Richard Ferguson

Bissie, Frans miss first test


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 5 Jun 2018 at 09:28
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Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus has announced that both Bismarck du Plessis and Frans Steyn, who were involved in the Top 14 final this past weekend, will not be considered for the first test this weekend.

That does leave the cupboard rather bare when it comes to filling the hooker jersey. Bongi Mbonambi, who rode bench while Malcolm Marx played, stayed in South Africa and should be the next in line player. Problem is, Bongi hasn’t seen much action so far this year, and his form is questionable. He may be a great scrummager and loose player, but his line out work isn’t.

Chiliboy Ralepelle started the farcical match against Wales in Washington, but wasn’t a standout player on the day. His replacement, Akker van der Merwe, really played well and added some much needed intensity off the bench, but won only his first cap last week. Would it be wise to throw him to the wolves?

The midfield is a slightly easier puzzle to put together, with Steyn missing out it is almost certain that Damian de Allende would start in the 12 jersey with Lukhanyo Am outside him in the 13 channel. It is then a shootout for the bench spot between Andre Esterhuizen and Jesse Kriel, with both players coming back from a long trip, it is unlikely that either of them will start.

Meanwhile, Rassie has come out and said that 2 of the debutants from the Wales match really impressed him. Sharks duo Andre Esterhuizen and Makazole Mapimpi was specifically mentioned, with Mapimpi being referred to as not being able to catch a cold 6 months ago, to taking every single high ball that went his way.



44 Comments

  • I thought that was interesting that he singled them out. Maybe he’s paving the way for one of them to be on the bench? I think the bench will make or break us. The great All Black team between 2011 and 2015 was so good simply because their bench players were world class.

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.06.18 09:39:03 by StevieS Reply
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  • I think both AE and Akker really deserves more time on the field, they have both been in great form and that needs to be rewarded.

    Also very glad that Am seems to be the 1st pick at 13 as he’s been consistently good the last couple of years. Regarding hooker, I’ve never really rated Bongi, I’d have Chiliboy or Akker over him any day of the week and I hope the latter two will be in the match 23.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.06.18 09:59:46 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 2) : We need to be able to bank our first phase ball, so accuracy in lineouts and winning our own scrums is a must.

    I’m glad to see Rassie said we mustn’t expect the way we played on Saturday to be the way the Boks will playing moving forward.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.06.18 10:13:23 by StevieS Reply
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  • If Am is goong to be 13 then surely play Esterhuizen at 12?

    But guessing that’s not enough experience. And AE has travelled plenty in the last few weeks I suppose.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.06.18 10:15:42 by McLovin Reply

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  • Of the available hookers I’d take Akker. And tell him he can’t leave the field. :twisted:

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.06.18 10:17:25 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 5) : :lol:

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.06.18 10:23:42 by StevieS Reply
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  • Both Bissie and Frans would have really aided the cause, tough to include them in test 2 now unless they play off the bench. Tough to include players that can only play 1 position on the bench, need more versatile players

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.06.18 10:33:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Safest option would be to start Chilly.

    It may be unwarranted, but I have a bit of a worry about Akker’s throwing under pressure. Perhaps better to slowly blood him into test rugby.

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.06.18 10:34:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 8) : Also Akkers travel has been worse than Chilli

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.06.18 10:49:35 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Jesse Kriel is the incumbent so he should be in the picture and he is playing a hell of a lot better than he did last year.

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.06.18 12:26:21 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 10) : If only he had the cerebral skills of a Thomas du Toit

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.06.18 12:33:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 10) : Do you put that down to the Mitchell influence?

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.06.18 12:43:23 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 11) : :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.06.18 13:04:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 12) :He is a totally different player this year, so yes I think Mitchell has a lot to do with it. The Bulls have gone off the boil a bit but in the times when they got it right this year they looked like a really good, confident side.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.06.18 13:08:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • “……… with Mapimpi being referred to as not being able to catch a cold 6 months ago” He couldnt catch a cold 2 weeks ago. Lets hope its a permanent transformation.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.06.18 13:11:24 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Have any of you Durban locals seen the England rugby team around?

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.06.18 13:12:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Hope Mapimpi doesn’t have to miss a future game because he caught a cold.

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.06.18 13:27:52 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 16) : Most Durban locals don’t get to frequent the places the English are enjoying. My best chance is when they are training.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.06.18 13:33:51 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 18) : Where would they be based – Umhlanga or maybe further north? Where would they practice – KP?

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.06.18 13:47:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 19) : They would stay in Umhlanga. They normally use one of the schools to train at such as Northwood or even Crawford etc

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.06.18 14:19:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 19) : They staying at the Beverly hills in Umhlanga and training at KP if they win they may be out in umhlanga sometime but from what is being said about Eddie Jones they most likely train every night

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.06.18 14:36:35 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 19) :

    All their press briefings are held at the Kashmir Restaurant, so I assume they staying in that Hotel then.

    All training for all three weeks done at Kings Park.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.06.18 15:05:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 20) : @Byron Wright (Comment 21) : @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : Thanks. I dont know the Kashmir restaurant but sounds like the type of place I would like to visit.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.06.18 16:00:46 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : wow are they really going to use durbs as a base, for all three games in jozi, bloem and cape town ?

    and then fly too those destinations a day or two ahead of the game ?

    Any idea when they will be in cape town ?

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.06.18 16:35:49 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : does that mean that the sharks squad is off for the next 3 weeks? ;-)

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.06.18 08:35:15 by HeinF Reply

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  • I am going to have a crack at guessing the bok side:

    1) Beast
    2) Chilly(I know the media are saying bongi but that’s a big risk with his lack of gametime)
    3) Trevor
    4)Snyman
    5) Mostert
    6)Siya
    7)JldP
    8)Duane
    9)Faf
    10) Pollard
    11)Dyanthi
    12)De Allende
    13) Am
    14) nkosi
    15) Willie
    16) Akker
    17) Kitschoff
    18) Thomas( I know wilco seem the more obvious but Thomas brings more impact off the bench)
    19) PsDT
    20) Van Zyl
    21)Kriel
    22) Jantjies

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.06.18 09:19:44 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 26) : Your replacement loose forward? Bok teams have 23 in total.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.06.18 10:11:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I am actually glad Akker and AE get an extra game and hopefully first preference.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.06.18 10:27:47 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 27) : I always get confused with the 23/22 thing at international level. I would think Kwagga would offer something different and be a good impact player.

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.06.18 10:35:45 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 28) : The break will be good for AE after all the travel but I hope he gets a start in the third test if we are 2-0 up. To me he offers much more than DDA

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.06.18 10:38:17 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 26) : In the real world there would be no way that Bongi could start for the Boks – he has played for a few minutes this entire season and its not as if he is a standout hooker at the best of times.I dont think they have a choice but to go with Chilli and Akker.

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.06.18 11:31:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @HeinF (Comment 25)

    I thought the Sharks have been off for the last three years?

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.06.18 12:00:49 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 24) :

    Yeah, they staying in Durban all the way through. Once I get the info ahead of the CT game, I will tell you where they are..

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.06.18 12:02:46 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 32) : Has Plum only been gone 3 years – feels like more than that.

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.06.18 12:19:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • More than the players selected its the way the Boks play that will interest me the most. Players come and go through injury etc but the pattern must be consistent. We need to see there is a clear plan to yield results even if execution isnt 100% in the first game. The set pieces need to work, failure in that area means the rest falls apart. If we just going to kick,chase and defend then i think many supporters will turn away

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.06.18 12:48:29 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 34) :

    Valid point..

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.06.18 14:04:35 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I understand his reasons with fairness to the team, but Rassie leaving out Bismarck seems like a bit of a gamble. Why not take advantage of a guy with oodles of experience and the skill set of a fetcher in Beserker mode? England are polished and motivated. My thinking is we’ll be taught a lesson but all teams can fall apart on tour. Maybe Eddie will have good memories of Durban which may someday bear fruit.

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.06.18 14:57:52 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 37) : With Bissie and frans arriving late it is tricky to include them, but i think he should on the bench at least. As will be tough to change guys after 1 game even if its a loss as not exactly fair on the players. So id like to see both on the bench but think its unlikely

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.06.18 15:00:00 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I think the Boks really need to focus on their bench as much as possible. To be able to select a bench of: Kitshoff, Bismarck, DuToit, PSDT,Carr, Papier, Steyn,Gelant i think the Boks could really have some impact

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.06.18 15:53:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Looks like they wont be playing at all. :cry:

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.06.18 16:12:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 40) : Yup big blow as Boks look a lot softer now

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.06.18 16:14:30 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 40) : Both injured in their last French match. Bad news for the Boks, but the French owners are probably happy they will get some rest. :shock:

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.06.18 19:11:49 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 33) : Thanks, that would be greatly appreciated ?

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.06.18 23:21:22 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 42) : The whole thing seems a bit fishy as both players played the full 80min and no mention of any injury till they meant to arrive at Bok camp.

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.06.18 08:01:53 by SheldonK Reply

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