prop while Nkosi (from the other wing) sprinting to cover tackle says a lot. RdP jr had a bad day and should have been subbed instead of Mvovo. I assume that the conditions played a huge part in the quality of the game but as Am said in the post match interview no excuse for the home team in home conditions.

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.03.18 13:49:27 by sudhir Reply

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  • Michael Hooper was every where on the field. Impressive display by him.

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.03.18 14:00:41 by sudhir Reply

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  • @Fox (Comment 32) : I think we need to seriously look at playing Dan at 4, yes he’s not that tall, but he brings more grunt than either of our locks at the moment. I was never a fan of Dan playing there, but it looks like we are going to have to work with what we’ve got.

    I’m not saying Lewies or Botha is bad, not at all, both of them got national call ups when on form, but they are both nr. 5 locks.

    @sudhir (Comment 34) : Mvovo didn’t have one of his best games. He looked uncharacteristically nervous in the opening 10mins, but come to think of it so did the rest of the team. I’m really glad we have good centers now(problem area previously) but we need our whole team to fire on all cylinders.

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.03.18 14:07:56 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 36) : Move Tyler Paul back to 4. Bring Geldenhys back and he must start at 3. Botha must go back to 5. Rob du Perez is so dumb though. Why move completely away from the CC game plan? All that was required to do was after the forwards had done the damage the backs would then be given the ball to run. Now the forwards are trying to pass the ball at every moment even to a player that is in a worse off position. Also the time of the year does not allow for an all out attack game. We should be really causing damage with our pack in those conditions and letting the ball go in the last 20 minutes when the opponent has been physically and mentally defeated. The Lions used their superior pack to dominate the Bulls and ran the ball when the opportunity arose. Our tactics, defense, game management, fitness, coordination are all in the rubish bin. I’m a very concerned fan. What I saw yesterday

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.03.18 14:32:12 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • How good is Zas at 15? Maybe he should be subbing for wing and 15. Curwin sub for 10.

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.03.18 15:05:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 37) : Why is Geldenhuis out? Injury?

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.03.18 15:05:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Ross came back to training a week ago, he had a unannounced injury, tank did ok at tight head and so did johnny when he made a appearance off the bench

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.03.18 16:38:16 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Please allow me some venting time here:

    1) All out rugby has our handling errors at 49! Someone must be accountable for this.Its certainly not like its a new problem and the du preez boys all suffer with this more than most which tells me Rdp snr doesn’t take it seriously.

    2) Our season tickets cost way more than a individual ticket to each game(including the test match and possible playoffs) yet we are already out of contention to win super rugby in my opinion.

    3) Rdp has been given time to make changes and has been backed with some good signings, at what point is it time to expect to see a team that doesn’t knock on 49 times. I would be angry if the 14D side produced a stat like that. When you look at the minutes the ball is in play and the percentage of time we have it that a knock less than every 30 seconds

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.03.18 09:17:35 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Just a bit of food for thought…
    International caps in each team (according to wikipedia)…..Waratahs 332 (backline 199 / forwards133), Sharks 124 (backline 19 / forwards 105) Beast has 98 and Mvovs 17, Keegan 6 and then Lukanyo, Schreuder and Lewies 1 each of which I dont think 1 of these were starting, Am I know had a few seconds in the Bok jersey.

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.03.18 09:23:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 42) : I take your point and we always seem to struggle against ozzie teams but 49 handling errors by the sharks made this one of the worst home games i have ever had to watch and I attended regularly during the Putt era.

    I have not been this dissapointed in a performance in years and as indicated above I am a little miffed by the season ticket issue already. Smit got a lot of abuse from fans, some deserved but I am not all that keen on paying double for my loyalty and then being asked to watch that absolute rubbish.

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.03.18 09:36:15 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 43) : Ive only watched the first half and it was not great but I have seen a hell of a lot worse from the Sharks.My impression of the game (1st half) is that the team is embracing fast paced free flowing game plan (Dick Muirs influence) which basically requires someone to be in a position to take a pass from any position that the ball carrier finds themselves in. It looked to me as if the team is embracing this approach but that at this stage its still forced and not yet a natural part of the players game. It should come in time but at this stage its going to be a very fine balancing act to get it right.

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.03.18 09:59:47 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 44) : Certainly a change in the way we are playing and Dicks game is the way to go I have no doubt but in all seriousness we are unlikely to be in a position to get a home playoff and that means another year gone. What have the last two currie cups and super rugby been for? Its not like Rdp is a new coach. Swys and Mitchell are both new and who would you rather watch play? I just cant find a way to justify a knock on every 30 seconds.

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.03.18 10:05:42 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 45) : I would rather go fishing than watch most rugby these days, hence only having watched the first half. Rob du Preez may not be new to the Sharks but Dick Muir and the brand he is asking to implement is and that is going to take time for all to be instinctively comfortable with it. It still doesnt excuse basic handling / defensive errors though. As far as Swys goes he has been with this group of Lions for a good while now.Mitchells Bulls are actually in a very similar position to what we are, they too are trying to play a brand of rugby that they are not yet instinctively comfortable with. They will get there and so should we. Bulls though have better weather conditions at this time of year to hone their skills.

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.03.18 10:37:39 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • If Robert Du Preez is screaming patience maybe he must have a one on one with his Robert jr over breakfast. His son must therefore not spread the ball down the backing when it’s not on. He must pass the ball back to the forwards whom will must running on either side giving him options.

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.03.18 10:48:51 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Some really really good tries scored by the Sharks for a change.

    All the ball lost in contact, inability to put a decent maul together and the brainless play at times (here’s looking at you – Keegan) is very concerning though.

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.03.18 10:53:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • With moving house i wasnt able to watch the game. With running commentary from a mate at the stadium it seems its the same old Sharks again this year. Lots of excitement, very little dogged fight and plenty of handling errors and unforced errors that contribute to our own downfall. A playoff spot will be a good recovery.

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.03.18 10:59:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 46) : You are a lucky man. I used to fish but now with a lightie I am lucky to get the sharks game on the weekend and not much else. I am all for the change as I said but then I don’t really see the point of Rdp being involved at all. Lets give the team to Dick write the season off(its basically already gone) and expect big things next year. The players are there in my opinion.

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.03.18 11:04:20 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • I watched Robert Du Preez’s media briefing after the game, and I must say I have not seen a more indifferent, disinterested, unprofessional and downright rude coach addressing the journalists. That was a disgrace.

    Moving on, he bemoaned the humidity, but why play this type of game, if it is not on, I question our gameplan, we looked like a more complete team last year in the Currie Cup, working toward a total plan, and now we are trying a game that doesn’t work – the forwards must work the hards yards, and the backs must deal with good ball.

    We really cocked this one up, and we have The Sunwolves who now present a real challenge to us, sadly – then a hard tour, we need to rally, if not this season in just round 4 could fast slip away from us.

    I’m still angry at this result, we should have put them to the sword with good basic rugby – that was pathetic, and that defence in the last quarter was lacklustre – there was no cohesion and strong leadership.

    Botha disappointed me greatly.

    All in all not very happy. Lucky not to have croaked in this game and surrender those 2 points.

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.03.18 11:35:33 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 51) : I think we will klap the sunwolves because they are awful but then if we do well and win 2 games on tour our chances are already gone. You need to finish top two to have a real chance of winning and 3 losses and a draw by week 8 will be the end of that.

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.03.18 11:41:05 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 51) : I have just watched du Preez press conference and I cant agree with you. He isnt rude to anyone, he is disappointed yes and honest and not looking for excuses. His answers are short and to the point but thats how he mostly is.

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.03.18 12:28:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Handling errors and making silly decisions are constant Sharks problems over the last number of years. Unfortunately both those are tough for a coach to change- can throw balls at aguy all day long but if he cant catch under pressure then not much he can do other than not pick the guy but i think we can all see he is mainly picking who we all would pick. Same with the decision making. To me it just seems the Sharks players are mentally weak

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.03.18 12:37:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Surely the Sharks players all live in Durban? Are they not training in the heat of the day to get used to the conditions?

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.03.18 12:38:33 by Loosehead Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 53) : Have to agree. I’d rather the coach is fuming and sullen than someone like AC who will blow smoke up arses and pretend everything is rosy.

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.03.18 12:39:17 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 52) : Sunwolves are not as awful as you think. They have recruited well, and will be a handful. Underestimate them at your peril. In Lappies and Willie Britz, they have two players that will tackle and tackle all day. They might not be as tough on the road, but in the land of the rising sun, they are going to be tough.

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.03.18 12:50:14 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Loosehead (Comment 55) : Agree. Am said that they were familiar with those conditions and had no excuses. Vermeulen and Paul looked dead on their feet after 5 minutes but remained on for 80! This also contributed to the Waratahs last try as Paul failed to pass the ball to the faster man on his outside resulting in a turnover. What irks me the most is that he chased back all the way whereas Van Wyk just gave up and jogged behind the prop. The conditions and gameplan also did not suit our big heavy loose forwards.

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.03.18 13:21:27 by sudhir Reply

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  • As poorly as the Sharks played this weekend, I reckon two crucial decisions cost us the game. Firstly we had a penalty late in the first half right in front of the posts. The commentators even reckoned we could’ve thrown that ball over. That’s how easy the kick would have been. But we rather opted for the scrum and knocked the ball on. That ended up as the half time score. Secondly, what was Keegan thinking? We were ahead by seven points at that stage. The last thing you want to do is to speed the game up. I would have understood his thinking had we been trailing at that stage, but a very stupid decision by an experienced player. Am and Esterhuizen was really good and our scrums were a massive improvement from last weekend.

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.03.18 13:24:11 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • Out next three fixtures are crucial now. We can accept nothing less than 5 points against Sunwolves and we need to start our tour with two wins against the Ausies. As bad as the Sharks look at the moment, the Brumbies look worse. While the Rebels started their season quite well, I reckon we can beat them. I’m not too hopeful about the games against the Blues and Canes though.

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.03.18 13:27:28 by boertjie101 Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 57) : They are certainly better than last year but would be surprised to see them knock too many teams over away from home.

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.03.18 13:39:39 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • I was at the game, and I don’t think even hell can get that humid. Rob should have planned for that in the gameplan. When will these coaches learn that you do not play a free flowing game late Feb/early March in Durban? I never thought that we will win the trophy this year, these laaities need experience, as long as we can be competitive and show betterment every week then I would be happy. Cam needs to start, that guy’s passing belong in a art gallery. Esterhuizen was very good and SuperAm was just Super again. Mvovo needs to work on his positioning at the back. Kobus should have used this game to cement his place in the team ahead of Mapimpi but I think he blew it. The Tahs should have been penalized way more but with that muppet of a ref we knew it would never be fair game. Thomas scrummed much better but it is as if his move to 3 affected his off the ball performance. We lost so much by letting Ettiene go. But I still think this team is very close to clicking, and then there will be trouble for the other teams. I would have preffered it if we went on tour first as that builds team spirit and by the time the team is back the humidity in Durban would have settled which allows for better running rugby.

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.03.18 13:56:30 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 53) : and I can’t agree with you. That’s not how you hold pressers. If that’s how he is, then he needs to take some PR lessons. I thought it was not very nice to see at all. One word answers and shit body language. Nope.

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.03.18 13:56:30 by Richard Reply

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  • @Richard (Comment 63) : He is always like that.

  • Comment 64, posted at 05.03.18 13:57:06 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @boertjie101 (Comment 59) : Yeah not taking those 3 points bugged me as well, it seems to be a common tendency these days with teams backing themselves instead of taking the points on offer.

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.03.18 13:59:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Richard (Comment 63) : “Was it first game jitters” No – the only one word answer given to a question that only required a one word answer. Giving pressers is clearly not his favourite thing but I think you are reading too much into the way he is doing it – there is no malice there and when the answer requires a bit more he gives it. Im sure the journos and most fans would rather have a presser with the coach than with some PR specialist who will rehash all the common cliched nice sounding answers.

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.03.18 14:11:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Anyone else notice how Tank gets the same sore shoulder looked at in each game? The switch is going to cause an injury, watch :cry:

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.03.18 14:33:08 by Mephisto_Shark Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 62) :Was also at the game and agree with you nobody can train for that humidity there was also a constant swirling wind.
    But I was crucified here before the game when I questioned the lack of a loose trio, and was unfortunately proved right, each of the four players that passed as a loose trio for us made the weekly bloopers reel, each one was abysmal.
    Also my good friend shit Peyper is always worth at least 10 points for any Sharks position team and good old Jaco didn’t disappoint.
    Walked away from that game seriously pissed off because there were periods of that game that were sublime.Andre Esterhuizen was magnificent.
    Surely the best 12 we have seen in this country for years,Robert junior and Am will only get better playing around that rock, and no that is not a derogatory term.
    Schreuder was a little rusty and maybe a little gun shy which is normal for a player coming back from injury, the Thomas experiment is a failure and the sooner that boy is put back in his rightful position the better.
    We should have won this game, we were the better team
    Last thought Michael Hooper is a helluva a player and should have been man of the match

  • Comment 68, posted at 05.03.18 14:45:54 by The hound Reply
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  • The Sharks really need to calm down – frenetic headless rugby at the moment. Unfortunately the senior players (Botha and Daniel) did not show a lot of leadership, and Keegan was also guilty of some awful decisions.

  • Comment 69, posted at 05.03.18 14:50:55 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : I agree, my mood dropped as soon as I saw Peyper was the ref. Esterhuizen seems to have come back a much better player after being coached by King Carlos for a bit, maybe the Sharks should try and lure him as a skills coach? Yes our loose trio seriously lacked. The sooner the twins are back the better, saw them before the game on the outer fields, those laaities are huge! Thomas will turn out to be an ok tighthead but he has the potential to become a world beater at loosehead, Johnny Meyer has suprised me with the progress he has made and I definitely agree that he should start a game now. Akker is another player that deserves a start.

  • Comment 70, posted at 05.03.18 15:01:44 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • Hi guys. i”ve been reading this site for about 7 years and thank you rob for all you have done. I almost never post something on here (well once before ) but this laaitie van die kaap has had it. Did no one notice how crap R. dup jr is playing. Does he now where the touch line is on the kings park stadium? Both april and bosch did better than him in there starting games. How i do miss lamby. Regarding the loose we urgently need a fetcher , since busmark and marcell left our forwards have been on the back foot , and please if the game plan does not work like saterday please lern them to change their game play. I can just hope we can improve from now on otherwise another long season for sharks fans.

  • Comment 71, posted at 05.03.18 16:06:38 by osbal Reply

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  • realise this sunwolves game is the final fixture where we are out and out favourites, except maybe for the final fixture at home against the Jags

  • Comment 72, posted at 05.03.18 16:15:13 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : Could you please link to the post(s) in which you were crucified?

  • Comment 73, posted at 05.03.18 17:18:20 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I don’t think Rob jnr. Was that bad. We placed ourselves in precarious situations. Agree we should get Akker Johny and geldenhuis in but a lot had to do with the mental state of the whole team vets included. Next level is not only talent but our game awareness which honestly seems unfocused and uncohesive.

  • Comment 74, posted at 05.03.18 18:53:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 68) :

    Glad to see your angry persona alive and well here.
    I read the other day about a denizen of Sharksworld who died from apoplexy and immediately thought of the Hound.

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.03.18 03:36:19 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 73) : Too literal, he called it though and no one agreed (in the nicest way) with Hound.

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.03.18 08:38:02 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Ok so I watched the entire game last night and I dont think you can sum it up any better than Rob did in the article….”From the first whistle, the Sharks combined the sublime with the utterly, utterly ridiculous”. There was some really good play dished up. Standouts for me were our centres,Esterhuysen especially, on attack and defense, Nkosi was big on defense, both scrummies were mostly good. Thomas was better than some here make out, he did not give an inch but when Meyer came on the scrum gained immediate dominance, still does not say that Thomas was bad. Generally the team and individuals showed some very good signs but its almost as if each player (even the standouts) managed to commit at least one monumental stuff up which gave an overall feeling of despair, which on the whole I dont think is needed.

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.03.18 10:33:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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