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My Bok team to win the World Cup


Written by Stephen Smith (StevieS)

Posted in :Original Content, RWC 2019, Springboks on 24 May 2018 at 14:52
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We’re heading into the June test window, so I thought I’d prepare a rather tongue-in-cheek article on how our team should look for us to stand any chance of winning the World Cup in 2019.

Firstly, we are due a win. There were 12 years between our victores in 1995 and 2007, and 2019 will be 12 years since our last victory. So far so good.

Now, on to team selection. I have run my eye over the two teams from the finals and found some noticeable comparisons:

• The fullback must be from Natal, preferably having first played his rugby elsewhere before he joined the Sharks (Andre Joubert 1995, Percy Montgomery 2007)
• The right wing should be from Natal (James Small 1995, JP Pietersen 2007)
• The outside centre should be from the Lions (Japie Mulder 1995, Jacque Fourie 2007)
• You need a shorter left wing (Chester Williams 1995, Bryan Habana 2007)
• Your flyhalf needs to be from Maritzburg College (Joel Stransky 1995, Butch James 2007 – Just imagine if we’d included Peter Grant in our 2011 team!!!)
• Your scrummy must be from the Bulls (Joost van der Westhuizen 1995, Fourie du Preez 2007)
• Your 8th man must play most of his rugby at lock and must pull off match winning tackles (Mark Andrews 1995, Danie Rossouw 2007)
• Your Blindside flank must have a reputation for being tough as nails (Ruben Kruger 1995, Juan Smith 2007)
• Your locks need to be from the same province (Hannes Strydom and Kobus Wiese 1995, Victor Matfield and Bakkies Botha 2007)
• You need to have Os in your team!!! (1995 & 2007) – Maybe him being part of the coaching team will be enough?
• Your reserve hooker has to have grown up/played for/lived in the Free State (Naka Drotske 1995, Bismarck du Plessis 2007)
Taking the above into account, I’ll take a stab at a Bok Team. Please feel free to provide your own team or find any other commonalities which I may have missed:

15. Curwin Bosch
14. Sbu Nkosi
13. Rohan Janse van Rensburg
12. Frans Steyn
11. Cheslin Kolbe (shortest I could think of)
10. Keagan Collyer (current Maritzburg College 1st XV flyhalf)
9. Embrose Papier
8. Franco Mostert
7. Duane Vermeulen
6. Warren Whiteley
5. Pieter-Steph Du Toit / Lood de Jager
4. Eben Etzebeth / RG Snyman
3. Coenie Oosthuizen
2. Malcom Marx
1. Beast Mtawarira

16. Adriaan Strauss
17. Steven Kitshoff
18. Wilco Louw
19. Lood de Jager/Pieter-Steph Du Toit
20. Jean-Luc du Preez
21. Cameron Wright
22. Handre Pollard
23. Warrick Gelant

Coach: Rassie Erasmus
Forwards Coach: Os du Randt



33 Comments

  • Surely Butch can have a go at 10 still… Cant do worse than any other 10.. Look. We havent had a good 10 since 2007

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.05.18 15:01:08 by ebenp Reply
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  • Pretty interesting team in the article, not bad by any means…well except at 10. :mrgreen:
    I think World Cups are won with experience as well as having a bit of youth to add something unpredictable.
    So with that being said, and thinking a bit outside the box as i believe thats the only way the Boks stand a real chance:
    1. Beast 2. Marx 3. Coenie 4. Etzebeth 5. Snyman 6. JL DuPreez 7. PSDT 8. Whiteley 9. Warner 10. Pollard 11. Am 12. Steyn 13. Kriel 14. DeAllende 15. Gelant
    Bench: Kitshoff, Akker, DuToit, De Jager, Vermuelen, Wright, R DuPreez, Bosch

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.05.18 15:06:35 by SheldonK Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 2) : No reserve tighthead?

    Good looking team, and some real power in that backline. You thinking along the lines of the All Black 2011 team with SBW and Kahui on the wings?

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.05.18 15:14:39 by StevieS Reply
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  • Choice of captain seems to causing a tear in the fabric of space-time. Do you go with Whitely or Marx? I guess Whitely has the strongest case – playing for the Lions and also selected at 6.

    Also the coach needs to be English speaking and never have played for the Boks – so no Rassie then

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.05.18 15:15:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Isn’t Grant still with the Force?

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.05.18 15:17:56 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 3) : He picked Thomas Du Toit for bench TH

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.05.18 15:18:52 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 3) : DuToit reserve tighhead. My thinking is that in World Cups the breakdown is reffed like the NH- whichever teams gets the biggest bodies there kinda wins the ball. A speedy ball palying 8 to link forwards and backs. Numerous lineout options so opposition lineout always under pressure. A 10 that can take it to the line and then a backline where there is both pace and power so opposition cant shift as any of those guys woukld easily break a weak shoulder. Also have multiple kicking options that are capable of slotting penalities from anywhere.

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.05.18 15:24:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 7) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 6) : blonde moment. Bold choice, but a good one. Thomas has been scrumming better at tighthead and he’s playing well in the loose.

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.05.18 15:31:17 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 4) : Whitley as my captain.

    Good point about the coach. I missed that :grin:

    @Richard Ferguson (Comment 5) : I considered Grant but as he’s in Australia and not looking to move I decided to be bold :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.05.18 15:33:38 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 8) : By the World Cup he should have had 2 full super rugby seasons and a CC at tighthead. If he isnt in the Bok squad id also line him up for a stint in the UK as a tighthead. With Coenie back next year his workload can be managed better but the experience will count in his favour

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.05.18 15:46:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Whiteley can’t be captain, he was born in Natal, both Pienaar and Smit were born in Transvaal/Gauteng. Apparently RWC winning captains must be born there. :razz: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.05.18 16:14:31 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 11) : Captain has to be Marx.

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.05.18 16:16:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Os was 35 in 2007 and Beast will be 35 in 2019, so loosehead has to be Beast.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.05.18 16:19:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 11) : I think Kieren Reid may disagree ;-) I dont agree with Marx as captain, he must just be left to play. I really thought Etzebeth did a decent job last year. Otherwise Pollard. (I think Whiteley is a bit injury prone)

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.05.18 16:22:30 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : :lol: South African RWC winning captains. Etzebeth and Pollard were born in the Cape, so they can’t be captain. Come on Sheldon, surely you can come up with a decent captain born in Transvaal…..it is an absolute requirement….apparently. :razz: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.05.18 16:33:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : I agree Whitely is injury prone, and I have serious doubts he will make it to the RWC as captain. He will be 33 then, a loosey in their 30s is a different proposition from a prop in their 30s like Beast.

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.05.18 16:35:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 16) : Everyone thought Smit was past it as captain in 2011 and he was 33, so can’t see Whiteley not being past it in 2019.

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.05.18 16:37:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I would have Kitshoff wright an gelant start.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.05.18 18:07:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 18) : I would also make space for Am even a starting berth

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.05.18 18:07:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 11) : Simple solution. Akker for hooker and captain. He was born in Vanderbijl Park (Gauteng) and is currently playing for Natal.

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.05.18 18:15:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 20) : Done deal

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.05.18 18:38:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) : Except that Akker like Marc would probably be affected same way as Marx.

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.05.18 18:41:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 22) : It would affect his game. Whitley and Lambie would make good options for cap.

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.05.18 18:42:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 21) : And Rassie will have to resign for SA’s sake and allow Jimmy Stonehouse to coach the Boks (born in Gauteng, did not play for the Boks, although I am not sure if he may be an Afrikaans Stonehouse)

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.05.18 19:05:39 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 24) : Definitely an Afrikaans Stonehouse. He came and took a practice at the club I was playing at in Secunda. Brilliant coach.

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.05.18 07:13:08 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 25) : Then the Boks are stuffed :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.05.18 07:27:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 15) : Are you sure Pollard’s birth certificate wasnt changed when he signed on for the team from the north? :cool:

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.05.18 08:19:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 25) : We have one other English speaking coach who never represented the Boks – John Mitchell.

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.05.18 08:30:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 28) : Lol good point

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.05.18 09:18:25 by StevieS Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 27) : Ahhh so you are one of those conspiracy theorists. ????

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.05.18 13:10:36 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 25) : Very Afrikaans, but if we dont tell anyone then our bok mojo coaching requirements may just suffice on the name alone.

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.05.18 13:13:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 31) : South African accents will all sound very strange to the time lords – so they may not even notice.

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.05.18 13:50:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 27) : My conjecture on the subject is that he was adopted by an Afrikaans family.

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.05.18 15:15:48 by coolfusion Reply

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